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I should mention. This chart puts overall lethality at 4%

Imagine 4% of your country's population dying just like that, just because some fucking chink researcher ate a bat he had been doing experiments on.

And that is why vaccines and prevention are so vital. Imagine 60% of the population was inmune. Even before taking into account how it could stop the spread, that already lowers the dead to only 1.6%

More importantly. When you look at the dead in your country. As things get worse and the bell tolls. Remember. 4% is the BEST CASE SCENARIO. It's what happens when you manage to keep the hospitals trucking and well fed. It's how it goes without any unnecessary deaths from collapse. It may seem fucked up to see 100 a day. But most countries will get there, because even in the best case. 4% is the toll to pay simply because the bell started. Unless the lockdowns manage to stop spread enough to distribute well tested treatment and/or hopefuly a real antiviral or they manage to immunize enough of the population before the rest get infected. That's just the baseline... when I see UK and Poland kiwis freaking out as their bells grow. I can't help but laugh. You're still doing great. You're still on as good as could ever be expected parameters. Because this. THIS. Is the crude reality of pandemics. Once they start rolling... The culling can only be softened. Never stopped.
 
I get what they want to do with this but like what if you don't have a phone and/or you don't take your phone. I've only gone out a few times but I've stopped taking my phone with me because it's too annoying have to remember another thing to clean. If they track you by your phone but you don't take it, this is pointless.

I have a feeling that most people are still glued to their phones, even during The Great Contagion.
 
I get what they want to do with this but like what if you don't have a phone and/or you don't take your phone. I've only gone out a few times but I've stopped taking my phone with me because it's too annoying have to remember another thing to clean. If they track you by your phone but you don't take it, this is pointless.
The trick is to make you dependant on your phone somehow, like imagine an abusive relationship but it's with your smartphone.
I wonder if this works through airplane mode actually, if it does I guess there's a good market for mobile vpns/true airplane modes.
 
Thermite is easy to make and very effective against Chinese Tanks or Artillery

Where? Planning to go to China and take on the PLA? No, the Chinese aren't coming here. If it isn't right next door, they aren't coming. Not likely to try anything anyway - the ChiCom Flu has undoubtedly taken a toll on the Chinese military.

Relax, people. Just take things day by day. Take care of yourself and your loved ones. All anyone can do right now.
 
The trick is to make you dependant on your phone somehow, like imagine an abusive relationship but it's with your smartphone.
I wonder if this works through airplane mode actually, if it does I guess there's a good market for mobile vpns/true airplane modes.

If you've got Google Play Services installed, no amount of VPN, etc. is going to block the phone "calling home". I'm too busy to look it up now, but this channel (and the chat channel) should have most of the info on how Google tracks you:

The only real solution is to install LineageOS without GAPPS, if that's an option on your phone. Even then, your mobile provider can still track the location of your phone (including flip phones) so it's better to leave them at home.
 
Interesting move here...


.... so no other country will steal the limelight and the chinese will look fucking amazing. It is a win-win as if they die they could be lauded for the sacrifice to the party etc.

The party just need reminding how many tourists now go up everest each year. It is not what it once was as an achievement.
 
Psychiatrists the world over sigh in resignation as they will need to explain again to their Paranoid schizophrenic patients that they aren’t being tracked by their ... oh. And the government doesn’t want to ... oh. Ok then.
Wonder how many psychiatrists over the past ten years have secretly wanted to tell their patients, "You were right."
 
The only real solution is to install LineageOS without GAPPS, if that's an option on your phone. Even then, your mobile provider can still track the location of your phone (including flip phones) so it's better to leave them at home.

It's a shame that Fairphone won't support LineageOS as their main OS. There's a third party port for the Fairphone 2 but it took ages and is of unknown stability. And it'll be the same for Fairphone 3, even though the Venn diagram of "People who want a repairable phone" and "People who want LineageOS instead of Fairphone OS" is probably a circle.

And look at this


The Fairphone 3 ships with a Fairphone operating system (OS), based on Android 9 Pie and a set of Google Apps.
Our aim is to support Fairphone 3 with security and software upgrades for 5 years after the launch.

For Fairphone 2, we offered also Fairphone Open, an operating system (OS) that does not have Google services pre-installed. This will not work on the FP2. We are currently investigating the possibility of making Fairphone Open available on Fairphone 3.

