Snowflake Chloe Wilkinson / DissociaDID and Nanette Zuniga / Nan / TeamPinata


Seems like she changes her approach depending on who she's talking to. In one tweet she says that alters are their own individuals and should be treated as such, in another she says she doesn't "flesh out" her alters and is just trying to improve communication to move towards full integration

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Hold up. I recognize the 'Sleepy System' as one of the only people that replies to Receipts Y'all's Twitter. I've mentioned them a couple of times as one of the most ridiculous stans I've seen. She shows up everywhere crusading for Chloe, outing accounts the criticize Nin when they change their name, making videos, accusing Chloe-hating Cyberbullies of stealing her credit card.

Based on the e-begging going on here, I think Sleepy, decapilate, and Receipts Y'all are all the same person.
Bingo. This is the direct link I was searching for! You are a bonafide internet Sherlock Homes.

The $1500 in fraudulent charges thing has just solidified this. Damn.
 
Wow y’all really haven’t done your research on DID and how alters and systems work?
Yes. I have done my research. This is literally my field of study. Working towards a doctorate.

You have been led to believe that what you are looking at is an accurate depiction of this disorder when it’s not. Basics are there, but anyone can pull up a few web pages and manufacture that within a day. What’s missing are the true subtler signs. You are being manipulated by someone who doesn’t actually care about you beyond what attention or money you give her. You don’t deserve to be lied to like this, to be strung along in her fantasy game.
 
Yes. I have done my research. This is literally my field of study. Working towards a doctorate.

You have been led to believe that what you are looking at is an accurate depiction of this disorder when it’s not. Basics are there, but anyone can pull up a few web pages and manufacture that within a day. What’s missing are the true subtler signs. You are being manipulated by someone who doesn’t actually care about you beyond what attention or money you give her. You don’t deserve to be lied to like this, to be strung along in her fantasy game.

This is legit. And I think it bears repeating, we're not interested in harm coming to these people. Quite the opposite. I myself am deeply concerned that this sham is keeping people from getting the help and treatment they need. Receipts/Sleep is obviously struggling and it's not fair that this whole thing is taking her energy away from caring for herself. It's really sad how twisted this is.
 
Yes. I have done my research. This is literally my field of study. Working towards a doctorate.

You have been led to believe that what you are looking at is an accurate depiction of this disorder when it’s not. Basics are there, but anyone can pull up a few web pages and manufacture that within a day. What’s missing are the true subtler signs. You are being manipulated by someone who doesn’t actually care about you beyond what attention or money you give her. You don’t deserve to be lied to like this, to be strung along in her fantasy game.
And thank you and all the others who have dabbled or in the psych field currently that has posted. Y’all the real mvps educating us humble uninformed folk. :semperfidelis:

But, you know, like, your credentials don’t count against someone like Chloe because she actually has the disorder and so obviously that makes her more qualified and knowledgeable. Duh!

Also, I’ve noticed we slowly started adding system or alter names to our custom title and I’m really amused. I love you bastards. :heart-full:

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They’re onto us, boys.

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Since they keep poking their heads in here, is it okay if I give some examples of the people we're dealing with?

LARPing Nan's alters
Definitely not a creepy song choice.
Actual mother, friend of Chloe, influential figure in the DID community.
Bonus for that last one: Recently came out as being into DDLG, (tagged fragmentedpsyche) but is adamant you don't call it that because it's totally not sexual.
Thank you, Dissociadid to introducing so many people to DID.
The next DissociaDID.
The sort of "SWITCHES CAUGHT ON CAMERA!" we can expect from the next DissociaDID

There are so, so, so many more. Tried not to link any with children. Kids make up the bulk of the "Thank you DissociaDID! You made us realize we have DID!" TikToks. It's horrifying. And these are the people saying that Trisha Paytas is damaging the stigma surrounding DID.
 
