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I'll give actual news roundup later I'm atill getting intel. Nothing much new though just a heads up.

Seems like there was an Islamist stabbing attack in France during the corona lockdown.

The report is kind of funny because it's fucking obvious what happens but it's all about French politicians saying 'please wait for the results of the official investigation.

Basically they let in someone as an asylum seeker, he decided he couldn't live in an infidel country and killed all the people he could. and was arrested praying in Arabic. However, we're still told to wait for the official investigation.

It's also another example of how letting in the wrong people can come to bite you when you're in a crisis.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOGwfK5lRLQ


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Apparently he shouted Allahu Akbar when he was stabbing people

https://web.archive.org/web/2020040...u-Akbar-stabbing-two-people-death-France.html

I guess we'll never know his motives...

On the upside, Boris is out of intensive care!


https://web.archive.org/web/2020040...5927/Boris-Johnson-LEAVES-intensive-care.html

His pregnant fiancee shared this, which is kind of heartwarming in the circumstances even if normally I'd made a cynical comment. Looks like BoJo has his MoJo back.


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Did she literally rate his survival as optimistic? Or was that a rating on his chances of being able to have sex without choking on his own lung before the end of the year? I know it's poor taste but someone had to take this fattest of chances!

rate me ⏰ if i am but this post on 4tism got my noodle cooking a bit:

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if this is really case (perhaps medical kiwis can provide anecdotes if they live in rural areas) that means there's going to be an extremely weird market effect with regards to healthcare in the coming months/years in the US. i wonder if we're going to get nationalized healthcare just as a necessity to keep the more rural healthcare workers employed.
between this and the Fed purchasing company assets as collateral for loans, and printing money (i.e., issuing bonds) like there's no tomorrow to keep the economy afloat, we practically live in a giant centralized state run by banks, amazon, google, and walmart. we're china without the CCP as the power center at this point.

sort of off topic but still, this pandemic is going to have long-reaching policy repercussions that we can't even begin to predict at this point for how non-lethal the disease seems to actually be, especially compared to the spanish flu or (in the worst possible case) the plague, much less SARS or MERS.

I already told y'all that was our case before the first local outbreak hit and we're at the small city level. There's a reason I keep putting emphasis on pop density. THAT is the reason! It ain't no secret on the biomedical fields that rural areas ignore pandemics unless their healthcare is horridly unprepared.

One fundamental of journalism, is to produce a story. So journalist does whatever s/he can, to knit together a story. If you work for a massive machine like Reuters or LA Times or Washington Post, if you spin batshit, it won't cross your editor's desk. They have a brand to sell, and if educated readers detect bullshit, that's it for their paper.

From what I've seen, "false news" on mainstream news outlets is interpreting in shades of black when in reality, perhaps shades of gray is a more apt description.

However, much of the information is dated, or presented by a journalist who has a poor understanding of the subject. A lot is overly optimistic IMHO.

Some of it might also come from a standpoint that we don't agree with.

There are a lot of bullshit conspiracy theories out there, that absolutely defy rational thinking. And they don't stand up to scrutiny. That is absolutely false news.

You have not seen a real journalist in your life. Specially one working for mainstream news.

Given that the ones accused of running the EU, namely the rich northern states, have this far always flat-out rejected the idea of Eurobonds, which has been raised repeatedly and exclusively by southern European nations, that comment makes no sense in this context.

Yeah and instead of bonds that could solve them the north keeps pushing for abhorrent overreaching regulation, generation of massive debt through the central bank, and stifling of southern economies through export snuffing.

You're usually intelligent but your defense of northEU has been the single most idiotic shit I've seen you spew. And the fact the bullshit propaganda'a gotten to even you is precisely why I won't shed a tear for the northern population once the reich breaks appart under the weight of its tyrany. Us colonies are sick and tired of being slaves. This has no way back. Coronachan killsteals another victim.
 
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This scientist wants women to donate breast milk for research. Suuuuure.
Breast Milk Could Hold Clues to Coronavirus Protection. This New York City Researcher Wants to Study Yours. Vice doesn't like being linked here. Cowards.
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The title makes it sound like the researcher is just feeding a fetish. He probably is.
Incoming panda baby boom.
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Bats are plague carrying friends, not food.
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Australia looksinto the BCG vaccine.
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Knowing Microshaft products, Bill's predictions are likely bugged and everything will return to normal by the fall.
It'll pull an 1809 and delete itself by fall. Back up those predictions.
I'd listen to a turd in a toilet before I'd listen to Bill Gates.
Will 32X Doom's soundtrack suffice?
These games are getting really realistic. - Bill Gates circa 1995
 
Bro, when you say on international news that you so totally don’t care about harrassment... you really fucking care about harrassment. Dumbshit.