It is possible to install alternative operating systems on your Fairphone 3 when they are made available by the respective operating systems. Before you can install another OS, you will have to unlock the bootloader with a code provided by us.

I think the bolded bit should say 'This will not work on the FP3'. So for FP2 they had Fairphone OS aka 'Android+GAPPs' or Fairphone Open aka 'Android without GAPPs'. On FP3 they only offer 'Android+GAPPS'. And they say they're 'investigating' offering Fairphone Open but it's been six months since release and they haven't done it. And Lineage doesn't have a port and only had one for the FP2 after it had been replaced by the FP3.

So if you don't want GAPPS with your Fairphone, you're basically screwed. I wonder if Google might be pressuring phone manufacturers to make sure all users get GAPPS because that's how Google makes money or harvests souls or whatever it is their business really is.

Psychiatrists the world over sigh in resignation as they will need to explain again to their Paranoid schizophrenic patients that they aren’t being tracked by their ... oh. And the government doesn’t want to ... oh. Ok then.

When you look at this and St Terry A Davis being martyred by people yelling 'JULAY!' at him until he killed himself, the pre-modern notion that schizophrenics are some sort of savants starts to make a certain amount of sense.

Maybe Terry was one of the good savants and Greta is a nasty, authoritarian one.
 

A bus driver in Detroit, who had complained about a passenger coughing without covering her mouth and feared people were not taking the novel coronavirus pandemic seriously, has died after contracting the virus, officials said.

Jason Hargrove, an employee of the Detroit Department of Transportation, recorded a Facebook message on March 21 criticizing a woman who he said got on his bus and coughed multiple times without covering her mouth.


"We out here as public workers, doing our jobs, trying to make an honest living to take care of our families, but for you to get on the bus and stand on the bus and cough several times without covering up your mouth … that lets me know that some folks don't care. Utterly don't give a f---, excuse my language," Hargrove said in the 8-minute video.

He said that he felt violated not only for himself, but for the other few passengers who were on the bus.

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Detroit Mayor Mike Duggan said on Thursday that Hargrove had died.

He encouraged Americans to watch Hargrove's Facebook video, cautioning that it includes multiple expletives.

"I don't know how you can watch it and not tear up. He knew his life was being put in jeopardy, even though he was going to work for the citizens of Detroit every day, but somebody just didn't care," Duggan said in a press conference. "Somebody who didn't take this seriously and now he's gone."

The Amalgamated Transit Union commemorated Hargrove in a statement. The union said he had been a member since 2016 and left behind a wife.

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Glenn Tolbert, the president of the union for Detroit Department of Transportation, called on city leaders to better protect bus drivers. Tolbert told ABC Detroit affiliate WXYZ that out of the 530 drivers in the department, 100 were in quarantine and seven drivers had tested positive for the coronavirus.

Mayor Duggan said that when he heard bus drivers went on strike on March 17 because they felt unsafe, he implemented new measures, including only allowing people to get on from the back doors and no longer collecting bus fares. The strike lasted just one day.

In Hargrove's message, he urged people to keep safe and take the pandemic seriously.

More than 6,000 people in the U.S. have died after contracting the coronavirus, according to data from Johns Hopkins University. More than 245,000 people are infected in the U.S. and more than a million across the globe.

"Y'all be safe. If you ain't got to go out, don't go out. If you go, cover up your face, put some gloves on your hands. Please," Hargrove said in the video.


Some woman was on a Detroit bus, coughing erratically, and then killed a bus driver for doing his job. FFS, people are so careless.
Archive of ABC News article: https://archive.vn/sngb3

678 infections, 58 recovered, 32 dead.
List of dead with comorbidity data per case, again. We passed the 1/3 dead to recovered ratio.



Eu making Orban look good, as usual.



Ree he wants locals to buy locally made products!!!!1!!


Heavy taxes incoming on multinational corporations and banks to relocate resources to healthcare and Hungarian businesses.

University engineering groups are designing mass producible emergency breathing machines that can keep multiple people alive at once.


China delivered 400 thousand hazmat suits, 4 million masks, 100 thousand glasses, 30 thousand gloves, 6 thousand face shields. Also 400 thousand doses of an experimental chinese drug. Lets hope it ain't made of dog ears, cat cocks and asbestos with some mercury on top.