Seems like she changes her approach depending on who she's talking to. In one tweet she says that alters are their own individuals and should be treated as such, in another she says she doesn't "flesh out" her alters and is just trying to improve communication to move towards full integration

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I don't flesh out my alters! Anyway, look at this self portrait of Dark, a shadow man whose fragmented pieces look like shattered glass. That represents his shattered soul and reminds me of Glass the fairy who lives in the forest in my inner world. She has wings made of broken glass. When the sunlight catches her wings iridescent light shines onto the surface of the river where Murmer the mermaid lives! If you follow that river you'll come to the cave where Jade lives and cooks soup and rustic bread in a cauldron over a log fire whilst wearing a magical necklace that her Mother, Margaret the NPC, gave her when she was eleven years old.
We've tried to invite Jade to live in the mansion with the rest of us but she won't. Sometimes she spends time in the basement with Dr Heiter's experiments who are all bent over barrels or tables, uh oh! But don't worry there's a carousel down there so it isn't all doom and gloom.
But no, no, I don't flesh out my alters. Don't worry, this is healthy!

And in a recent video she claimed that the goal of therapy wasn't full integration? God, this girl tests me.
 
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Not a single post I came across on this thread pointed to anything but blogs, her own stories (which ingratiates her delusions of grandeur may I add), and absolutely nothing scientifically established or arrived at.

There was not one academic or scholastic post I came across, the closes thing to resembling that was an opinion piece in "Psychology Today,"

There are several screenshots and links to academic papers, and an analysis of research by an actual psychiatrist here. Skimming isn't reading. There's also several long form posts discussing the brain from people with education in various areas from brain physics to neuroscience to psychology.

Chloe's first video was convincing, but it was when I clicked on her page that I quickly saw she was full of hot dog shit. So how do you debunk someone without being an actual trained clinician, well consult the one thing I do have the ability to access, an academic database full of scholarly research on the topic. So first I will quote and actually link to the Diagnostic & Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders V, while I won't share my electronic source because it links to my institutions library, this source outlines what the DSM covers well, for all dissociative disorders. For those of you who don't want to read the link, you can find that patients with DID show that, "The identities happen involuntarily and are unwanted and cause distress. People with dissociative identity disorder may feel that they have suddenly become observers of their own speech and actions, or their bodies may feel different... they are all manifestations of a single, whole person." Which means each manifestation of an alternate personality ot presence is distinct and occurs for reasons linked to trauma. Side bar, for anyone who watches Mr. Robot, the main character created his first personality when he was sexually abused by his father repeatedly as a child, his alter is named Mr. Robot, which also happens to be his father's store's name from childhood, Mr. Robot appeared like the main characters father (you do not know this at first) but was there to protect the character and would take control without the host knowing. There were periods of time in the show you were left with figuring things out because time was unaccounted for where an alter took control, things got so bad the main character even forgot who his sister was and it took a whole season to figure it out. I really suggest the story as from what I have read, it is a great depiction of what the disorder actually manifests itself as. That being said, alters are created for reasons that the host does not know about, that the host cannot comprehend or simply does not have the capacity to understand. Integration is not the formal outcome desired in therapy, really learning to live with the disorder and avoiding triggers while trying to figure out the extent of the trauma underlying it all is, this can sometimes lead to integration, it can also lead to the alter created to protect from the abuse communicating as they deem fit the trauma as it happened for the host to process. The host may never fully integrate as it may just be too much to allow their mind to live in a reality that they just couldn't cope with. This is typically something that happens when a child is repeatedly and methodically molested by someone they love or someone that should care for them, it can also happen if exposed to serious traumatic stressors at an age that the brain cannot cope with stress of this nature. I keep going back to Mr. Robot, but it serves as a good example given my lack of real world examples, molested his whole life by a father, beaten and blamed for his father's abuse by his mother, loved but abandoned by his sister who fled the abuse when she had the chance leaving him behind. That is the typology for this type of disorder, and even then, it is one of a plethora of comorbid factors that could manifest. DID occurs in less than 1% of psychiatric patients, and is typically accompanied by anxiety and mood disorders as well as behavioral disorders. These people do not crave attention, because it is the attention that sets them off in the first place. They withdraw, they fantasize about a life they do not live, they dissociate, they do not crave fame or attention like these charlatans do. The DSM dedicates relatively little to the disorder because, and I am being frank here, it occurs so rarely that modern psychology and psychiatry have not collected enough data to make inferences on it.

