Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[Ponderous Pillock]

Also, a new Boris Johnson video. He still has a fever after 7 days and looks like crap to honest. Oh dear...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8mqzZ7mhwM

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Got to remember, during his self isolation he's not actually stopped leading the cabinet and the country. Most of us, when we get a nasty "flu like" symptoms like this mostly crawl into bed out the bloody way and drink as much as we can to stave off the dehydration symptoms (which actually cause the majority of unpleasent symptoms). Instead he's been kept informed, and kept the cabinet moving on its respective areas during this crisis.

Kudos to him.

 

[Gustav Schuchardt]

lol I love that you consider a officer of your military trying to actually protect his sailors from dying to no good purpose by going to senior military officials who had to consider whether it could impact their future salary at Lockheed Martin rather than jerking himself off through his immediate superiors as a suspicious politically motivated move

I'm sure things are handled much better in the Iranian Revolutionary Guards.

Kudos to him.

Yeah, Boris is an OK dude.

 

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I'm sure things are handled much better in the Iranian Revolutionary Guards.

Oh, so you, at least, admit that firing an officer for protecting his men is politically motivated and immoral?

Got to remember, during his self isolation he's not actually stopped leading the cabinet and the country. Most of us, when we get a nasty "flu like" symptoms like this mostly crawl into bed out the bloody way and drink as much as we can to stave off the dehydration symptoms (which actually cause the majority of unpleasent symptoms). Instead he's been kept informed, and kept the cabinet moving on its respective areas during this crisis.

Kudos to him.

Yes, without Boris, who would tell UK police to chase British people all over the moors with drones because they're exercising outside while keeping a safe distance from others?

 

[DidYouJustSayThat]

Oh, so you, at least, admit that firing an officer for protecting his men is politically motivated and immoral?

Yes, without Boris, who would tell UK police to chase British people all over the moors with drones because they're exercising outside while keeping a safe distance from others?

Firing that captain was necessary, since he broke the chain of command - they should really ask for a firing squad at his court martial for his actions, since it was done during the national emergency, essentially a state of war.

 

[Gustav Schuchardt]

Oh, so you, at least, admit that firing an officer for protecting his men is politically motivated and immoral?

I think it's complicated.

Yes, without Boris, who would tell UK police to chase British people all over the moors with drones because they're exercising outside while keeping a safe distance from others?

That's nothing to do with Boris.

 

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That's nothing to do with Boris.

Who, then? The Queen?

I think it's complicated.

Do the crew who applauded him think it's complicated?

 

[Shaka Brah]

Who, then? The Queen?

It's local councils and mayors who give those orders.

 

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It's local councils and mayors who give those orders.

Lol at least pretend that chief constables are at fault, and that Boris could not possibly override their authority to stop harassing British people. That would be slightly more believable.

 

[Ponderous Pillock]

It's local councils and mayors who give those orders.

They had to clarify the advice, to try and encourage people to exercise closer to home. Derbyshire Plod went daft and got hammered by the public to the point they've shut up on their backpatting exercises as it turned out the people they were harassing were locals to Curbar's Edge. Nice big, own goal.

Most other forces are trying to keep an eye on tourist hotspots, with North Wales Plod deploying resources along the North Wales Expressway to turn back people from Liverpool and Manchester who kept trying to sneak in. Less controversy around that.

 

[afternoon_tea]

Have they cut hours? I asked one of the kids at the grocery store and they said they went from doing 8 hours a day to 7 but they bumped pay up a little to make up for it.

Not at my store yet. We had a few people go on LOA, a few people quit, and in the meantime the rest of us have been on for however long we want to be, including OT. We also got an extra $2 as hazard pay.

They also added 2am shifts, so people come in to work while the store is closed (I chose to take these shifts, because it means I am around less people)

I think after next week they'll be reducing hours though.

 

[Otterly]

Are any of you med experts cynical about this "curve?" By that I mean, what is going to happen after THE curve has flattened and a small minority of a large population has succumbed?

Then what? Is there going to be a cycle of smaller curves, and shutdowns (like hot-cold) until this virus gets bored and mutates into something more benign, or can't find any suceptible people in a crowd of pre-exposed ones?

Because it seems like this curve flattening is merely putting off the inevitable.

