Manosphere Amud - The Balloon Loon, Loveshy Extraordinaire

[Tricksy Fuckin Hobbitses]

The issues I focus on are much more important than the issues most people focus on (sports)

My life is a lie.

 

[DuskEngine]

The issues I focus on are much more important than the issues most people focus on (TV, sports, celebrities).

What's your take on the Yemen crisis, bro? Do you support the Saudi-led coalition or do you think they're just going to destabilize it further? How much support do you really think Iran is lending the Houthis?

What about the economy? Did you read that MIT grad student's critique of Piketty where he pointed out that most of the rising inequality in the rich world is caused by housing prices, or is economics not your thing?

 

[Ca Ira]

I already know what he will say. Knowing nothing about human brain chemistry nor the link between modern human skull shapes and personality and/or intelligence, he will make a series of claims without backing a single word of it up with facts. "Listen to what I say, because I have the authority to make baseless claims without evidence."

Basically he'll just dodge the question and make shit up. Thats @Amud for you.

Quite probably. I'm curious to understand his ideology a little better, though.

 

[Dr. Boe Jangles Esq.]

@Amud, I'm curious as to why you and other Loveshy/Sluthate guys seem to take umbrage with us. Let me explain:
You, like many other LS guys, seem to buy into the old "alpha male" stereotype as the ideal male. Strength, masculine appearance, aggressive tendencies, these are all things you seem to hold in high esteem. You also assert that the greatest men in society have these traits. You have then come onto a forum where a bunch of guys (and girls) mocked you, belittled you, and asserted dominance over you, both intellectually and otherwise. Many of us are in relationships and none of us are Loveshies. So why the disdain? We have a much easier time romantically than you. By your own assertions, this would mean we are the superior individuals, the alphas laughing at the weak, ineffective betas. So why the disrespect? If anything, you should listen to us, as your superiors.
Or, perhaps, you realize that for all of your skull analysis bullshit, the only thing holding you back is your own failings?
I'm legitimately curious. Every Loveshy or Sluthater who comes here gets absolutely humiliated, so if this is the natural way of things, why are you upset?

 

[Stratomsk]

I'm creative. I'm observant. I notice patterns and assign names to them. I've been theorizing about this stuff for a good two years now. I talk to various people and we bounce ideas off of each other, which helps come up with even more theory. For instance, the term "Potatid" was created by a friend of mine.

"I came up with more theory by talking about it with friends, not doing actual research!"

Incredibly stupid post that fails to address arguments.

Also, I'm surprised nobody pointed this out earlier.

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Nice consistency there, Amud.

Also a hypocrite.

Tex Arcane once estimated that Neanderthals lived for hundreds of years.

Believes that Neanderthals lived for hundreds of years simply because he accepts Tex Arcanes statement as fact.

I have an exceptionally powerful, robust Neanderthal-Nobilid immune system and don't need to worry about sterilization. The idea of "sterilization" didn't even exist for 99.9999% of human history and they were totally fine.

I don't even need to explain this one.

Hell no. She is a Borreby, and quite Ignobilid. She is also one of the sort of people who I would have executed.

Wants to murder innocent woman simply for their physical appearance.

Yep. You're saying you don't want to see this elongated 2000cc reptilian skull rolling down the side of the guillotine? Are you crazy or something?

He wants to kill this guy as well.

I was referring to how much you have to spend at a college to get a scienmagistical paper (a degree) which then enables you to write more scienmagistical paperz ("official" journals)

More scienmagistikal bullshit.

It's okay, only about 0.01% of the population is 100% pure Nobilid. I have some Ignobilid influence myself. I'm probably about 50% Adenid, 25% Nobilid, 25% Thallid. On the flip side, we could say that only around half of the population is pure Ignobilid. I'd be surprised if you were in that half. Most of the members I've seen here do not seem like compete morons.

Generalizing the entire population to fit his completely stupid categories.

I think women should learn to appreciate me more. I've already done my part of the burden by contributing so much to our body of scientific knowledge.

muh 50k per year scienmagistical paperz

I'm all for helping to fix poverty and economic inequality. Why can't we have both?

You want to fix poverty and have economic inequality? Contradiction.

And here is a more exaggerated reference chart which may better help you visualize the basic trends:

Spends all his time in the oblivion character creator to convince people on the internet.