First of all, "we academics"?

Did your stellar educators not teach you how to structure and organize your writing? Second graders learn to break their paragraphs up better than this nonsense. Jesus

What is sad is that I am an actual published author in scholastic journals

Bro, you're not the only one, but we're not here to act like pretentious bags of dicks

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Here's a suggestion for you, Sir Academic, Lord of the Intellects: go through life assuming everyone around you has just as much knowledge and education as you do. It'll help deflate your ego.

There are so, so, so many more. Tried not to link any with children. Kids make up the bulk of the "Thank you DissociaDID! You made us realize we have DID!" TikToks. It's horrifying. And these are the people saying that Trisha Paytas is damaging the stigma surrounding DID.

This is really sad and damaging. I hope they see professionals who can let them know they don't have it. :/

And in a recent video she claimed that the goal of therapy wasn't full integration? God, this girl tests me.

You, too, can monetize a difficult-to-diagnose disorder by faking it! Don't integrate! Keep the content flowing!!

Both Chloe and Nan have been making tweets and instagram stories that seem to address things that are being said here so its almost a certainty that they know at this point.

But notice how Trisha's single offhand comment traumatized Chloe enough to make her split into a new alter, yet we say way worse and she's absolutely fine.

I have thought Chloe was lurking here for a while, since at least she started deleting videos. She strikes me a the kind of person who googles herself, and this is one of the first results.
 
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Did your stellar educators not teach you how to structure and organize your writing? Second graders learn to break their paragraphs up better than this nonsense. Jesus

I'll gladly read one of their papers. If this user really works in a research department, their arrogance probably leaves them unpopular with their colleagues, rather unfortunate in such a collaborative line of work.

Off topic rant about academic writing below

Supervisors actually encourage you to write like this. Heaven forbid you throw out the pontification and circumlocutory scrawl to actually make concrete points.

There was in-fact a computer algorithm programmed by MIT students to auto-generate a bunch of fake academic papers and submit them to journals. The papers were intentionally constructed to be hard to parse, brimming with jargon and repetitious, sprawling paragraphs. Embarrassingly, a lot of journals actually published the fake articles before the students retracted them.

Science should be about quality of communication, conciseness and research should be presented in a way that is easy to understand, yet I clearly recall my personal tutors and supervisors revising my work so that all my points were bunched up into one long rambling paragraph until the next sub-headding.

There is starting to be some backlash against this tradition and things are gradually improving. This is the reason why the most reputable and sought-after journals are Nature and Science. They impose strict word count limits to subsections of articles and reject papers with impenetrable technical jargon or text walls.

TL;DR - user writes poorly, bad outdated representation of scientific etiquette.
 
Okay I've read everything posted here and all the links (not all the videos TBH). Here's my contribution. I'm very skeptical at this point and haven't seen enough proof either way to be convinced fully on either side. Regarding Nan, her actions and videos are proof enough that she doesn't have DID but rather most likely severe BPD. I doubt she has HPD. She's also too insufferable for me to watch her videos, I only did because I was curious about Jeremy's accent and god. Never again.

Anyway, I have some info to add. I went through her ask.fm FULLY, read every single reply so you're welcome. I've come here with the interesting replies.

Regarding timeline info, I don't recall seeing her relationship with John on there. I'm assuming they started dating on 24 March 2012 based on the following reply, and they broke up at some point in early 2014 (there are no dates on the replies on ask.fm on mobile, but it was some point after she said happy 2014). Also her Ask.fm replies I have here date from 2013 to 2014.