Wapo being optimistic about Corona chan ridding the world of the EU.


(((Stein))) is reeing and lying. Claims Orban is ex communist. Kiketard at least lie believably. He was a liberal/libertarian who first was mentioned for telling soviets to get out lol. Than he realised Hungarians love nationalism, with socialism coming in second and liberals/tarians/progressives having like 10% favour.
1.Archive of Hungary Today article: http://archive.li/grpKQ
2.Archive of Time article: https://archive.vn/simOg
3.Archive of WaPo article: https://archive.vn/w7sdk
4.Archive of The New Republic article: https://archive.vn/LmZ46
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Börk news: The Swedish government wants more power to fight the corona virus. https://www.thelocal.se/20200404/sw...more-powers-to-fight-the-coronavirus-pandemicA government that has been handling the corona crisis as well as other crises poorly mostly due to their own and different government agencies' incompetence (and not necessarily legal restrictions) now wants more power. Hmmm...
Archive of The Local SE article: https://archive.vn/lhLH3
So this kind of skipped by a few of us by, The Lynfi Surgery in Maesteg, Wales issued a letter which basically sums up Yeah, remember how we're supposed to be protecting you lot? Sign a DNR instead because fuck you.

So supposedly there will now be an investigation into the cruel cunts who released this. If the townsfolk don't run them out of town first.
1. Lynfi Surgery (https://archive.vn/OM05P )
2. Yeah, remember how we're supposed to be protecting you lot? Sign a DNR instead because fuck you. (https://archive.vn/C00TQ)

I was a volunteer visitor here for a few years a while back. (A lot of residents don’t get any family visitors) This is really sad. The truth is, this is going to be repeated at care home after care home.
Archive of The Guardian article: https://archive.vn/sISAx
As of this morning the state of New York has confirmed 102,936 coronavirus cases, 2,945 deaths and 8,886 recovered. New York City has the highest number of bat flu cases in the US. This map shows which NYC zip codes are most affected here. Because testing is still limited, the actual positive rate is almost certain to be much higher.

Everyone, even the idiots that voted for him, seem to be pissed off at Wilhelm de Blasio. I've gone into how the clowns running NYC completely bungled the response but people here are just fed up with him and to a lesser degree, Cuomo. The NYPD has started arresting people for not following house arrest social distancing orders but they seem to be all black people in the hood (because arresting the rich in Brooklyn Heights isn't going to bode well for future fundraisers).
https://theintercept.com/2020/04/03/nypd-social-distancing-arrests-coronavirus/ Archive

Pro Publica has interesting articles on coronavirus but the one that catches my eye is the one explaining early data shows African-Americans are getting and dying from the bat flu at very high rates. I suspect this is also the case in NYC.

Bloomberg Media has apparently become a CCP shill machine. Here are just two of their articles praising China's bat flu response and unique wet markets. This going to go over as well as Mini Mike's presidential campaign..
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/a...-what-wuhan-can-teach-new-york-about-survival Archive
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/a...-closing-china-s-wet-markets-isn-t-a-solution Archive

Personally I've had it with house arrest, business closures and food/medical supply shortages but especially the lack of testing. We are close to having the NYPD ask anyone outdoors "Ihre papiere bitte?" while convicted pedos are released and running around free. The NYPD won't respond to actual law enforcement things because they might catch the bat flu but will cart you off in a heartbeat if you stand too close to someone. If Giuliani had the police do this he would have been called Nazi and worse.
1.This map shows which NYC zip codes are most affected here(https://archive.vn/G9Ttw)
2.Early Data Shows African Americans Have Contracted and Died of Coronavirus at an Alarming Rate (https://archive.vn/LJVrx#selection-697.0-697.94)
Not seen this posted yet: if you are bored, faintly alarmed by CDC advice, have a sewing machine or patience to hand sew, and some craft cotton on hand, this is a very straightforward pattern with a video too for fabric face masks. Obviously this are not PPE standard but... if you want something to cover your face with, this is something.

I’ve made a few for family etc and put them in with food deliveries. It might well be useless but it feels like doing something, you know?

How to Sew a Surgical Face Mask for Hospitals – Free Pattern (https://archive.vn/b0c8j#selection-387.0-387.60)
Interesting move here...