That's absolutely correct. The archaeology profession is fraught with corruption. Female archaeologists frequently sleep with their male professors and supervisors to get a higher position in the field. Everyone involved is incredibly biased. When they find artifacts which do not fit in with their preconceived ideas of evolution, they hide them away in the Indiana Jones warehouse.

No evidence and still no citation @Amud.

And if we're not descended from Neanderthals, then how does Pete Postlethwaite exist? Shouldn't he have been killed by Africans 30,000 years ago?

Calls a man a Neanderthal simply for the way he looks which would indicate that he is over 30,000 years old. Bullshit.

I didn't claim to be smart.

Checkmate, @Amud. You are a complete imbecile that has murderous tendencies, fallacious logic supported by pseudo-science, and outright refusal to address the work of other scientists with far more intelligence and experience in their respective fields than you will ever hope to achieve.

Stay classy.

EDIT: Added even more quotes I forgot.

 

[ChuckSlaughter]

Amud it's been pointed out by numerous people that many of your faces are merely fatty or old, lol the bankid is just wearing a suit jacket. I'd like to see him with a matching yamakah personally. I guess I'm not sure what I'm asking but don't you think that's pretty dumb?

 

[DuskEngine]

https://www.bankid.com/

IGNOBILID CONSPIRACY UNEARTHED WAKE UP SHEEPLE

 

[Ca Ira]

I'm a borreby girl, in a borreby world.

 

[Hi I Am From Page 6]

Why do you think everybody is obese and unhealthy

Because they eat large portions of high-calorie, low-nutrient food.

 

[FatNero]

The white power racism dripping off your bullshit is just astounding. I'm still blown away that you can't see it. I don't think you'd lie about hating other races, I just don't think you understand that you've adopted a clearly racist ideology. You might actually be practicing racism through stupidity... You're the person all the super left wing armchair activists warned us about.

 

[MarineTrainedTard]

Why do you have such hostility towards other scientists?

Because they actually question hypotheses all the time, and he knows his won't stand up to even the most basic scientific scrutiny.

Why do you think everybody is obese and unhealthy with retruded maxillas now?

RIP me 28 March 2015, cause of death: Laughed so hard I collapsed into a singularity.

 

[Stratomsk]

Because they actually question hypotheses all the time, and he knows his won't stand up to even the most basic scientific scrutiny.

2. The information I linked was created and posted by myself. It doesn't matter what site I post it on. The point is, I came up with it. Maybe you should decide whether it is legit or not based on your own reading of it, rather than the connotation of the website it is posted on. Also, the idea of "Scientifically valid sources" is completely meaningless. There is no reason to trust academic authorities any more than you trust me. They are not spiritually ordained loremasters of the world, they are just people like you and me who just so happened to buy a slip of paper giving them "credentials" for tens of thousands of dollars every year.

@Amud came up with his "facts". Makes perfect sense. This guy is seriously using his contempt for other scientists to elevate his argument by saying that scientifically valid sources are meaningless when the point is that when theories are tested by other scientists the purpose is to evaluate their functionality.

These are the Informal Fallacies I've seen him use so far off the top of my head:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance - Amud asserts that his proposition is true because it has not yet been proven false by other scientists or us regardless of how many times we have debunked his statements.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proof_by_assertion - Amud keeps stating his Hypothesis is "the truth" when we have proven his contradictions and lack of evidence time and time again.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faulty_generalization - Amud puts people in a box on a regular basis to justify his bullshit.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority - Amud acts like the authority on the subject matter when he is clearly not and refuses to budge or even acknowledge arguments some of the time because he must 'obviously' know more about this stuff. "Go to my thread where I talk about this in detail instead of debating facts."

 

[MarineTrainedTard]

For guys who seem to have such a huge boners for science, these Incel guys don't seem to know much about science. Cargo cultists, cargo cultists everywhere.

 

[Betard]

Jesus fuckin' christ these niggas, lmao.
I myself agree on the notion that the women of 1st world countries are turning into jelly-tier pussies but these guys make it seem as if their r/atheism arguments will make any difference as they smash onward on their keyboards.

Pathetic.

 

[Positron]

3. Hunting and gathering is superior because it leads to better nutrition (meat rather than grains), is more efficient (just find and kill an animal rather than having to raise it first), and requires people to keep stronger and mentally sharper than farming does.

Assignment: try hunting down a rabbit and try raising a plate of bean sprouts. Report to me in one week about the respective "efficiency". Show photographs.