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Also y'all seem to have missed her first suicide attempt. It was detailed in her Toi magazine article. It was when she was still in college and she said that was the first time she was co-con with Kyle, so first time she was aware of his existence. I don't know what year this was, just that she was in college. She said she down two packs of paracetamol and Kyle took over and made her eat and brought her to the front office where she was then given control and asked for help. So she's attempted 5 times, once in college and 4 times in uni (all within the same month which idk how to feel about that).

Here are her ask.fm replies organized by subject.

Some of her friends at the time. There is also a Morgan Trowbridge who often sent her messages and she was friendly with him, knew him IRL. I have his FB page if desired, but it's fairly easy to find.
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Another friend. I haven't watched her video she made with an IRL childhood friend so IDK if it's the same person.
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Her at the time boyfriend had an ask.fm, it might be interesting to find it to get more info on her as a teen, but I didn't notice him sending her any questions. She talked about him in about 1/3 of all replies.
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So this Theo guy is interesting. Idk if she knew him IRL and he doesn't have any links on his Ask.fm profile. He sent her messages A LOT, half anonymous and half from his account. Chloe was very hot and cold with him. Sometimes she would be vaguely nice, other times she would be dismissive and then the rest of the time she was rude. She would tell him to stop a lot even though he never sent anything crossing any line, mostly defending her and flirting in a way. I didn't notice him sending anything mean or rude. He would often say things like "you can trust me" or whatever when she would say how she didn't trust anyone, would defend her when she got anon hate, and she would just be really cold with him. I'd be interested to know what was going on with that.
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She kept a diary during this time and likely before as well. I'd be interested in knowing if she kept any of them and if she noticed anything relating to alters in it. I'd be shocked if they're so good at using a diary collectively now but were never interested in it before she became self-aware.
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Just a collection of ironic replies, nothing serious.

I'm willing to bet the mental illness she already had at this point was just depression as she stated in her Toi magazine article.
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Hmmm.......
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Yeah wouldn't it be horrible to not recognize who you see in the mirror?
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John was her boyfriend at the time, no idea who Maddie is as I believe this is the only mention of her, and her saying she'd want to only see her dad for the rest of her life sure doesn't point towards organized childhood abuse with a disorganized parental attachment.
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So she was spanked as a child, up until age 7. I'm positive she doesn't consider this as child abuse leading to her DID as she would have surely mentioned it before, but it does point towards her family not being as wonderful as she presents them to be.
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Also maybe her family wasn't as affluent when she was growing up as everyone claims they were. She says an iPhone was too expensive. This was in 2013 before her birthday, so the most recent model was the 5 which was released September 2012 and cost $200 USD. The iPhone 4s was released October 11 and cost as low as $100 USD. So idk if Chloe was just ignorant to the value of money and the cost of an iPhone or if her parents really couldn't spare the extra money to buy her an iPhone versus the Android she had (idk which Android she had, wasn't stated, but it was stated that she did have an Android).
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Okay, so her past was great!! Phew, no need to worry anymore.
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Hmm, maybe not. She never said who she was scared of or why, but this is one of the few replies that uses final punctuation, so she was serious y'all. I'm sure I would have said this at her age too just to be dramatic, though.
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Okay, well now we're getting somewhere. This is from her Toi magazine article. Just more vague hints at possible past trauma tied to where she was living (not specifically her house, possibly).
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She could just be being cheeky. Her and her friends said all the time that she thought a lot about everything.
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No context because there wasn't any. I don't know who sent this or why.
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Wait, I thought Kyle was the one who liked Bastille. Also, did she send this to herself?? lol
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Okay this is the most convincing. She hadn't started claiming DID at this point in 2013.
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Also here are my general pros and cons in and against her favor.

