Orbiter Kat Speculation - With guest appearances by her sister, Jenna

Guess Kat's weight.

  • >200 lbs.

    Votes: 17 3.2%
  • 200 lbs.-250 lbs.

    Votes: 116 22.0%
  • 250 lbs.- 300 lbs.

    Votes: 85 16.1%
  • Damn that's a huge bitch.

    Votes: 309 58.6%

  • Total voters
    527
It looks sort of geometrically similar, but if you look at the bands that is not the same ring at all. It's one ring and one ring wrap. Kathy's ring has two thin bands of stones on the outside that do not intertwine with the central metal band, and the central metal band is what frames the central stones on her ring rather than one band of stones and one of metal that crisscross under the central piece. That's a very common geometric pattern on rings. The metal on her ring looks like silver to me, white gold has a much more lustrous, reflective, brilliant finish than silver.

I'm 95% sure her main ring is cubic zirconia set in silver. As for her ring wrap it's hard to tell, I could certainly see that being small diamonds set in white gold, possibly even bought from her Fred Meyer lol Phil has never even acknowledged the ring wrap let alone said where it was aquired, maybe Kathy bought it for herself and Phil doesn't even remember she has it.

I think it's pretty trashy she doesn't have a wedding band and still wears her engagement ring on her ring finger. Like what was the ring ceremony? They took off her engagement ring and put it back on as her wedding ring? Is the ring wrap supposed to be her wedding band? Was the ceremony they took off her engagement ring and put two rings back on the same finger? I'm surprised the 5 cats didn't object to the proceedings, cats are very finicky. Maybe it was hard to see what was happening through the haze of cigarette smoke in his chain-smoking mother's living-room.
It’s not uncommon for a bridal ring set to be matching and designed to be worn together. My dad gave my mom a high-end set with an engagement ring, wedding band and an anniversary band that made kind of a jewelry Voltron. They aren’t the most common these days, but they are out there on the high end.
 
It looks sort of geometrically similar, but if you look at the bands that is not the same ring at all. It's one ring and one ring wrap. Kathy's ring has two thin bands of stones on the outside that do not intertwine with the central metal band, and the central metal band is what frames the central stones on her ring rather than one band of stones and one of metal that crisscross under the central piece. That's a very common geometric pattern on rings. The metal on her ring looks like silver to me, white gold has a much more lustrous, reflective, brilliant finish than silver.

I'm 95% sure her main ring is cubic zirconia set in silver. As for her ring wrap it's hard to tell, I could certainly see that being small diamonds set in white gold, possibly even bought from her Fred Meyer lol Phil has never even acknowledged the ring wrap let alone said where it was aquired, maybe Kathy bought it for herself and Phil doesn't even remember she has it.

I think it's pretty trashy she doesn't have a wedding band and still wears her engagement ring on her ring finger. Like what was the ring ceremony? They took off her engagement ring and put it back on as her wedding ring? Is the ring wrap supposed to be her wedding band? Was the ceremony they took off her engagement ring and put two rings back on the same finger? I'm surprised the 5 cats didn't object to the proceedings, cats are very finicky. Maybe it was hard to see what was happening through the haze of cigarette smoke in his chain-smoking mother's living-room.
The engagement ring itself is one ring, as for the other ring(s) they appear to be wraps or wedding bands but it's really hard to tell. My reasoning that the Fred Meyer ring is her engagement ring is there are certain characteristics that the rings share that I have not seen in any other engagement ring that I've looked at, and believe me I looked at a ton of these back when we first got the one picture and this is by far the closest I've seen:
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It looks like hers when you flip the image from their site, there's a jeweled back portion that is in line with the jeweled band that is on the bottom, while the band above it is of a smooth all metal consistency. There is also a very small gap between the two bands that eventually merges towards the back of the ring. Without additional pictures of Kat's ring it's really hard to confirm it 100%, but in the video clip I posted Phil straight up mentions "$800 ring" and this rings normal price is $895 so it's in that range.