4. Grains and dairy are inferior because we didn't evolve to consume them. Why do you think people report so much success with the paleo diet? Why do you think everybody is obese and unhealthy with retruded maxillas now?

• We didn't evolve to be carnivores either.
• Believe it or not, humans still keep evolving.
  
• You believe what is now called "paleo diet" is really what was consumed tens of thousands years ago?!
• I can get behind that modern diet is responsible for the obesity epidemic, and you can reasonably make a case that humans have not yet evolved to deal with a diet high in refined carbohydrates, saturated fat and calories. But.... what does retruded maxillae have to do with it?!

How is meat more nutritious than grains? Last I checked grains had fibers, B vitamins, and stuff like magnesium and selenium in them that meat lacks. Don't get me wrong, meat is the king of providing proteins and irons, but I'm curious how meat alone is healthier than say a balanced and mixed diet of substances.

Meat is all right for vit B; what is lacks completely is vit C. Carnivorous animals can synthesize vit C by themselves, but unfortunately primates (and that include your dear Neandies) have lost the gene somewhere down the road.

So basically, you're setting me up for failure. I don't think any OFFICIAL SCIENTISTS are going to be running OFFICIAL EXPERIMENTS based on my theories. It is literally impossible for that to happen at this time. Because you want me to be wrong, you are choosing to define "correct" science in a way that makes me "wrong" by definition.

You know what your problem is? Your statements are so arbitrary defined, so imprecise, so subjective, that it is impossible to assign a truth value to them. In other words, your facial profiling belong to the "not even wrong" category.

For guys who seem to have such a huge boners for science, these Incel guys don't seem to know much about science. Cargo cultists, cargo cultists everywhere.

They like things that they can twist to fit their obsessions, and that means pseudoscience like MBTI and neurolinguistic programming.

 

[Amud]

You're confusing cause and effect. It is precisely farming, which is a more reliable source of sustenance than hunting/gathering, that enabled population growth, instead of the other way round. The population of an organism is always adjusted to the resources available: you first have a bonanza of food which then trigger a population increase, not the other way round. In a hunter/gatherer society, a population explosion beyond sustainability will only result in starvation and death.


1) What do you mean by "dysgenic"?
2) It is meaningless to say whether the skills involved in hunting/gathering is superior or inferior to farming. Farming and animal husbandry simply require another set of skills (e.g. ability to foresee weather patterns and plan accordingly, to locate sources of irrigation, and to detect diseases in crops and lifestock)
3) I want to know in what ways you think grains, dairy and soy are inferior to... whatever the Neanderthals ate.


He's a virgin.

1. Dysgenic means that bad traits become more prevalent.
2. Fair enough, but we can still look at the fossil record and see the changes in facial and bodily structure corresponding with the advent of agriculture. We can see that brains become smaller, bodies become weaker, faces become more retruded. Prior to the Neolithic, Europeans had "ancient" phenotypes. During the neolithic, they "evolved" to have the standard Caucasian phenotype of today. The obvious conclusion is that the massive change in lifestyle brought about my farming caused these physical changes to occur.
3. Neanderthals mostly ate meat. Meat is the best food source there is. It contributes to the growth of lean muscle. Soy simply raises estrogen, turning you into a short, pudgy, round-faced, low-virility Potatid farmer. Dairy causes acne and obesity. Grains cause diabetes and obesity.

@Amud

Can you tell me something about what this classification system predicts, specifically, about people? Say, for instance , that you have a strongly ethnikid person around. How would you predict they would differ from you, an adenid/thallid/etc? What can you tell me about a strongly potatid individual, knowing nothing else about him?

An Ethnikid is probably going to be rather passionate and "saucy". An Adenid is going to be nerdy, depressive, and probably suffers from
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?164029-SUBHUMAN-SYNDROME. A Thallid is going to be obsessive, daydreaming, steadfast, and brilliant. A Potatid is probably going to be silly and a bit of a pushover.

I would also raise the question on how you classify the face types as a whole. Like what specific qualities about each face lends them to that type? I mean, if this is scientific, you should be able to consistently measure and observe the same qualities. Could you please show your measurements to determine each facial type rather than just images of them? Like is there a ratio involved between elements? Is there specific facial marks that determine it?

I'd also raise the issue of how their skull forms differ from each other. I'm asking because I do know that tissue can cover over differences in skull morphology. How much does skull morphology have to do with your measurements? Because certain formations like your ethnikid seem to be based more on complexion and tissue observations than on skull morphology.

