RWBY - The Hindenburg on which Rooster Teeth rests its hopes, dreams and future

[Sayon]

I present to you...shilling.

They had Donald J. Trump go to jail for conspiring with Putin since Ivanka Trump arrested him after drunkard Melania arranged for planted cameras that went undectected for who knows how long. Volume 7 confirms RWBY will never get better.

 

[AverageAnimeWatcher]

Semblances require Aura, Maiden magic doesn't. Amber got ganked by CME who broke her aura but she managed to throw some magic at Cinder afterwards. Magic is probably supposed to be limitless albeit constrained by the user's focus: Amber

I would buy it... except that's not what the show implied.

Remember how Qrow being able to transform into a bird shocked everyone as if it was supposed to be impossible and more impossible than characters literally altering the fundamentals forces of nature like gravity, magnetism, and time. It was the result and not in that it was limitless or that it didn't use aura that was explicitly different.

Nobody thought of Qrow and Raven turning into birds as just, maybe, their semblances because the difference is in the effect, supposedly.

That being said, magic does seem to have that perk of being more powerful.

Also I'm salty they ruined Weiss's fighting style, they turned it from rune casting rapier user to boring static summons where she just stands there. They have no idea how to animate the ballet moves they tried to add in, I'd rather they didn't because it was pure cringe.

I couldn't agree more. This is also shown in her new design, a graceful fencer with ballet moves and a knight with heavy armor are two vastly different styles. And the latter really doesn't fit her character.

 

[BroccoliBrain]

I would buy it... except that's not what the show implied.

Remember how Qrow being able to transform into a bird shocked everyone as if it was supposed to be impossible and more impossible than characters literally altering the fundamentals forces of nature like gravity, magnetism, and time. It was the result and not in that it was limitless or that it didn't use aura that was explicitly different.

Nobody thought of Qrow and Raven turning into birds as just, maybe, their semblances because the difference is in the effect, supposedly.

That being said, magic does seem to have that perk of being more powerful.

Hah, to be honest a lot of what I write is just what I wish they did and I have to be careful to remind myself that wasn't their intention and they fucked it up in a different way entirely. They had that way out and they just... ignored it!?

On that note, maybe Ozpin was a giant troll and gave them those powers after seeing that they had corvid names as cruel joke (I mean this is the same guy who catapults teenagers off cliffs fairly regularly). Raven's portals looked so mysterious in her first appearance and they managed to make that lame too by saying it's only tied to people she's bonded with, like why RT? Why do you have to keep doing that thing you do? Her portals are just regular shit, relying on her bonds with people even though she abandoned them, and her turning into bird is what floors everyone?

I don't even want to think about how religion/worship works in RWBY now that it's relevant to the setting.

 

[Random Internet Person]

In other news, RT has reuploaded their World of Remnant videos to some YouTube channel they have for their animation...and they kept Vic as the narrator for the Volume 4 videos. Consensus of my friends is that RT was either lazy or couldn't afford Jason Liebrecht to redo them.

 

[Dumpster dived waifu]

I couldn't agree more. This is also shown in her new design, a graceful fencer with ballet moves and a knight with heavy armor are two vastly different styles. And the latter really doesn't fit her character.

To be fair, if Weiss is going for a Paladin design, she could re-use her V5 ability of tanking near fatal hits to progress the plot. Might be her only use nowadays.

In other news, RT has reuploaded their World of Remnant videos to some YouTube channel they have for their animation...and they kept Vic as the narrator for the Volume 4 videos. Consensus of my friends is that RT was either lazy or couldn't afford Jason Liebrecht to redo them.

It's laziness. Effort would cost them money, and they can't afford that when RWBY isn't airing.

 

[ChevroletBlackboard]

In other news, RT has reuploaded their World of Remnant videos to some YouTube channel they have for their animation...and they kept Vic as the narrator for the Volume 4 videos. Consensus of my friends is that RT was either lazy or couldn't afford Jason Liebrecht to redo them.

