Snowflake Chloe Wilkinson / DissociaDID and Nanette Zuniga / Nan / TeamPinata

[incorrigible shit goblin]

Yeah, I’m wondering where the scientific evidence relating to all of these intricate stories, like Nan having an alter in a coma trapped in an attic and guarded by an animatronic doll. If they knew this was happening, why didn’t the other alters step in? Or was it like an uncontrollable dream or illusion?
Also, I’m wondering why done of Chloe’s animal alters don’t front anymore, like the tiger with the (Jamaican??) accent or the alleged unicorns. I guess they’re “dormant”, but she hasn’t confirmed that.

It’s certainly NOT scientific, but if you look at deprogram wiki (a wiki run by a nutjob from australia, all about mind control and MPD), you can see where they may have gotten the idea. The depictions there are all fantasy and insane shit. It’s all fucking nonsense, but I’ll bet you anything these weird ass innerworlds and comas and whatnot sprung from there.

 

[Negative Nancy]

I don't know why this is not getting through to the folks over on Twitter but saying Chloe/Nin has an "official diagnosis" is not enough reason to believe the validity of her disorder and refuting this thread. There was reasonable amount of doubt raised about her diagnosis on here, the person who gave her that diagnosis is shady to say the least and even if they weren't, it's not like this disorder is backed up by tons of research.

People are really ignoring the signs and refusing to absorb what they read or hear despite their bias, it's infuriating. It's like that Dr. Grande video all over again where Nin's community could not for the life of them comprehend he was expressing doubt about both Trisha and Nin, as well as the legitimacy of the disorder itself.

 

[generalsneezus]

There isn't any. And as with anyone who claims something that is impossible or difficult to falsify, it is so intangible that it is harder to argue about it than it is to argue that reality isn't reality. It's not much different than something like the flat earth theory, tbh. It involves denial of observation. Science, truth, it's based on awareness and admitting that it's a point of view. It's mutable. Denying observation comes from a rigid place; how can you argue with someone who is unwilling to admit their sense of reality may be fabricated or imagined?

Agreed, which makes the that fact people dubious of their stories face so much criticism more baseless. How can they expect to be believed so rapidly if there’s a gaping lack of scientific evidence to back majority of what they say.
I’m all for support of mental health awareness and advocacy, but when youtubers such as Nin are gaining money off of going online, making claims and statements off of things backed by limited to no scientific evidence, it’s borderline scamming.

 

[generalsneezus]

I don't know why this is not getting through to the folks over on Twitter but saying Chloe/Nin has an "official diagnosis" is not enough reason to believe the validity of her disorder and refuting this thread. There was reasonable amount of doubt raised about her diagnosis on here, the person who gave her that diagnosis is shady to say the least and even if they weren't, it's not like this disorder is backed up by tons of research.

People are really ignoring the signs and refusing to absorb what they read or hear despite their bias, it's infuriating. It's like that Dr. Grande video all over again where Nin's community could not for the life of them comprehend he was expressing doubt about both Trisha and Nin, as well as the legitimacy of the disorder itself.

Especially when the only thing she said was that she got an evaluation from Aquarone, but didn’t see a second or third doctor/specialist, and didn’t get further screened, scanned or evaluated by certified experts (not quizzes online). Also, I understand that memory loss occurs with traumatic experiences. However, her parents have to know something, especially if things occurred as early as 3 years old. I think having an honest discussion with them over any details they may know about the “childhood trauma” that happened is the only way to gain understanding, whether they conducted it or not.

Also, big difference between strict and abusive parents. The bop it video was actual mockery of kids who have experienced trauma. The way she looked so disconsolate and upset over this “trauma” of not owning a furbee made me think it was a joke at first. As many pointed out, being a British kid born in the late 90s means hardly any of those existed/happened when she was alive. That video alone raises red flags

 

[TheCluedoSystem/Famo]

Roseworks System on Instagram: “Sorry for the slight miscentering of …

archived 17 Apr 2020 00:00:43 UTC

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Have no idea if that worked but wanted to add after lurking for a while, I have decided that I simply cannot carry on living in this world after seeing this. Is that TMI, oh well.

THIS system has suddenly become aware of a new alter who goes by the name of Nin of which is a factive of our girl Chloe/Nin.

Of course, as soon as this Nin has come to light, they already have perfect communication and she wants to be a part of the online community immediately. Right now. As soon as she comes to be. She's not confused or worried or freaked the fuck out that she's suddenly existing.

Not only that, she has been created/found/discovered/made up due to the drama and is dreadfully hurt and upset, obviously. She is also Nin u fucking IDIOTS.

Also, it's completely normal to have Toothless, the fictional dragon, as an alter. Duh.

