Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

[Notgoodwithusernames]

I wouldn't have minded if we had a fuller season of episodes, but it feels like a waste of space.

Geestly's explains why Trace is a terribly stupid character.

So basically a classic case of someone trying to put a square into a cylindrical hole.

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How may times is this shit going to trend?

I tell ya dude it’s astroturfing. Disney pays think tanks to come up with this stuff to prop up their brands.

 

[Gallofag]

Wondering if anyone has seen this:

With how single-minded opinions for TLJ has been, this was kinda refreshing. I don't care about Star Wars, and it's an awful movie just because of the obvious woke agenda it pushes. But everything else he says, I can't help but agree with.

That SW fans only want the same damn thing over and over again, how the franchise itself is too iconic for its own good, and most of all, how the originals are put on a pedestal despite being just as nonsensical and cheesy.
I remember arguing these facts with fans on other forums before it even came out, so I thought this was a refreshing video. Nice to see something that's not the usual hate-boner over it. Thought I'd share.

Edit: Thanks for the rating; you've only proved my point and the video's.

I don't agree with him for most of the video, but he did bring up a good point about Disney and the Lucasfilm story-group.

"If you need a committee to rubber stamp your fantasy adventure plot points for your consumption,
maybe you’re the one who doesn’t understand what the force is about."

 

[Gallofag]

Do the Zelda videos render his points here moot, at all? Or have any relevance? Yeah, I didn't think so.

You know, it pays to watch more than 5 minutes of something before you comment on it.

Your right They don't, that was my raw thoughts I thought I edited before posting first, Silly me.

 

[Guts Gets Some]

I don't agree with him for most of the video, but he did bring up a good point about Disney and the Lucasfilm story-group.

"If you need a committee to rubber stamp your fantasy adventure plot points for your consumption,
maybe you’re the one who doesn’t understand what the force is about."

Fair enough, but it's nice to get a different opinion every now and then.

Posting here made me remember why I can't stand Star Wars.

Your right They don't, that was my raw thoughts I thought I edited before posting first, Silly me.

I erased it. I get the feelings, but I'm not attacking anyone here; just offering a different opinion. No need to lash out at the thought of someone with a differing viewpoint right off. Someone's past work doesn't render their points on current topics moot, I say.

 

[Optimus Prime]

The good news is that Iger humiliated her after Solo bombing. He set up a conference call with Marvel and Pixar and then asked her why she screwed up. Also, the reports of her being banned from the Mandalorian sets and preproduction of season 2 are true.

Ahahahaha fucking bitch got wrecked. Can't argue with success...especially when there's a proven formula and it isn't woke shit.

That SW fans only want the same damn thing over and over again, how the franchise itself is too iconic for its own good, and most of all, how the originals are put on a pedestal despite being just as nonsensical and cheesy.
I remember arguing these facts with fans on other forums before it even came out, so I thought this was a refreshing video. Nice to see something that's not the usual hate-boner over it. Thought I'd share.

You can still do that and NOT be the same shit over - if anything, that's what the ST should have been - Luke reforming the Jedi Order without making the same mistakes that caused the whole shitshow back in the prequels.

And you can certainly do it without making what is quantifiably a fucking shit show with numerous plot flaws that simply make for a bad film (I.E. the fact the whole 'space chase' is hilariously dumb and slow as there's nothing really conveying a real sense of speed) and reducing the main character of the core trilogy into some old geezer who would sooner kill his nephew who has done nothing wrong BUT years previously wouldn't strike down his father who had committed numerous genocides because he sensed good in him.

 

[Guts Gets Some]

You can still do that and NOT be the same shit over - if anything, that's what the ST should have been - Luke reforming the Jedi Order without making the same mistakes that caused the whole shitshow back in the prequels.

And you can certainly do it without making what is quantifiably a fucking shit show with numerous plot flaws that simply make for a bad film (I.E. the fact the whole 'space chase' is hilariously dumb and slow as there's nothing really conveying a real sense of speed) and reducing the main character of the core trilogy into some old geezer who would sooner kill his nephew who has done nothing wrong BUT years previously wouldn't strike down his father who had committed numerous genocides because he sensed good in him.

Not saying it wasn't done poorly; I just personally think the ideas had merit.

 

[Creep3r]

That SW fans only want the same damn thing over and over again, how the franchise itself is too iconic for its own good, and most of all, how the originals are put on a pedestal despite being just as nonsensical and cheesy.