That or just avoiding the gnashing of teeth from the Vic stans about how he's "Being unperson'd or some crap."

The WoR reuploads are to just have all of their RWBY content on one channel, it's not worth getting dragged back into the Vic lolsuit and having Hero Hei spin this as RT trying to erase their past with Vic. The most that's gone into these is that the early ones had some of the in-house marketing shots for Salem and Ozpin.

 

[Rondo Richter Belmont]

That or just avoiding the gnashing of teeth from the Vic stans about how he's "Being unperson'd or some crap."

The WoR reuploads are to just have all of their RWBY content on one channel, it's not worth getting dragged back into the Vic lolsuit and having Hero Hei spin this as RT trying to erase their past with Vic. The most that's gone into these is that the early ones had some of the in-house marketing shots for Salem and Ozpin.

The stans would be justified in calling it that, because Cuck Teeth has very much done so of washing their hands of association with Vic due to being virtue signaling turds who had no balls in calling out their abusive former VP of the company, nor did they say shit about Gray Haddock who ran the Animation Division like a concentration camp during his desperate quest to make his SJW Mecha Animu, as popular as the show he had been stealing resources from for a long time.

Considering that Vic wasn’t mentioned in the RWBY Book and yet Haddock (Who a few days prior was outed), and Kathleen Zuelch (Whom they especially had a hate boner for, prior to Vic) both were credited...Logically, if they did WoR with that faggot Jason it would look like unpersoning worse than what Kathleen got.

 

[Random Internet Person]

tanking near fatal hits to progress the plot

That's just what Monty used Aura as. And now the show is dealing with the consequences of playing fast and loose with the rules for it.

To be fair, if Weiss is going for a Paladin design, she could re-use her V5 ability of tanking near fatal hits to progress the plot. Might be her only use nowadays.

I mean, she is a mage. And honestly, people these days would be happy if she did more than summoning. That being said, would you consider her Death Battle against Mitsuru Kirijo from the Persona series a better display of her abilities than what RWBY proper has showed us?

That or just avoiding the gnashing of teeth from the Vic stans about how he's "Being unperson'd or some crap."

The WoR reuploads are to just have all of their RWBY content on one channel, it's not worth getting dragged back into the Vic lolsuit and having Hero Hei spin this as RT trying to erase their past with Vic. The most that's gone into these is that the early ones had some of the in-house marketing shots for Salem and Ozpin.

Fair enough. My friends and I were just wondering what happened what they'd do when they got to V4 and Vic's stuff.

Considering that Vic wasn’t mentioned in the RWBY Book and yet Haddock (Who a few days prior was outed), and Kathleen Zuelch (Whom they especially had a hate boner for, prior to Vic) both were credited...Logically, if they did WoR with that faggot Jason it would look like unpersoning worse than what Kathleen got.

Didn't they also credit Shane Newville even though he had just some bit part?

 

[ChevroletBlackboard]

The stans would be justified in calling it that, because Cuck Teeth has very much done so of washing their hands of association with Vic due to being virtue signaling turds who had no balls in calling out their abusive former VP of the company, nor did they say shit about Gray Haddock who ran the Animation Division like a concentration camp during his desperate quest to make his SJW Mecha Animu, as popular as the show he had been stealing resources from for a long time.

Considering that Vic wasn’t mentioned in the RWBY Book and yet Haddock (Who a few days prior was outed), and Kathleen Zuelch (Whom they especially had a hate boner for, prior to Vic) both were credited...Logically, if they did WoR with that faggot Jason it would look like unpersoning worse than what Kathleen got.

There's so many buzzwords in that first paragraph you could start a beehive of exceptionalism.

I really, genuinely had scrubbed from my brain how fucking monotonous Vic stans are. Y'all sound the exact same like Christ.

 

[Rondo Richter Belmont]

That's just what Monty used Aura as. And now the show is dealing with the consequences of playing fast and loose with the rules for it.

