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Bingo. This is the direct link I was searching for! You are a bonafide internet Sherlock Homes.Hold up. I recognize the 'Sleepy System' as one of the only people that replies to Receipts Y'all's Twitter. I've mentioned them a couple of times as one of the most ridiculous stans I've seen. She shows up everywhere crusading for Chloe, outing accounts the criticize Nin when they change their name, making videos, accusing Chloe-hating Cyberbullies of stealing her credit card.
Based on the e-begging going on here, I think Sleepy, decapilate, and Receipts Y'all are all the same person.
Yes. I have done my research. This is literally my field of study. Working towards a doctorate.Wow y’all really haven’t done your research on DID and how alters and systems work?
Yes. I have done my research. This is literally my field of study. Working towards a doctorate.
You have been led to believe that what you are looking at is an accurate depiction of this disorder when it’s not. Basics are there, but anyone can pull up a few web pages and manufacture that within a day. What’s missing are the true subtler signs. You are being manipulated by someone who doesn’t actually care about you beyond what attention or money you give her. You don’t deserve to be lied to like this, to be strung along in her fantasy game.
And thank you and all the others who have dabbled or in the psych field currently that has posted. Y’all the real mvps educating us humble uninformed folk.Yes. I have done my research. This is literally my field of study. Working towards a doctorate.
You have been led to believe that what you are looking at is an accurate depiction of this disorder when it’s not. Basics are there, but anyone can pull up a few web pages and manufacture that within a day. What’s missing are the true subtler signs. You are being manipulated by someone who doesn’t actually care about you beyond what attention or money you give her. You don’t deserve to be lied to like this, to be strung along in her fantasy game.
Seems like she changes her approach depending on who she's talking to. In one tweet she says that alters are their own individuals and should be treated as such, in another she says she doesn't "flesh out" her alters and is just trying to improve communication to move towards full integration
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It was great being called a nincompoop and then having death wished on us.Anyone else completely lose it seeing the word 'nincompoop' amidst all that?
Not a single post I came across on this thread pointed to anything but blogs, her own stories (which ingratiates her delusions of grandeur may I add), and absolutely nothing scientifically established or arrived at.
There was not one academic or scholastic post I came across, the closes thing to resembling that was an opinion piece in "Psychology Today,"
Chloe's first video was convincing, but it was when I clicked on her page that I quickly saw she was full of hot dog shit. So how do you debunk someone without being an actual trained clinician, well consult the one thing I do have the ability to access, an academic database full of scholarly research on the topic. So first I will quote and actually link to the Diagnostic & Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders V, while I won't share my electronic source because it links to my institutions library, this source outlines what the DSM covers well, for all dissociative disorders. For those of you who don't want to read the link, you can find that patients with DID show that, "The identities happen involuntarily and are unwanted and cause distress. People with dissociative identity disorder may feel that they have suddenly become observers of their own speech and actions, or their bodies may feel different... they are all manifestations of a single, whole person." Which means each manifestation of an alternate personality ot presence is distinct and occurs for reasons linked to trauma. Side bar, for anyone who watches Mr. Robot, the main character created his first personality when he was sexually abused by his father repeatedly as a child, his alter is named Mr. Robot, which also happens to be his father's store's name from childhood, Mr. Robot appeared like the main characters father (you do not know this at first) but was there to protect the character and would take control without the host knowing. There were periods of time in the show you were left with figuring things out because time was unaccounted for where an alter took control, things got so bad the main character even forgot who his sister was and it took a whole season to figure it out. I really suggest the story as from what I have read, it is a great depiction of what the disorder actually manifests itself as. That being said, alters are created for reasons that the host does not know about, that the host cannot comprehend or simply does not have the capacity to understand. Integration is not the formal outcome desired in therapy, really learning to live with the disorder and avoiding triggers while trying to figure out the extent of the trauma underlying it all is, this can sometimes lead to integration, it can also lead to the alter created to protect from the abuse communicating as they deem fit the trauma as it happened for the host to process. The host may never fully integrate as it may just be too much to allow their mind to live in a reality that they just couldn't cope with. This is typically something that happens when a child is repeatedly and methodically molested by someone they love or someone that should care for them, it can also happen if exposed to serious traumatic stressors at an age that the brain cannot cope with stress of this nature. I keep going back to Mr. Robot, but it serves as a good example given my lack of real world examples, molested his whole life by a father, beaten and blamed for his father's abuse by his mother, loved but abandoned by his sister who fled the abuse when she had the chance leaving him behind. That is the typology for this type of disorder, and even then, it is one of a plethora of comorbid factors that could manifest. DID occurs in less than 1% of psychiatric patients, and is typically accompanied by anxiety and mood disorders as well as behavioral disorders. These people do not crave attention, because it is the attention that sets them off in the first place. They withdraw, they fantasize about a life they do not live, they dissociate, they do not crave fame or attention like these charlatans do. The DSM dedicates relatively little to the disorder because, and I am being frank here, it occurs so rarely that modern psychology and psychiatry have not collected enough data to make inferences on it.
What is sad is that I am an actual published author in scholastic journals
There are so, so, so many more. Tried not to link any with children. Kids make up the bulk of the "Thank you DissociaDID! You made us realize we have DID!" TikToks. It's horrifying. And these are the people saying that Trisha Paytas is damaging the stigma surrounding DID.
