Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[mindlessobserver]

Law and order fears for NYC as nearly 10,000 NYPD and FDNY members call out sick amid a rise in burglaries while virus daily death toll DOUBLES in the city to 757
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...early-10-000-NYPD-FDNY-members-sick-city.html (http://archive.vn/XeOFa)

Good thing NYC was so adamant about disarming its population. Those burglars of undetermined ethnic makeup might have gotten hurt

 

[Gustav Schuchardt]

OUI! GOT A LOICENCE FOR THAT SALT? Coronavirus can only improve your sad little island.

We're all in this together, buddy. Well except for the Chinks. They are your enemy!

The UK doing "not too badly" with Kung-Flu may be down almost totally due to the fact our testing capabilities is about 10,000 a day when we could do with it being 10x that. Germany has the greater testing capacity and capability but might be working on a lot of their published cases being more mild. You can assume, as these are typically checked in patients now being counted in the UK our counted are more "severe."

Even the low volume of testing is hard to blame the government for. Given that it's borderline impossible to get hold of anything even vaguely corona related anywhere in the world even getting 10K tests a day is pretty impressive. I still think Matt Hancock is a fucking idiot, but the system he's in charge of seems to be doing a pretty good job.

Good thing NYC was so adamant about disarming its population. Those burglars of undetermined ethnic makeup might have gotten hurt

"You don't need a gun! The police will protect you!" isn't true when there isn't a crisis. As soon as there is a crisis it's even less true.

 

[Ponderous Pillock]

Even the low volume of testing is hard to blame the government for. Given that it's borderline impossible to get hold of anything even vaguely corona related anywhere in the world even getting 10K tests a day is pretty impressive. I still think Matt Hancock is a fucking idiot, but the system he's in charge of seems to be doing a pretty good job.

Hancock's growing on me precisely because he seems utterly unspun.

He stammers, stutters and pauses weirdly in prepared speeches (seems to lose his place a lot as he's not on autocue) and whatnot but jesus does he seem on top of his brief. The second a detail question is asked by a journo he seems to have the numbers to hand.

Would you feel even half as confident in the NHS if Jeremy Hunt were still in charge?

 

[Death Grip]

Jeremy C Hunt? No way. In my trust I've witnessed the level of preparation that has gone underway, everyone seems to be pulling together and the management are really making a go of having a plan.
Then again we've only got around 70 cases at the moment, so it could get a lot more chaotic if that number raises significantly.

 

[Gustav Schuchardt]

Would you feel even half as confident in the NHS if Jeremy Hunt were still in charge?

There's a Matt Hancock press conference here, I'll have a watch and see what my impression is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bkq39u5nGP4&t=15m18s

Local upload from 15m18s

 

[behavioral swamp thang]

^Spot on. It would take me a minute to figure out how to thread and operate a sewing machine but you would have to have the critical thinking of a fucking sea cucumber to not figure out how to operate a sewing needle and thread.

Have you not figured out yet that the majority of people are fucking sea cucumbers?

 

[KimCoppolaAficionado]

Good thing NYC was so adamant about disarming its population. Those burglars of undetermined ethnic makeup might have gotten hurt

This is New York we're talking about; everyone owns a goddamn baseball bat and knows how to beat someone to a pulp with it. If you're born in New Yawk, you practically come out of the womb clutching a slugger in one hand and a pack of resold cigarettes in the other.

 

[Non-Expert!]

How will the global coronavirus pandemic end? | CBC News

archived 5 Apr 2020 17:34:21 UTC

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When, and How, Does the Coronavirus Pandemic End?: QuickTake - Bloomb…

archived 5 Apr 2020 01:20:43 UTC

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This virus IS a real pain in the ass.

 

[Otterly]

Easter is going to be interesting. Long weekend, a lot of people take the week before or after as a holiday, it’s the first holiday of the year where the weather is going to be OK. Let’s see what happens to lockdown. I suspect people are going to flout it.
I’m seeing a lot of shrieking about Sweden’s relaxed approach, but in effect it’s the same as what we’ve achieved - keep the really vulnerable home and let everyone younger just get it. There’s not much difference between allowing people out and telling them to stay in and them ignoring it and going out anyway.
I suspect, that when all is said and done, the measures countries put in place won’t have much effect on the final death tolls. No one is locking down for months, and when they open up, they’ll start dying at the same rate everyone else did, or at least most of the same vulnerable will still be hit.
I suspect that population density is going to be the big differentiator in the west, and a combo of population density, state of health service and genetics is going to be what counts everywhere else.
A while back I think @RodgerDodger noted about small spikes in things like care homes and big spikes when larger things like hospital systems are hit. I think that will repeat on a larger scale - small spikes where a village gets hit, bigger ones for places like NY. But I do t think that all other factor being equal, somewhere like Denmark is going to end up with fewer dead at the end of it all than sweden.

We are still in the denial/bargaining phase of this. It’s going to run it’s course, until it’s out of fuel.