And to reiterate another's question: why not try and classify the other races as well by common facial features? Why not expand your field and do more experiments?

Well, tissue and bones are not independent of one another. The root cause is hormonal. A Potatid is not just a fat person, it is a fat person with brachycephaly, euryproscopy, high estrogen and low testosterone. If all of these things are in place, the Potatid individual will grow soft, pudgy, rounded soft tissue no matter what his lifestyle is.

I do not have a table of measurements, but I have absolutely thought of general trends for each type. The Adenid, for example, is always dolichocephalic. This is related to the condition of Adenoid Facies.

I have looked into the classification of other races, but that aspect of the theory is not yet as developed.

Aw, yes. This man exhibits one of the most desirable facial types, by my calculations. The "Conid" which was popular in mayan society:

Actually, those "Conids" can be thought of as proto-Bankids, which my own phenotype has nothing to do with.

 

[Positron]

1. Dysgenic means that bad traits become more prevalent.

May I ask what "bad traits" you have in mind?
Also, traits that limit reproductive fitness will not become too prevalent, for obvious reason.

3. Neanderthals mostly ate meat. Meat is the best food source there is. It contributes to the growth of lean muscle. Soy simply raises estrogen, turning you into a short, pudgy, round-faced, low-virility Potatid farmer. Dairy causes acne and obesity. Grains cause diabetes and obesity.

• Consumption of meat increases nitrogen load and increases the burden to the liver and kidneys. Excessive protein breaks down to carbohydrate and fat. Hence lean meat, too, is fattening.
• Soy does not decrease testosterone level or sperm count, and is a good source of protein.
• Where did you get the idea that farmers are round faced and low in virility?
  
• Type II Diabetes is a complicated disease whose cause is still under investigation, but the notion that carbohydrates "cause" diabetes is at best extremely simplistic and equivocal. Indeed, a high intake of total and saturated fat (ahem, meat) appears to be more predictive of Type II DM.

Well, tissue and bones are not independent of one another. The root cause is hormonal. A Potatid is not just a fat person, it is a fat person with brachycephaly, euryproscopy, high estrogen and low testosterone. If all of these things are in place, the Potatid individual will grow soft, pudgy, rounded soft tissue no matter what his lifestyle is.

Stress sigh...
You know what? One of the obsessions of sluthate.com is hitting the gym. If lifestyle choices had nothing to do with your appearance, then why bother?

 

[Stratomsk]

1. Dysgenic means that bad traits become more prevalent.
2. Fair enough, but we can still look at the fossil record and see the changes in facial and bodily structure corresponding with the advent of agriculture. We can see that brains become smaller, bodies become weaker, faces become more retruded. Prior to the Neolithic, Europeans had "ancient" phenotypes. During the neolithic, they "evolved" to have the standard Caucasian phenotype of today. The obvious conclusion is that the massive change in lifestyle brought about my farming caused these physical changes to occur.
3. Neanderthals mostly ate meat. Meat is the best food source there is. It contributes to the growth of lean muscle. Soy simply raises estrogen, turning you into a short, pudgy, round-faced, low-virility Potatid farmer. Dairy causes acne and obesity. Grains cause diabetes and obesity.



An Ethnikid is probably going to be rather passionate and "saucy". An Adenid is going to be nerdy, depressive, and probably suffers from
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?164029-SUBHUMAN-SYNDROME. A Thallid is going to be obsessive, daydreaming, steadfast, and brilliant. A Potatid is probably going to be silly and a bit of a pushover.



Well, tissue and bones are not independent of one another. The root cause is hormonal. A Potatid is not just a fat person, it is a fat person with brachycephaly, euryproscopy, high estrogen and low testosterone. If all of these things are in place, the Potatid individual will grow soft, pudgy, rounded soft tissue no matter what his lifestyle is.

I do not have a table of measurements, but I have absolutely thought of general trends for each type. The Adenid, for example, is always dolichocephalic. This is related to the condition of Adenoid Facies.

I have looked into the classification of other races, but that aspect of the theory is not yet as developed.



Actually, those "Conids" can be thought of as proto-Bankids, which my own phenotype has nothing to do with.

You would execute some 'phenotypes' simply for the way their skulls are shaped. Therefore your entire argument is invalid, you bigot.

I would tell you to go get mental help but you are far too gone I feel.

And by the way if you back peddle by playing it off as a joke you are still a person that jokes about murdering people which hurts your reputation a great deal when you are trying to convince people of your theories.