In essence its the definition of everything wrong with TFA, Bad Robot and Disney's take on the franchise. TLJ was a bad movie and shat on the heroes even more, but only because TFA started it already, and TLJ at the very least tried to be a little different despite being restricted to ESB's formula to a degree, but it was bogged down by Rian's ego, bad story and even worse characters created by a hollow creative team of Kennedy bootlickers and execs. OT purists only want the same formula to be repeated over and over again, hence why so many of them loved the fuck out of TFA but hated Rogue One, not because of the Death Star bs or the obnoxiously bloated cast and lore fuckery, but simply because it wasn't like the OT. They hated it simply because it "feels like an old EU story", in other words "its different from the OT" and that's bad, and that's all that matters. Hence why you have OT purists being more forgiving of IX and TLJ fetishists hating on it, or OT purists hating it because it wasn't exactly like ROTJ. Its all a clusterfuck really. People were open to the idea of new stories not being OT repetitions when people were still theorizing what the new films would be about, but JJ went and undid any potential there was for open mindedness. I personally still stand by the idea that Disney's shitty trilogy and nu-EU should've taken place hundreds of years after the original to keep the past preserved but allowing full freedom and new ideas to prosper. The Dark Horse Legacy comics did exactly this for example, using themes from TLJ to not shit on pre-established characters but to help develop their own original ones.

The end result was a disgraced and fallen future Skywalker who finds his way back to the light but in his own way thanks to the wisdom of his ancestor and the bonds of his comrades while still following his own unique path.

 

[Guts Gets Some]

Bad Robot

I'm a Trek fan. Believe me, I know what BR does to beloved franchises.

 

[Creep3r]

Congratulations fellow spergs. We've hit page 1500.

Will High Republic be shitty enough to warrant another 500 pages?

We shall see...

 

[Gallofag]

Congratulations fellow spergs. We've hit page 1500.
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Will High Republic be shitty enough to warrant another 500 pages?

We shall see...

I hope so, I don't want to waste my time reading mediocre books though.

 

[Mississippi Motorboater]

That video in defense of TLJ is complete garbage. On top of regurgitating the same pedantic strawman arguments parroted by the rest of the TLJ Defense Force, it literally ends on the plea for people to "Put away their rulebooks and let the film take them on the journey that the filmmakers want". Just the same typical "abandon your expectations and knowledge of the universe, and just consume it on face value of its themes and shallow plot beats". More of the same shit spouted by HelloGreedo, Matt Martin, and the rest of the fart-huffing spergs that prostrate themselves on the cross in defense of Disney's Star Wars. Someone remind me why this video should be taken seriously, again?

In essence its the definition of everything wrong with TFA, Bad Robot and Disney's take on the franchise. TLJ was a bad movie and shat on the heroes even more, but only because TFA started it already, and TLJ at the very least tried to be a little different despite being restricted to ESB's formula to a degree, but it was bogged down by Rian's ego, bad story and even worse characters created by a hollow creative team of Kennedy bootlickers and execs. OT purists only want the same formula to be repeated over and over again, hence why so many of them loved the fuck out of TFA but hated Rogue One, not because of the Death Star bs or the obnoxiously bloated cast and lore fuckery, but simply because it wasn't like the OT. They hated it simply because it "feels like an old EU story", in other words "its different from the OT" and that's bad, and that's all that matters.

This eerily sounds like a diagnosis of RedLetterMedia.

 

[Oaat]

Wondering if anyone has seen this:

With how single-minded opinions for TLJ has been, this was kinda refreshing. I don't care about Star Wars, and it's an awful movie just because of the obvious woke agenda it pushes. But everything else he says, I can't help but agree with.

That SW fans only want the same damn thing over and over again, how the franchise itself is too iconic for its own good, and most of all, how the originals are put on a pedestal despite being just as nonsensical and cheesy.
I remember arguing these facts with fans on other forums before it even came out, so I thought this was a refreshing video. Nice to see something that's not the usual hate-boner over it. Thought I'd share.

Edit: Thanks for the rating; you've only proved my point and the video's.

I liked TL;DW's stream better. Nerrels points are very mediocre. Star Wars fans aren't a hive mind, so I can only imagine presenting these "facts" got you nowhere. And the idea that the OT is nonsensical and cheesy is a lie usually elevated by pompous reviewers and/or Disney apologists.

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[BipolarPon]

We'd all like to pretend that bad writing in star wars the clone wars are
mutually exclusive but the truth is they're not and never have been the Clone Wars has had its fair share of misses

This!

This is the first semi popular Star Wars Lore channel I've seen that points that out, also the D-sqaud while not good at least kept the plot moving even though we never found out what the encryption was or how they helped out the republic,and that Pit droid while annoying wasn't near as dumb or Careless as Turd Hair who made me keep banging my head.

Anyway, in other news, Disney finally unveiled nu-Darth Bane's color scheme. As many know, the final episode of Filoni Wars retconned him to look like Vader, however Leland Chee confirmed that this was simply the ceremonial funeral armor or something, however Disney has adopted this as his permanent and true look that he had throughout his life. So now he is Darth Vader the White...

