Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

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This is kind of adorable. This kid made 3d printed ear guards so the mask doesn't cut into your ears. Nice bit of lateral thinking, kiddo.


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I asked around some acute/A&E consultants about what tests Johnson would need to be admitted to hospital for.

They uniformly said: lung x Ray, arterial blood gases, sputum film, supportive oxygen (the wee nose piece dealio).

The man is absolutely entitled to his medical privacy and we should be told not a bloody detail of what is happening - we have been told Raab is in charge and that‘s sufficient - but that seems to be the general agreement of what to expect. He is not a particularly well guy or he would not be in hospital at this time.

They also all agreed he won’t be released until he substantially improves, because any purely supportive care (antibiotics, IV fluids, oxygen tank) he would have been given in Downing Street to avoid publicity/panic. These folk have all been saying he was more seriously ill than publicly admitted for a few days now, so. Shrug. Take with the appropriate amount of salt.

I asked about the possibility of ventilation. They all had the view that the NHS trust responsible for his care will want him already in hospital in case his ABG is poor or he doesn’t pick up quickly, so that he can be ventilated quickly. Something I have been told by all the frontline medics I know (I’m sure the relevant kiwis can discuss) is that if/when respiratory arrest comes on coof patients, it does so very rapidly and is the major cause of death. They cannot have the PM coof his last in Number 10, or a blue light ambulance rush him very publicly to hospital.

So they will keep him until they feel confident the risk of deathcoof is past.
 
I asked around some acute/A&E consultants about what tests Johnson would need to be admitted to hospital for.

They uniformly said: lung x Ray, arterial blood gases, sputum film, supportive oxygen (the wee nose piece dealio).

The man is absolutely entitled to his medical privacy and we should be told not a bloody detail of what is happening - we have been told Raab is in charge and that‘s sufficient - but that seems to be the general agreement of what to expect. He is not a particularly well guy or he would not be in hospital at this time.

They also all agreed he won’t be released until he substantially improves, because any purely supportive care (antibiotics, IV fluids, oxygen tank) he would have been given in Downing Street to avoid publicity/panic. These folk have all been saying he was more seriously ill than publicly admitted for a few days now, so. Shrug. Take with the appropriate amount of salt.

I asked about the possibility of ventilation. They all had the view that the NHS trust responsible for his care will want him already in hospital in case his ABG is poor or he doesn’t pick up quickly, so that he can be ventilated quickly. Something I have been told by all the frontline medics I know (I’m sure the relevant kiwis can discuss) is that if/when respiratory arrest comes on coof patients, it does so very rapidly and is the major cause of death. They cannot have the PM coof his last in Number 10, or a blue light ambulance rush him very publicly to hospital.

So they will keep him until they feel confident the risk of deathcoof is past.

Long story short you are right. Most deaths are because not ventilating soon enough. I posted about it before, seems 8th day is the most vital 'cause that's when the cytokine storm causes the biggest upswing in inflamation. He probably isn't on ventilator yet. Just preemptive and probably CPAP.
 


The Gatestone Institute (probably neo-con more than anything, but based enough to be 'far right' to that model of impartiality Wikipedia) has a reasonably article about we don't know too much about its origins (bats weren't sold in that Wuhan market etc.) but it is clear PRC has been utterly negligent towards what we might still call the international community.


Probably posted, but the Swede-cucks find their do-nothing approach (rather than the Singapore model of restrict those at risk, leave others mostly alone or the usual universal lockdown) isn't really a bright idea.


King of Sweden repeating the PM's line of new found caution.


Ireland to ramp up testing to 4.5k a day. Given Ireland's small pop, it would seem ideal for a Singapore model, but the public attitude and bodies like the grossly incompetent HSE makes that not a pipe dream.


Gatestone have a decent summary of PRC's rubbish response that the WHO so criminally extol.

They mention the Chinky PPE equipment donations, including some to Ireland, of which a big proportion are useless, stupid thing like gowns made of issue or not covering risky areas of skin on a medic. They even said something like 20% of it was useless on Irish radio.
 
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I still think that it's just a slight cough and a wheeze that takes out the weakest of bodies.
While I wouldn't go that far, it's really not something to shut the entire country down for.

Really what's irritating me is the amount of people milking this for time off. I work in a hospital, but they've been offering up to 160 hours of extra PTO for pretty much any reason. Not just if you're sick/ with someone who is/ have kids, etc. Just for "I don't feel safe at work" type shit.

