Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[Feline Supremacist]

I guess we just see things differently then. But about religious assemblies, they aren't being cut off because the govt. is atheistic and wants to quash religion. It is to prevent people from catching the virus from other worshippers and spreading it to other contacts in the community.

Oddly enough, our freedom of religion is violated in some situations: imagine we were Santeros and we wanted to practice animal sacrifice .... no can do. Or trip out on any number of drugs. Sorry Charlie.

The United States Constitution protects your right to practice Santeria, including any rites involving animal sacrifice. See Church of Lukumi Babalu Aye, Inc. v. City of Hialeah (No. 91-948. You can, and should, read the opinion of the Supreme Court here:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/508/520

No city, town or lower court can interfere with your right to practice your religion in the United States and its territories except under very limited circumstances, mostly involving child welfare, even if that means killing a couple of chickens and goats while you chant in an ancient African dialect and the Humane Society is up in arms. The reason for this, and the Bill of Rights, is because the government has wanted to trample on your rights for any number of reasons, including for reasons of hygiene and health, numerous times in the past. Do you even know what the Mayflower Compact is? The legal foundation of this country is built on the freedom to assemble and worship. Maybe the media and politicians have done a great job of convincing you otherwise but most of us know better.

 

[FlappyBat]

Article from Share News Japan claiming Taiwan has released documents showing China informed the WHO they had 7 cases of a atypical pneumonia in late December 2019.

https://snjpn.net/archives/190561

https://archive.li/uLVVK

Title translates to: Taiwanese authorities release document sent to WHO at the end of December "There are at least 7 cases of atypical pneumonia in Wuhan, China."

Can't really verify anything, but it will be interesting to see if more news organizations begin covering it.

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I forgot there was more than one Coronavirus thread, so I originally posted this in the Analysis thread accidentally.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Article from Share News Japan claiming Taiwan has released documents showing China informed the WHO they had 7 cases of a atypical pneumonia in late December 2019.

https://snjpn.net/archives/190561

https://archive.li/uLVVK

Title translates to: Taiwanese authorities release document sent to WHO at the end of December "There are at least 7 cases of atypical pneumonia in Wuhan, China."

Can't really verify anything, but it will be interesting to see if more news organizations begin covering it.

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I forgot there was more than one Coronavirus thread, so I originally posted this in the Analysis thread accidentally.

I remember that being posted early on but no way I can remember where in a 1000+ thread. The WHO has been been asked about it and they ignore it, change the subject or respond in a way that doesn't answer the question several times. Not one journalist or news org has challenged them on it.

 

[HTTP Error 404]

One can only hope. I got nothing against european black folk. But american niggas need culling!

The White Replacement plan in the US going tits up because all the dindus and "latinx" being too fucking stupid to stay home in a pandemic would be a nice silver lining to this whole mess. Bonus if the pandemic is what finally gets the US to change immigration policy that has been in effect since the 1960s to fight the commies via mass flooding of the US with civilians so the commies can't get'm.

 

[#zzz]

Australia's media is turning a bit.

Even people I know on facebook are sharing this.

As little as 4 months ago the ABC was covering China's soft power pressure on the island nations nearby.

 

[Jet Fuel Johnny]

Can't wait to hear the justifications for these dumbass tickets where you ticketed for standing out on your one porch when you're the ONLY PERSON FOR TWO BLOCKS.

"Well, we don't have the traffic and parking tickets we usually do, so we had to make up the budget shortfall somehow..."

I wonder how many of these tickets are just bullshit ways to try to balance budgets that have depended on cops busting 'law-breakers' for years now.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

Oh so I can blame them for all of that stupid horseshit and Reddit. That'll save me a few extra keystrokes.

See this is why I hate all the sperging about the Jooze, why do you need to blame them for everything when you have people like this who actually deserve un-ending hatred.

