Wuhan Coronavirus - COVID-19 Analysis & Summary - This is not just fucking pneumonia. It is everything but the kitchen sink. Lungs, heart, kidneys, liver, brain, blood vessels, testes. It affects them all.

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Ah yes the "IT'S A FALLACY SO U RONG REEEE" and citing the same tabloid journals argument again, totally gonna work this time. I guess your autism glazed over when everyone explained why that didn't work.

Good job proving you can't read anything that fights against your current biases.

So do you think this strat is eventually going to work? Lurking doesn't really help if the problem isn't the audience.

It's you.

You's a bitch.
 
Ah yes the "IT'S A FALLACY SO U RONG REEEE" and citing the same tabloid journals argument again, totally gonna work this time.

So do you think this strat is eventually going to work? Lurking doesn't really help if the problem isn't the audience.

It's you.

You's a bitch.

I hope you realize that this is the rhetorical equivalent of plugging one's ears and humming Stars and Stripes Forever.
 
We've been through this song and dance before you hysterical troon.
There's still a distinct lack of your nudes anywhere btw, you really should get those prior claims proven before actually making new ones that are totally hot fresh takes.

I know you guys think, "Oh this is a board for ridicule, do you even know where you are?"

But this isn't unique to Kiwi Farms at all. This is actually surprisingly common.

I mean, this same shit of people attacking each other's motives instead of attacking each other's arguments has been poisoning online discourse for the past couple decades. It happened all the time on boards I frequented before.

It's not like Kiwi Farms is a special, unique tree house where ridicule trumps argument. That's basically everywhere.
 
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Congratulations on figuring out Kiwi Farms isn't the only wiki that categorizes lolcows, you want a medal?

Does that excuse you from not knowing the specifics of the MULTIPLE shit you want to be a part of?

lolno.
Still no nudes tho.
 
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No, I mean, even among forums that are ostensibly meant for debating rather than categorizing lolcows, this particular style of rhetoric - of attacking people's motives and credibility without ever engaging with the source material - is alarmingly common, not to mention plainly hideous.
 
No, I mean, even among forums that are ostensibly meant for debating rather than categorizing lolcows, this particular style of rhetoric - of attacking people's motives and credibility without ever engaging with the source material - is alarmingly common, not to mention plainly hideous.

Well then good luck on your travels, if your work is as significant as you believe, you are wasting valuable time here.
 
N-NO YOU BAKACHAN
A clever and apt retort, and totally not missing the point.
Does that excuse you from not knowing the specifics of the MULTIPLE shit you want to be a part of?

It's cute you think copying everything I do is somehow an intelligent thing to do and totally not the equivalent of a toddler tantrum tho. It'll totally work this time honest.
 
No, I mean, even among forums that are ostensibly meant for debating rather than categorizing lolcows, this particular style of rhetoric - of attacking people's motives and credibility without ever engaging with the source material - is alarmingly common, not to mention plainly hideous.
It would help if your 'source material' wasn't nearly incomprehensible word salad that expected me to read 400 separate articles before I even make it a few paragraphs into the continent-sized post, just so you can prove that according to some extremely rare circumstance that occurs in 1 in 10,000,000 lab mice exclusively born in a controlled environment on the space station, this virus will cause your dick to explode.

I don't think anyone here even understands what your point is anymore, and I don't think that you do either.
 
I showed my work, in numerous places. The proof of my understanding of this topic is contained in literally everything I've written about it. I received endorsements from PhD biologists, immunologists, et al., and I also asked them to review my work and make sure I was on the right track. I did not push experts aside. I deferred to experts.

Everyone with a biology-related degree that I've passed my information to has reacted with something along the lines of, "Wow, this is amazing, thank you!"

Everyone with a non-biology-related degree that I've passed my information to has reacted like, "You're not a doctor or an expert, how dare you?!"

So, yeah. There's a substantial disparity there, in that actual experts in the topic in question have lauded my work.

I completed a basic draft of my review of the papers, by the way. It ended up being shorter than I thought it would be. A couple pages, but a good 51 citations.

Here it is. The first draft of my “thesis”. 🤣


Huh, well. That’s interesting. COVID-19 pathology is basically a dead ringer for SARS, with a couple exceptions.

Now, why aren’t more studies examining the possibility of systemic vasculitis? That one passage that @Spedestrian quoted was not a specific finding of vasculitis independent of lung parenchymal damage; it was secondary to it.