Then, even when you burn through all that, they'll give you extra hours to cover if you DO get something serious. All this on top of regular PTO and tons of FMLA.

So you get these people already out on FMLA for months for shit like "I'm sore". They finally come back to work and hear they can get pretty much a month off PAID FULL with no actual reason/proof needed? Right back out the door again.

What stops everyone from just abusing this shit and leaving the hospital a disaster? The government keeps telling people to stay home, the union, the hospital. Media has people scared and paranoid about it. More and more rumblings about people going to take the time off. What incentive is there to the people who keep coming back to work? It's essential work to the hospital. but there seems to exist this perfect storm to really screw it up.
 
This is a older post, but I would like to suggest the environment is on California's side as well. SoCal is a desert area, so a dry, hot area would not be conducive to a virus spreading.

It doesn't get hot until around June. Although sometimes it gets hot in April.
 
I asked around some acute/A&E consultants about what tests Johnson would need to be admitted to hospital for.

They uniformly said: lung x Ray, arterial blood gases, sputum film, supportive oxygen (the wee nose piece dealio).

The man is absolutely entitled to his medical privacy and we should be told not a bloody detail of what is happening - we have been told Raab is in charge and that‘s sufficient - but that seems to be the general agreement of what to expect. He is not a particularly well guy or he would not be in hospital at this time.

They also all agreed he won’t be released until he substantially improves, because any purely supportive care (antibiotics, IV fluids, oxygen tank) he would have been given in Downing Street to avoid publicity/panic. These folk have all been saying he was more seriously ill than publicly admitted for a few days now, so. Shrug. Take with the appropriate amount of salt.

I asked about the possibility of ventilation. They all had the view that the NHS trust responsible for his care will want him already in hospital in case his ABG is poor or he doesn’t pick up quickly, so that he can be ventilated quickly. Something I have been told by all the frontline medics I know (I’m sure the relevant kiwis can discuss) is that if/when respiratory arrest comes on coof patients, it does so very rapidly and is the major cause of death. They cannot have the PM coof his last in Number 10, or a blue light ambulance rush him very publicly to hospital.

So they will keep him until they feel confident the risk of deathcoof is past.

To this I say:

Stop Mimicing Pericles you posh floppy haired twit! We'll need you after this crap is over n all.
 
A few things.

Hoover Institute at Stanford University had a good virtual briefing about the situation with China. Pushback about the causes of the pandemic, implications for supply chain / trade, influence at the UN, and more. Worth watching.


Second, Palantir now has a deal with the CDC to provide coronavirus tracking. This will be the defense against the tail end of the virus and Wave 2, should it hit. They're selling a customized version of Palantir Foundry that will track test lab results, emergency room statuses, bed capacity and ventilator statuses.

Now, that's what they tell you. Palantir Foundry tracks a lot of other data, it's mostly used by financial groups looking to combat cyberfraud. One of its nicknames is Eye of Sauron, it can immediately locate the invisible. All of the data is supposed to be anonymized, the reality is it will probably consist of a lot of PII. Watch for some language to be slipped into Federal legislation shielding them from HIPAA violations.


Honestly, there are very few surface level details available describing the tech / diplomatic efforts to fight this plague. Hoping these are not blips and represent what the US will be doing going forward to conquer Covid, and glad we're not hearing that Google is in the mix.
 
Honestly, there are very few surface level details available describing the tech / diplomatic efforts to fight this plague. Hoping these are not blips and represent what the US will be doing going forward to conquer Covid, and glad we're not hearing that Google is in the mix.

Everyone's a bit busy right now, but those slightly less busy are not buying China Numba WAN, or China being the saviour of fucking anything. The big losses won't be felt for years, but there's alredy lots of talk of De-sinofication of the global economy.

China's farm betting was on this not happening probably for another 20-35 years when they'd have enough of a Middle Class buying up their own shit domestically that any lag from global demand would be mostly mitigated.

Lots of governments and government bods are being fairly quiet because they've all said lots of nice things about China before this bullshit started. The Smart Ones are keeping quiet or quietly realigning their positions, the stupid ones... who still bang the pro chinese drum (Like Turdeau) won't be around after the next elections.