People are still memeing on him despite him telling them he DIDN'T CARE

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When you thought, that the evil Drumpfh can possibly not get any lower, he does this - he has his wife to go on camera and tell the americans to wear masks. Knowing all the time, that about the half of USA hates his ass and will do the exact opposite coming from the mouths of the Drumpf clan, ensuring that all the democrats would not wear masks just to spite him. Impeach him for this vile election meddling right now - he is literally trying to kill off all his enemies!
 
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I've returned with a few more of my observations, also some updates from Canada-land this morning. So the stimulus cheques have went out, and oh my God the government fucked up real hard with the payments. More or so in the aspect that they have OVERPAID a lot of people. I fell in that category, and that was because partially it was an error on their part from anyone who applied for EI before the stimulus went out. They ended up issuing the original EI payments for everyone who lost their back pay, and the CERB is supposed to cover this month. Everyone that qualifies for the CERB gets up to 8 grand, so about 4 installments of 2000 dollars per month. So they are planning on keeping things on lock down until July or August roughly now in Canada. I am guessing if they've overpaid, once they determine that they'll either make you pay it back, or they'll probably limit the payments. I didn't intentionally get more money, so I'll resolve the situation once it comes time to do that. I ain't fucking around with the CRA on the phone, it's a fucking nightmare in normal times, let alone BAMBOO-FLU times.

I am defiantly concerned, because I do not want to put in the position of paying all of the extra money back if that is not the case. Many have tried to call to rectify the situation, many have been unsuccessful in that endeavor. So there is something fucked up their algorithm in the way they are issuing their payments. Nor am I the type of person that wants to fall in getting too much of what I don't really need anyways, I could say though that the government is at least taking the pandemic very seriously. Despite how I am not a fan of Trudeau or any of the ministers at the federal level because of how they have fucked so much up in a very short amount of time in their lack of response since the outbreak in Wuhan. Also, I am beginning to get very fucking stir crazy in the house, been almost a month since I've been on layoff, doesn't help I haven't seen another human being beyond my housemates in the amount of time either.

We also have our lolcow medical minister MISQUOTING things that can be easily verified because of the power of Google. The numbers keep changing on their models, I guess they are attributing the significantly lower projected death toll to their fucking mistake of leaving the boarders open to ONLY 11-25K DEAD OVER COURES OF PANDEMIC. While many have different observations, at worst in their models about 350,000 people could of been dead in the course of the pandemic, which would be 18 months. If that was allowed to happen, then that is literally 2 years that Canada would have twice the death rate in normal times. On average 250-300k people die a year in Ice Mexico, so over that 18 month period our death rate would almost double, and would probably be higher than that since the serge in Corona patients would totally fucking collapse our health care system. So the 350k could see another 100-200k if the medical system collapses totally. THE GREAT MASK DEBATE also has been a topic of discussion, I guess they are still having the whole WHO narrative about how masks aren't important for the common folk, and we have to reserve them for the health care professionals. Which I agree the front line people should be top priority, but the N95 respirators have been proven to prevent the transmission about 80% in most cases, but of course we all know it is to cover their asses for never replenishing the stock pile.

The antibody tests are underway in the States BLOOMBERG OPINION ARTICLE so people are beginning to finally talk about the antibody tests, so how well they will work is pretty hard to determine. Here is a better article 14% IMMUNE IN ONE LITTLE GERMAN TOWN in the MIT tech review article, proposing that they are already working out a way of better predicting some lockdown measures based on the studies they've done in that town. I suppose they are going to try to use the health care workers in certain municipalities to try to determine a probable figure of what would be deemed to be asymptomatic in the population. CANADA STILL DEVELOPING A PROPER ANTIBODY TEST and still has lack luster testing for the novel virus, only 9,812/1M tested as the date of posting. That means almost 1% of the population has been tested for the Novel virus from the beginning of the COVID-19 crisis this year. So we have some promising figures in regards to an anti-body test internationally, as well some better insights on the adjustments made to their cluster fucked models.
 
