Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

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I cannot imagine people would be willing to spend a good 2 years in lockdown conditions. Only a month has past since the lockdown went into effect and people are having none of it. I expect riots nationwide if this lockdown continues into May.
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ince I'm not sure where best to mention this, if anyone's curious what the House is up to this month: They're effectively doing absolutely nothing until the 12th of May. The next two weeks were wiped off of the calendar and they have no voting days whatsoever until May 12th. The only thing they've been doing all month is "attending events or meeting with constituents" (District work periods).

Thank you for reminding me that our current House of Representatives are a bunch of useless buttheads.
 

Noem doesn't know shit. I had to drive to work today (I'm on call right now working from home otherwise) and what fucking struck me was the sheer amount of people out and about. Sure, some businesses were shuttered, but that maybe only took out about ~30 to 40% of the usual hustle and bustle. There's still plenty of places open that probably shouldn't be. Her expectation that people don't need to be told to shelter and take this seriously is fucking wrong, especially around here. We're at growth rates seen in NYC during the early stages towards when the deaths started to rocket up. If there's any time to tell people to STAY FUCKING HOME it's now.
 
Michigan, USA

Detroit field hospital admits first 8 Corona patients. It will only be taking the less-serious cases. No one on ventilators.
(archive)

Dairy farms are in trouble. Although demand for milch etc. is higher in grocery stores, schools and restaurants have been closed. Dumping of milch has begun, farmers say.
Michigan Dairy Farms Struggle
(archive)

Lawsuit against Governor Gretchen Whitmer (D)'s shut-down orders, on the grounds that they take property without due compensation
(archive)

SHUTDOWNS
Shelter-in-place order and shutdown of everything non-essential from Tuesday March 24 to Monday April 13. Friday, May 1. (archive) (executive order saved on KF) Travel between primary homes and secondary homes is banned. Gardening sections of stores are closed. (archive - extension). Marijuana shops are open. Tobacco shops are closed (archive). K-12 schools suspended for remainder of year, but alternate learning plans will be implemented (archive) (archive).
The Big Three Auto manufacturers (Ford, GM, Chrysler) are closing all factories in the USA, putting well over 150,000 workers out of work. This figure does not include workers at supplier factories, which will also be obliged to close. (archive) (archive) (archive). They will be making a small number of parts for emergency vehicles, and GM will be helping Ventec, a company that makes ventilators (archive - ventilators). Ford will be helping 3M and GE Healthcare to make respirators and ventilators (archive).

ECONOMY AND MISCELLANY
Unemployment so high that claims must be made on certain days, based on claimant's last name (archive).
Big Brother is watching, and he approves. Massive phone-tracking project reveals Michigan travel down by 45%, compared to 40% nation-wide (website) (news article archive).
Car crashes are down, fatal car crashes are down, and overall death is actually down. (archive - April 12)

FREE STUFF!
Evictions suspended while the state of emergency lasts (archive)
Water will be turned back on for all households while the crisis lasts (archive)

FREEDOM!
Semi-trucks carrying essential supplies can ignore seasonal road weight limits (archive).
Distilleries can make hand sanitizer without a permit (archive).
Pharmacists may prescribe 60 days of emergency medication and may substitute drugs without physicians approval in event of shortages (archive). Various other medical restrictions loosened (archive).
Restaurants can sell food like grocery stores (archive).

HEALTH CARE
Detroit hospitals are at or near capacity and have reached the point of moving patients out to other hospitals (archive - March 30). (archive of Detroit triage plans)
Detroit hospital staff protest unsafe patient-to-nurse ratio. Asked to leave hospital. Still plan to come back to work. (Their video; news article archive)
Hydroxychloroquine banned by governor's order (archive). Nevermind LOL! Now she's asking the federal government for it and claiming the ban was a typo in the first place. (archive). Detroit-area hospitals are testing the drug's effectiveness as a preventative on first responders and health-care workers (archive).
Up-to-date count of available hospital beds, etc. in the State (the Detroit area is "Section 2, North and South". (government website)
Field hospital in Detroit scaled back after drop in cases. Original plan was to open with 1,100 beds. Now they are only going to open with 250, planned to open April 20. (archive - April 11)

LAW AND ORDER
All localities given more discretion to release prisoners early (archive). The State prison system is not currently releasing inmates early.
Lansing (the capitol) police are not physically responding to minor crimes such as larceny, property damage, and break-ins to unoccupied buildings, including garages. Other police are adopting similar policies (archive) (archive).
Detroit crime still down (archive - April 12); Muskegon police report crime is up (archive).
Breaking the lockdown is a misdemeanor, punishable by $1500 fines and 90 days jail time. Governor Gretchen Whitmer (D) has stated there will not be a "ramp up" of police enforcement (archive). The attorney general has left it to local law enforcement to close businesses, as her hands are full with price-gougers and con artists (archive).
The police cannot, at present, pull drivers over simply for being out during the shutdown (archive).

DEATH TOLL

Detroit Metro (pop. 3,860,000 total; 1,796/sq. mi.; 694/sq km):*

21,193 confirmed / 1,477 dead
20,139 confirmed / 1,347 dead yesterday
(i.e. 130 new deaths, up 33 from previous day)
Normal Detroit Metro Death Rate: 104 per day.**

Other Michigan (6,120,000; 65/sq. mi.; 25/sq km):

5,808 confirmed / 291 dead
5,496 confirmed / 255 dead yesterday
(i.e. 36 new deaths, up 18 from previous day)
Normal not-Detroit Death Rate: 167 per day**

All Michigan (9,990,000; 103/sq. mi.; 40/sq km):

27,001 confirmed / 1,768 dead
25,635 confirmed / 1,602 dead yesterday
(i.e. 166 new deaths, up 51 from previous day)
Normal Michigan Death Rate: 271 per day.**

Death toll doubled since: April 7.
We have been locked down since: March 24.

