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Of course they gave the Female POC the dumbfuck weapon nobody ever thought was good.
Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off
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I already knew about these characters and posted a bit about them beforehand, but I honestly didn't bother with asking about Trennis's design. For a character they made in honor of Karen Traviss, she has even less in common with her than I thought. Meanwhile Matt "Porgcuck" Martin gets his own OC in Disney Wars who not only looks like him but acts like him but with a forced "cool factor". Trennis is just a fangirl who gushes over everyone and her final fate is becoming friends with Yoda then becoming disillusioned with the Order and leaving it and Yoda behind according to Disney info. So we already know what a disappointment her life is going to be. And they can't even be bothered to give Traviss's character an original design, just copying one of the boring ass sisters with cowpie hair from the final Filoni Wars episodes. And they don't even bother to give her some sort of Mandalorian heritage as an ode to Traviss. Wouldn't surprise me if the writers for this shit don't even know who she's named after.
She does have tattoos but they're incredibly small and only on the sides of her eyes.
I've talked about her before and how she's the protagonist for the junior novel alongside the ugly assassin she-droid from TFA that orange Yoda owns.
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I can't believe I glossed over the Matt Martin self insert, before hand it wasn't uncommon for Star wars writers or artist to have self inserts or characters based on their likeness in all fairness. I think Sifo Diyas design was based on Warren Fu.
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Difference is Matt Porgcuck never gave a shit about the brand and doesn't really contribute anything except posting shill tweets and "proof reading" for inconsistencies (which he clearly doesn't do or doesn't care enough to do it right). Warren Fu was an art director and visuals expert who had a prominent role at ILM during the prequels and he's an amazing artist to boot.
Hidalgo got a self-insert back in the day because he did a good job with the guides back then and the people making media actually listened to him unlike Disney, and he didn't bark like a bitch at everyone.
Meanwhile Matt Porgcuck is and always will be a useless bitch. Hell his OC is even named Mart Mattin. Even Hidalgo's OC was more subtle than that, being called Janu Godalhi.
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*raises hand*
Excuse me. But what are any of these characters' flaws?
Avar - none
Loden - none
Keeve - "first she must learn to trust in herself as much as she trusts the Force." THAT'S NOT A FLAW
Stellan - none
Vern (where's Ernest?) - "She struggles to fit in" STILL NOT A FLAW
There's no excuse because I know Harry Potter had flaws in all of their characters!
Fuck this, I'm going to show you how to make interesting characters (and I'm a hack).
Note also I'm not going down the ST: Picard route of making them all dark and stupid, either.
Everyone believes Avar is the brightest, most noble example of Jedi-hood. The problem is that it's all based upon a lie. Several of her greatest "victories" were by luck or accident, which has given Avar a deep sense of imposter syndrome. She relentlessly tries to put others first, even to the detriment of her health in an effort to be the lady her legend says she is. The order believes she is the best of the best - Avar is afraid they'll learn she isn't.
Loden is a Twi’lek Jedi Master, and is considered to be one of the best teachers in the Jedi Order - and the most frustrating. His mannerism is very dry, often causing frustration with his students as they try and determine what is a joke, and what is wisdom. He's also very driven, and a bit of a workaholic, looking for the learning experience in every moment. This has driven many away from the old Master and caused him to become a little more eccentric every year.
Keeve is a young firebrand Jedi, with great natural talent... and an affinity for the dark side her instructors find concerning. Impulsive to the point of near suicidal recklessness, she has been sent to study under Loden and Avar in the hopes she doesn't fall to the dark side - nor get herself killed.
Stellan is a Jedi Master who came up through the Order with Avar Kriss. However while her exploits have brought her glory, his has brought him shame as he has utilized underworld contacts in the past to obtain... "unorthodox" solutions. He often conflicts with other Jedi as they consider his efforts unsavory, while he complains about them being puritanical. Behind his back they debate whether he's bringing criminals to the light, or if they're dragging him into the darkness.