As for why he never mentioned the wrap/wedding band the simple answer for that is he's not going to unless someone asks him if Kat got a wedding band as well as an engagement ring. He was so desperate to mention how "cheap" the ring was so his paypigs would think their tips are going towards things other than Kat and the wedding that he's not going to willing admit "oh and then I got her wedding band for super cheap too dood". This coupled with the fact there's also a Fred Meyer mens ring that looks just like Phil's wedding band I feel there's enough circumstantial evidence to say this is more than likely the engagement ring.
 

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The engagement ring itself is one ring, as for the other ring(s) they appear to be wraps or wedding bands but it's really hard to tell. My reasoning that the Fred Meyer ring is her engagement ring is there are certain characteristics that the rings share that I have not seen in any other engagement ring that I've looked at, and believe me I looked at a ton of these back when we first got the one picture and this is by far the closest I've seen:


It looks like hers when you flip the image from their site, there's a jeweled back portion that is in line with the jeweled band that is on the bottom, while the band above it is of a smooth all metal consistency. There is also a very small gap between the two bands that eventually merges towards the back of the ring. Without additional pictures of Kat's ring it's really hard to confirm it 100%, but in the video clip I posted Phil straight up mentions "$800 ring" and this rings normal price is $895 so it's in that range.

As for why he never mentioned the wrap/wedding band the simple answer for that is he's not going to unless someone asks him if Kat got a wedding band as well as an engagement ring. He was so desperate to mention how "cheap" the ring was so his paypigs would think their tips are going towards things other than Kat and the wedding that he's not going to willing admit "oh and then I got her wedding band for super cheap too dood". This coupled with the fact there's also a Fred Meyer mens ring that looks just like Phil's wedding band I feel there's enough circumstantial evidence to say this is more than likely the engagement ring.

there seems to be one stone set in the middle of khet's ring, and surrounded by 8 small stones, but the fred meyer ring has 4 stones
 
Kat's ring has a bright spot in the middle, right where the Fred Meyer ring would be darkest.
Not necessarily, depending on the angle and lighting the shine could come from the edges of the diamond, you can look at pictures of people wearing diamond rings and you don't always see the brightness in the middle of the stone, here's an example of a similar ring at a similar angle with I'm presuming to be either a flash from a camera or some kind of overhead lighting similar to what we see in the photo:
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There are 5 primary points of illumination that stick out to me, the 4 corner parts that are metal (which would be more pronounced on Kat's ring because these metal points are larger than in the example) and then in the center there is light being reflected off the corner of the one diamond that creates a illumination effect in the center of the ring, like we see in the picture on Instagram.
 
This. I didn’t realize it until last night but this page is a smoking gun that no one brought up during the call.

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He lists his real income right here but makes no mention of it anywhere else and contradicts almost the entire filing because of it. This shows he’s hiding $4-6k monthly that just vanishes.
Nancy brought this up but Philip’s lawyer derailed the answer with some bullshit response. She was specifically asking about these columns.
Kat's ring has a bright spot in the middle, right where the Fred Meyer ring would be darkest.
I agree. Kat’s ring looks like a cheap knockoff of a grocery store bought ring.
 
I 100% doubt Phil even is aware theres an engagement and a wedding ring.

Two rings, dood? Fuck that.

Fred Meyer or mall ring are definitely the two most likely options but 'department store ring' definitely could just mean the ring department at Fred Meyer.
 
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I really just want Phil and Katherine to feel the full effect of a bankruptcy, just like anyone else.

I don't know why everyone hates Kat really. Maybe she has poor taste in men but is she really a terrible person? Maybe I missed some things. She didn't seem awful in Phil's Streams and people were saying some really terrible things about here.

I truly think Phil is a piece of shit and a terrible person but I also think Kat might be the victim here. There is no way she knew about just how deep the debt went and how deep the spending addiction went and still married him.

