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Indian police officer's hand chopped off in sword attack during coronavirus lockdown

An Indian policeman's hand was chopped off with a sword and six other officers were severely injured when they were attacked while enforcing coronavirus lockdown measures in northern Punjab state on Sunday morning.
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Barnard said:
Yes, which is why I can't help but dislike most journalist. They either go for clicks or have an agenda (preferably both), then there's the ignorance to top it all off. All too obvious when they're just translating something word for word without any understanding, or poorly covering current domestic events. Either dumb interns or pricks pontificating on Twitter. Might as well be declared non-essential and shut down.

I know about the patients on ventilators (think it's something like one tenth of current capacity, doing well here) but not about that hospital, would love a link here. I did hear they're evacuating one of the large nursing homes and moving patients and personnel to a nearby dedicated hospital, which is nice (better than letting them all die then walking in to count the bodies, which is what they seem to be doing in France). The aircraft from China was probably mostly for show, in which case everyone took the bait, but we do need the masks. Hope they're not the same shitty ones Finland bought.
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Alright, the link to the story, with links to previous episodes inside.
And a summary:
March 17: a doctor shows symptoms, gets tested, waits for the results while walking all over the hospital,
March 18: The doctor is positive, so is a nurse working in the hospital (a ward in another place where she worked gets temporarily closed)
Everyone from the staff wants to get tested, the samples go to the lab in Warsaw which gets closed because of a case there, staff is sent home.
A day later, they are called to work, no PPE is available. The tests come back, 4 nurses that are positive get sent home (after coming to work)
March 23: 10 patients tested positive, the whole hospital is evacuated.
April 1st: no patients in the hospital, disinfection is happening during which someone calls on the laboratory employees who were not informed about it, they quickly run out of the building

Currently, the whole matter is being investigated for endangering the life and health of staff and patients.
 
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Gustav Schuchardt said:
Archive.today doesn't seem to work for pdfs. Archive.org does though

https://web.archive.org/web/2020041...-the-True-Number-of-Chinas-COVID-19-Cases.pdf
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Psst. So does directly uploading it to the Farms.

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It s probably airbourne. SARS spread via shared ventilation (if you look up the Amoy Gardens cluster you’ll see more info.) The distinction between droplet and airbourne isn’t as clear cut as the textbooks will have you think.
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I thought Amoy Gardens was linked to faulty plumbing allowing the virus to spread in sewer gas (as in fecal-respiratory route, rather than respiratory-respiratory route)
 

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EmuWarsVeteran said:
Spain. Indeed the term "mileurista" literallt translated as "person who makes thousand euros a month" is used to refer to the middle class all over the country. I heard about how rent and food costs vary by location but if 1000 is considered poverty line then living costs in america must be fucking abusive.
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They are. Wages have stagnated in America since the 70s but cost of living keeps rising. There’s also income inequality and lowered social mobility.

Current exchange rates say that 1k Euro is about $1,090 USD, which is still pretty much at the poverty line in America. That barely covers rent in most places.

Thanks for the interesting conversation btw, I had no idea the cost of living is so much lower in Spain.
 
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Just sent a complaint to the Department of Justice about what happened in Raleigh, NC yesterday. Included link to Raleigh Police Department's Twitter feed. In view of AG Barr weighing in on the mayor of Greenville, MS having $500 tickets issued to people sitting in their cars worshiping, and the mayor dismissing the tickets, suspect the DOJ is likely already looking into the denial of the right to protest in Raleigh.
 
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Michigan, USA

There is a protest against our lockdown going on in Lansing, as has been already mentioned in this and other threads. May post the news articles tomorrow if anything interesting develops that hasn't been posted yet.
#OperationGridlock

SHUTDOWNS
Shelter-in-place order and shutdown of everything non-essential from Tuesday March 24 to Monday April 13. Friday, May 1. (archive) (executive order saved on KF) Travel between primary homes and secondary homes is banned. Gardening sections of stores are closed. (archive - extension). Marijuana shops are open. Tobacco shops are closed (archive). K-12 schools suspended for remainder of year, but alternate learning plans will be implemented (archive) (archive).
The Big Three Auto manufacturers (Ford, GM, Chrysler) are closing all factories in the USA, putting well over 150,000 workers out of work. This figure does not include workers at supplier factories, which will also be obliged to close. (archive) (archive) (archive). They will be making a small number of parts for emergency vehicles, and GM will be helping Ventec, a company that makes ventilators (archive - ventilators). Ford will be helping 3M and GE Healthcare to make respirators and ventilators (archive).

ECONOMY AND MISCELLANY
Unemployment so high that claims must be made on certain days, based on claimant's last name (archive).
Big Brother is watching, and he approves. Massive phone-tracking project reveals Michigan travel down by 45%, compared to 40% nation-wide (website) (news article archive).
Car crashes are down, fatal car crashes are down, and overall death is actually down. (archive - April 12)

FREE STUFF!
Evictions suspended while the state of emergency lasts (archive)
Water will be turned back on for all households while the crisis lasts (archive)

FREEDOM!
Semi-trucks carrying essential supplies can ignore seasonal road weight limits (archive).
Distilleries can make hand sanitizer without a permit (archive).
Pharmacists may prescribe 60 days of emergency medication and may substitute drugs without physicians approval in event of shortages (archive). Various other medical restrictions loosened (archive).
Restaurants can sell food like grocery stores (archive).

