Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread

Honestly, short of Monica, Jamie, and Chris Rager, most of the KV VAs aren't bad at their jobs. I liked plenty of their work - particularly Sabat. It's just a shame they had to be so petty and jealous that they lit their own careers on fire and trashed all their fan goodwill because they were angry a good Christian boy had eclipsed them in respect to dedicated fans (thus, the real $$$ because of cons)
 
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DeadFry said:
Yeah, but it didn't matter what other people thought of him. He was doing good for good's sake, not for his own selfish reasons.

My point was more for people like Ron, for example. He's constantly saying that he's changed, that he's secure, that he's wealthy, but his behavior tells a different story. Generally speaking, if you are constantly having to say you're good, helpful, insert-character-trait-here then the opposite is usually true.

It's why I will cut a date short if the guy I'm with goes on and on about being a great feminist. That shit is a huge red flag.
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I'm quoting you here, but I'm stating this to everyone in general: always and forever, if you want the truth about what people think and feel, watch what they do as opposed to what they say.
 
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On a lighter note, this thread has gotten 10 million views since it was started.

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cwcvillemayoress said:
As for Sabat being the scum of the Earth, yeah he is the scum of Earth for his petty and passive aggressive tweet about Broly. I think he might also be upset because Broly has become pretty popular since the last movie and this puts a bruise on his ego because Vegeta isn't the focus of the last movie.
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Late but boy oh boy is it storytime from some old sources.

Back in 2012, somewhere at a Midwest con, Sabat did a panel and took requests for fans to engage in prank phone calls for fans as Vegeta. One fan requested he prank called his friend's son as a surprise. So Sabat dialed away at the phone and waited. Once the phone was answered, he put it on speaker for the audience to hear. He asked the boy who was his favorite character from Dragon Ball was. The boy replied "Goku." Sabat starts chimping as Vegeta and kept telling the kid "Vegeta number one!", pretending to panic for the audience as part of the act. The kid just stood by what he said and repeated he liked Goku best.

Vegeta not being the focus of anything might have been enough to have made Sabat chimp or lash out at Schemmel back then. Even if that was improv-acting at the panel back then, Sabat sternly insisting and forcing a kid to change his mind as Vegeta is already a bad sign. Thought that story should be dropped.
 
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Coach Kreeton Of All That said:
Late but boy oh boy is it storytime from some old sources.

Back in 2012, somewhere at a Midwest con, Sabat did a panel and took requests for fans to engage in prank phone calls for fans as Vegeta. One fan requested he prank called his friend's son as a surprise. So Sabat dialed away at the phone and waited. Once the phone was answered, he put it on speaker for the audience to hear. He asked the boy who was his favorite character from Dragon Ball was. The boy replied "Goku." Sabat starts chimping as Vegeta and kept telling the kid "Vegeta number one!", pretending to panic for the audience as part of the act. The kid just stood by what he said and repeated he liked Goku best.

Vegeta not being the focus of anything might have been enough to have made Sabat chimp or lash out at Schemmel back then. Even if that was improv-acting at the panel back then, Sabat sternly insisting and forcing a kid to change his mind as Vegeta is already a bad sign. Thought that story should be dropped.
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So Chris Sabat is put off that there’s someone better than him? Truly art imitates life.
 
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Coach Kreeton Of All That said:
Late but boy oh boy is it storytime from some old sources.

Back in 2012, somewhere at a Midwest con, Sabat did a panel and took requests for fans to engage in prank phone calls for fans as Vegeta. One fan requested he prank called his friend's son as a surprise. So Sabat dialed away at the phone and waited. Once the phone was answered, he put it on speaker for the audience to hear. He asked the boy who was his favorite character from Dragon Ball was. The boy replied "Goku." Sabat starts chimping as Vegeta and kept telling the kid "Vegeta number one!", pretending to panic for the audience as part of the act. The kid just stood by what he said and repeated he liked Goku best.

Vegeta not being the focus of anything might have been enough to have made Sabat chimp or lash out at Schemmel back then. Even if that was improv-acting at the panel back then, Sabat sternly insisting and forcing a kid to change his mind as Vegeta is already a bad sign. Thought that story should be dropped.
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For any non-weeb, I'll make something clear which is ego-shattering for Sabat.

See, the DBS manga rn is both at it's peak rn (in terms of story) & same goes for the MHA (or as I call it, Ma'Cademia) manga & it's spin-off manga, Vigilantes: My Hero Academia, Illegals.

However, because of that, Sabat's fucked for a long while.

Right now in the Moro arc, Vegeta has a huge chance of being MVP, while Goku may potentially take a hard L (which I hope happens, cause it'll be boring if he doesn't). Something which was long overdue since Majin Vegeta, which was basically decades ago. Yet this is the only time Sabat or any other VA doesn't get the chance to play Vegeta & considering Toei has no plan to bring DBS anime back for a long while, Sabat will still play the guy nowadays known as "Goku's snack-tray holder" cause Toei & modern Toriyama can't draw & write for shit.

