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- Aug 21, 2019
Look guys, we need to have a talk. This is going to a bit long and condescending, but I have a point here.
I know people get off on the doomer "this is worse than governments are saying and we're all going to die," shit but here's the thing. This is not just happening in the United States where you guys have all the CIA cloak and dagger shit.
I live in Canada. The provinces of Canada and the Canadian government have separate and well defined jurisdictions and powers. The Federal government did not create the provincial governments and the provincial governments are not subservient to the federal government. The provinces are created by the Queen and derive their power from the crown the same as the feds. The government of Canada has the ability to force provincial governments to do some things, for example they can implement new taxes, or change the criminal code as they did when they legalized marijuana, but for the most part they have no power to actually implement these directives and it's largely left up to the provinces. We do not, for example, have national health care in Canada. We have 10 provinces, each with their own healthcare system. If I'm from Ontario and I go to Alberta and get sick, I'm not covered because I'm not a resident of Alberta. What happens is the government of Alberta actually sends a bill to the government of Ontario for my care and Ontario foots the bill for my treatment. So you have a system where functionally the provinces are in charge of internal affairs that are handled at a national level in most other countries, and the federal government is in charge of more big picture things like international trade, fiscal policy and the criminal code. We don't even have free trade between the provinces. Going from PEI to Quebec to Alberta feels almost as distinct as going to three different countries in the EU, because the provinces are in charge of so much. This is also why the provinces carry so much debt compared to other sub national entities.
Here's how that relates to the current situation, the response to COVID-19 has largely been carried out in Canada at a provincial level as it almost entirely falls within provincial jurisdiction. The feds have cut taxes and started printing money and have closed the international borders, but the provinces had declared states of emergencies and closed their own borders long before this. The Federal government tried to take control of the response and got told to fuck off by the provinces quite publicly. So the separation of powers in this situation is clear, and we know the feds are not pulling the strings behind the scenes because Trudeau got so publicly cucked by the provinces when he tried to take control.
So what does all this have to do with the doomer shit?
Well, we've established the the provinces operate essentially as tiny nation states when it comes to their own internal affairs. We've established that the COVID-19 situation is almost entirely in provincial jurisdiction. Here's the thing, there are several provinces in Canada that are geographically bigger than most states with populations well under a million. I live in one of them. So you've got these sub-national entities in charge of all their own internal affairs that are just as big or bigger than most European countries with regards to size, with fewer people than a mid-sized US metro area.
Having lived in one of these places my entire life three things are readily apparent:
1) The government is incompetent, does not have the resources to effectively govern and no one takes it seriously. Which is fine by me because when you're outside any kind of municipality and away from a main highway you're effectively living under anarchy with no building codes and no enforcement unless someone calls the cops. All the little tourist places around have all their own little signs they put on the highway. The government decided this looked untidy and passed a law that said they had to be removed and you had to buy these uniform signs through the government. No one listened. The government didn't have the resources to enforce the law. The signs are all still there. Nothing changed. As far as far as I know the law is still on the books with no hopes of ever being enforced. The government asked the public to pretty please with sugar on top do something, we said no, and they couldn't do shit.
2) The government cannot keep anything under wraps. It always gets out. Everyone knows an MHA. Everyone knows everyone. Everyone is related. Everything gets out. The government here couldn't even kill a mentally retarded man in a rural area who was no longer on speaking terms with his family without everyone knowing about it. The government can't handle it's own internal investigation into harassment in the legislature without everyone finding out.
3) The government is nearly insolvent and had to go to the feds after it failed to sell bonds at a favourable rate on the open market.
So that brings us to our current situation. The official government stats as of this writing are 241 total cases, 120 recovered, 6 hospitalized, 3 dead, for a total of 118 active cases. Two out of three of those deaths my mom texted me before the government officially released the new numbers for the day saying something along the lines of, "Oh, so and so died of the virus, he was a volunteer fireman with your uncle."
So everyone knows everyone and the news of anyone dying travels at the speed of light. And then you guys are here telling me this government in charge of the COVID-19 response that is nearly bankrupt, can't cover up of the killing of one of one mentally ill hoarder and doesn't have the resources to enforce a ban on roadside signs, is able to cover up something as significant as a bunch of COVID-19 deaths and more serious symptoms that have been thus far kept under wraps?