HEALTH CARE
Detroit hospitals are at or near capacity and have reached the point of moving patients out to other hospitals (archive - March 30). (archive of Detroit triage plans)
Detroit hospital staff protest unsafe patient-to-nurse ratio. Asked to leave hospital. Still plan to come back to work. (Their video; news article archive)
Hydroxychloroquine banned by governor's order (archive). Nevermind LOL! Now she's asking the federal government for it and claiming the ban was a typo in the first place. (archive). Detroit-area hospitals are testing the drug's effectiveness as a preventative on first responders and health-care workers (archive).
Up-to-date count of available hospital beds, etc. in the State (the Detroit area is "Section 2, North and South". (government website)
Detroit field hospital admits first 8 Corona patients. It will only be taking the less-serious cases. No one on ventilators.(archive - April 14)
Another field hospital in Detroit scaled back after drop in cases. Original plan was to open with 1,100 beds. Now they are only going to open with 250, planned to open April 20. (archive - April 11)

LAW AND ORDER
All localities given more discretion to release prisoners early (archive). The State prison system is not currently releasing inmates early.
Lansing (the capitol) police are not physically responding to minor crimes such as larceny, property damage, and break-ins to unoccupied buildings, including garages. Other police are adopting similar policies (archive) (archive).
Detroit crime still down (archive - April 12); Muskegon police report crime is up (archive).
Breaking the lockdown is a misdemeanor, punishable by $1500 fines and 90 days jail time. Governor Gretchen Whitmer (D) has stated there will not be a "ramp up" of police enforcement (archive). The attorney general has left it to local law enforcement to close businesses, as her hands are full with price-gougers and con artists (archive).
The police cannot, at present, pull drivers over simply for being out during the shutdown (archive).

DEATH TOLL

Detroit Metro (pop. 3,860,000 total; 1,796/sq. mi.; 694/sq km):*

21,912 confirmed / 1,606 dead
21,193 confirmed / 1,477 dead yesterday
(i.e. 129 new deaths, down 1 from previous day)
Normal Detroit Metro Death Rate: 104 per day.**

Other Michigan (6,120,000; 65/sq. mi.; 25/sq km):

6,147 confirmed / 315 dead
5,808 confirmed / 291 dead yesterday
(i.e. 24 new deaths, down 12 from previous day)
Normal not-Detroit Death Rate: 167 per day**

All Michigan (9,990,000; 103/sq. mi.; 40/sq km):

28,059 confirmed / 1,921 dead
27,001 confirmed / 1,768 dead yesterday
(i.e. 153 new deaths, down 13 from previous day)
Normal Michigan Death Rate: 271 per day.**

Death toll doubled since: April 8.
We have been locked down since: March 24.

Detroit Metro Daily Deaths Last Seven Days:
94 / 173 / 89 / 73 / 97 / 130 / 129 = 785

State Government site, daily - today's archive;
State Gov site, total, includes breakdowns by sex, age, race and ethnicity - today's archive.
*Here defined as the City of Detroit, and Macomb, Oakland, and Wayne Counties, minus state prisoners, who are not counted towards any county's cases, but are kept in a category of their own.
** As of 2018.
Also one Ann Arbor man allegedly killed by his roommate in a Corona-related dispute (archive). The suspect has been released from custody while the investigation continues (archive).
 
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Another video from Dr. Campbell where he muses on the post coronavirus world which he thinks will be less dependent on international trade. The lockdown shows the importance of our contact with the natural world. 'We' need to live in a way which is less exploitative of the natural world. By 'we' I think he means 'the Chinese'. Stop flying so much, video conference more.

Openness and transparency are good, 'unlike early Chinese response' where Dr Li was forced to retract medical truth. Medical professionals need to tell the truth. If we level with people they'll cooperate.

He calls out the WHO for telling people not to stop flights from China. He thinks they 'got it wrong' in the early stages of the pandemic.

Anticipate problems, contingency planning for the next pandemic. He thinks we need to speed up vaccine production.

Don't opt for short term gains like keeping flights running in and out of China in February. A shutdown at an earlier stage would be over by now.

More space between hospital beds, more open windows.

Not much of interest in this video to be honest, but I've already archived it so I'll leave it up. Only interesting thing was that he criticized both China and the WTO, albeit in his usual rather diplomatic way.


 
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It s probably airbourne. SARS spread via shared ventilation (if you look up the Amoy Gardens cluster you’ll see more info.) The distinction between droplet and airbourne isn’t as clear cut as the textbooks will have you think.
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Yeah, this sounds like rampant speculation, and the first-hand experiences I've had with the virus in no way suggest this is the case.
 