How to increase your reputation during pandemics:
1. Don't be China
2. Help other countries by sending things that are actually useful and not some garbage
3. Don't be China
 
Sweden banned all "unnecessary trips" to Sweden according to www.krisinformation.se. I don't know if allowing Somali rapefugees to enter Sweden to collect welfare is considered "a very important reason to enter Sweden" but it wouldn't surprise me considering their government.

A lot of room for interpretation in this "travel ban."

I am posting the Swedish version so our Swedish Kiwis can translate it better than me.

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Translation:

"The government has decided to temporarily halt non-essential travel to Sweden from countries outside Europe. The purpose of this is to mitigate the effects of the corona virus outbreak and limit the spread of covid-19.

The decision applies from Mars 19 and at least for a period of 30 days.
The ban on inbound travel applies for all foreign citizens attempting to enter into Sweden from a country not part of the Schengen Agreement including Switzerland.

All travel to Sweden is not halted. Swedish citizens and other persons that are residing in Sweden will be allowed to return to their homes. The ban on inbound travel also does not apply to persons who have particularly important reasons to travel to Sweden. This applies to for example diplomats, persons in need of international protection and persons who will perform essential functions in Sweden, such as medical personnel and persons transporting goods into Sweden.

The corona virus is an international concern that requires cross-border cooperation and coordinated measures. Today's decision is in line with the European council's and commission's call to the EU member states to establish a temporary ban on inbound travel to the EU zone from third countries."
 
In "The media continue to expose themselves as the useless cunts they are" and most likely at the behest of the EU loving Editor in Chief are now trying to "Gotcha" Robert Jenwick, Minister for Hosuing, Communities etc.


After the lockdown... he stayed in London for a few days to help stand in for BoJo and conduct final business, then went home to his wife and three kids who he's been away from.

He then did a 40 mile trip to deliver essential supplies and medical stuff for his parents.

"BUT LOCALS SAY THEY WERE DOING SHIT FOR THEM."

Yeah, and? Its nice neighbours have been looking out for his parents but its still not family looking out for family. All of which is covered under essential travel.

It's a piss poor attempt to try and "LOOK THEY ALL DOING IT" after the irresponsible Gynocologist LARPing as a useful Chief Medical Officer in Scotland repeatedly fucked off to her holiday home each weekend.
 
I'm pissed. My awesome family member, who has been a pediatric nurse since the late 80's, and all of her coworkers were forced to take a 10% pay cut. Health care workers should be making hazard pay rn. Wtf is that shit

I'm also mad because some of the great lakes near by are only allowing boating fishing. So the poor can't fish of dams or public docks. Some people literally get most of their meat from the lakes... Washington is so short sided it doesn't realize some people don't just depend on groceries to manifest at a store.

Gee, it's almost as if letting urban areas filled with bugpeople decide the fate of entire state/nation is a bad idea....
 
Why is this tabloid fodder and fear mongering?

New York has an insane number of cases. They need to bury people. End of story.

Even if you could afford a proper burial for Aunt Tilly, good luck finding a funeral home who can process her, another COVID victim, PLUS the regular run of the mill deaths ...

The Hazmat suits seem a bit extreme, but they might be due to soil contamination in the area, and not to the people in the pine boxes. Or to the backfill they are using.
On the average 300+ people pop their clogs in NYC every day and a sizable number have no next of kin claiming their body. Prisoners on Rikers Island can earn some commissary money by doing the burial detail on Hart Island. This may be unpleasant but it's a well known fact if you live here. I don't find hazmat suits alarming if these gravediggers are handling bodies that died from a contagious illness that has no cure. Right now there are two times (some days three) as many people dead every day and the city is locked down so I imagine funeral homes are working at capacity with fewer employees, hence the need to put the bodies somewhere.

There aren't "mass graves", those are temporary grave sites since the city can't store all those dead in a freezer while people make funeral arrangements. It's the third time this week some news site has posted pictures of Hart Island with the headline screaming "MASS GRAVES BEING DUG IN NEW YORK CITY HUNDREDS OF DEAD!!!" New York is a big city (the biggest in the US actually) and in most parts life goes on. This isn't Wuhan 2.0 by any stretch of the imagination.