In other words, they noted that the lung tissue was damaged and the blood vessels inside happened to be damaged as well. They didn’t actually go “Hey, this is vasculitis. Where else is the vasculitis?”

Systemic vasculitis can cause hypoxemia, dry cough, and pneumonia. I drew a comparison with polymyalgia rheumatica, an autoimmune disorder which produces very SARS-like symptoms.

In short, there needs to be more examination of blood and blood vessels with this thing. Way more.



There’s an article I think you should see. They already ran the numbers.


The delay-adjusted mortality of this thing is basically the same as SARS. It starts off at about 5 to 7 percent and skyrockets to 20% if hospitals get overwhelmed.

This means that of the 425,000 cases in the US, 20k to 80k will probably die.

The time lag between infection and death is, indeed, massive. This makes it difficult to estimate anything like a final mortality rate. All I know is that this thing is way, way deadlier than the flu, by far.
Aside from your inability to understand the difference between "this Will happen" and "this COULD happen", I have a question for you.

WHEN this disease turns out to only have a <1% fatality rate, will you eat crow and admit you are fucking re.tarded? Or will you come up with some bizarre reverse math to prove your point? Go full conspiritard on millions of hidden deaths?
 
It would help if your 'source material' wasn't nearly incomprehensible word salad that expected me to read 400 separate articles before I even make it a few paragraphs into the continent-sized post, just so you can prove that according to some extremely rare circumstance that occurs in 1 in 10,000,000 lab mice exclusively born in a controlled environment on the space station, this virus will cause your dick to explode.

I don't think anyone here even understands what your point is anymore, and I don't think that you do either.


I can condense it down. Make it real simple.

There are three possible mechanisms with COVID-19 that could be causing vascular issues. Systemic vasculitis, vasoconstriction, and/or porphyria, all of which can cause abnormal coagulation and also harm oxygen exchange.

In short, the reason why the majority of the patients going on the ventilator are dying is because the ventilator isn't actually doing anything. It's inflating the alveoli, sure, but there's no oxygen exchange occurring, because:
  • The blood vessels are inflamed.
  • The blood vessels are excessively constricted.
  • The patient has hemolytic anemia.
  • Quite possibly, all of the above.
When patients come into the ER with this virus, they are often described as having "silent hypoxemia". They have no lung signs that can be heard on a stethoscope. They have no pneumonia on CT. However, if you put a pulse oximeter on their finger, they are dropping to 80%, and then 70%, and then turning blue in the face.



This is a blood and vascular disease that causes pulmonary, cardiac, renal, reproductive, and neurological manifestations, not the other way around.

Fever and dry cough are common with this thing, so taking someone's temp will always be useful, but I'm starting to think that the best way to screen patients to check for COVID-19 might be to have them use whatever SpO2 sensors they can get their hands on, like using their smartphone as a pulse oximeter, checking themselves frequently for hypoxemia, and immediately calling their doc if they drop below 90% while breathing normally.

Note that I'm not alone in thinking this:



Aside from your inability to understand the difference between "this Will happen" and "this COULD happen", I have a question for you.

WHEN this disease turns out to only have a <1% fatality rate, will you eat crow and admit you are fucking re.tarded? Or will you come up with some bizarre reverse math to prove your point? Go full conspiritard on millions of hidden deaths?

No. If COVID-19 turns out to have a <1% fatality rate, I will shut up, and I will be silently pleased that millions of people didn't die from this disgusting disease.
 








Ah yes Yahoo and Imgur.
A truly pioneering field in academia.
Someone else do the youtube one. I'm lazy.

No. If COVID-19 turns out to have a <1% fatality rate, I will shut up, and I will be silently pleased that millions of people didn't die from this disgusting disease.
Yes you totally didn't go to /pol/ and gloat about how you were right after 7 years of doomer faggotry.
 
@Drain Todger What are your thoughts on sexual reassignment surgery? Since you're a woman, I'm assuming you cut your AMB cock off and replaced it with a beautiful, natural looking neovagina. What was that process like? Does your new vagina place you in a higher risk group for dying from wuflu?