I get Panda Lee. She was obnoxious and an active part of his streams (and had her own terrible channel) but Kat seems to keep to herself. Can someone fill me in on why we are supposed to hate Khet?
 
I don't know why everyone hates Kat really. Maybe she has poor taste in men but is she really a terrible person? Maybe I missed some things. She didn't seem awful in Phil's Streams and people were saying some really terrible things about here.

I truly think Phil is a piece of shit and a terrible person but I also think Kat might be the victim here. There is no way she knew about just how deep the debt went and how deep the spending addiction went and still married him.

I get Panda Lee. She was obnoxious and an active part of his streams (and had her own terrible channel) but Kat seems to keep to herself. Can someone fill me in on why we are supposed to hate Khet?
> Didn't know how deep the debt went
Phil posted on Instagram that he was wearing long sleeves because he couldn't afford to pay the heating bill. This was while Kat and Phil were still in the "just talking" phase.
 
I don't know why everyone hates Kat really. Maybe she has poor taste in men but is she really a terrible person? Maybe I missed some things. She didn't seem awful in Phil's Streams and people were saying some really terrible things about here.

I truly think Phil is a piece of shit and a terrible person but I also think Kat might be the victim here. There is no way she knew about just how deep the debt went and how deep the spending addiction went and still married him.

I get Panda Lee. She was obnoxious and an active part of his streams (and had her own terrible channel) but Kat seems to keep to herself. Can someone fill me in on why we are supposed to hate Khet?
I don't think it's so much that people hate khet as it is people making fun of her for being associated with Phil. Panda was obnoxious, but in a way that seemed to try to appeal to Phil's general audience, so she got shit on (justly so). Khet? She uses the microwave and plays overwatch in her room, and we don't see anything other than that. It's just unfortunate that she: 1. Isn't notably attractive to the point that people say "how did Phil land this?!? (money)", 2. Has the personality of soggy toast and dryer lint, and 3. Doesn't do anything to feed into the autism vortex other than allegedly existing.

Khet isn't hated. Merely mocked for being the only alleged real person that CHOOSES to associate with Phil. If she had more of a presence beyond microwaves and thumb gestures, she might be disliked. Other than that, she's just window dressing for the grand disaster known as Phil.
 
I don't know why everyone hates Kat really. Maybe she has poor taste in men but is she really a terrible person? Maybe I missed some things. She didn't seem awful in Phil's Streams and people were saying some really terrible things about here.

I truly think Phil is a piece of shit and a terrible person but I also think Kat might be the victim here. There is no way she knew about just how deep the debt went and how deep the spending addiction went and still married him.

I get Panda Lee. She was obnoxious and an active part of his streams (and had her own terrible channel) but Kat seems to keep to herself. Can someone fill me in on why we are supposed to hate Khet?

I don't think people hate her but there is some poetic justice in a gold digger ending up with a bankrupt pigroach. Brings nice schadenfreude and that's what the farms run on.
 
I somewhat can sympathise with Kat to an extent, I think Phil lied largely about how far in the hole he was and he probably conceals his earnings from her. A spouse/partner should at least know this, its common sense. I cannot sympathise with her though because she did not strike gold. If Subaru man was anything to go for its all she wanted and she got it to an extent.

I think she filed divorce already but if not its coming and its coming fast, anyone would be an idiot to stick around in this instance because their reputation socially e.g. is fucked.
I don't think khet will leave dsp unless she already has someone lined up, like how she had been talking to DSP for a while before subaru man found out. If she was planning to make a move I think we'd have heard DSP talk about how she's been working way more than before since she'd need a bit of money saved up. Unless she has a new guy to pay for everything I don't think she can afford to leave DSP right now. I think we'll see khet ride this down pretty far. Even if DSP's bankruptcy is thrown out or he gets the chapter 7 and they sell the house he still has atleast 8 months to a year or maybe longer before the apartment saga begins. And after the apartment saga begins I think she'll stick around until it affects her 60% NEET lifestyle. The only way I see her leaving is if DSP's income drops to like 30% or below of what he makes now. And if the potatoes have taken enough of a toll and she has gained weight like some have theorized she might stay forever until the murder suicide saga.
 