I don't think people understand just how many morbidly obese diabetics with heart issues there are in NYC, especially (but not exclusively) in black and Hispanic neighborhoods. Or the prevalance of asthma and COPD. And smokers. Don't forget to take into account the elderly and the sick who are fragile and/or immunocompromised. I'm not even going to mention duggies, alkies and hobos. In a large city that's a lot of folks. So yes, many people died and there will be more dead and we ran out of space at the morgue. I think it's macabre news sites are sensationalizing the dead just for clicks.

Sorry for the long post. I'm feeling bitchy today about the lockdown and the absolute morons running the city and the state of New York. I'm also dreading having to go out today or tomorrow. My cat ran out of medicine and I don't know if I can get any until next week. Social distancing here is merely a suggestion for most people.
 
Late morning news roundup:

1-Cops warn cyberattacks performed against Zoom with malware to steal yo moneys, recommend absolutely everyone deletes their Zoom accounts 'cause Google's security is GARBAGE. Here's the copypaste of the circulating message from the Guardia Civil:

Con motivo del uso extendido que los teletrabajadores y particulares están haciendo de la aplicación Zoom para videoconferencias, los ciberatacantes están aprovechando algunas debilidades de la plataforma para distribuir malware y capturar datos personales. Por ello, os recomendamos encarecidamente: Que eliminéis las cuentas que podáis tener en Zoom, incluso a nivel particular. Que desinstaléis la aplicación de todos vuestros dispositivos (pc, portátiles, smartphone, tablets) Que no aceptéis conexiones a videoconferencias que se realicen por Zoom, incluidas las clases de inglés y algunas de nuestras unidades de negocio. Les pediremos que usen otra plataforma. Os enviaremos información al respecto cuando dispongamos de ella. https://twitter.com/guardiacivil/status/1245395500356046848?s=19 Para cualquier duda estamos a vuestra disposición. Mucho ánimo y un saludo, Dpto. de Sistemas de Información

2-NYT as always tries to fuck people over and publishes bullshit. I'll leave link: https://www.nytimes.com/es/2020/04/09/espanol/opinion/espana-coronavirus-hospitales.html if you're wondering the title. The whole "best healthcare in the world" bullshit has been pushed by both left and right to justify cuts and bullshit. Our healthcare is great. It's not the best. That couldn't even be measured to begin with. But point is the rest of the article is nothing but inflamatory bollocks, misrepresentations and chink propaganda. Thankfully all I've seen is people endlessly critiziving NYT for it and pointing out the bullshit. Reason I put it here is, dear burgerlanders, I believe this is how your media usually acts, so get ready for the tactics at display. NYT lies. NYt steals. NYT eats everything.

3-Not much else on the news. Talks have become mostly about economy. Spain's already on track to beat this bitch. I do have one hilarious factoid. Every day the government is changing the slogan on the banner thingies. Yesterday I didn't read it but today people are memeing it to hell and back, because apparently they used "un dia mas y uno menos" translation: "One day more. And one day less" jfc the memes! Did they not realize how that could be interpreted or did they just want to give us a chuckle? I don't care it's still hilarious.

Overall, the guard holds, usual level of politics and vitriol comes from above, preparations being made, economy will get real soon enough. The Pacto de la Moncloa no one's talking much but it seems first order of the day is renationalization (in the trump sense) of everything considered important and actual possible temporary nationalization of businesses to rescue them like Italy is doing to their planes. Of course right wing just want to give infinite free money to big biz and no strings but with left wing gov that shit ain't happening anytime soon. Specially after Rajoi's bullshit. So basically we're going commie at least more than expected, and more importantly we're sending EU regulations to the fucking trashbin where they belong as I warned you. It's like no one is even considering still adhering to that shit at all, we're gonna compete with all we have. Merkel and Sarkozy (and their bastard children on the netherlands) are gonna get ultrapissed but by the way our politicians talk it seems Sanchez is the only one who's even considering not deliberately pissing them off just yet, and only because he's trying to keep up appearances for long enough to see if he snags any bonds. My recomendation to central europe: relations are past fixing, spexit is inevitable, don't even try to stop it, don't give sanchez shit, we're already set to be your enemies and anyone trying to avoid it will be painting a target on their backs, no point in aiding us, this is where europe breaks. Hope you can get ready for what comes. Because as much as I meme about building a wall in Berlin, I don't actually wish your population any harm, I only wish to break the chains you imposed on us, and they're breaking. And the instability this will bring WILL absolutely ASSRAPE your economy. 'Cause if you think spain's the only one going you should take a look east, no one's gonna remain, at all, even if the EU name stands it'll do so only while everyone breaks your bullshit colonial legislation, this is where the organism that has given you power DIES. And up until now you've relied on african bullshit to feed your economic warmachine but if you avert your eyes down south you'll realize they're gonna snap even harder than us. We can become self sufficient. Can you?
 
