Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[Not Really Here]

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you guys contributed to their deaths.

you lied to the world.

That was the same day (Tuesday 31 December 2019) that the real government of China in Taiwan told those useless fuckers about confirmed human to human transmission.
Edit: Useless Tedros tweet / Archive of useless Tedros tweet

 

[John Merston]

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Boris out of intensive care and moved to ward

UK coronavirus live: Boris Johnson leaves intensive care as Dominic Raab warns of no early end to lockdown

Foreign secretary has not spoken to prime minister since Saturday; Boris Johnson making ‘positive steps’; Sir Patrick Vallance expects UK death rate to continue to increase for two weeks

www.theguardian.com

https://archive.li/d4Xo8

Nice to see some good news in the middle of this shitshow.

 

[Pope of Degeneracy]

 

[Wallace]

This is really interesting.

Archive of the research

The FDA-approved Drug Ivermectin inhibits the replication of SARS-CoV…

archived 8 Apr 2020 15:15:56 UTC

archive.vn

Is anyone else starting to expect that one of the drugs that are FDA approved for another use will turn out to be very helpful in treating coronavirus?

The chances of any one drug being very helpful is not good but people are testing dozens of them all over the world and that makes me think we're going to get something. How effective that something is is of course unknown. However if you're looking at tens of thousands of deaths with no treatment even a relatively marginal one could save thousands of lives. If the worst case in hundreds of thousands of deaths a marginal treatment could save tens of thousands of lives.

In vitro research isn't something to get too excited about. Sure, it can kill the virus in a petri dish, but so does bleach. Lots of things that look good on a dish don't make the leap to in vivo gracefully.

 

[eternal dog mongler]

In vitro research isn't something to get too excited about. Sure, it can kill the virus in a petri dish, but so does bleach. Lots of things that look good on a dish don't make the leap to in vivo gracefully.

I have a thing that can kill viruses in vitro. It's called a gun.

This has no applicability in vivo unless you want to shoot patients.

 

[Fareal]

The National Clap annoys the fuck out of me. It is the worst kind of smug effort-free virtue signalling. It’s the doorstep KONY hashtag. It’s bullshit to allow the emotionally incontinent fuckwits that compose 85% of the UK population to feel that they “showed love to the NHS”.

If you really want to show love to the NHS? If you really want to “help our heroes”?

Text everyone you know who works for the NHS frontline, or has a household member who does. Ask them if they need a loaf or pint of milk left on the doorstep. Offer to grab an extra tin of soup for them, or some pot noodles, or some fucking Flash bleach spray.

Text everyone you know who’s elderly, or immunocompromised, and offer to do their shopping. Let the people most in danger stay safer, because the NHS doesn’t need to be intubating any more people than absolutely unavoidable.

Offer to pick up and cash in prescriptions for those people. Help them stay away from GP surgeries and GPs, who are still seeing coof patients in “assessment centres”. Help them away from pharmacies where the brain dead are rocking up with probable coof and asking for “an antibiotic”.

Support proposals to raise the minimum wage for our “key workers”, the poor bastards still stacking shelves and getting screamed at on the tills so that the rest of us are still able to buy booze and crisps. The lowest paid in our society have worked the most hours and been the most exposed throughout this bullshit. Support with your custom those businesses who have taken good care of those workers and chucked them a much needed extra few quid.

But don’t fucking clap like a monkey. The people you are “supporting” are mostly at fucking work anyway.

The neighbours all aborted the National Clap pretty fucking quick when spouse appeared in scrubs and PPE shouting up the front drive, “Have you got the bleach handy? Come and clean me up, the house call I went to is dying”. Fucking clapping isn’t going to help that poor bastard, or whoever will be intubating them in due course.

/madontheinternet /smellingofbleach

 

[Jaimas]

My mom, despite extensive quarantines, got infected.

Good job, New York State.

 

[Gustav Schuchardt]

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you guys contributed to their deaths.

you lied to the world.

Unsurprisingly that's pretty much every reply to the tweet and similar ones like it.