EDIT: A good example of this is the UK. Who permitted Huwaei to contract for 5G infastructure and the UK was amenable to UK-Chinese trade talks. Both of those are out the window in a very short time.
 
Labs routinely lose samples, and this being CHINA of all places... I would expect it to happen a few times.

In the case of China, I wonder if it happen too often?

Styx and others Youtubers commented about Corona-chan.


Blue Falcons Suck

Yesterday, China had 4 Deaths from CCP Virus... But 18,000 died of "Shame".
Walter Stucke
"A pandemic is bad, but a pandemic plus a depression is worse," and, "If you destroy the world's economy, you think you can fight pandemics as easily?" Styx. Both brilliant quotes!
Three Spoons - FC Aspergers
Even the end of China is "Made in China"
 
I got more videos below but first I wanted to show you guys some of the Covid-19 trials that are being announced on Clinicaltrials.gov


As you can see, some of the drugs that have already been mentioned in this thread (Hydroxychloroquine, Azithromycin, Tocilizumab, Remdesivir) have registered trials:

ClinicalTrialsGov.jpg


I also found a couple of trials with vitamin C and zinc:

ClinicalTrialsGovZincVitaminC.jpg


For lulz, check out the one Sildenafil trial on that page 😋😆

Show this to anyone who claims that "this is a hoax" or "this is just like the flu":


"This was why you chose medicine"


I am seeing an increase in videos about authorities around the world using drones for all sorts of Covid-19 related
enforcement issues. Here are some videos about this:


The municipality of Saudi Qassim released a video showing thermal drones being used to measure body temperatures of shoppers in Buraidah, north central Qassim region in Saudi Arabia.


The Royal Oman Police uses drones to reduce gatherings in public places in the Omani capital Muscat in order to limit the spread of the novel coronavirus. Oman, a member of the six-nation Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC), is one of the least affected nations by the coronavirus pandemic. Oman had reported just under 300 cases and two deaths on Sunday.

And in response to this bullshit:

This is the last time I'm archiving your posts. Learn to archive or stop spamming videos. If you don't think they are worth archiving reconsider posting them .

I never asked you to archive anything at all for me so STFU and just ignore my posts. If I think something runs the risk of being removed I specifically request for it to be archived, it's what I have always done. You are literally the only one complaining about the videos, everyone else seems to appreciate them. What I have posted here are overwhelmingly mainstream news items, there's no reason for me or you to archive them because they were first broadcast as TV programs anyway and only later posted to Youtube as archives themselves (of those original news broadcasts on TV).
 
I've got people being Doomer's all around me where I am-- and every time I try to say the metrics shown to us, say that there have been more recoveries than deaths, I get shouted down and told I'm wrong. While yeah, the virus is terrible to have, those with healthy hygiene practices and immune systems seem to be just fine... old people and babies get the brunt of it.

And given the "it came from a lab" story, given how China has some of the worst safety regulations known to man? I could believe it.
 
My June flight to Finland has been cancelled, which means the quarantine may be extended beyond Spring.

FUCK CHINA.

FUCK CHINA

FUCK CHINA!!!

Also, I'm going to update-posting about Ukraine here, since I'm the resident hohol.

1319 - confirmed
1253 - currently active
28 - cured
38 - dead.


And remember kids.

FUCK CHINA!!!
 
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Everyone's a bit busy right now, but those slightly less busy are not buying China Numba WAN, or China being the saviour of fucking anything. The big losses won't be felt for years, but there's alredy lots of talk of De-sinofication of the global economy.

China's farm betting was on this not happening probably for another 20-35 years when they'd have enough of a Middle Class buying up their own shit domestically that any lag from global demand would be mostly mitigated.

Lots of governments and government bods are being fairly quiet because they've all said lots of nice things about China before this bullshit started. The Smart Ones are keeping quiet or quietly realigning their positions, the stupid ones... who still bang the pro chinese drum (Like Turdeau) won't be around after the next elections.

EDIT: A good example of this is the UK. Who permitted Huwaei to contract for 5G infastructure and the UK was amenable to UK-Chinese trade talks. Both of those are out the window in a very short time.
More people should be talking about.

People dying from a virus feels bad. Fighting back against a virus and those who spread it feels good.

I want to find those asshats who licked toilet seats and... uh... send them a strongly worded letter. No one who did that is innocent, they are murderers.
 
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