Pros:
  • Firstly this is just against y'all. Y'all take everyone at their word about how Chloe's making them suicidal when they could EASILY be lying and trolling, yet you scrutinize everything Chloe and her defenders say. Seems kind of gullible to me.
  • Regarding her sexual trauma timeline since some of y'all seem confused: Her ask.fm had her stating multiple times in 2013 that she was a virgin at that time. It's totally plausible that she a) wasn't sexually abused as a child as I haven't seen her really insinuate it anywhere and b) was raped at some point after 2013 and before 2018 and that Nina was created during the rape. When Chloe and Nina integrated, Chloe would have inherited Nina's memories of the rape and could very well talk about it as if she had be conscious during the act.
  • Also y'all are purposely misconstruing some of her words. Whens he spoke about causes of trauma and said being born can be traumatic to a baby, it's true, but I think she didn't do research enough into this and wasn't clear enough by having not said that this obviously wouldn't lead to lasting PTSD. Traumatic births can cause a newborn to cry a lot or have trouble feeding, things like that. It obviously doesn't last since their brains aren't developed enough.
  • Regarding her TikTok featuring Nina about how she wasn't needed anymore, I honestly believe she was meant to be acting. Like more so than what she would be if she's faking having DID. She obviously didn't call upon Nina to switch just to make a TikTok, not to mention that she had already integrated at that point. It wasn't meant to be taken literally.

Cons:
  • Something really subtle, but Chloe when she sneezes on camera says "bless me." Well wouldn't you know it, Sally does too! Sally said it in her meet the alters video and I think Chloe said it recently, but idk which video. I could comb through them if y'all insist on the proof.
  • This may be borderline distasteful, but if she really did hang herself in a forest, then where is the resulting scarring on her neck? Either it didn't happen like that or she did it very carefully because she didn't want to die and instead wanted the attention of it. My theory if she did do it is that she hung herself when the police were nearby, especially since you only have up to 15 minutes to be alive once you hang yourself. I dated someone who had hung himself from his bedroom window and the scarring is still there all these years later. He wasn't doing it for attention.
  • As mentioned before, I'd be really interested in knowing if her alters ever interfered in her diaries.
  • Why are there no anecdotes on how DID affected her childhood or teenage years? You're telling me that she had all these social media accounts as a teenager and all her alters behaved themselves and stayed off of them? Everyone behaved themselves so Chloe could have her own accounts and none of them decided to make their own accounts?

And a last input regarding Tatiana. I don't feel sorry for her one bit. Mental illness doesn't excuse her actions and she's being way more manipulative than Chloe or Nan if you actually watch her videos. Y'all say "poor girl, she's burning herself on camera," do you not realize how fucking manipulative that is?? She could easily delete the Tatiana channel and/or disable comments, but she's thriving from the attention. She was getting like 40 views per video on her main page before all this, now she has more than a million subscribers. Also she did in fact claim to have DID (well, "multiple personality disorder"). She says her "personality disorder not otherwise specified" diagnosis means she has MPD when in reality she just has alter egos that she willingly and forcibly switches into and she still controls her actions. She's just doing it to excuse herself from responsibility.
Also idk how many of y'all have been hospitalized, but she said her diagnoses came from a hospitalization. The psychiatrist would have spent about 5 hours max with her if she was there for 9 days, so somehow her diagnoses are valid but Chloe's isn't despite them having spent close to the same amount of time with their diagnosing doctors?
 
This is my first post here and after lurking for a while I decided to finally make a post and ask for an opinion from you all on a video I'd like to make on all of this tomfoolery. I know Grandads Lounge had some good intentions wanting to shed light on this matter but can't help agree it came off terribly spergy and couldn't take it all seriously. I'd really like to make a different video (or perhaps a couple since there's just so much nonsense to wade through) and need some input. Would anyone be willing to help? Is it even worth it? I have no following so I'm not afraid to be unpopular lmao. Its just slowly starting to eat at me that this girl has so many people fooled and allows absolutely zero questions to be asked regarding the matter.


Edit: you've all done such a great job with links, receipts and summaries that it would be such a shame not to put this collective academic effort to use and finally give those with doubts themselves a space to express them on YouTube. If Chloe is allowed to criticize others then surely we may do the same.
 