I wonder when the cult members will catch a whiff of this and run to their leader reincarnated in the mind of this... Human.
Anyway I'm out, I'm done with this planet.

EDIT: No this is not a suicide note. No I do not have the full cast of Cludeo living in my head. Nor do I have access to the Cludeo board that would've been my inner world.

 

[Beardo]

Chloe seems to be manipulating her cult again.

I have zero doubts in my mind that she's going to use this whole situation to her advantage and leave Nan in the dust. She'll "deintegrate" or make a new OC. I'm also sure she KNOWS she's worrying her fans to get away from being scrutinized.

She's a lot smarter than Nan, I'll give her that. It seems that she's scrubbed most traces of herself on the internet and is laying low, for now. I'm expecting more suicidebaiting in the near future.

 

[pd2jzutg2]

Chloe seems to be manipulating her cult again.

I have zero doubts in my mind that she's going to use this whole situation to her advantage and leave Nan in the dust. She'll "deintegrate" or make a new OC. I'm also sure she KNOWS she's worrying her fans to get away from being scrutinized.

She's a lot smarter than Nan, I'll give her that. It seems that she's scrubbed most traces of herself on the internet and is laying low, for now. I'm expecting more suicidebaiting in the near future.

She’s not manipulating anyone by deleting her things; she’s avoiding us and trying to have some privacy. Everything she’s deleted has been AFTER we brought up looking at it. Twitter was her own doing but I don’t blame her honestly at this point

 

[lamp]

Yeah, I’m wondering where the scientific evidence relating to all of these intricate stories, like

well, there’s none. The tiny, tiny percentage of people actually diagnosed with DID didn’t know they had it. They simply reported ‘blanking out’ or having long periods of time where everything was just black. I’ve not heard any credibly diagnosed person say that they have an inner world with an attic and a basement and 15 hamsters.

(source: psych major. Will edit with published studies or something, i don’t know)

 

[generalsneezus]

Roseworks System on Instagram: “Sorry for the slight miscentering of …

archived 17 Apr 2020 00:00:43 UTC

archive.li

Have no idea if that worked but wanted to add after lurking for a while, I have decided that I simply cannot carry on living in this world after seeing this. Is that TMI, oh well.

THIS system has suddenly become aware of a new alter who goes by the name of Nin of which is a factive of our girl Chloe/Nin.

Of course, as soon as this Nin has come to light, they already have perfect communication and she wants to be a part of the online community immediately. Right now. As soon as she comes to be. She's not confused or worried or freaked the fuck out that she's suddenly existing.

Not only that, she has been created/found/discovered/made up due to the drama and is dreadfully hurt and upset, obviously. She is also Nin u fucking IDIOTS.

Also, it's completely normal to have Toothless, the fictional dragon, as an alter. Duh.

I wonder when the cult members will catch a whiff of this and run to their leader reincarnated in the mind of this... Human.
Anyway I'm out, I'm done with this planet.

Roseworks System on Instagram: “Sorry for the slight miscentering of …

archived 17 Apr 2020 00:00:43 UTC

archive.li

Have no idea if that worked but wanted to add after lurking for a while, I have decided that I simply cannot carry on living in this world after seeing this. Is that TMI, oh well.

THIS system has suddenly become aware of a new alter who goes by the name of Nin of which is a factive of our girl Chloe/Nin.

Of course, as soon as this Nin has come to light, they already have perfect communication and she wants to be a part of the online community immediately. Right now. As soon as she comes to be. She's not confused or worried or freaked the fuck out that she's suddenly existing.

Not only that, she has been created/found/discovered/made up due to the drama and is dreadfully hurt and upset, obviously. She is also Nin u fucking IDIOTS.

Also, it's completely normal to have Toothless, the fictional dragon, as an alter. Duh.

I wonder when the cult members will catch a whiff of this and run to their leader reincarnated in the mind of this... Human.
Anyway I'm out, I'm done with this planet.

TOOTHLESS as an alter? Lord, can the end just come already.
I mean at this point, they’re just non-biologically cloning Nin. What a scientific revolution!
Hopefully it doesn’t turn into a my strange addiction type of thing, getting plastic surgery to look like Nin. Imagine a keyboard-warrior army of 500 Nin look-alikes thrashing every person who questions a single word that heavily qualified and thoroughly studious Nin says.
When in reality, Nin actually has less qualifications than majority of the people questioning her online. Yet some people would STILL take her word over an actual therapist or doctor. Astonishing.

 

[Beardo]

She’s not manipulating anyone by deleting her things; she’s avoiding us and trying to have some privacy.

She knew about this thread too long ago for this to be true. She knew about us when she pulled her first "suicide attempt" - why would she not have disabled things then? This is obviously a manipulative move on her part.