Vern is a newly-minted Jedi Knight who was Padawan to Stellan Gios. At sixteen she is one of the youngest Knights in a generation - so young others have questioned the circumstances of her knighthood, including herself. Stellan remains firm though that she earned it during their last mission. A mission that has made Vern question what it means to be a Jedi Knight, and if she really wants to be one.
Excuse me. But what are any of these characters' flaws?
Avar - none
Loden - none
Keeve - "first she must learn to trust in herself as much as she trusts the Force." THAT'S NOT A FLAW
Stellan - none
Vern (where's Ernest?) - "She struggles to fit in" STILL NOT A FLAW
There's no excuse because I know Harry Potter had flaws in all of their characters!
Fuck this, I'm going to show you how to make interesting characters (and I'm a hack).
Note also I'm not going down the ST: Picard route of making them all dark and stupid, either.
Everyone believes Avar is the brightest, most noble example of Jedi-hood. The problem is that it's all based upon a lie. Several of her greatest "victories" were by luck or accident, which has given Avar a deep sense of imposter syndrome. She relentlessly tries to put others first, even to the detriment of her health in an effort to be the lady her legend says she is. The order believes she is the best of the best - Avar is afraid they'll learn she isn't.
Loden is a Twi’lek Jedi Master, and is considered to be one of the best teachers in the Jedi Order - and the most frustrating. His mannerism is very dry, often causing frustration with his students as they try and determine what is a joke, and what is wisdom. He's also very driven, and a bit of a workaholic, looking for the learning experience in every moment. This has driven many away from the old Master and caused him to become a little more eccentric every year.
Keeve is a young firebrand Jedi, with great natural talent... and an affinity for the dark side her instructors find concerning. Impulsive to the point of near suicidal recklessness, she has been sent to study under Loden and Avar in the hopes she doesn't fall to the dark side - nor get herself killed.
Stellan is a Jedi Master who came up through the Order with Avar Kriss. However while her exploits have brought her glory, his has brought him shame as he has utilized underworld contacts in the past to obtain... "unorthodox" solutions. He often conflicts with other Jedi as they consider his efforts unsavory, while he complains about them being puritanical. Behind his back they debate whether he's bringing criminals to the light, or if they're dragging him into the darkness.
Vern is a newly-minted Jedi Knight who was Padawan to Stellan Gios. At sixteen she is one of the youngest Knights in a generation - so young others have questioned the circumstances of her knighthood, including herself. Stellan remains firm though that she earned it during their last mission. A mission that has made Vern question what it means to be a Jedi Knight, and if she really wants to be one.
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Fuck it, Kiwifarms makes a better storygroup than NuLucasfilm. They could surprise us and make these characthers more dynamic and flawed than the bios, but you know that's a really longshot.
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If they do that I will buy you a drink!
(and for a bending unit, that's a really big deal)
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I'm not excited about it at all, these designs are bland and pathetic with the modern day facial expressions. The Jedi are really the least interesting aspect of Star Wars to me, I prefer the pilots and soldiers. How many of these characters will be BLTBBQ?
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My personal favorite factions were rogues and bounty hunters, so you can imagine why Aphra manages to crumple my jonathans more than expected, what with her being a rogue herself who also embodies everything wrong with Disney. As for BLT characters, I mentioned this before but only thing that's known is that Daniel Jose Older was really pissed off on Twitter because the French publishers changed the nonbinary character from his awful book into being a regular dude (says a lot when even one of the most progressive countries on Earth thinks you're overdoing it) so he swore that his next project would have as many nonbinary characters as possible in revenge against the French and cis-het oppressors.
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JektheDumbass
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Bah. No yellow lightsabers. What can I say, Jedi Sentinel was my favorite KOTOR class and I was hoping they were coming back in canon. Nope, just a SOOPER SPESHUL thing for Rey to have.
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vern
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Wait... are you serious? Oh please send me to what you were talking about because that sounds like juicy juicy gossip.
Well now we know what your avatar is going to be.