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Doesn't even matter how scientific that Sam guy really was, there is no way you could observe anyone's behavior through YouTube videos and draw any meaningful conclusions from that alone. It's basically reality TV. Videos are scripted, and everything from what is being shot, to how it is being shot, to how everything is being edited together is further manipulation. There is a time and place for empiric methods, but debunking mental illness fakers on the internet is not one of those. It's not like you need to consult research papers to realize something is fishy, anyways. All you really need is enough common sense to realize that Cloe's disorder is way too convenient to be real and that her story is inconsistent.
 
. Y'all say "poor girl, she's burning herself on camera," do you not realize how fucking manipulative that is?? She could easily delete the Tatiana channel and/or disable comments, but she's thriving from the attention.

She explained quite clearly during her meltdown that she does indeed benefit from the attention, only so much as she needs to keep the videos up so that she has money for living expenses and so that she doesn't have to rely on her manipulative partner.

Her spiralling out of control and posting 3 videos in the span of 2 hours, burning herself, pulling her hair and screaming is what mental illness looks like. It's not what someone 'thriving from attention' looks like. It requires a certain amount of mental stability to turn off the computer and walk away, which Tatiana is clearly lacking. She's not doing the "right thing" but she's also not trying to manipulate people, she's having an episode. Apparently this is missed by comments such as these that fail to understand the turmoil associated with mental health conditions.

PS: Can we drop the "y'all"-ing?
 
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Okay I've read everything posted here and all the links

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Also y'all seem to have missed her first suicide attempt. It was detailed in her Toi magazine article. It was when she was still in college and she said that was the first time she was co-con with Kyle, so first time she was aware of his existence.

You clearly didn't read the thread, then. We didn't miss that. It's in her full timeline.

  • Regarding her sexual trauma timeline since some of y'all seem confused: Her ask.fm had her stating multiple times in 2013 that she was a virgin at that time. It's totally plausible that she a) wasn't sexually abused as a child as I haven't seen her really insinuate it anywhere and b) was raped at some point after 2013 and before 2018 and that Nina was created during the rape. When Chloe and Nina integrated, Chloe would have inherited Nina's memories of the rape and could very well talk about it as if she had be conscious during the act.

She alludes to sexual abuse frequently. Read the thread again.

  • This may be borderline distasteful, but if she really did hang herself in a forest, then where is the resulting scarring on her neck? Either it didn't happen like that or she did it very carefully because she didn't want to die and instead wanted the attention of it. My theory if she did do it is that she hung herself when the police were nearby, especially since you only have up to 15 minutes to be alive once you hang yourself. I dated someone who had hung himself from his bedroom window and the scarring is still there all these years later. He wasn't doing it for attention.

She didn't hang herself. She draws Omega with scarring around her neck and she says ropes and forests are trigger as a result of that suicide attempt. A verified fellow student came and reported that she actually jumped in the lake and then joked about it the next day. It wasn't a serious suicide attempt resulting in trauma and it didn't involve hanging. This information is all in this thread you claim to have carefully read before posting.

So she was spanked as a child, up until age 7. I'm positive she doesn't consider this as child abuse leading to her DID as she would have surely mentioned it before, but it does point towards her family not being as wonderful as she presents them to be.

The majority of children were spanked growing up. It isn't unusual and it isn't necessarily indicative of abusive parents. Combined with everything else we know of Chloe then I still don't see spanking as an indicator of abusive parents.

Also maybe her family wasn't as affluent when she was growing up as everyone claims they were. She says an iPhone was too expensive. This was in 2013 before her birthday, so the most recent model was the 5 which was released September 2012 and cost $200 USD. The iPhone 4s was released October 11 and cost as low as $100 USD. So idk if Chloe was just ignorant to the value of money and the cost of an iPhone or if her parents really couldn't spare the extra money to buy her an iPhone versus the Android she had (idk which Android she had, wasn't stated, but it was stated that she did have an Android).

Not being able to afford an iPhone by herself does not mean she was living in poverty.

  • As mentioned before, I'd be really interested in knowing if her alters ever interfered in her diaries.