In "The media continue to expose themselves as the useless cunts they are" and most likely at the behest of the EU loving Editor in Chief are now trying to "Gotcha" Robert Jenwick, Minister for Hosuing, Communities etc.


After the lockdown... he stayed in London for a few days to help stand in for BoJo and conduct final business, then went home to his wife and three kids who he's been away from.

He then did a 40 mile trip to deliver essential supplies and medical stuff for his parents.

"BUT LOCALS SAY THEY WERE DOING SHIT FOR THEM."

Yeah, and? Its nice neighbours have been looking out for his parents but its still not family looking out for family. All of which is covered under essential travel.

It's a piss poor attempt to try and "LOOK THEY ALL DOING IT" after the irresponsible Gynocologist LARPing as a useful Chief Medical Officer in Scotland repeatedly fucked off to her holiday home each weekend.

The ridiculous thing is, he didn’t even break the lockdown rules. We are all supposed to be trying to do what we can to ensure our elderly and vulnerable kith and kin arent going out. We are allowed, nay encouraged, to go to the shops for them as long as we don’t actually go a visit. Also, who the fuck actually trusts the care of their frail parents to the parents’ bloody neighbours anyway?!
 
Seems like there was an Islamist stabbing attack in France during the corona lockdown.

The report is kind of funny because it's fucking obvious what happens but it's all about French politicians saying 'please wait for the results of the official investigation.

Basically they let in someone as an asylum seeker, he decided he couldn't live in an infidel country and killed all the people he could. and was arrested praying in Arabic. However, we're still told to wait for the official investigation.

It's also another example of how letting in the wrong people can come to bite you when you're in a crisis.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOGwfK5lRLQ


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Apparently he shouted Allahu Akbar when he was stabbing people

https://web.archive.org/web/2020040...u-Akbar-stabbing-two-people-death-France.html

I guess we'll never know his motives...

On the upside, Boris is out of intensive care!


https://web.archive.org/web/2020040...5927/Boris-Johnson-LEAVES-intensive-care.html

His pregnant fiancee shared this, which is kind of heartwarming in the circumstances even if normally I'd made a cynical comment. Looks like BoJo has his MoJo back.


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I'm wondering to all the U.K kiwis, have you heard any of the LGBT alphabetti spaghetti lot screee about the rainbow being used for love/thanks for N.H.S ? I thought they would be wailing about their symbol being used
 
Dr. Campbell made an 'encouraging' video on immunity. Also, Porton Down laboratory is on the fucking case.

16% of the population have had the virus and now have antibodies and immunity. Also if there are lots of asymptomatic cases the CFR comes down. Herd immunity needs 60-70% but even 15-16% will slow the spread. Caveat - study is based on one town but the authors think that the study is representative.

This takes Germany's CFR down from the Johns Hopkins estimate of 1.98% which he calls 'frightening high' to 0.37% which is 'encouraging'. Roughly 1 in 300 infected people will die.

The much lower CFR is because the study is detecting asymptomatic cases.

OTOH a Chinese study failed to detect antibodies in 6% of the cases. It might be a poor test because LOLPRC but it might also indicate that not everyone becomes immune. Most people think that immunity lasts for around 18 months based on similar viruses, could be more. 18 months is sufficient time to develop a vaccine. The authors of the study recommend more testing. Amen to that.

Antibody testing currently only being done in Porton Down. Sophisticated lab. We need a mass market test.

Germany will issue immunity certificates. When you are walking on the street the police will say "Ihre Papiere, bitte!". If you don't have them you will be sent home or to a camp where people like you are concentrated. Seems very prudent.

Discussion of how countries are doing with testing.

Australia and New Zealand now have declining new case counts. France is behind on testing. Germany doing well. Iceland doing very well.

Campbell reckons we need to test everyone. Sweden is a failure as you'd expect. Switzerland is a doing very well, as you'd also expect.

India and Pakistan are both a complete fail. Same with Philippines - tightly packed urban areas, very low levels of testing. Same with Africa.

It seems like India, Pakistan, Africa may well have a very serious problem in the future.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EUZEtJHQhE
https://archive.vn/wip/W5K6Y

 
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