Detroit Metro Daily Deaths Last Seven Days:
93 / 94 / 173 / 89 / 73 / 97 / 130 = 749

State Government site, daily - today's archive;
State Gov site, total, includes breakdowns by sex, age, race and ethnicity - today's archive.
*Here defined as the City of Detroit, and Macomb, Oakland, and Wayne Counties, minus state prisoners, who are not counted towards any county's cases, but are kept in a category of their own.
** As of 2018.

Also one Ann Arbor man allegedly killed by his roommate in a Corona-related dispute (archive). The suspect has been released from custody while the investigation continues (archive).
 
Trump says U.S. will halt funding for WHO while reviewing the organization's role in "mismanaging and covering up" the spread of coronavirus
Just wait until the mainstream media is forced to report on Tedros's leadership of a maoist terrorist group.
 
1-"protesting is non-essential" my fucking ass. Gonna have to go and liberate their slaves a second time!

2-FUCK WHO THANK YOU BASED PRESIDENT TRUMP!

Aside from that. The right wing's redoubled attacks against Fernando Simon are fucking heinous. I told a pal and we're thinking of editing a video highlighting it and asking the pope to declare him the patron saint of epidemiologists (that last part as a joke) so if we go forward I'll send you a copy. I just wanted to mention here. As I mentioned on prior post this mofo's been trying to stop this since he made the plan on 2008, has manage to tardwrangle most of spanish politics for months, avoided multiple massive fuckups by the government, stopped many stupid bouts by oposition and even continued his efforts from the hospital, all the while being the only guy that talks clearly and without bullshit about what's going on. And they're just lumping hatred on him because he's only an obstacle for their deranged political maneuvering. Fuck these people. Just. It's incredible to me how vile political radicals can act. And let's not give the left a pass either because they're not attacking, but they sure as shit ain't defending either, they're just letting him be a meatshield and getting out of the way. He's being martyred, literally and metaphorically, to try and save as many of us as possible. He should be declared a national fucking hero. But like most real heroes, they'll kick him to the curb. Fucking breaks my heart to see this shit.
 
There’s an anecdote about Richard Feynman where he gets shown a blueprint of something and he has no idea whatsoever what he’s looking at and he is asked what he thinks the problem is, and he points at some random symbol X and says ‘yeah here’ and they all scurry off and come back later and tell him that yes, Whatever widget or valve that symbol was Was the issue and that he’s just averted disaster.
Feynman probably did know what he was looking at to a point, but we’ve all (?) had moments where the subconscious pattern recognition kicks in and you just know, without real conscious thought, that the problem is X.

That’s the weaponised autism when it works well. When it doesn’t you end up with a liking for bongos. Or drawing on the windows with a Chinagraph pencil.
Ackshuallly...
It's in his autobiography . From memory, he's being shown the schematics of a complicated control process (nuclear reactor?). The two proud engineers are explaining how everything is double fool proof, that any single component failure has a fallback safety provision . He points at an X at random, and says "What if this valve fails" . The engineers follow it all through expecting to show him the safety , but he's only gone and found a failure point that could have blown the plant up! .
Doesn't change the point you were making, you just triggered a memory. I liked that book when I read it, but later realised he must have been a bit of an arse to deal with, and all these stories were written by him to make himself look like not just a genius, but damm cool too. And so modest, just ask me!

Though seeing your mention of bongos, I guess you've read the book too.
/Pointless Diversion
 
Trump says U.S. will halt funding for WHO while reviewing the organization's role in "mismanaging and covering up" the spread of coronavirus

When's he gooing to stop funding for the presidency due to it's mismanagement? :thinking:
 
Trump says U.S. will halt funding for WHO while reviewing the organization's role in "mismanaging and covering up" the spread of coronavirus

Good. They've been totally useless during this whole pandemic (do they even call it that now or are they still going by their stupid rules as to not offend the CCP?).

At this rate, I'd consider their actions treasonous, but I might be a bit extreme in that judgment. They should still put Tedros in front of a crimes tribunal.
 
Honestly, organizations like the WHO and UN have had it good for too long. The last time UN was ever useful was when they rallied troops to fight North Korea when it invaded the south. WHO was last useful in 1967 when it pushed for the eradication of smallpox.
 
Honestly, organizations like the WHO and UN have had it good for too long. The last time UN was ever useful was when they rallied troops to fight North Korea when it invaded the south. WHO was last useful in 1967 when it pushed for the eradication of smallpox.

There's a reason why the League of Nations was an utterly useless organization: When push came to shove, they allowed dictators to walk all over them for the sake of appeasing their ambitions.

The UN has always been toothless. This pandemic merely reinforced it.
 
While I agree with your point about the growing pushback, this pastor, and many of them who are thumbing their noses at the law, are wrong. There are at least two verses in the New Testament about being submissive to government authority, and Jesus uttered one of them. If the cops were issuing fines when there wasn't a lockdown going on, then that would be the time to raise a fuss. But missing a few services during a pandemic? It's really not a big deal in the grand scheme. I don't see the difference between these church people and any other people who are breaking quarantine. They all need to stay home.
I don't think he was responding from a Christian standpoint - this isn't a "Render unto Caesar" thing.
He's expressing the (once commonplace) belief that Rights aren't issued by the government, they exist outside of that, otherwise they're not fundamental human rights, just local conventions.
It's a right wing US thing to be careful about how you understand and talk about the Constitution / Bill of rights. The Bill of Rights doesn't grant you your rights, it merely enumerates your natural rights you already have, and says this government will not be allowed to trample them . It's an important distinction in my opinion. Otherwise basic rights are no more permanent that minor details of the tax code.
 
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