Sir, you are retarded.
I know people get off on the doomer "this is worse than governments are saying and we're all going to die," shit but here's the thing. This is not just happening in the United States where you guys have all the CIA cloak and dagger shit.
I live in Canada. The provinces of Canada and the Canadian government have separate and well defined jurisdictions and powers. The Federal government did not create the provincial governments and the provincial governments are not subservient to the federal government. The provinces are created by the Queen and derive their power from the crown the same as the feds. The government of Canada has the ability to force provincial governments to do some things, for example they can implement new taxes, or change the criminal code as they did when they legalized marijuana, but for the most part they have no power to actually implement these directives and it's largely left up to the provinces. We do not, for example, have national health care in Canada. We have 10 provinces, each with their own healthcare system. If I'm from Ontario and I go to Alberta and get sick, I'm not covered because I'm not a resident of Alberta. What happens is the government of Alberta actually sends a bill to the government of Ontario for my care and Ontario foots the bill for my treatment. So you have a system where functionally the provinces are in charge of internal affairs that are handled at a national level in most other countries, and the federal government is in charge of more big picture things like international trade, fiscal policy and the criminal code. We don't even have free trade between the provinces. Going from PEI to Quebec to Alberta feels almost as distinct as going to three different countries in the EU, because the provinces are in charge of so much. This is also why the provinces carry so much debt compared to other sub national entities.
Here's how that relates to the current situation, the response to COVID-19 has largely been carried out in Canada at a provincial level as it almost entirely falls within provincial jurisdiction. The feds have cut taxes and started printing money and have closed the international borders, but the provinces had declared states of emergencies and closed their own borders long before this. The Federal government tried to take control of the response and got told to fuck off by the provinces quite publicly. So the separation of powers in this situation is clear, and we know the feds are not pulling the strings behind the scenes because Trudeau got so publicly cucked by the provinces when he tried to take control.
So what does all this have to do with the doomer shit?
Well, we've established the the provinces operate essentially as tiny nation states when it comes to their own internal affairs. We've established that the COVID-19 situation is almost entirely in provincial jurisdiction. Here's the thing, there are several provinces in Canada that are geographically bigger than most states with populations well under a million. I live in one of them. So you've got these sub-national entities in charge of all their own internal affairs that are just as big or bigger than most European countries with regards to size, with fewer people than a mid-sized US metro area.
Having lived in one of these places my entire life three things are readily apparent:
1) The government is incompetent, does not have the resources to effectively govern and no one takes it seriously. Which is fine by me because when you're outside any kind of municipality and away from a main highway you're effectively living under anarchy with no building codes and no enforcement unless someone calls the cops. All the little tourist places around have all their own little signs they put on the highway. The government decided this looked untidy and passed a law that said they had to be removed and you had to buy these uniform signs through the government. No one listened. The government didn't have the resources to enforce the law. The signs are all still there. Nothing changed. As far as far as I know the law is still on the books with no hopes of ever being enforced. The government asked the public to pretty please with sugar on top do something, we said no, and they couldn't do shit.
2) The government cannot keep anything under wraps. It always gets out. Everyone knows an MHA. Everyone knows everyone. Everyone is related. Everything gets out. The government here couldn't even kill a mentally retarded man in a rural area who was no longer on speaking terms with his family without everyone knowing about it. The government can't handle it's own internal investigation into harassment in the legislature without everyone finding out.
3) The government is nearly insolvent and had to go to the feds after it failed to sell bonds at a favourable rate on the open market.
So that brings us to our current situation. The official government stats as of this writing are 241 total cases, 120 recovered, 6 hospitalized, 3 dead, for a total of 118 active cases. Two out of three of those deaths my mom texted me before the government officially released the new numbers for the day saying something along the lines of, "Oh, so and so died of the virus, he was a volunteer fireman with your uncle."
So everyone knows everyone and the news of anyone dying travels at the speed of light. And then you guys are here telling me this government in charge of the COVID-19 response that is nearly bankrupt, can't cover up of the killing of one of one mentally ill hoarder and doesn't have the resources to enforce a ban on roadside signs, is able to cover up something as significant as a bunch of COVID-19 deaths and more serious symptoms that have been thus far kept under wraps?
Sir, you are retarded.