Some of these replies are quite creative

阿凱 on Twitter

“@DrTedros”

twitter.com

https://archive.vn/wip/RKVFY

FPL_Sam 😷 on Twitter

“@Nama50571114 @DrTedros let's re-visit the catalog of errors and misjudgments by the WHO. #TedrosResign #disbandWHO”

twitter.com

https://archive.vn/wip/zRrds

And then there's the issue of masks. The WHO has consistently told people not to wear masks. In fact I went out shopping today and there was a couple in front of me. The man had a surgical mask on and the woman said to him 'You know the WHO doesn't recommend masks for uninfected people, right?' and he looked a bit sheepish. And I thought 'What about asymptomatic transmission?'. Other more credible health organizations have conceded that mask-wearing is worth doing solely to limit the ability of asymptomatic carriers coughing out droplets containing the virus and those droplets infecting someone else. They've even said that you can make masks yourself which bypasses the concern about starving health care professions of them.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/diy-cloth-face-coverings.html
https://archive.vn/dAH73

And yet I know first-hand people where I am still think the WHO has told them not to wear a mask. Right now, of course, it almost doesn't matter what the WHO says. You're not going to buy a mask in a store or online, most people don't have a sewing machine and can't sew and can't make one. Like everything else corona related sewing machines, needles, thread, etc are presumably going to sell out. Your chance to get one was a month or so ago, and back then the WHO was telling you not to get one. And it's not like telling people not to buy masks means that healthcare professionals have them either. It seems like they're out too. So the WHO denied human transmission denounced travel bans, didn't recommend quarantines and told people not to buy masks. The end result being the virus is epidemic in most major cities and we're all locked down.

 

[simulated goat]

Some anecdotal stuff: some farmers in the area humanely putting down older animals they would have otherwise allowed to live another year or two. Just stuff I'm hearing through the grapevine. I imagine it is because of economics

 

[Barnard]

Another quick episode of Polish numbers: the Not So Bad Edition. 370 new cases, 16 deaths, 62 recoveries. The epidemic's progress has been largely stagnant for a week now. With luck, maybe we're actually past the peak and the numbers are in plateau for a while and will start declining soon before second wave hits. Restrictions remain in place for now, we still have to go through Easter and things could go sideways if too many families decide to throw caution to the wind and meet up. Also masks will be obligatory starting a week from now.

Once again I find myself wondering about what's going on in France. There was 1400 dead in a day recent, now there's 1300 today. How come we don't hear many horrible stories of overwhelmed healthcare from there like we did from Italy or Spain?

 

[Plunkie]

Some anecdotal stuff: lots of farmers in the area humanely putting down older animals they would have otherwise allowed to live another year or two. Just stuff I'm hearing through the grapevine. I imagine it is because .of economics

Less resources spent on them and more meat to preserve for quarantine. An old, butchered, and frozen cow will last a family quite a long time

 

[simulated goat]

Less resources spent on them and more meat to preserve for quarantine. An old, butchered, and frozen cow will last a family quite a long time

Didn't hear of cows, most were of the horsey/pet varieties.

I've eaten old dairy cow though. Even the ground beef was tough...

 

[spiritofamermaid]

I've gotten a bit tired of posting Memphis news because it's the same things over and over, so I went to look at the Memphis suburb news. I searched "flu" and for one of the suburbs, Collierville, I found this article.

Classes resume at West Middle after possible flu outbreak | The Collierville Herald Independent

colliervilleh-i.com

Classes resume at West Middle after possible flu outbreak | The Colli…

archived 9 Apr 2020 19:52:49 UTC

archive.vn

From what I remember living in the area, something like this is completely unheard of, though it might also be a result of Collierville having their own school district. Honestly who knows, but I wanted to put it out there for more speculation regarding when exactly it arrived in the US. Also iirc my dad told me how in January, before the schools reopened, they disinfected all of the rooms (which is more than what they normally do to clean them before they reopen).

 

[Without A Gout]

Katie Hopkins on Twitter

“This is South Africa. Mass looting of liquor and food stores. Schools torched. Civil unrest My question: how far away are the hardest hit parts of NYC or London from this? We need a way out. #COVIDー19 https://t.co/fLvaFkdXlp”

twitter.com

Welcome to South Africa. Feel free to join in on the widescale looting of brick-and-mortar stores in the cities. Enjoy your stay.

 

[simulated goat]

Katie Hopkins on Twitter

“This is South Africa. Mass looting of liquor and food stores. Schools torched. Civil unrest My question: how far away are the hardest hit parts of NYC or London from this? We need a way out. #COVIDー19 https://t.co/fLvaFkdXlp”

twitter.com

Welcome to South Africa. Feel free to join in on the widescale looting of brick-and-mortar stores in the cities. Enjoy your stay.

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Here we go. At least in NYC people are boarding up.

 

[and 3 others]

OK, I know Fauci knows what he's talking about medically, but......seriously?

https://thehill.com/homenews/admini...i-dont-think-we-should-shake-hands-ever-again

Demolition Man called it.