She claims that her alters communicate through her diaries. As stated in this thread.

Also idk how many of y'all have been hospitalized, but she said her diagnoses came from a hospitalization. The psychiatrist would have spent about 5 hours max with her if she was there for 9 days, so somehow her diagnoses are valid but Chloe's isn't despite them having spent close to the same amount of time with their diagnosing doctors?

Chloe was only hospitalised for 24 hours following the suicide attempt where she discovered Kyle and met briefly with a crisis team. As mentioned in this thread. Chloe paid for her diagnosis from a man not qualified to offer a diagnosis. As covered in this thread.

I don't feel particularly sorry for the girl behind Tatiana either as she's just screaming into the void for attention but her behaviour, like burning herself on camera, is pretty telling of a mental illness. Whereas Chloe's behaviour is more indicative of attention seeking without any real follow through. Chloe claims to have been burned too though in pictures of her in bikinis there are absolutely no signs of scarring. She's an attention seeker. And you're caping for her.

Some interesting Asks, though.
 
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This is legit. And I think it bears repeating, we're not interested in harm coming to these people. Quite the opposite. I myself am deeply concerned that this sham is keeping people from getting the help and treatment they need. Receipts/Sleep is obviously struggling and it's not fair that this whole thing is taking her energy away from caring for herself. It's really sad how twisted this is.
Exactly. I think ultimately our goal is to try and expose the real harm that is being done. I have nothing but empathy for those who are wrapped up in this. I genuinely have no doubt that there are real systems out there who are being affected by this as onlookers. I have already been a bit more cynical towards the disorder than I used to be before really looking into this, and I deal with real, genuine cases. I hate that it makes me doubt my own work. 'Advocates' like Chloe and Nan are only furthering the stigma of DID and other dissociative disorders.

Not a single post I came across on this thread pointed to anything but blogs, her own stories (which ingratiates her delusions of grandeur may I add), and absolutely nothing scientifically established or arrived at.
Bro, this isn't exactly a professional study, it's more an investigation. We're gathering evidence about what these two systems (and others) have done. We already know they're either deluded or fakers (or both), we don't need to prove that. Your original essay wasn't chock full of scientific papers either. Half of it was regurgitating shit we already know and the other parts were about a show that really didn't need to be discussed and touting your academia at us.
If you are so well versed in personality disorders, you'd already know that there is no such thing as a dissociative personality disorder. Did you mean personality disorders with dissociation as a symptom? Because yes, that exists, but no dissociative personality disorder. DID is not a personality disorder nor is it actually the label for multiple personalities though some older and outdated papers may refer to it as such. The term alter refers to alternate states of personality, but all alters are parts of one personality. These parts have developed as the result of severe identity dissonance from long term, severe dissociation. That is also why they can be reintegrated back into one full personality.
I highly suspect that you are a narcissist, and I'll go through the criteria for NPD with you to show you why I think so scientifically. Your posts have been mostly around asserting your inflated ego of self importance and mightier than though (Criteria 1: Grandiose sense of self importance). You waxed poetic about your education and how you as an 'academic' were placed above us, showing a sense of 'specialness' (Criteria 3: Belief one is 'special'). However, at the slightest graze against your fragile ego, you've flown into a rage. You've told us to kill ourselves, to get shot up, wished ill on our families. Did you think to how that would make us feel? No, because you don't see how that would make us feel (Criteria 7: Lack of empathy). Furthermore, your rage is evidence of your expectation of praise (Criteria 4: Requires admiration), that we should automatically see you as worthy and righteous (Criteria 5: Entitlement). You then proceeded to talk about going back to your beautiful anime body pillow- sorry, I mean wife, again talking about how much better you are than all of us. It's arrogant of you to assume some of us aren't successful, well educated, have beautiful spouses or whatever just because we use this forum (Criteria 9: Arrogance).
Next, you show impairments in personality function. The first one is self functioning criteria A: identity. It's defined as "Excessive reference to others for self-definition and self-esteem regulation, exaggerated self-appraisal may be inflated or deflated, or vacillate between extremes, emotional regulation mirrors fluctuations in self-esteem". You came here for validation of yourself as an academic. You went from calm, mature to calling us 'nincompoops' and more when we did not give you that self esteem boost. In fact, we probably damaged it a little bit.
The second impairment is interpersonal functioning criteria A: Empathy. It's definition is "Impaired ability to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others; excessively attuned to reactions of others, but only if perceived as relevant to self; over- or underestimate of own effect on others". Again, as I pointed out, your inability to see how we'd feel following your extreme wishes of violence. You only expressed empathy towards those we're calling out because you wanted to prove your idea that we're a bunch of assholes. If you really thought this thread was so damaging, why would you even comment in the first place and add to it?
The next is pathological personality trait antagonism. Antagonism includes two parts, grandiosity and attention seeking, both of which I've already highlighted in your behaviors.
Obviously, I can't diagnose you with NPD, mostly because I'm not actually qualified to do so (yet). Furthermore, I have not met you in person, don't know about your socio-cultural situation, and also don't know if you're on drugs, or suffer from another medical disorder that could otherwise explain your behavior. Those are all criteria that have to be sorted out for a proper diagnosis. I also don't know if this behavior is consistent across situations, but it has been consistent here and I'm sure if I wanted to I could look at your reddit. I just don't want to actually waste my time on it, lol.