(sorry)
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It's no coincidence the aliens they chose are near-human, they needed human faces for the smug obnoxious facial expressions while keeping the characters very bland.
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I like Vern because if you rearrange her last name you get very close to RAHOWA .
vern
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I was considering getting a real avatar when null fixes it but now I'm just keeping it as is
This wouldn't have happened if I didn't have a retarded moment and misspelled Verne after listening to Twenty Thousand Leagues
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I talked about it before on page 1457 when you were absent from the thread.
This happened back before March 10. I and several others also posted a lot of info on High Republic, Galaxy's Edge and other important details following that post I linked which I suggest you check out.
Get a Captain Nemo avatar.
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I think this sums up the current dichotomy of SW. Older fans that appreciate the ST/OT storytelling and world-building appreciate the important of canon that helps keeps things tidy and prevents an over-gratuitous use of deus ex machinas and MacGuffins to help the heores resolve issues without having to think for themselves or look for creative solutions within the universe's constraints.
Those that sperg about how awesome the Disney Trilogy is (or any Disney content for that matter) care more about action, flash, and explosions and tend see canon more as a hindrance and less of something that keeps a story from becoming too disjointed or convoluted.
With no rules, anything goes in resolving conflicts, crises, or any other issue that needs a solution. To put it simply, that's not good storytelling; it's making shit up on the fly. Canon can help rein that in and it doesn't have to be stifling. Besides, some of the better writers know how to bend canon without egregiously breaking it.
NGL, It looks like it was attached/drawn backwards.
Sponsored by GEICO
? IS GEICO trying to become part of SW canon? I can hear the voice-over now: "Moff Ghekko saved 15% on insurance for his fleet of destroyers when he switched to GEICO. Even the Emperor was shocked by the savings."It's nice to see I'm not the only one who thought this character was a retread of Ahsoka's tag-along in the new episodes of TCW. Disney really does prefer to reuse the overused in lieu of anything truly new and creative, huh?
Even if she has small ones near her eyes, it used to be canon (is it still?) that Mirialans added tattoos to reflect various milestones in their lives. Consequently, I'd expect a newly-knighted Mirialan to have a few more noticable tattoos than this. Even Barriss Offee as a padawn had more and we don't even know what hers represented.
Disney SW characters don't have flaws. They can do anything. Your character bios were much better and show how good, respected characters can still have flaws or inner conflict that shape them without necessarily making them bad characters.
In the OT, for example, Luke's use of the Force in ESB is very basic, rudimentary, and unrefined as the result of his inexperience, lack of formal training, and self-doubts. It proves to be a near-fatal flaw when Vader toys with him in their duel before taking his hand. However, it was a turning point and Luke worked hard to learn what he could and not let his flaws get the best of him again if he could help it. In RotJ, both Vader and Palpatine try to take advantage of Luke's fears, feelings, and flaws, but Luke remains steadfast -- showing self-improvement and growth in the time between films.
Conversely, Rey has no flaws at all in the ST. Further, she can do anything with the Force following her brief mind meld with Kylo. Even her attempt at a Jedi mind trick succeeds with only a minimal failure on the first attempt. She has no flaws whatsoever and doesn't grow in any significant, meaningful way. Worse, there is nothing for her to truly overcome over the course of the new trilogy as she pretty much acts on her own with minimal effort or help from others.
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Its possible considering Coke, Dasani and Porsche are a thing now. A shame we'll never have best Gecko in Star Wars...Sponsored by GEICO
This is Moff Gex calling dollface!
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They look like 10-level WoW characters in blue quest reward gear. Nothing about this looks even remotely Star Wars, not ever the lightsabers.
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Yeah, you know, even her struggling with the Dark Side would be a better theme. Like that scene where she mind controls the stormtrooper? Could have been instead her breaking her restraints and accidentally killing him in anger. Make Luke point out that she has a lot of ego, show how she has to train and mediate on herself to do things the jedi way and not like a reckless impulsive force user. Show that she struggles with the easy way.
I want to expand on that, but I'm out of motivation to write it out.