And in a recent video she claimed that the goal of therapy wasn't full integration? God, this girl tests me.
Both Chloe and Nan have been making tweets and instagram stories that seem to address things that are being said here so its almost a certainty that they know at this point.
But notice how Trisha's single offhand comment traumatized Chloe enough to make her split into a new alter, yet we say way worse and she's absolutely fine.
Did your stellar educators not teach you how to structure and organize your writing? Second graders learn to break their paragraphs up better than this nonsense. Jesus
. Y'all say "poor girl, she's burning herself on camera," do you not realize how fucking manipulative that is?? She could easily delete the Tatiana channel and/or disable comments, but she's thriving from the attention.
Okay I've read everything posted here and all the links
Also y'all seem to have missed her first suicide attempt. It was detailed in her Toi magazine article. It was when she was still in college and she said that was the first time she was co-con with Kyle, so first time she was aware of his existence.
- Regarding her sexual trauma timeline since some of y'all seem confused: Her ask.fm had her stating multiple times in 2013 that she was a virgin at that time. It's totally plausible that she a) wasn't sexually abused as a child as I haven't seen her really insinuate it anywhere and b) was raped at some point after 2013 and before 2018 and that Nina was created during the rape. When Chloe and Nina integrated, Chloe would have inherited Nina's memories of the rape and could very well talk about it as if she had be conscious during the act.
- This may be borderline distasteful, but if she really did hang herself in a forest, then where is the resulting scarring on her neck? Either it didn't happen like that or she did it very carefully because she didn't want to die and instead wanted the attention of it. My theory if she did do it is that she hung herself when the police were nearby, especially since you only have up to 15 minutes to be alive once you hang yourself. I dated someone who had hung himself from his bedroom window and the scarring is still there all these years later. He wasn't doing it for attention.
So she was spanked as a child, up until age 7. I'm positive she doesn't consider this as child abuse leading to her DID as she would have surely mentioned it before, but it does point towards her family not being as wonderful as she presents them to be.
Also maybe her family wasn't as affluent when she was growing up as everyone claims they were. She says an iPhone was too expensive. This was in 2013 before her birthday, so the most recent model was the 5 which was released September 2012 and cost $200 USD. The iPhone 4s was released October 11 and cost as low as $100 USD. So idk if Chloe was just ignorant to the value of money and the cost of an iPhone or if her parents really couldn't spare the extra money to buy her an iPhone versus the Android she had (idk which Android she had, wasn't stated, but it was stated that she did have an Android).
- As mentioned before, I'd be really interested in knowing if her alters ever interfered in her diaries.
Also idk how many of y'all have been hospitalized, but she said her diagnoses came from a hospitalization. The psychiatrist would have spent about 5 hours max with her if she was there for 9 days, so somehow her diagnoses are valid but Chloe's isn't despite them having spent close to the same amount of time with their diagnosing doctors?
Exactly. I think ultimately our goal is to try and expose the real harm that is being done. I have nothing but empathy for those who are wrapped up in this. I genuinely have no doubt that there are real systems out there who are being affected by this as onlookers. I have already been a bit more cynical towards the disorder than I used to be before really looking into this, and I deal with real, genuine cases. I hate that it makes me doubt my own work. 'Advocates' like Chloe and Nan are only furthering the stigma of DID and other dissociative disorders.This is legit. And I think it bears repeating, we're not interested in harm coming to these people. Quite the opposite. I myself am deeply concerned that this sham is keeping people from getting the help and treatment they need. Receipts/Sleep is obviously struggling and it's not fair that this whole thing is taking her energy away from caring for herself. It's really sad how twisted this is.
Bro, this isn't exactly a professional study, it's more an investigation. We're gathering evidence about what these two systems (and others) have done. We already know they're either deluded or fakers (or both), we don't need to prove that. Your original essay wasn't chock full of scientific papers either. Half of it was regurgitating shit we already know and the other parts were about a show that really didn't need to be discussed and touting your academia at us.Not a single post I came across on this thread pointed to anything but blogs, her own stories (which ingratiates her delusions of grandeur may I add), and absolutely nothing scientifically established or arrived at.
What? Standard following an attempt is 48 to 72 hours at least. I mean, in the UK it could be different, but I'm literally 100% positive if she said 'I hear voices' she'd be under suspicion for psychosis, which is far more likely than DID. I've never known DID to be diagnosed in an emergency stabilization setting. It can take months for a therapist to have ruled out all other possibilities, and I promise you there are many. That's how I've known emergency psychiatric care to work, but I could be wrong.Chloe was only hospitalised for 24 hours.
I've done enough research to know that DID doesn't work like this:Wow y’all really haven’t done your research on DID and how alters and systems work?
Also idk how many of y'all have been hospitalized, but she said her diagnoses came from a hospitalization. The psychiatrist would have spent about 5 hours max with her if she was there for 9 days, so somehow her diagnoses are valid but Chloe's isn't despite them having spent close to the same amount of time with their diagnosing doctors?
What? Standard following an attempt is 48 to 72 hours at least. I mean, in the UK it could be different, but I'm literally 100% positive if she said 'I hear voices' she'd be under suspicion for psychosis, which is far more likely than DID. I've never known DID to be diagnosed in an emergency stabilization setting. It can take months for a therapist to have ruled out all other possibilities, and I promise you there are many. That's how I've known emergency psychiatric care to work, but I could be wrong.