(Moving my off-topic rambling to the Kat thread)
I don't know why everyone hates Kat really. Maybe she has poor taste in men but is she really a terrible person?
The signs we've been given indicate a strong "maybe".
- As you probably know, she was cheating on Subaru Man when she started getting involved with Pig.
- She seems to have put on a rather transparently fake persona for him at the time - remember when Dave was telling us how his new girlfriend's favorite hobbies were cooking and cleaning? The "soulmaid" stuff didn't come out of nowhere. And of course she was "saying things to him that no one ever said before" after meeting Dave like twice. It's his own fault for falling for that act, but it doesn't reflect well on Kat for choosing to put on the act.
- Once married, the act didn't last particularly long either - the "gourmet meals" quickly degraded into frozen junk, and the obsequious maid now has Phil resignedly muttering "Happy wife, happy life". There's a sort of sense that like the proverbial honest politician, the honest gold-digger stays bought.
- She seems to have gotten considerably fatter even while supposedly going to the gym all the time, which might indicate some sort of funny business.
- Despite living in a household that's perpetually on the financial brink, Kat doesn't contribute much of anything; she only works a couple days a week, keeps her finances rigorously separated from Phil's, and won't chip in even when the house is supposedly on the line. In fairness, much of the dire straits may be pig exaggeration.
- Some of Phil's weird new hangups about women in games seem to have come from some sort of raging jealousy or insecurity on Kat's part. This is purely speculation, but something does seem to be up.
- She obviously can't be a total saint if she's possessed by demons. :unholy:

There's obviously a lot of speculation and filling in the blanks here, but Kat just seems somewhat fishy in general.
 
There's obviously a lot of speculation and filling in the blanks here, but Kat just seems somewhat fishy in general.

Adding to the list:
* Peoplefinder records list about 10 addresses for her. Even if you say a few of those are false positives that is a lot of moving (she turns 30 in August so that's almost once/year her entire adult life). It's hard to find an explanation for these which doesn't involve Khet being the problem.
* She didn't just lie about wanting to cook and clean, she apparently lied about her job: Phil originally claimed Soulmare's work was going to transfer her to a branch near Renton because she was so important. After she moved in, that got retconned to "Khet needs to find a job", and the bankruptcy filings now claim she was unemployed for all of 2018 (plus, you know, the idea of transferring a cashier halfway across the country is just plain silly).
* She moved 1,000-plus miles to be with a man she'd met in person maybe 3 or 4 times. Phil is gross but was willing to spend ungodly amounts of money to flex on her during each of those trips. How does that not scream "gold digger" to everyone?

Despite living in a household that's perpetually on the financial brink, Kat doesn't contribute much of anything; she only works a couple days a week, keeps her finances rigorously separated from Phil's, and won't chip in even when the house is supposedly on the line. In fairness, much of the dire straits may be pig exaggeration.

I think he has told her everything is fine. Remember, Phil believes Chapter 7 BK is a "get out of jail free" card and Katherine is unusually stupid and incurious from what we have seen of her. This all goes double if we take Phil at his word (lol) and Khet is actually familiar with his internet presence (i.e. constant ebegging).
 
