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"Petrified" lungs of coronachan's victims.
Black dots due to smoking.
So, correct me if I'm wrong, but doesnt that just look like the lung of a lifelong heavy smoker?
And are big cities even really getting screwed outside of NYC? I watched this and it seems...well, not that bad:
Is it possible that NYC, like Italy and Spain, simply has more unique circumstances and characteristics to make such a virus a maelstrom of shit? Aside from churchgoers or gross spring breakers/Mardi Gras revelers, I don't think most people, not even in other major cities, are as up close and personal in everyday life like NYers are.
NYC is a megacity, Megacities are hives of pestilence and debauchery. And they were more worried over racism. But even if they had a california style response, E.G. calling the white house at the sight of the very first case and following instructions to a T, you wouldnt slow it down much, with that many people packed into a small space its going to spread like wildfire.
Let me tell you something about medics. They aren’t gods. They human, and an awful lot of the younger ones have never really seen any truly bad shit. Yes they’ve seen car wrecks when they rotated through the ER years back, but if you go through rotations and end up in a gastro or dermatology or genetics or research (ahem) line of work you’re totally removed from the drama, the death, and the gore. ER doctors, paramedics, and military are different beasts. But an awful lot of these guys and gals will be Hugely shocked by this because it’s the first time they’re seeing wholescale death. They aren’t usually dealing with people in this situation and while they work hard, they weren’t working like this. They’re shocked because they’ve been dragged out of ophthalmology, or some random department, and shoved with minimal training into high throughput ICU, with very little training and shot PPE. I’m not frontline, and if they do this to me I’ll shit myself as well. They won’t, lucky patients, I’d be bloody useless.
spot on. Maybe add in ‘overseas anchor visa quota.’
Remember everyone, a week ago we had a response from a nurse in NYC flipping out at the horror of mechanical ventilators and how it feels like you are choking, drowning, and suffocating simultaneously while on them, how they struggle in fever induced delirium to rip them out. Anyone who regularly uses these machines could have told you that, and also tell you this is why you KNOCK PATIENTS OUT when using them.
The West is a very comfortable place to live. Part of that is we havent had to deal with a modern pandemic like this in over 100 years, except for swine flu which overwhelmingly affected the young and thus was promptly ignored by the boomers in power despite killing at least 500,000 people in 10 months. Event he older doctors/nurses are not used to pandemics, this is the first real wave of horror they've seen in their lives. Add in months of stress from coronavirus talk and long work hours and some are going to have panic breakdowns over these conditions.
If you aren't a self-centered cow and have people you care about that are older you'd be willing to take the hit economy wise for a higher assurance of them staying safe. We can rebuild the economy, you can't bring back the dead. As someone who has mostly older family myself, it's not about the fact that I would likely survive it if I caught it. It's that the only people I really care about have a much higher likelihood of dying.
These aren't just numbers. They aren't just some 60+ people who don't mean anything. A lot of them will be a now broken family struggling through the grief of not even getting to say goodbye, not having a funeral, not being in any way prepared to let these people go. Historically most other major death events still allowed you the comfort of seeing your dead or dying, being with them to end and comforting them and yourself with your presence. Corona doesn't even allow you that because it's magically contagious to the point it's too risky to allow visitors.
Hand-waiving economic depression because we need to prevent every single corona death is just as exceptional as hand-waiving the quarantine because the lives of a few are not worth taking economic hits. Someone who is desperately poor, or lower class, or middle class with debts to their name, is not selfish for saying "we cant afford to stay home with no income for 2 months, this will ruin us."
If it's not airborne in some fashion how is it spreading? It's moved astoundingly quickly for a something supposedly only spread if you pick up droplets or get a full blow of the too the face.
Even if it's only in droplets you'd think that they'd really start pushing the homemade masks at the very least when out in public even more because if you cough or sneeze unexpectedly into a piece of fabric it would significantly reduce your infectious sprays range and if both you and the un/infected person were masked it would result in it being that much harder for it to get out of their mask, through yours, and into you.
Airborne/= spreading hundreds of miles with no host. How is it spreading? Well, how does the flu infect 40+ million people a year in the US alone? You average person in the modern world is VERY mobile, and comes into contact with hundreds of thousands of surfaces and millions of different viruses and bacterium every day. Your average person is only like 4 people removed from someone living in downtown WuHan. In the interconnected world of today it is piss easy for any reasonably communicable disease to spread to all corners of the globe, something epidemeologists have warned about since the 70s at least.
Look up the infectious rate or death rate of diseases like measels and smallpox. Now compare them to Corona. Now compare the amount of shutdown that was doen for smallpox and measels VS corona.
Strategic use of quarantine is a good thing. Shutting down everything for 3+ months is killing a housefly with a tactical nuclear strike.
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