In a nutshell, yes. Everyone (or 80%+) has to either get this or get a vaccine. Remove the lockdown and it springs back up. The lockdown doesn’t stop it - it just gives you time to get resources in place. But pushing the peak out means it’s going to hit next winter.
Right now, Sweden’s method seems like the most sustainable. It’s going to take a big toll on nursing homes and the big cities but I suspect Sweden may come out of this Ok.they seem to be exposing the younger and healthier and hoping that the peak hits in early summer. Tegnell is clearly a massive autist (and I don’t mean that in a bad way) but sweden does listen to experts over politics more than many countries.

Holy shit. Are there gonna be 200K deaths in NYC alone?

Left to rip through and no medical care it could hit that but I doubt it’ll be that high. It’s what, 8 million in NY? Say 75% infected, 0.5% dead, you could easily see 30k deaths.

Most of us, when we get a nasty "flu like" symptoms like this mostly crawl into bed out the bloody way and drink as much as we can to stave off the dehydration symptoms (which actually cause the majority of unpleasent symptoms). Instead he's been kept informed, and kept the cabinet moving on its respective areas during this crisis.

Kudos to him.

He looked very pale and sweaty in that clip. I hope he’s OK. Let’s hope he doesn’t meet the same fate as his hero Pericles...

 

[Exbein]

quick flipland update
Dr. Cenover Nicandro Bautista was one of the doctors who were on the Augusta aircraft that exploded in the NAIA. They were supposed to be on a medical evacuation and medical supply mission

 

[EmuWarsVeteran]

Being reminded or MC02 thanks to this thread was fun. One of the beet examples of hubris getting curbstomped by a single motherfucking Chad. So I'll summarize for those that don't know about this utter bit of fun.

They made a wargame about BLUFOR being the US navy as pentagon saw it should become in the near future, like all radars, massive ships, ridiculous sci fi shit. And OPFOR being Iraq. Then they hired a retired officer with a knack for being a sneaky cunt to play OPFOR. Thing is, what they told everyone is they wanted to test this concepts. What White Cell (the game masters basically) actually wanted is propaganda to corroborate that this concepts were indeed the best ever and nothing could stop them. The fact that now most of our doctrine is against using big, easily identifiable profiles and for mixing radars with non-radar operatives should tell you how stupid they were being.

So, first round they set a fuckton of rules to ensure BLUFOR wins. OPFOR calls them out on it and they promise next time will be free as even BLUFOR was seeing through their curtain. Second round BLUFOR once again uses easily recognizable US tactics starting with giving the enemy a "surrender or get nuked" paper. Abd REDFOR uses no radars so they can't even see him, a bunch of small boats and merchant boats to scout, and prepares. By the time BLUFOR drops by they have been thoroughly identified and are met with a ridiculous amount of torpedoes and kamikaze boats acompanied by a fleet of small boats. And they eat shit. Like literally 19 sunk ships, including most of the strike group, total unilateral catastrophic failure.

So white cell starts adding rules to try and turn that around. As the days go by they started banning the use of cammo, forcing the activation of radars, and they have to even ban OPFOR from shooting at the personnel carriers. Claiming it was out of character to do so. Yeah because Iraq would NEVER shoot at US personnel carriers, EVER. Just kek. So of course by the end the retired general's become an advisor and the entire thing's a sham. Said general and multiple of the OPFOR members raise reasonable concerns and shit gets leaked. The leader of BLUFOR (who I seem to remember was called Bell) even puts it a good word for OPFOR claiming they kicked his ass. Meanwhile congress is trying to claim the exercise has proven US dominance and there's no way their tactics can ever fail! Supreme world of kek! So sure enough the backlash wound up forcing them to reconsider.

Seriously who just assumes the enemy will just not hide and not shoot their personnel carriers did the USA congress not understand the concept or guerrilla warfare?!

I knew I should have brushed up on my Spanish.

First line is asymptomatic. Second is low symptoms. Third is severe symptoms (non-ICU hospitalization). And 4th is very severe symptoms (ICU/ventilators).

As for the colors. Yellow is asymptomatic. Orange is symptomatic. Purple is hospitalization. Pink is ventilators. Green is Immunized. Grey is the death rates of each line (black is deaths) and "contagioso" means "contagious".

so basically it's another terminal patient getting an assist from corona

It's not an assist it's a kill steal. And man, Corona's teammates must hate her at this point. All she does is steal kills left and right.