 

[Lurker69]

Third Week of Big U.S. Jobless Claims Sees 6.61 Million Filings

Third Week of Big U.S. Jobless Claims Sees 6.61 Million Filings

Americans applied for unemployment benefits in massive numbers for a third straight week, bringing the total to about 16.8 million during the coronavirus pandemic’s economic shutdown.

www.bloomberg.com

http://archive.is/WaLQU

 

[Gustav Schuchardt]

Katie Hopkins on Twitter

“This is South Africa. Mass looting of liquor and food stores. Schools torched. Civil unrest My question: how far away are the hardest hit parts of NYC or London from this? We need a way out. #COVIDー19 https://t.co/fLvaFkdXlp”

twitter.com

Welcome to South Africa. Feel free to join in on the widescale looting of brick-and-mortar stores in the cities. Enjoy your stay.

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This is South Africa. Mass looting of liquor and food stores. Schools torched. Civil unrest My question: how far away are the hardest hit parts of NYC or London from this? We need a way out. #COVIDー19

https://archive.vn/vVZiQ

The depressing thing is that everyone knows the bits of NYC and London that most resemble South Africa in terms of the ethnic mix of their inhabitants are probably not all that far away from looting but if you say that you'll get banned for racism.

And if you're unlucky enough to be in one of those cities you'll be prevented from leaving when the shit hits the fan. Hell people have been warned by police for making 'unnecessary' journeys now. Trying to flee in an SHTF scenario will presumably be deemed an unnecessary journey.

It's the Mr 'You're in Peckham!' question - How long will it take before people like him decide the police are otherwise engaged and he can break the law with impunity? The UK had a sort of yoof uprising in 2011. That started over the shooting of Mark Duggan but it rapidly spread once the scumbags worked out the police couldn't stop them from looting and burning shit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_England_riots

https://archive.vn/RHfS3

 

[CeleryStalks]

Michigan, USA

Governor Gretchen Whitmer (D) has, as expected, extended our shutdown to April 30.
All public and private gatherings of any size are prohibited.
Store occupancy will be limited to four customers per 1000 square feet, or 25% of normal fire capacity, depending on the size of the store.
Persons having more than one home may no longer travel between them after tomorrow, Friday, April 10.
Gardening sections of stores are to be closed as nonessential.
Official government website (archive)

Pessimistic article on the state of our hospitals. TL;DR Detroit is getting hammered hard and its taking its toll on nurses and doctors. Some highlights:

Officials at the Beaumont Health in metro Detroit said on Monday that 1,500 of its 38,000 workers, including 500 nurses, were out sick with COVID symptoms. The Henry Ford Health System said about 600 to 700 of their 31,000 workers have tested positive. At University of Michigan’s Michigan Medicine, 110 workers out 728 tested positive for the coronavirus. Two-thirds of those who have tested positive for COVID-19 in Bay County are health care workers, according to the Bay County Health Department.

Running out of body bags. People dying in the hallway. Coronavirus has Michigan hospital workers at a breaking point.

The number of patients. The severity of their symptoms. The issues with staffing, with personal protection equipment, with access to testing. Hospital staff are facing challenges they've never experienced before.

www.mlive.com

(archive)

Optimistic article on the same. TL;DR Detroit hospitals are having fewer cases than they feared. More patients are being taken off ventilators than being put on them, and the study on hydroxychloroquine as a preventative will be continuing.

Henry Ford official sees 'glimmers of hope' in virus patients

Henry Ford Health System officials said Thursday they've seen "glimmers of hope" in recent days in battling the coronavirus outbreak in Metro Detroit

www.detroitnews.com

(archive)

Our state government now has a page dedicated to keeping track of hospital capacity. Regions 2 North and 2 South cover the Detroit Metro area and neighboring counties. Link (archive).

Spoiler: Michigan Recap

SHUTDOWNS
Shelter-in-place order and shutdown of everything non-essential from Tuesday March 24 to Monday April 13. ???day, April ?? (archive) (executive order saved on KF). Marijuana shops are open. Tobacco shops are closed (archive). K-12 schools suspended for remainder of year, but alternate learning plans will be implemented (archive) (archive).
The Big Three Auto manufacturers (Ford, GM, Chrysler) are closing all factories in the USA, putting well over 150,000 workers out of work. This figure does not include workers at supplier factories, which will also be obliged to close. (archive) (archive) (archive). They will be making a small number of parts for emergency vehicles, and GM will be helping Ventec, a company that makes ventilators (archive - ventilators). Ford will be helping 3M and GE Healthcare to make respirators and ventilators (archive).