My thoughts on SRS are that it scares the fuck out of me, because one time, I had a teeny little wedge resection on the margin of one of my big toes, and I got an infection so bad, I had 108 degree fever and red streaking lymphangitis up my fucking leg and needed a shot of Keflex in the ass. The very idea of someone digging into your urogenital area, hacking it to pieces, and sewing it back up in a totally different configuration is a Frankensteinian abomination that makes my guts churn. Scientists and doctors have really let transgender people down. They're selling people a bill of goods. A piercing is not the same thing as having functional genitals.

I'm holding out for Altered Carbon or Cultureverse-type shit, to be quite honest with you. Morphological freedom should be a thing. If someone wants to be the opposite sex, or an actual furry, or whatever the fuck, they should be able to literally do that, not just play pretend. There will come a time, perhaps in a matter of centuries from now, when morphological freedom will be considered a fundamental right, and when the methods currently used to achieve it will be considered as primitive and barbaric as trepanning.


The idea that someone is born human, lives as a human, and then dies as a human is basically a form of biological tyranny. Why should anyone just accept themselves the way they are, if they could be made closer to their ideal self-image with technology?
 
My thoughts on SRS are that it scares the fuck out of me, The very idea of someone digging into your urogenital area, hacking it to pieces, and sewing it back up in a totally different configuration is a Frankensteinian abomination that makes my guts churn. Scientists and doctors have really let transgender people down. They're selling people a bill of goods. A piercing is not the same thing as having functional genitals.
Well at least you have your head on straight here.

I'm holding out for Altered Carbon or Cultureverse-type shit, to be quite honest with you. Morphological freedom should be a thing. If someone wants to be the opposite sex, or an actual furry, or whatever the fuck, they should be able to literally do that, not just play pretend. There will come a time, perhaps in a matter of centuries from now, when morphological freedom will be considered a fundamental right, and when the methods currently used to achieve it will be considered as primitive and barbaric as trepanning.
AAANNND youve gone off the deep end again. Morphological freedom is just the freedom to fuck up your body as you see fit. It doesnt mean LITERAL MORPHING. Did you even read the article you linked?

As for cultureverse, bud, you'll never see it. The best AI are at rat level intelligence, and MIGHT hit dog level by 2050. Getting to human level, barring some massive leap in computational power, will take millennia. Getting to the level of cultureverse novels is physically impossible, especially with current physical limitations.

Butchery is the closest you'll ever get. You cant turn a XY chromosome into a XX chromosome and magically become a WHAMEN.

The idea that someone is born human, lives as a human, and then dies as a human is basically a form of biological tyranny. Why should anyone just accept themselves the way they are, if they could be made closer to their ideal self-image with technology?
No, the idea you are human is basic biology. You should accept yourself for who you are because chasing the dragon to make yourself into some autistic image never ends well. That type of action is called body dysphoria, and its never enough, if you could tinker with your body you will never be happy with the results. See also every artist that tries to improve a previous creation.

The inability to relate to your physical body is not an indication we need to modify your body, its a sign of severe mental illness.
because one time, I had a teeny little wedge resection on the margin of one of my big toes, and I got an infection so bad, I had 108 degree fever and red streaking lymphangitis up my fucking leg and needed a shot of Keflex in the ass.
At 104F you start to see permanent brain damage, at 107 you see mass death of neurons in the brain as well as permanent organ damage. This explains a LOT about your inability to process, well, any counterargument given to you and your not even surface level understanding of statistics, philosophy, and humanity in general.
 
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I'm actively mocking you when I do this you socially moronic ape. Your poor attempt at mimicry just proves that you are too retarded for life itself, given that I do this because your longwinded doom posts have absolutely no value. You despite getting your entire shit wrecked by an actual data analyst keep it up, and I'd rather the people not have to see that nigh unreadable and kackhanded cherrypicked shit more than once.

You do what I'm doing because you're basically just operating on mirror neurons, thinking this is how the normal site works. At this point I suspect you probably think the fat tard in the mirror is someone else, making you dumber than elephants, dolphins, apes, and parrots.

Also hilarious you think 1k words, 1/4th of which is just the abstract, is a lot. No it isn't; it's just about 2 pages, meaning you only did over the course of this pathetic attempt to LARP as a scientist and smart person about 1.5 pages. This was considered a "light" paper when I was getting an Associate's in a softer science than virology.

Just lick your doorknobs.
 
Well at least you have your head on straight here.

I see a lot of people in denial about the science, and frankly I'm sick of it. The sheer state of these "treatments" is appalling.