 

[Otterly]

Government overreach.
Here in Britain, the police have been threatening to go through people’s trolleys for non essential items. Priti Patel has rightly told them to fuck off with that. It has brought out the worst of the petty local police tyrants thoigh and I think people’s opinion of the police can be damaged further by this, on top of years of thought policing , Twitter monitoring and tranny-pandering at the expense of you know, catching actual bad guys. Brits don’t like being told what to do, and lockdown will work until people are sick of it, which will not be long. The NHS campaign and stepwise introduction along with death rate reporting is designed to make people want lockdown.

I find it interesting that sweden isn’t putting strict lockdowns in place. The reasons seem to be twofold. 1. The demographics and population spread don’t support it and 2. It interferes with the freedoms of the individual in a way that’s unacceptable.

sweden gets a bad press on here and I can understand why, but they’re a funny mix of government control and respect for the individuals rights in a way that I didn’t truly understand until I’d lived there a few years back in the day. The concept is supposed to be statist individualism, a compact between the individual and the state that reduces the dependence of the individual on the state and the ability of the state to dictate to the individual.
There’s a lot of criticism of it (have you seen ‘ the Swedish theory of love’ ?) and the state still does poke into life way, way too much but the psyche of sweden is more complicated than I think is shown in the press.
It’s kind of heartening that at least one country is outright saying that the degree of citizen control needed for total lockdown is antithetical to human rights. And amusing that country is sweden, who h regularly gets slammed for being a bunch of commies

 

[Aria]

Russia reports 2,186 new cases of coronavirus and 24 new deaths, raising total to 15,770 cases and 130 dead

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1249239667637194752

http://archive.li/w9hVM#selection-3033.5-3033.112

 

[Otterly]

All this talk of the anarchy that's going to break out when the hot weather hits... do y'all not have air conditioning? I mean, I don't have it but I'm used to just turning fans on and staying in the shade during the hottest parts of the day. Is this a lost art?

most of Europe is a stranger to air conditioning.

Are strains the same as serotypes? And is this the same thing as mutations?

I'm reading about the problems with the dengue vaccine (the four serotypes?) and trying to wrap my head around antibody dependant enhancement.

A mutation is a change in the genetic code. It can be a single letter change (a single base.) or it can be a bigger difference, but it’s a change. Mutations occur every time a virus replicate

a strain is a genetically distinct version of the code. Let’s say a mutation has occurred and an A base has change to a C at a specific point. We don’t know what they does clinically but now that creation is circulating in a country alongside the original. There are now two strains. Note that a strain may or may not behave differently. It may be random, and it may not cause any difference in disease. It may or may not be attacked by the same antibodies or be covered by the same vaccine

a serotype is an antigenically distinct strain or subtype of organism. It has distinct antigens (sticky outy bits on the surface) that are distinct from other strains. So it will be more likely to look and act and encounter the immune system differently. There may be different strains within this group and there may be different small mutations within them as well.

anyibody dependent enhancement isn’t fully defined, but basically antibodies are created to the first serotype (often called strains in this context) when the body encounters the second serotype , those antibodies are capable of bonding but not inactivating the second strain. Because they bind the virus and the immune cell, they in effect call more immune cells to the field and bring the virus in close. So they’re actually helping viral entry to cells, and the response is stronger. It would be like the police catching the criminals, and instead of locking them up, driving them to the high street jewellers and opening the door.

 

[Ponderous Pillock]

Government overreach.
Here in Britain, the police have been threatening to go through people’s trolleys for non essential items. Priti Patel has rightly told them to fuck off with that. It has brought out the worst of the petty local police tyrants thoigh and I think people’s opinion of the police can be damaged further by this, on top of years of thought policing , Twitter monitoring and tranny-pandering at the expense of you know, catching actual bad guys. Brits don’t like being told what to do, and lockdown will work until people are sick of it, which will not be long. The NHS campaign and stepwise introduction along with death rate reporting is designed to make people want lockdown.

Northamptonshire and Cambridgeshire police get to join the "lolcow Police farce" group along with the petty tit heads of Derbyshire.

If anything, it shows that Priti has her work cut out for her to actually fix the whole national police system. Giving the NCA some actual teeth and officers to handle the gang crime across force lines would be a good start.