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Needless to say, my American Indian (I don't use the Native American PC appellation) reservation dwelling brothers and sisters are always highly suspicious of white mans diseases and laugh at their claims of wanting to help the poor Indians.
Indian health care is and has always been atrocious. This is for many reasons, good and bad. First of all, finding health care professionals who are willing to relocate and live in impoverished, isolated locations serving a population of less than grateful clients is not exactly enticing. Second is the money needed to provide state of the art equipment and testing.(something manufactured in this century would be nice) Third is the unwillingness of both the med professionals and Indians to learn to at least work with each others healing practices. Indians are distrustful of Western Medicine, and Western medicine scoffs at traditional native healers. I will not comment on the efficacy of traditional meds, lets just say that not all of the practices are woo or unhelpful.
I am sad for my little rez, since they are not being compensated in the stimulus package for their casino business. They employed about 50 people and at least this particular Tribal Council has done wonderful things with the profit of the casino business, focused mainly on the tribal school and tribal health clinic. The casino served to really make a dent in lifting its members out of abject poverty and improving the health and education of all the enrolled. Unfortunately, not all Tribal Councils are so good with distributing tribal profit, and there is graft and nepotism in many.

All that being said, I thought I would link a site that has news from various U.S. Indian Reservations, for those who may be interested.
https://www.indianz.com/covid19/
 
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For anyone concerned with phone surveillance because of the wuflu:

Google Play Services can be disabled even on an unrooted phone. All that you need is

1. Slightly older smartphone (Android 7 at maximum with removable battery)
2. Foss apps (they don't use G services by default)
3. Foss replacement for the Google Play Store for all the private code apps that can work without G services
4. A Foss app that limits any type of internet access from apps in your phone and notifies you when any app tries to access the internet

If you ought to use Google stuff for anything then use a sandbox or the mobile websites. Uber doesn't work without G services and you should keep your Bluetooth off (and Wi fi off) when not using it

You may be able to turn off your SIM card too but if you're that paranoid about surveillance then just turn off your phone and take off its battery
 
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James Delingpole interviews a 'lockdown skeptic' called Hector Drummond. I'm pro lockdown for the moment but give it another couple of weeks and I'll probably want it lifted too.

Disclaimer: If you run a major country, lift the lockdown immediately on account of listening to this and your people die like flies then that's on you, dog. Or bitch.

https://archive.vn/vzjYF

Audio only upload because it's a podcast.
 

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Everyone please go and watch this video right now:


"This disease has challenged everything that we believe was right six weeks ago." - Dr. David Farcy.

"I'm concerned that if we continue on the path we're on that hundreds of thousands lungs and lives may be at risk." - Dr. Cameron Kyle-Sidell

"You go into the ER and there are 40 people that need oxygen and they all look terrible, but they can all talk to you."

"And no apparent distress whatsoever."

"You see an oxygen saturation of 45% or 50%."

"It's just not compatible with life to have an oxygen saturation that low."

"This is strange. It's out of a horror movie."

"I've been unable to sleep because I'm trying to wrap my head around this. This goes against everything I've ever believed."

"The paradigm of ARDS is not matching with the patients that I'm seeing. So it's like trying to fit a square peg into a round hole."

"What disease are we treating?"
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It's basically about Dr. Luciano Gattinoni's findings on the two distinct groups of patients (Type L and Type H) of Covid-19 patients in Italy:

Covid-19 pneumonia: different respiratory treatment for different phenotypes?
https://www.esicm.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/684_author-proof.pdf (please do not archive, it has already been mirrored all over the place because as the video says it caused a lot of commotion amongst doctors)
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Actor Tom Hank's wife Rita Wilson (both of them just recovered from Covid-19): "They gave me chloroquine. It had such extreme side-effects. We are part of a study and we have donated our blood. We're waiting to hear if our anti-bodies are helpful in developing a vaccine but also we are able to donate plasma that can be used for other people who are suffering from the virus because we are immune."


So many videos coming out from all over the world, here's a selection for now. I'll post more later:

The German ambassador to India says that Germany is expecting hydroxychloroquine and paracetamol (the latter of which two drugs is gone due to panic buying) from India. Now why would Germany be importing HCQ from India if it was supposedly as useless as the MSM would have us believe...:


The difference between dying from Covid-19 and dying with Covid-19


Public libraries in Canada turned into foodbanks:


France remains under quarantine until May 11th, cafés and restaurants closed until MID JULY (WTF):


Karachi, Pakistan is fucked:


Egypt is fucked: "Egypt's grand mufti issued a fatwa prohibitin the blocking of a burial" and they are also harassing nurses:


Bizarre performance art exploiting the native population's superstitions: "These ignorants are not scared of Coronavirus which really exists, but are scared of ghost which don't exist! I d i o t s "


According to traditional beliefs, the soul of a dead person will stay on the Earth for 46.3 days after the death. If the ties over the shroud are not released after 46.3 days, the body is said to jump out from the grave to warn people that the soul needs to be released. After the ties are released, the soul will leave the Earth forever. Because of the tie under the feet, the ghost can't walk. This causes the pocong to hop like a rabbit. They also have the ability to fly and teleport all around the universe.

Pocong - Wikipedia

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The cold hard fact is that A LOT of people in the West are just as ignorant and they too need to be shown the trick with the waterbowl and the perfume to understand how viruses spread:

 
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