Also this is more just to write how you want us to. If it's annoying, good!
 
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Chloe was only hospitalised for 24 hours.
What? Standard following an attempt is 48 to 72 hours at least. I mean, in the UK it could be different, but I'm literally 100% positive if she said 'I hear voices' she'd be under suspicion for psychosis, which is far more likely than DID. I've never known DID to be diagnosed in an emergency stabilization setting. It can take months for a therapist to have ruled out all other possibilities, and I promise you there are many. That's how I've known emergency psychiatric care to work, but I could be wrong.
 
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Oh, well that explains it. Dissociation and an unstable sense of identity are two of the primary symptoms of BPD. The latter makes them prone to believing in two-bit charlatans and memetic Tumblr identities — they aren't really sure who they are so they'll latch onto anything that offers them an explanation and acceptance.
Wow y’all really haven’t done your research on DID and how alters and systems work?
I've done enough research to know that DID doesn't work like this:
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DID is not a disorder where people spend 90% of their time being themselves and 10% of their time LARPing as one of their 24 headmates. Talk to any reputable doctor and they'll tell you the same thing.

You should do some research and get some treatment for the issues that you actually have. I have no doubt that you're disturbed, confused, and in pain but DID is not the explanation for your problems.
 
Also idk how many of y'all have been hospitalized, but she said her diagnoses came from a hospitalization. The psychiatrist would have spent about 5 hours max with her if she was there for 9 days, so somehow her diagnoses are valid but Chloe's isn't despite them having spent close to the same amount of time with their diagnosing doctors?

She wasn't diagnosed at a hospital, let alone by a psychiatrist. She was "diagnosed" by a private therapy practice called the Pottergate Centre.

I have been hospitalized and I was diagnosed with bipolar disorder within a week, and they used the rest of my time there to monitor my behavior and blood toxicity, and adjust lithium dosage accordingly.

What? Standard following an attempt is 48 to 72 hours at least. I mean, in the UK it could be different, but I'm literally 100% positive if she said 'I hear voices' she'd be under suspicion for psychosis, which is far more likely than DID. I've never known DID to be diagnosed in an emergency stabilization setting. It can take months for a therapist to have ruled out all other possibilities, and I promise you there are many. That's how I've known emergency psychiatric care to work, but I could be wrong.

Typically, even in the US, they only hold you for longer than 24h if the psychiatric/crisis team deems you to be a danger to yourself or others. As I said earlier in this thread, my sister was not held after drinking gasoline because the psychiatrist found her to be exhibiting attention-seeking behavior, and referred her to therapy, not psychiatric care.
 
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