 

[Gustav Schuchardt]

Let’s hope he doesn’t meet the same fate as his hero Pericles...

Spooky that, isn't it?

https://web.archive.org/web/2020032...i/Pericles#Last_military_operations_and_death

 

[Just Some Other Guy]

Gas is $1.99 from what I saw. Holy shit. If you could, fill up your car or gas tank.

Paid $1.24/gal from Sam's Club. Haven't seen these prices in over 20+ years.

 

[Shaka Brah]

Paid $1.24/gal from Sam's Club. Haven't seen these prices in over 20+ years.

The oil price war is tamping down on fracking and worthless "green" projects at the same time. It's really a great thing to see. Plus it puts money in peoples' pockets at a bad time.

 

[Ponderous Pillock]

Paid $1.24/gal from Sam's Club. Haven't seen these prices in over 20+ years.

Same in Bongland, it's down to £1/L or £3 a US Gallon. Not been that low since the 90s. When you consider of that £1, 58p of that is Fuel Duty....

 

[Otterly]

I’m not sure why the UK is having problems with testing. There are hundreds of small biotechs, probably a dozen or two who could make a decent antibody self test and have it ready for validation in a week. Every lab in the country has PCR machines of all types. Commandeer them, cluster them locally.
There are multiple large central labs in the Uk. All over the country -they serve the clinical research industry and are capable of running hundreds of thousands of tests a day EACH. Fera, cellomatics, PPD, covance, Q2, Hammersmith, start using them. They can do bulk ELISA s and bulk PCR. Don’t have an ELISA yet? What the fuck are you playing at? Two dozen small providers in the uk could have this sorted for you. Not enough reagents? Combine the wells if needed and split out any positives to identify the individual samples that are positive.
The idea that they’d need to do tests in individual university labs is daft. Cluster resources, and use the big labs. Use smaller providers for innovation if needed.
This kind of logistical stumbling bothers me. There’s no need for it. The brains and the kit is there, and this says to me that government needs a few more science bods in it or they would have been on weeks back. It’s obvious stuff.

 

[Shaka Brah]

I’m not sure why the UK is having problems with testing. There are hundreds of small biotechs, probably a dozen or two who could make a decent antibody self test and have it ready for validation in a week. Every lab in the country has PCR machines of all types. Commandeer them, cluster them locally.
There are multiple large central labs in the Uk. All over the country -they serve the clinical research industry and are capable of running hundreds of thousands of tests a day EACH. Fera, cellomatics, PPD, covance, Q2, Hammersmith, start using them. They can do bulk ELISA s and bulk PCR. Don’t have an ELISA yet? What the fuck are you playing at? Two dozen small providers in the uk could have this sorted for you. Not enough reagents? Combine the wells if needed and split out any positives to identify the individual samples that are positive.
The idea that they’d need to do tests in individual university labs is daft. Cluster resources, and use the big labs. Use smaller providers for innovation if needed.
This kind of logistical stumbling bothers me. There’s no need for it. The brains and the kit is there, and this says to me that government needs a few more science bods in it or they would have been on weeks back. It’s obvious stuff.

The NHS is run and staffed by the people too dumb to open a private practice, or their cut-rate Indian replacements. They're not particularly capable of coordinating normal procedures and patient information, let alone deal with an epidemic.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

Amazing. Even as the coronavirus crisis continues to affect Germany, hospitals are being closed.

https://archive.li/l5TWt#selection-1414.0-1414.3

【魚拓】Hospital closures continue in Germany despite COVID-19 pandemic - World Socialist Web Site

https://www.wsws.org:443/en/articles/2020/04/02/germ-a02.html - 2020年4月4日 15:53 - ウェブ魚拓

megalodon.jp

Temporary hospitals are being set up.. while permanent hospitals serving small communities are being closed.

You would think that the people behind the 'elite' that rules over Germany would have some shame about this. But why should they? They need to spend government money on important things, like building nuclear-armed submarines for their masters, not hospitals serving rural areas. What better time to shut down hospitals than a time that they can bar protests?

Something just occurred to me, Silicon Valley types used to talk about 'the event' in which they talked about what they'd do in a doomsday scenario. Could it be they all believe this is it?