(Moving my off-topic rambling to the Kat thread)

The signs we've been given indicate a strong "maybe".
- As you probably know, she was cheating on Subaru Man when she started getting involved with Pig.
- She seems to have put on a rather transparently fake persona for him at the time - remember when Dave was telling us how his new girlfriend's favorite hobbies were cooking and cleaning? The "soulmaid" stuff didn't come out of nowhere. And of course she was "saying things to him that no one ever said before" after meeting Dave like twice. It's his own fault for falling for that act, but it doesn't reflect well on Kat for choosing to put on the act.
- Once married, the act didn't last particularly long either - the "gourmet meals" quickly degraded into frozen junk, and the obsequious maid now has Phil resignedly muttering "Happy wife, happy life". There's a sort of sense that like the proverbial honest politician, the honest gold-digger stays bought.
- She seems to have gotten considerably fatter even while supposedly going to the gym all the time, which might indicate some sort of funny business.
- Despite living in a household that's perpetually on the financial brink, Kat doesn't contribute much of anything; she only works a couple days a week, keeps her finances rigorously separated from Phil's, and won't chip in even when the house is supposedly on the line. In fairness, much of the dire straits may be pig exaggeration.
- Some of Phil's weird new hangups about women in games seem to have come from some sort of raging jealousy or insecurity on Kat's part. This is purely speculation, but something does seem to be up.
- She obviously can't be a total saint if she's possessed by demons. :unholy:

There's obviously a lot of speculation and filling in the blanks here, but Kat just seems somewhat fishy in general.
Seems pretty simple to me. He loves her because she's his mom and she loves him because he's her sugar daddy, all she has to do is cook, clean and work part-time, and gets to have her 'ahffice' and small-ass screen to play Overwatch. He probably doesn't even want sex.

It's a win-win. Until Nancy takes the toys away, that is.

Also I think it's fair to add that she's had a rough childhood. from what we know, and the relationship she has with DSP doesn't demand much from her. If anything, she's living the dream, but this will most probably change once the bankruptcy goes through and DSP loses his toys. DSP will likely get SubaruMan'd by some guy from work, the gym or anywhere you can find a viable candidate. And the requirements are simple - don't be DSP.
 
I don't know why everyone hates Kat really.

Mainly because she is a shit person.

She cheated on her ex with Phil, likely because Phil seemed to have more money. He boasted to her about his income, and claimed he has other financial sources to reel her in.
While she might not be grabbing wheelchairs by their ankles and shaking them for their change, she is in on Phil's scam and is profiting from it. Be it their home, the games she gets, the consoles she plays, the food she eats and the money she gets to spend.
Further more she is a shit tier wife since her husband is half a million dollars in debt and she refuses to find a full time job to help, just so she can stay at home and play video games.

Feel free to change my mind.
 
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I don't know why everyone hates Kat really

gonna try to list some reasons why

never thanked the paypigs for the life she has, and DSP has never thanked them on her behalf

depressed/stressed out from working 3 days a week

cucked content, i.e house tours, where my favourite form of autism came from, like finding what kinda hairbrush he had, which ended up being like a $80 boar's hair brush

won't let dsp do an authentic play-through on animal crossing

and she's an enabler, if we take subaru man's word for it, she wanted to help with dsp's alcoholism, and recently dsp said they used to go out for dinner and get drunk together but stopped the "getting drunk" part because he couldn't afford it anymore, they also regularly drink together at home "with dinner"

one of his main priorities during one of his first corona shopping visits, was fucking alcohol

I wonder what happened, to go from dsp getting help with his gin addiction from khet, to khet joining him

and every relationship should be 100/100, not 50/50 or whatever skewed perception they both have

that's why I hate her
 
Katherine was an instigating cunt in her first stream with Phil egging the trolls on. People forget that because videos after only show her bitch faces like she's being held captive under Phil. She got the reaction she wanted, but then of course some must defend the damsel in distress.

She's probably similar to Leanna. A gold digging, celebrity chasing selfish cunt that expected an easy life gallivanting around with her rich friends in the big city, mooching off the Youtube star. The only difference is Katherine really can't handle the heat unlike Leanna because she has severe mental illness.

I don't hate Katherine or care about her at all. I only find talk of her annoying because she's non-existent. Phil mentions her every fucking day while she hasn't been a part of his stream whatsoever for 18 months.
 
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