It goes further btw, cause the arc also has a great moment for Yamcha & other Human Z-fighters. Yamcha is played by Sabat too & just like Vegeta, he won't just play "Goku's snack tray holder", but he'll also play the guy whose existence rn is nothing more than a overused meme which even Toei picked up & memed up, & is also mocked by Sabat multiple times. Not to include, it'll stay like that until the Moro arc gets adapted. The arc isn't even halfway completed yet & the manga is monthly released 1 chapter per month

This also applies to Ma'Cademia too btw, I read the manga & I can assure the next season will have very little All-Might, maybe 30-60 mins of screentime in a whole season, in fact. Hell, even if Bones suddenly think of doing the Vigilantes spin-off (which I would love to see), they can't make all of All-Might, he in total has a screentime of less than 7 mins in the manga & the manga rn has 75 chapters.

Hell, even if he does get a lot of screentime, he & anyone rn can't do anything due to Corona-Chan. The only person with a home-studio & a big heart, is the one they're running a smear campaign against. Best part is, as seen & heard by Monica herself, Funi's not giving them any resources for in-home work & even if he could afford & buy it, I don't think anyone except food corners are doing any deliveries*, so either he goes out himself while risking Corona-Chan's wrath or just be a good-for-nothing & wet-dreams about casting couches & sacred ointments all day.

*I don't know how Texas works so I could be wrong on it, so please correct me on this if you can.

So yeah, Sabat can't do nothing rn except being a snarky cunt & get his reputation worse among anyone who isn't a dubtard or a shill, or a white-knight in general. All that while Moron & Jamie make it worse for him & Funi.
 
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Coach Kreeton Of All That said:
Vegeta not being the focus of anything might have been enough to have made Sabat chimp or lash out at Schemmel back then. Even if that was improv-acting at the panel back then, Sabat sternly insisting and forcing a kid to change his mind as Vegeta is already a bad sign. Thought that story should be dropped.
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I've never really been a DBZ fan, and haven't paid close attention to the dub even though I'm aware it's arguably the biggest anime outside Japan. That said, how BUSH LEAGUE is that dub? You literally have ONE guy playing half the major male characters, that's just idiotic. I'm not even trying to say he's bad at playing those characters (again, I don't give a crap about the show) but why the hell do you DO that?!? This would be like if Jon Favreau was so insecure that if he directed an Avengers movie he wants to play Captain America, Bruce Banner AND Ant-Man.

Seriously, what moron ok'd one guy playing: Vegeta, Piccolo, Yamcha & Shenron as well as 60% of the Ginyu Force. That's the kind of casting you get out of high school kids, because they have no money and only know 4 people.
 
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5t3n0g0ph3r said:
Someone already brought up Vic's lawsuit to DSP's attention in a stream a while back.
DSP approved of Vic suing Monica and Jamie.
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First CWC, now DSP. The Supreme Lolcows are being the most right they ever were in their whole lives. The only other one who would complete the trio of this unexpectedness of this situation would be YanSim.
 
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First CWC, now DSP. The Supreme Lolcows are being the most right they ever were in their whole lives. The only other one who would complete the trio of this unexpectedness of this situation would be YanSim.
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Ironically enough, MundaneMatt is on the opposite side of the fence (because of course he is).
 
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xyz741 said:
I've never really been a DBZ fan, and haven't paid close attention to the dub even though I'm aware it's arguably the biggest anime outside Japan. That said, how BUSH LEAGUE is that dub? You literally have ONE guy playing half the major male characters, that's just idiotic. I'm not even trying to say he's bad at playing those characters (again, I don't give a crap about the show) but why the hell do you DO that?‽ This would be like if Jon Favreau was so insecure that if he directed an Avengers movie he wants to play Captain America, Bruce Banner AND Ant-Man.

Seriously, what moron ok'd one guy playing: Vegeta, Piccolo, Yamcha & Shenron as well as 60% of the Ginyu Force. That's the kind of casting you get out of high school kids, because they have no money and only know 4 people.
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The dub was what it was. A product of it's time with American rock and metal music to push edginess and market it to angsty teens and kids. Sabat had a thing for doing voice impressions. But that was the past.

Gen Fukunaga. That's the guy who okay'd Sabat being on the team. Funny enough, he started out as a disk jockey looking for something big to cash in on. Funimation was the Ocean Group stand-in of the time and everyone happened to be there at the right time when the Ocean Group stopped dubbing the rest of the Dragon Ball franchise for a while.
 
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On a related note for the Sabat thing, I'm starting to wonder if he likes casting Sonny Strait because the guy could easily pass for his brother, right down to sporting the same hipster whatever-the-hell-you-call-it hat. (When I looked at the One Piece cast on BtVA I had to do a double take because for a moment I thought Sabat was voicing both Zoro and Usopp, seriously, look at this: https://www.behindthevoiceactors.com/movies/One-Piece-Stampede/ )
 
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