ECONOMY AND MISCELLANY
Unemployment so high that claims must be made on certain days, based on claimant's last name. (archive)
Big Brother is watching, and he approves. Massive phone-tracking project reveals Michigan travel down by 45%, compared to 40% nation-wide (website) (news article archive).

FREE STUFF!
Evictions suspended while the state of emergency lasts (archive)
Water will be turned back on for all households while the crisis lasts (archive)

FREEDOM!
Semi-trucks carrying essential supplies can ignore seasonal road weight limits (archive)
Distilleries can make hand sanitizer without a permit (archive)
Pharmacists may prescribe 60 days of emergency medication and may substitute drugs without physicians approval in event of shortages (archive). Various other medical restrictions loosened (archive).
Restaurants can sell food like grocery stores (archive)

HEALTH CARE
Detroit hospitals are at or near capacity and have reached the point of moving patients out to other hospitals (archive - March 30). (archive of Detroit triage plans)
Detroit-area nurse makes a video (archive)
Detroit hospital staff protest unsafe patient-to-nurse ratio. Asked to leave hospital. Still plan to come back to work. (Their video; news article archive)
Hydroxychloroquine banned by governor's order (archive). Nevermind LOL! Now she's asking the federal government for it and claiming the ban was a typo in the first place. (archive). Detroit-area hospitals are beginning to test the drug's effectiveness as a preventative on first responders and health-care workers (archive).
A look at how many hospital beds, ICU beds, and ventilators Michigan has, by region (archive).

LAW AND ORDER
All localities given more discretion to release prisoners early (archive). The State prison system is not currently releasing inmates early.
Lansing (the capitol) police are not physically responding to minor crimes such as larceny, property damage, and break-ins to unoccupied buildings, including garages. Other police are adopting similar policies (archive) (archive).
Detroit police claim crime is down. (archive).
Muskegon police report crime is up (archive).
Breaking the lockdown is a misdemeanor, punishable by $1500 fines and 90 days jail time. Governor Gretchen Whitmer (D) has stated there will not be a "ramp up" of police enforcement (archive). The attorney general has left it to local law enforcement to close businesses, as her hands are full with price-gougers and con artists (archive).
The police cannot, at present, pull drivers over simply for being out during the shutdown (archive).

DEATH TOLL
Detroit Metro (pop. 3,860,000):*

17,123 confirmed / 915 dead
16,259 confirmed / 821 dead yesterday
(i.e. 94 new deaths, up 1 from previous day)
Normal Detroit Metro Death Rate: 104 per day.**

Other Michigan (6,120,000):

4,381 confirmed / 161 dead
4,087 confirmed / 138 dead yesterday
(i.e. 23 new deaths, up 2 from previous day)
Normal not-Detroit Death Rate: 167 per day**

All Michigan (9,990,000):

21,504 confirmed / 1,076 dead
20,346 confirmed / 959 dead yesterday
(i.e. 117 new deaths, up 3 from previous day)
Normal Michigan Death Rate: 271 per day.**

Death toll doubled since: April 3.
We have been locked down since: March 24.

Detroit Metro Daily Deaths Last Seven Days:
53 / 48 / 67 / 92 / 97 / 93 / 94 = 544

State Government site, daily - today's archive;
State Gov site, total, includes breakdowns by sex, age, race and ethnicity - today's archive.
*Here defined as the City of Detroit, and Macomb, Oakland, and Wayne Counties, minus state prisoners, who are not counted towards any county's cases, but are kept in a category of their own.
** As of 2018.
Also one Ann Arbor man allegedly killed by his roommate in a Corona-related dispute (archive). The suspect has been released from custody while the investigation continues (archive).

 

[cuddle striker]

from the ground:

.morgue truck is gone
.freezers still full but we've slowed down
.next wave is in bed: nurses and coworkers
.all of us who tested negative get the good PPE and reduced hours
.those who tested positive are working OT
. people who were on vents last week are still on them, this shit takes forever

our numbers dropped a bit from last week, we are peaked "officially", stay-home order and non-essentials closed for another month

every time I have to go out and about there's people without masks acting like idiots as well as most people masked (fucking finally) trying hard to be friendly to each other, lots of little waves and hellos. two of the three places I've had to go, were handing out cloth masks.

traffic is the same as far as I can see. apparently one of the homeless shelters here handed out relatively decent cloth masks with filters, and showed them how to wear them. I saw two wearing them properly, fitted to the nose. at the grocery they had just been given surgical masks and I had to explain to three different workers how to fit them and tuck them under the jaw, they had just slapped them in front of their face.

the Pacific NW is doing better.