Also, Harry Cole (for it is he) has revealed the reality of BoJo's Kiss with Corona-Chan, and it was a lot worse than thought:

HARRY COLE shares inside story of Boris Johnson's coronavirus battle

HARRY COLE: Medics were expecting Boris Johnson to be rushed to hospital three days before he was finally admitted.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Feline Supremacist]

US District Judge Justin Walker of Kentucky overturned a ban on church services that was issued by Louisville Mayor Greg Fischer. The judge described the ban as something out of the pages of a dystopian novel. "On Holy Thursday, an American mayor criminalized the communal celebration of Easter. That sentence is one that this Court never expected to see outside the pages of a dystopian novel, or perhaps the pages of The Onion." He said the city is prohibited from "enforcing; attempting to enforce; threatening to enforce; or otherwise requiring compliance with any prohibition on drive-in church services at On Fire." Walker added "The Mayor's decision is stunning. And it is, beyond all reason, unconstitutional."
(bold and italics mine)
And so it begins, the push against unconstitutional and repressive decrees. This really lifts my spirits. I'm not one to go gallivanting around and when I do I'm dressed in PPE (and so are most people now) but I believe these overreaching decrees are wrong and wholly unconstitutional.

Kentucky judge overrules a ban on drive-in Easter church services

US District Judge Justin Walker ruled in favor of On Fire Christian Church on Saturday and said Louisville cannot put a stop to its drive-in services.

www.dailymail.co.uk

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[Mrs. Addams]

Somebody in my town (LA) is trying to get us to go out and protest today. I doubt anyone is going to show up.

 

[2021Murder]

The United States Constitution protects your right to practice Santeria, including any rites involving animal sacrifice.

No city, town or lower court can interfere with your right to practice your religion in the United States and its territories except under very limited circumstances, mostly involving child welfare, even if that means killing a couple of chickens and goats while you chant in an ancient African dialect and the Humane Society is up in arms. The reason for this, and the Bill of Rights, is because the government has wanted to trample on your rights for any number of reasons, including for reasons of hygiene and health, numerous times in the past. Do you even know what the Mayflower Compact is? The legal foundation of this country is built on the freedom to assemble and worship. Maybe the media and politicians have done a great job of convincing you otherwise but most of us know better.

Tell that to Ramon from Bangbros, he went to prison for awhile for some Santeria bullshit, which is why he went from fucking tight teen pussies to tranny bussy.

The White Replacement plan in the US going tits up because all the dindus and "latinx" being too fucking stupid to stay home in a pandemic would be a nice silver lining to this whole mess. Bonus if the pandemic is what finally gets the US to change immigration policy that has been in effect since the 1960s to fight the commies via mass flooding of the US with civilians so the commies can't get'm.

Mayor Ala Raza's bleeching isn't helping with the whole white replacement either. something like 2/3rds of mixed race people in the country now are hispanic/white mixes of some sort and whether they look like Zimmerman or Fuentes they tend to consider themselves white and end up rather Alt-Right in views. And not buying into the typical "Mah holohoax and Slavery" bullshit is really putting a spanner in the works. That's why there is this bizarre Trad Cath resurrgence in the US now among libs. eventually libs are going to have to chose between blacks and spics, and they're going to be fucked regardless of the decision. Biden vs Sanders essentially is how the rest of the Dem's 2020s is going to go, with Biden "King of black people" vs Sanders "new immigrants and youth" basically leading the party to end up like how it was pre-clintons. Never being able to convince enough people to pick their candidate because whoever they pick, they end up pissing another wing of their party.

Blacks getting destroyed by this disease would really fuck the party come 2020, and this disease isn't really hurting the southwest the way everyone was hoping. Puerto Ricans are basically the Coons of Hispanics and are the main reason crime rates aren't parity to whites. even Libs admit this "accidentally" just go to a state map of incarartion ratios between whites and hispanics, somehow its relatively 1:1 until you hit the NYC metropolitan area, where it shoots up to Coon levels because of the Ricans.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

Brits don’t like being told what to do

Nigger, please.

 

[Silver Chariot]

Somebody in my town (LA) is trying to get us to go out and protest today. I doubt anyone is going to show up.