 

[Coldgrip]

3. Neanderthals mostly ate meat. Meat is the best food source there is. It contributes to the growth of lean muscle. Soy simply raises estrogen, turning you into a short, pudgy, round-faced, low-virility Potatid farmer. Dairy causes acne and obesity. Grains cause diabetes and obesity.

If so why are you so sickly and deformed?

An Ethnikid is probably going to be rather passionate and "saucy". An Adenid is going to be nerdy, depressive, and probably suffers from
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?164029-SUBHUMAN-SYNDROME. A Thallid is going to be obsessive, daydreaming, steadfast, and brilliant. A Potatid is probably going to be silly and a bit of a pushover.

And you are a Retardid

 

[Amud]

Yeah, I've seen lots of these guys. My impression is that they're often guys with degrees in computer science and engineering that think that they understand economics, just because they know maths, and since they understand economics... Hey! That means they're also experts when it comes to politics.

These guys also seems to have some characteristics in common, namely:

*Pudgy, pale guys with glasses.
*being outspoken "Atheists" and "Libertarians"
*Reading military sci-fi

None of those apply to me except for "pale".

And are these guys Bankids too?

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Yeah, they are largely Adenid / Bankid blends.

I notice you claim dairy and grains are inferior to meat, but what about fruits and vegetables?

This is a very important question.

Neanderthals mostly ate meat, but their diet did include some fruits and veggies. I think they are useful for providing some micronutrients, but meat will provide more calories and macronutrients and so it should be the number one food source.

Are these pronounced PotAYtid, TomAYtid or PotAHtid TomAHtid?
The world needs to know Amud.

PotAYtid and TomAYtid.

Several of your definitions seem more related to the facial tissues than bone structure however. In particular, things like the potatid seem very tied to how much flesh is attached to the face, and such a person could theoretically change to another facial type under the right circumstances (such as aging and/or losing weight). Why emphasize bones so much if a plurality of your descriptors seems tied to the flesh instead?



I'd ask how you would know you'd be in a Neanderthal body, but I recall your hypothesis that Europeans and some Asian people evolved from them.

Speaking of which, where do you think Africans and other Asians who were non-neanderthals came from? The evolved Europeans, another hominid, or something else?



How is meat more nutritious than grains? Last I checked grains had fibers, B vitamins, and stuff like magnesium and selenium in them that meat lacks. Don't get me wrong, meat is the king of providing proteins and irons, but I'm curious how meat alone is healthier than say a balanced and mixed diet of substances.

Also, doesn't hunting have an innate chance of failing to find food that raising livestock doesn't?



If we didn't evolve to handle dairy, then how come Europeans and other peoples who started raising cattle developed the genes that allowed them to continue consuming it? Also, if we didn't evolve to consume grains, why are most people able to derive energy from them too?

As for why the paleo diet is remarked with such success, isn't it possible that much like peer review, there's a motive behind supporting and proving it works? Namely the people that market and sell this idea want to make it look like it's good so they can continue to earn money?

As for the rise of obesity, I'd swear that a lot of it involves our way of life becoming more sedentary as well as the rise of cheap, greasy foods.



That's a very common thought, since the land of Iran has traditionally been a crossroad of cultures, and it had influxes of Arabs and Turkic peoples for hundreds of years; the place is very multiethnic because of it.

1. That's false. Soft tissue and bone growth are both ultimately controlled by the same root mechanisms. A Potatid will not only have an estrogenic, fat-coated face, but the facial bones will be rounded and the entire skeleton will be pyknomorphic.

2. I think there were a variety of hominids and ancient human types, and various patterns of gene flow throughout the world which, along with differentiating through natural selections in different environments, ultimately gave rise to the various races we see today. I can't tell you any specifics, since it's just too complex for us to unravel it all. There were some Neanderthals who survived in America until recent times, like the Southern Cheyenne Chief Wolf Robe.

3. Yes, hunting and gathering does have some inherent uncertainty to it. Farming does too, though. There are always going to be droughts, floods, aphid infestations, and so on.

I'm not sure I can answer all of your specific questions about nutrition, since it is not my area of expertise. What I can say for certain is that the recent changes in our diets have not been for the better. We evolved to process certain foods, over the course of tens or hundreds of millenia, or even more. Switching to completely different form of sustenance in a proverbial blink of an eye on the geographic timescale can not be good for our bodies and minds.