.... so no other country will steal the limelight and the chinese will look fucking amazing. It is a win-win as if they die they could be lauded for the sacrifice to the party etc.

The party just need reminding how many tourists now go up everest each year. It is not what it once was as an achievement.
Archive of BBC article: https://archive.vn/Eo7R5
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1. They're the dipshits who just kept partying and willfully chose to completely ignore this, and then once shit hit the fan, the local politicians decided to play hot potato with who took the blame instead of getting off of their asses and working to fix it.

2. The rest of the country is dealing with this shit too. New York City isn't the only city in the U.S. and it's not anyone else's fault that New York City made no efforts whatsoever to prepare for this or replenish any of their stockpiles. Every single state is supposed to maintain their own stockpile of emergency supplies before trying to rely on Federal stockpiles and New York didn't do this.

3. Trying to equate this with 9/11 is just ridiculous at best.

 
Ozone generator...

Due to my work history I still have several Industrial Ozone Machines and unless you are trained to them properly you do not fuck with them. They will waste your silly little ass in 60 minutes (or less) in a enclosed area/room.

But it does the job.... It will kill Viruses... Destroy odors As well as Aunt May and Uncle Joe.... Fido the Wonder Dog and the Super Orchid that you named Tammy.

Over the years through the industry I have heard people being dumb asses and using one of these machines, leave the house and a few hours later they find their pets dead and their plants dying.


The residential ones are not powerful enough to do the job correctly. Just do not go there with the concept. I'm not.
 
The only real solution is to install LineageOS without GAPPS, if that's an option on your phone. Even then, your mobile provider can still track the location of your phone (including flip phones) so it's better to leave them at home.
You beat me to it. Part of the E911 spec is the phone can get a crude GPS position with just the built in cellular radio. Flip phone, iphone, droid, etc doesn't matter. This is all part of the baseband part of the phone. The stuff thats locked away in closed source firmwhere protected by 9000 NDAs.
When you call 911 on a cellphone the network interrogates ("pings") the phone and asks it for a location. Part of this is to pass your general location on to the dispatcher but the main reason is to route it to the correct PSAP( 911 center). Once the call is set up the 911 dispatcher also has the ability to send additional pings if their system is E911 capable.
Since this stuff is all happening inside the baseband you have no way of monitoring it or controlling it with the OS. To have a true airplane mode phone you would need to come up with something that removes power to the cellular modem.
Realistically the only way to be sure is to just leave the fucking thing home or pull the battery if you can't bare to be with out it. If the government mandates the networks start tracking everyone then they could just use the mechanisms already built in to the network and start pinging all registered handsets every few mins.
 
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1. They're the dipshits who just kept partying and willfully chose to completely ignore this, and then once shit hit the fan, the local politicians decided to play hot potato with who took the blame instead of getting off of their asses and working to fix it.

2. The rest of the country is dealing with this shit too. New York City isn't the only city in the U.S. and it's not anyone else's fault that New York City made no efforts whatsoever to prepare for this or replenish any of their stockpiles. Every single state is supposed to maintain their own stockpile of emergency supplies before trying to rely on Federal stockpiles and New York didn't do this.

3. Trying to equate this with 9/11 is just ridiculous at best.

Why should NYC get love when they belittled everyone else and did no preparation.
 
Isn't herd immunity achieved when the vulnerable population times R0 (initial reproductive rate) is less than one? Assuming R0 is 2.2, 60% infection gives 40% of the population vulnerable. 0.4*2.2=0.88.

https://web.archive.org/web/20200314150632/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_immunity#Mechanism

Then again R(t), the reproductive rate at time t, should hopefully fall because of social distancing. If you could halve it you could double the uninfected population and still have the population peak. E.g. 0.8*1.1=0.88. At that point, you'd get peak infection with 20% infection.

If you look here you can see the UK's social distancing is about as effective as you could expect it to be

https://www.gstatic.com/covid19/mobility/2020-03-29_GB_Mobility_Report_en.pdf
https://web.archive.org/web/2020040...mobility/2020-03-29_GB_Mobility_Report_en.pdf

That should mean that R(t) is going to be less than R0, or 2.2.

1 minus 1/2.2 = 55%
 
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