 

[Ellesse_warrior]

Video Archives April 4

Incoming Rando bitching on the youtube

I'm not a personal fan of Truth stream media but this one is worse than their unicorn rant
The comment section is spicy gold

RIP Link, Please post archives

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This is the last time I'm archiving your posts. Learn to archive or stop spamming videos. If you don't think they are worth archiving reconsider posting them .

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Taiwan's CDC seems to be nailing this, but what is the deal with Taiwan and WHO?

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Forgot to quote this one :
See. how the Corona Virus transmitted…Japanese captured it on highly Powerful Camera(Source)

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[Non-Expert!]

Easter is going to be interesting. Long weekend, a lot of people take the week before or after as a holiday, it’s the first holiday of the year where the weather is going to be OK. Let’s see what happens to lockdown. I suspect people are going to flout it.
I’m seeing a lot of shrieking about Sweden’s relaxed approach, but in effect it’s the same as what we’ve achieved - keep the really vulnerable home and let everyone younger just get it. There’s not much difference between allowing people out and telling them to stay in and them ignoring it and going out anyway.
I suspect, that when all is said and done, the measures countries put in place won’t have much effect on the final death tolls. No one is locking down for months, and when they open up, they’ll start dying at the same rate everyone else did, or at least most of the same vulnerable will still be hit.
I suspect that population density is going to be the big differentiator in the west, and a combo of population density, state of health service and genetics is going to be what counts everywhere else.
A while back I think @rodgerdoger noted about small spikes in things like care homes and big spikes when larger things like hospital systems are hit. I think that will repeat on a larger scale - small spikes where a village gets hit, bigger ones for places like NY. But I do t think that all other factor being equal, somewhere like Denmark is going to end up with fewer dead at the end of it all than sweden.

We are still in the denial/bargaining phase of this. It’s going to run it’s course, until it’s out of fuel.

I think that folks are confusing this virus with the chickenpox ... kids get a mild version, in adults it develops into shingles if they aren't exposed as kids.

So by analogy, if you are healthy, allow yourself to get sick, and then be immune to it,

And then they take this "herd immunity" thing that has come up in the news in discussions about how anti-vaxxers put newborn babies at risk for catching measles, etc.

So it stands to reason that folks think "expose myself and join the herd," except for the fact that there is little concrete evidence that you retain antibodies. And if there is something about you that this virus finds particularly titillating, you really can die of it. Even if you recently completed a triathlon.

Also a lot of elderly are surviving it.

 

[simulated goat]

Trump's chosen bugmen are attacking crews attempting to help coronachan victims.

Medics attacked en route to virus test in Jerusalem Haredi neighborho…

archived 5 Apr 2020 17:52:12 UTC

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Medics attacked en route to virus test in Jerusalem Haredi neighborhood; 1 hurt

Magen David Adom volunteer lightly hurt in incident in Mea Shearim, municipal vehicle damaged

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[Silence of the Troons]

Börk news: there has long been a backlog of reporting when it comes to the amount of corona related deaths presented by the Swedish National Health Agency (which, to their credit, they've been honest about from the beginning) every day. Today the news agency TT discovered that the official rate presented by the NHA had a pretty big backlog. http://archive.is/p3E2N

Anders Tegnell: probably the best death rate statistics in the world

401 people have died after being infected by corona in Sweden, according to the Public Health Authority.
Slightly fewer cases have been reported in the past 24 hours compared to yesterday.
State epidemiologist Anders Tegnell believes that Sweden may soon have one of the world's safest figures on deaths.

A further 28 people have been confirmed dead in Sweden, and the death toll is now 401.
On Saturday, the number of deceased in covid-19 increased by 40 cases.
6,830 people have been confirmed to be infected.
The death toll in covid-19 from the Public Health Authority has previously had a large backlog, shows a review from TT. In the future it will not be so, says state epidemiologist Anders Tegnell. He also believes that the number of corona deaths reported will be higher in Sweden than in other countries.
- It's a difficult area. Above all, there are uncertainties in the initial. But in the long run, within a few days, we probably have the world's best death statistics in this area because we can follow people at the social security number level.
The infected persons are compared with the Swedish death register.
- We coordinate all cases and see if they show up in the death register, which is not possible in all countries. Sweden and some other countries can do that. Thus, our death statistics will probably be higher and better than any other country, I would argue.
In Denmark, 161 people have been reported dead, in Norway 62, and in Finland 25 people, according to Worldometers. It is difficult to compare between countries, Anders Tegnell believes, partly because countries indicate the cause of death in different ways.
225 have been reported dead in Stockholm
According to state epidemiologist Anders Tegnell, a backlog in the figures was previously due to, among other things, the Stockholm region reported deaths in covid-19 with a certain backlog. 225 have died in Stockholm, according to yesterday's figures from the region. That a person is reported dead one day does not mean that the person died just that day.
- About a week ago, Stockholm started with a new system to check who died in covid-19 by entering the death register, which they did not do before.
- But now Stockholm is very quick to find deaths and we constantly check and send questions to the county councils. So in the last few days we have a much less backlog than we had before.