His lightsaber barely even looks red. Shit looks fucking pink or violet. His sickly skin color and dark nails are still the same as his original design though. For comparison this is what his funeral armor looked like in the Filoni Wars episode where his color scheme is less clear:

And here is a fan redesign with his original unique design:

And here is his unused design from Filoni Wars:

Which Filoni and George had removed despite the animators already having the scene almost done...

When I first saw Darth Bane in Filoni Wars, I honestly thought he was a new Kaleesh Sith, I had to take a double take when Yoda referred to him as Darth Bane, I was like seriously you changed the design despite already having a model of him that's closer to the original design. I heard Filoni included Bane to save him from the Eu purge yet they completely redesigned him. I have doubts Filoni meant for this just to be funerary armor, and that was just an explanation Leeland Chee came up with to appease fans. If I'm wrong please correct me.

For all I Know he could of been an original character and last minute changed him to Darth Bane but they wanted to use the design for their original character.

I'm a Trek fan. Believe me, I know what BR does to beloved franchises.

At least the Star Trek films were meant to be in an original continuity, but alas his stain on the Star Trek franchise still can be felt to this day with STD and Patrick Picard.

 

[Gallofag]

That video in defense of TLJ is complete garbage. On top of regurgitating the same pedantic strawman arguments parroted by the rest of the TLJ Defense Force, it literally ends on the plea for people to "Put away their rulebooks and let the film take them on the journey that the filmmakers want". Just the same typical "abandon your expectations and knowledge of the universe, and just consume it on face value of its themes and shallow plot beats". More of the same shit spouted by HelloGreedo, Matt Martin, and the rest of the fart-huffing spergs that prostrate themselves on the cross in defense of Disney's Star Wars. Someone remind me why this video should be taken seriously, again?

HelloGreedo was hard on Geroge Lucas for the prequels but did a 180 once the Disney movies came out.

 

[Cactuar King]

This is the first semi popular Star Wars Lore channel I've seen that points that out, also the D-sqaud while not good at least kept the plot moving even though we never found out what the encryption was or how they helped out the republic,and that Pit droid while annoying wasn't near as dumb or Careless as Turd Hair who made me keep banging my head.

Oh, that reminds me of how stupid the ending for that arc was. I remember that big, starship destroying exploson Artoo was caught up in, and I remember thinking "How'd he get out of that one unscathed?" And then it turns out he did't, he was right in the epicenter of the blast, but he was miraculously mostly intact, so they could just put him back together with next to no effort.

This big fucking explosion that totally destroyed a carrier, and Artoo just has his dome and one leg off. What a fucking cheat.

 

[Flexo]

That SW fans only want the same damn thing over and over again, how the franchise itself is too iconic for its own good, and most of all, how the originals are put on a pedestal despite being just as nonsensical and cheesy.
I remember arguing these facts with fans on other forums before it even came out, so I thought this was a refreshing video. Nice to see something that's not the usual hate-boner over it. Thought I'd share.

Sorry, but no. That's almost the classic corporate answer. They make something and half-ass the result, and then when the audience rejects it claims "they just want the same thing." Fans want what they always want: Quality stories. You can do something new, but it needs to be good.

 

[HeyYou]

Edit: Thanks for the rating; you've only proved my point and the video's.

Who the fuck cares about ratings, you sperg?

 

[Adamska]

Who the fuck cares about ratings, you sperg?

The funniest thing is I ignored that post until I saw the edit. Enjoy your new sticker dude.

And I'm still of the mind that the Prequels were still bad, and this is just nostalgia for better times playing. This is obviously helped tho by the side media being as a whole very good, such as Tartakovsky's cartoon, Republic Commando, and so on.

Sequels don't even got that really.

 

[Guts Gets Some]

Sorry, but no. That's almost the classic corporate answer. They make something and half-ass the result, and then when the audience rejects it claims "they just want the same thing." Fans want what they always want: Quality stories. You can do something new, but it needs to be good.

As much as I'd like to agree with you, I've seen far too much of the opposite everywhere else. The examples in the video of what everyone wanted were what I had all seen before.

Maybe it's different on KF, as is the case with most things, but not in most places, I found.

Who the fuck cares about ratings, you sperg?

Whoosh

 

[Flexo]

As much as I'd like to agree with you, I've seen far too much of the opposite everywhere else. The examples in the video of what everyone wanted were what I had all seen before.

It's called "nutpicking."

Take any substantially large group of people, and the odds you can find at least 1 person fitting a description (no matter how outlandish) approach 1. Now give all those people social media accounts that are search-engine ready and you have ready made proofs for anybody making any point.

Hell you could probably prove Star Wars fans are a bunch of furries that were mostly upset that Rey wasn't a catgirl if you had a lazy afternoon.