I mean, she is a mage. And honestly, people these days would be happy if she did more than summoning. That being said, would you consider her Death Battle against Mitsuru Kirijo from the Persona series a better display of her abilities than what RWBY proper has showed us?

Fair enough. My friends and I were just wondering what happened what they'd do when they got to V4 and Vic's stuff.

Didn't they also credit Shane Newville even though he had just some bit part?

Newville was also mentioned in the book, which really says a lot about Rooster Teeth.

There's so many buzzwords in that first paragraph you could start a beehive of exceptionalism.

I really, genuinely had scrubbed from my brain how fucking monotonous Vic stans are. Y'all sound the exact same like Christ.

Said the pot to the kettle, after using stans without any irony.

But I’m not here for an autist sissy slap fight, this thread is about RWBY (And by that extension, Rooster Teeth) which we should be discussing.

 

[Jewelsmakerguy]

I mean, she is a mage. And honestly, people these days would be happy if she did more than summoning. That being said, would you consider her Death Battle against Mitsuru Kirijo from the Persona series a better display of her abilities than what RWBY proper has showed us?

One thing that bothered me about that death battle is Weiss's death. Like, was the corpse turned into those crumbs between cuts? Or were they just too lazy to actually show the body hit the ground like they did her sword?

 

[Random Internet Person]

One thing that bothered me about that death battle is Weiss's death. Like, was the corpse turned into those crumbs between cuts? Or were they just too lazy to actually show the body hit the ground like they did her sword?

So, about Weiss vs Mitsuru, I actually did some digging. Here's what I found:

1. Why was Weiss' death not brutal (7:55)? One idea was that there was going to be actual damage amongst the combatants but it was scrapped due to animation limitations. Another reason for this is a brutal death just isn't in the same vein as the series being represented. Also the finishing move is Mitsuru's insta-kill move so Persona fans do know that she killed Weiss.

Torrian (Death Battle's 3D animator): There is time and budget constraint.. Also Torrian thinks Weiss vs Mitsuru may fit in a clean death. I learn this from the Pokemon.
Also they are sophisticated fighters, they fight with ice so ice is likely freezing some blood, also rapiers are not very brutal weapons and tend to be used for clean kills.
DEATH BATTLE! is not a Happy Tree Friend ripoff - Death Battle does take characters at their strongest and in a blood-lusted mind but this does not mean they have to be over-violent.
Mitsuru's finishing blow in the animation was inspired from her Instinct Kill/Astral Heat from P4A/BBCTB. She just freezes her enemy and stabs... so no cutting anything in half.

Spoiler: More Weiss vs. Mitsuru Trivia!

Also, some other shit:

• None of the team who worked on Weiss VS Mitsuru worked on the Ruby VS Ragna DBX (18:50).
• Miles and Kerry were allegedly fine with Weiss' death (20:55). If anything their complaints lied with how they pronounced Myrtenaster.
• Ben explains that they cannot usually get a combatant's original voice actor as it generally involves them breaking their contracts (2:30).
• Kara's (Kara Eberle, Weiss' VA) reaction to the episode is that it was different to what she was expecting particularly in regards to the character's size
• Did Kara ever expect to voice a scene where Weiss calls someone else an ice queen (23:45)? No and it's her favorite line in the episode. It was the one thing Ben really wanted to incorporate and it was disappointing when it wasn't in the original script because it would've felt forced.

Most of this trivia is from Death Battle's podcast Death Battle Cast.

 

[Random Internet Person]

Someone found a cool thing from Monty himself. https://twitter.com/theKitanoHouse/status/1246904266477826049

 

[Xenomorphs Are Cute]

Someone found a cool thing from Monty himself. https://twitter.com/theKitanoHouse/status/1246904266477826049

The RWBY shills & M&K cocksuckers are already on duty in the comments. Tho the people with well-working brain are already ratio'ing them.

 

[Sayon]

Can someone bother to tell what's the big deal in that link for everyone who doesn't want to bother with Twitter posting?