Anticipating an LAPD brutality story later in the week.

 

[Pokemonquistador2]

sweden gets a bad press on here and I can understand why, but they’re a funny mix of government control and respect for the individuals rights in a way that I didn’t truly understand until I’d lived there a few years back in the day. The concept is supposed to be statist individualism, a compact between the individual and the state that reduces the dependence of the individual on the state and the ability of the state to dictate to the individual.
There’s a lot of criticism of it (have you seen ‘ the Swedish theory of love’ ?) and the state still does poke into life way, way too much but the psyche of sweden is more complicated than I think is shown in the press.
It’s kind of heartening that at least one country is outright saying that the degree of citizen control needed for total lockdown is antithetical to human rights. And amusing that country is sweden, who h regularly gets slammed for being a bunch of commies

Sweden is a country that functions on an extreme amount of Social Trust and mass consent to follow the rules. Think of Minnesota from the movie Fargo. Now think about how two violent outsiders who didn't give two shits about conformity tore through that community, leaving a trail of bodies in their wake. That's the one weakness of a Swedish Style system. No way to protect itself from foreign predators. Which is why Sweden inviting a large group of Africans into its midst is one day going to be seen as a tactical decision on par with fighting a two-front land war in Russia.

 

[Otterly]

Also, Harry Cole (for it is he) has revealed the reality of BoJo's Kiss with Corona-Chan, and it was a lot worse than thought:

that is very worrying. His wranglers need a stern debriefing

No way to protect itself from foreign predators. Which is why Sweden inviting a large group of Africans into its midst is one day going to be seen as a tactical decision on par with fighting a two-front land war in Russia.

Yeah I agree there. The naïveté is amazing. It’s a system that works when you have an homogenous population. And believe me, for all the media there that tries to push a multicultural narrative, the vast majority of swedes are not pleased about it.

 

[Fareal]

Government overreach.
Here in Britain, the police have been threatening to go through people’s trolleys for non essential items. Priti Patel has rightly told them to fuck off with that. It has brought out the worst of the petty local police tyrants thoigh and I think people’s opinion of the police can be damaged further by this, on top of years of thought policing , Twitter monitoring and tranny-pandering at the expense of you know, catching actual bad guys. Brits don’t like being told what to do, and lockdown will work until people are sick of it, which will not be long. The NHS campaign and stepwise introduction along with death rate reporting is designed to make people want lockdown.

I find it interesting that sweden isn’t putting strict lockdowns in place. The reasons seem to be twofold. 1. The demographics and population spread don’t support it and 2. It interferes with the freedoms of the individual in a way that’s unacceptable.

sweden gets a bad press on here and I can understand why, but they’re a funny mix of government control and respect for the individuals rights in a way that I didn’t truly understand until I’d lived there a few years back in the day. The concept is supposed to be statist individualism, a compact between the individual and the state that reduces the dependence of the individual on the state and the ability of the state to dictate to the individual.
There’s a lot of criticism of it (have you seen ‘ the Swedish theory of love’ ?) and the state still does poke into life way, way too much but the psyche of sweden is more complicated than I think is shown in the press.
It’s kind of heartening that at least one country is outright saying that the degree of citizen control needed for total lockdown is antithetical to human rights. And amusing that country is sweden, who h regularly gets slammed for being a bunch of commies

The police stopped me on my weekly grocery run yesterday for playing the car stereo too loudly and singing whilst stopped at a traffic light. I was sent on my way with advice to “be respectful of other road users’ peace and quiet”

Mate, if you only got to leave the house once every ten days, you would be a little demob-happy yourself...

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Tell that to Ramon from Bangbros, he went to prison for awhile for some Santeria bullshit, which is why he went from fucking tight teen pussies to tranny bussy.

You can sacrifice animals as part of an established religious ceremony, not by leaving them to roast alive inside a van parked in the hot Florida sun for hours. Animal cruelty is a crime. For the record I don't agree animals should be sacrificed to pagan idols either but in America that's your right if you practice a religion that calls for it. Nothing in the decision I posted says you can neglect or torture critters before offering them to Saint Dindu.