Andouilette news: for the first time there was a slight drop in hospitalizations in the Grand Est region (which currently is one of the regions of France the most affected by the corona pandemic). http://archive.is/wip/DcuYT

First (slight) drop in hospitalizations in the Grand Est

According to the latest results from the Regional Health Agency (ARS) and the prefecture of Grand Est, one of the regions most affected by the epidemic, 4,702 Covid-19 patients were hospitalized on Saturday in establishments in the region, against 4712 in the previous count on Friday, a very slight decline in 10 patients.

According to the charts for monitoring the number of hospitalizations offered by Santé Publique France, the official public health agency, this is the first drop in the Grand Est, whereas until now the number of hospitalized patients has not stopped to climb.

On the other hand, the number of deaths in the region since the start of the epidemic continues to increase: 1402, against 1311 in the previous assessment.

"To hope to maintain this trend (...), it is absolutely necessary to continue to observe respect for containment and barrier measures", insist in their press release the ARS and the prefecture.

 

[2021Murder]

This is New York we're talking about; everyone owns a goddamn baseball bat and knows how to beat someone to a pulp with it. If you're born in New Yawk, you practically come out of the womb clutching a slugger in one hand and a pack of resold cigarettes in the other.

Plus the modern technique of shooting means some dickhead with a knife will always win against someone with a gun if its under 20 feet, and honestly more like under 50 feet if you arent a consistent gun user like most assholes that just decided to get guns this year

 

[Eryngium]

BASED Chinamen DABBING on the piggy AmeriFATS

 

[737 MAX Stan Account]

So, when will NYC turn into The Division? Or at the very least get to the point where the Prez has no choice but to wall off the place from the rest of the country?

 

[simulated goat]

Easter is going to be interesting. Long weekend, a lot of people take the week before or after as a holiday, it’s the first holiday of the year where the weather is going to be OK. Let’s see what happens to lockdown. I suspect people are going to flout it.
I’m seeing a lot of shrieking about Sweden’s relaxed approach, but in effect it’s the same as what we’ve achieved - keep the really vulnerable home and let everyone younger just get it. There’s not much difference between allowing people out and telling them to stay in and them ignoring it and going out anyway.
I suspect, that when all is said and done, the measures countries put in place won’t have much effect on the final death tolls. No one is locking down for months, and when they open up, they’ll start dying at the same rate everyone else did, or at least most of the same vulnerable will still be hit.
I suspect that population density is going to be the big differentiator in the west, and a combo of population density, state of health service and genetics is going to be what counts everywhere else.
A while back I think @RodgerDodger noted about small spikes in things like care homes and big spikes when larger things like hospital systems are hit. I think that will repeat on a larger scale - small spikes where a village gets hit, bigger ones for places like NY. But I do t think that all other factor being equal, somewhere like Denmark is going to end up with fewer dead at the end of it all than sweden.

We are still in the denial/bargaining phase of this. It’s going to run it’s course, until it’s out of fuel.

For awhile now I've been looking at this happening as a model for historical human action in the face of plague, something history can't record as readily as royal proclamations and accountant's ledgers. It gives me me insight to know perhaps people in rural england circa 1348 were likely all 'nah, it's really far off, only affects chinks dagos french and I'm specially blessed by god, and it's just in London anyways so fuck them. Kill the witches.'

 

[mindlessobserver]

BASED Chinamen DABBING on the piggy AmeriFATS

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You would think they would take this as an opportunity for some humility and introspection. Instead....this. this is the country that is supposed to replace America as the global hegemony remember. Anyone who still thinks that is a good idea is either a moron or already on the take.

 

[and 3 others]

This is New York we're talking about; everyone owns a goddamn baseball bat and knows how to beat someone to a pulp with it. If you're born in New Yawk, you practically come out of the womb clutching a slugger in one hand and a pack of resold cigarettes in the other.

Regardless of how many baseball bats she owns, a 100lb woman isn't going to be able to do much to stop your average burglar.

 

[Underestimated Nutria]

Mum called me "you have a shot scar on your left arm right? Good." Needles to say I was confused. Apparently an old tuberculosis vaccine is somehow helping against coronavirus, seemingly helping the immune system fight non TB respiratory illnesses. The vaccine was mandatory across the USSR and still is across the former Soviet countries. Apparently a lot of former Soviet bloc countries are showing lower instances of corona deaths than some other places.

No real research or study results so far and its mostly conjecture and anecdotal evidence but interesting reading.

http://archive.li/HCDd2
http://archive.li/z1g4P
http://archive.li/amHQ9
http://archive.li/OW4bN
http://archive.li/PwIrB

Doesn't seem to be helping any of the dead health care workers?

(I'm assuming the BCG's mandatory mostly everywhere like it is here)

if true, though, maybe Otterly was prophetic

Coevolution with the plague

Houses being burned during an outbreak of pneumonic plague in China (Wikicommons). In China, large urban populations coevolved with dead...

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