 

[Random Internet Person]

Can someone bother to tell what's the big deal in that link for everyone who doesn't want to bother with Twitter posting?

Basically, a Twitter user is trying to say Adam was always an abusive ex boyfriend, and someone posted a clip responding that showed Monty explaining how he positioned Blake as an “apprentice” in the Black trailer, which was meant to show that their relationship was always mentor and student, and the response to that was “mentor/student to lovers” is a common anime trope.

 

[Dumpster dived waifu]

Basically, a Twitter user is trying to say Adam was always an abusive ex boyfriend, and someone posted a clip responding that showed Monty explaining how he positioned Blake as an “apprentice” in the Black trailer, which was meant to show that their relationship was always mentor and student, and the response to that was “mentor/student to lovers” is a common anime trope.

Just because it's a common trope doesn't mean you can assume that its what's actually happening. Just fucking admit Miles retconned Adam to be a shitty abusive boyfriend because hes a bad writer (or was pulling from his experience dating the VA for Blake). Adam has been wasted potential since V3.

 

[Cactuar King]

Just because it's a common trope doesn't mean you can assume that its what's actually happening. Just fucking admit Miles retconned Adam to be a shitty abusive boyfriend because hes a bad writer (or was pulling from his experience dating the VA for Blake). Adam has been wasted potential since V3.

Adam was Miles' self-insert all along, who knew?

 

[ChevroletBlackboard]

Even as someone who does think Adam was a badly written character before and after the abuser turn, I don't think it was an M&K brainchild. Not saying they're not often bad writers but Monty wasn't exactly batting home runs every time.

My big theory on this is Shane's letter that he wrote after V3. Shane spends an entire page whining about how a fight between Raven and JNPR was cut when it would have likely been a mess, alongside mentioning that Adam was meant to have a full fight with Yang. But Shane never mentions anything about Adam as a character, and given how the letter goes into a lot of detail on M&K 'ruining Monty's vision' or somesuch, I feel like Miles or Kerry entirely throwing Adam's character out to make him an abusive hate-sink would have been something Shane got livid about.

 

[AverageAnimeWatcher]

My big theory on this is Shane's letter that he wrote after V3. Shane spends an entire page whining about how a fight between Raven and JNPR was cut when it would have likely been a mess, alongside mentioning that Adam was meant to have a full fight with Yang. But Shane never mentions anything about Adam as a character, and given how the letter goes into a lot of detail on M&K 'ruining Monty's vision' or somesuch, I feel like Miles or Kerry entirely throwing Adam's character out to make him an abusive hate-sink would have been something Shane got livid about.

I think this is the problem with people that defend "Monty's vision". The man was an amazing animator, and he loved his anime, and he did fantastic work doing all the groundwork, but he was also a terrible writer. But I don't hold this against him because he knew his limits.

For starters this:

"Geography determines your culture and culture determines your people-Monty Oum""

That quote alone explains why RWBY had a bad start (story-wise) where the heroes didn't even know the villains existed after 4 seasons.

That might, and I say that with a huge grain of salt because I don't agree with Tabula rasa, be true in real life, but for writing that is wrong on so many levels. It's actually backward. I have some writer friends that love creating worlds, civilizations, and even entire universes, but they lose sight of what matters the most in a story: The characters.

In a story, the characters define both the culture and geography your story needs.

Tolkien might be an exception because his stories were just an excuse for his languages and world-building, but I would also argue that save for his die-hard fans, the stories that really resonated with the general public are character-based (The Hobbit and LOTR). Gandalf is part of Pop Culture; "Numenor" is not.

I sincerely doubt Monty's vision was anything more complex than "cute anime girls kick a lot of ass". I think in the long run Monty would've been happy with keeping animating an amazing choreography, but his vision still needed a competent writing team to take it beyond mere eye candy.

I'm aware Monty did have some ideas like why Ozpin didn't have a name based on color, but what actually needed work was the plot and how his characters would grow and develop as people.