AAANNND youve gone off the deep end again. Morphological freedom is just the freedom to fuck up your body as you see fit. It doesnt mean LITERAL MORPHING. Did you even read the article you linked?

Butchery is the closest you'll ever get. You cant turn a XY chromosome into a XX chromosome and magically become a WHAMEN.

Genetic expression in adults is basically fixed, yes. If you CRISPR yourself or use SiRNAs to modify your genetics or protein expression, then you have to wait until new cells populate before you start seeing any change. Different cell lines reproduce at different rates. With some of them, you won't ever see any change. That's why genetic modification is better performed in utero, before the cells have actually populated. Of course, that's its own entire can of worms from an ethical standpoint. Someone might try and make 200 IQ super-babies, and then we have Khan in all his bare-chested Ricardo Montalban glory, and all that.

If you want to radically change your body, you basically have to grow a whole new body from scratch. The process that I am imagining involves the creation of a GITS-like cyberbrain, essentially. First, cyborgify the brain to the point where it can survive outside the body (to whatever extent necessary, including the creation of a substrate-independent mind or SIM), and then create a brainless vat-grown clone of the subject with whatever alterations they desire, and then stick the cyberbrain inside it. Other possibilities include "bio-droning", having one's mind held in a secure location and then remotely piloting a custom body elsewhere. Really helps deal with pesky risks to one's physical form, however, there is the problem of bandwidth. The human visual and sensorimotor cortices produce a huge fuck-ton of data. Transmitting it wirelessly, two-way, without lag, may not be feasible.

None of this stuff is even remotely possible with current technology, of course. I don't know if it will even be possible by the 2200s.

As for cultureverse, bud, you'll never see it. The best AI are at rat level intelligence, and MIGHT hit dog level by 2050. Getting to human level, barring some massive leap in computational power, will take millennia. Getting to the level of cultureverse novels is physically impossible, especially with current physical limitations.

There have been some rather interesting breakthroughs in computational power, as of late, as well as the creation of dedicated neuromorphic chips with some very impressive capabilities. DARPA's SyNAPSE project apparently hit cat-brain-level back in 2011, using a Blue Gene supercomputer.



The new work they're trying to do involves the use of memristors to try and simulate the way human memory works:





Basically, what they're trying to do with this tech is simulate a brain. And if you can simulate a brain, and get that simulation of a brain to talk back and forth with a real brain (via something like a neural lace), it may be possible to significantly expand the capacity of a brain by creating what's called an exocortex.



The tech to do that, to some small extent, is not 150 years away. It's less than 50 years away, if we can just keep civilization from collapsing in the meantime.

GPT-2 is very impressive at language modeling tasks, and it can very impressively feign intelligence (as in AI Dungeon), but it's not intelligent. Not even remotely. It would take way, way more processing power if that were the case.

Can you imagine how much it actually sucks to be a Jehovah's Witness?

You're told, from a young age, you don't have to be anything. You don't have to achieve anything. There is no time limit. So long as you believe, you have forever. You're immortal. So, you can live your life as an ignorant little janitor in a broom closet, and once God's kingdom comes to fruition, you can be everything you ever wanted to be.

The difference with transhumanism is that there is some modicum of actual science to what they're saying, rather than make-believe and wishful thinking.

No, the idea you are human is basic biology. You should accept yourself for who you are because chasing the dragon to make yourself into some autistic image never ends well. That type of action is called body dysphoria, and its never enough, if you could tinker with your body you will never be happy with the results. See also every artist that tries to improve a previous creation.

The inability to relate to your physical body is not an indication we need to modify your body, its a sign of severe mental illness.

Someone shouldn't need to have body dysphoria to want to radically modify themselves. People get tattoos and piercings and all kinds of stuff, and they've done so for millennia.

Why should the body be immutable? What is the argument against using one's body as a canvas?

At 104F you start to see permanent brain damage, at 107 you see mass death of neurons in the brain as well as permanent organ damage. This explains a LOT about your inability to process, well, any counterargument given to you and your not even surface level understanding of statistics, philosophy, and humanity in general.

Happened when I was 15. My mom packed ice around my head, but I was practically seeing shit and wigging out, thinking I was going to die. I probably am a little brain-damaged from that, to be honest. I have found ways to cope and work around it.

Maybe someday, I'll have that brain prosthesis I always wanted. 🤣
 
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