 

[pd2jzutg2]

She knew about this thread too long ago for this to be true. She knew about us when she pulled her first "suicide attempt" - why would she not have disabled things then? This is obviously a manipulative move on her part.

Because the allegations weren’t as serious. Her tumblr disappeared the second someone asked for it yesterday. Her tiktok disappeared the second we brought up her 3 am trauma video again yesterday. She’s not manipulating anyone, don’t be disingenuous and feed into her concern trolls

I think she’s really naive and now realizes that no matter what she says or does it’s going to make it onto here so she’s finally taking the break we’ve been saying she needs since day one. She’s not manipulating anyone, she’s in hiding

 

[generalsneezus]

She knew about this thread too long ago for this to be true. She knew about us when she pulled her first "suicide attempt" - why would she not have disabled things then? This is obviously a manipulative move on her part.

Yeah, I think she’s well aware at this point that anything she says and does can be used against her. That’s honestly her fault for vague posting and worrying a whole community, claiming a suicide attempt saying shes taking a break, JUST to come back on and gain more pity/guilt trip people on tiktok. You would think that one would be actively seeking help instead of tiktoking after a suicide attempt, but ig not.
I definitely don’t want her to take her own life, but this constant cycle of struggling with mental health issues then doing absolutely nothing to seek actual professional assistance and certified advice is setting a gratingly unpleasant example for her audience. Would she encourage someone to just evade a doctor/not seek aid if they have a stomach infection of tumor? So then why, as a mental health advocate, is it ok to not treat mental illness with the same severity as physical illness

 

[Beardo]

Because the allegations weren’t as serious

That's the point. If she cared about her privacy like you suggested, she would have deleted her stuff a lot sooner. Her teary video yesterday and then promptly deleting everything not even a week after suicidebaiting don't look good on her part, even if you give her the benefit of the doubt.

I definitely don’t want her to take her own life

I honestly doubt she will at this point-I'm more worried about Nan attempting. Nan is in a lot more precarious of a situation, and is directly under scrutiny. She knows she can't blame this on one of her alters and we know she has a history of flying off the handle. I wouldn't be surprised if she legitimately did attempt, and think she needs help pretty urgently.

 

[pd2jzutg2]

That's the point. If she cared about her privacy like you suggested, she would have deleted her stuff a lot sooner. Her teary video yesterday and then promptly deleting everything not even a week after suicidebaiting don't look good on her part, even if you give her the benefit of the doubt.

i mean I can see where you’re coming from but I think you’re misinterpreting her intentions.

 

[randomtranny]

It just came to my mind that Chloe (I refuse to call her Nin) is just as perverse as Nan, just not in the same way.

Spoiler: Not my life story, just speculation

She's invading spaces where actual trauma survivors congregate. Whether they have DID or are making it up to be able to cope, I don't know. But there's a lot of sensitive talk happening. Some are still being abused, or live in crime filled places, some survived human trafficking or violent rapes, and she's invading those spaces and masquerading as one of them unquestioned because someone who's been through that kind of horror knows how painful it can be to open up about it. There's a perverse almost sociopathic aspect to this kind of intrusion. Especially when you put it in context of her using those actual survivors' stories to roleplay online and get cash. She's just as fucked up, but in a different way.

 

[NoWords]

Because the allegations weren’t as serious. Her tumblr disappeared the second someone asked for it yesterday. Her tiktok disappeared the second we brought up her 3 am trauma video again yesterday. She’s not manipulating anyone, don’t be disingenuous and feed into her concern trolls

I think she’s really naive and now realizes that no matter what she says or does it’s going to make it onto here so she’s finally taking the break we’ve been saying she needs since day one. She’s not manipulating anyone, she’s in hiding

This is actually exactly what happened. She is on damage control and trying to stop anyone else on this forum from gathering any other information. Does it make her cult followers say stupid shit like the comments posted above, yes of course. Would they say that shit regardless, yes of course because she would be posting sad messages to sympathy bait.

She is clearly worried about other shit getting out on her because of all the shit that came out about Nan, thanks to this forum.

She lurks on this board, she is well aware of the attempts to gather information.

 

[pd2jzutg2]

This is actually exactly what happened. She is on damage control and trying to stop anyone else on this forum from gathering any other information. Does it make her cult followers say stupid shit like the comments posted above, yes of course. Would they say that shit regardless, yes of course because she would be posting sad messages to sympathy bait.

She is clearly worried about other shit getting out on her because of all the shit that came out about Nan, thanks to this forum.

She lurks on this board, she is well aware of the attempts to gather information.

Exactly, even if she just simply went radio silent without deleting her things, they’d be worried because her fans have no boundaries and are making “interjects” of her into their own deluded systems

 

[NoWords]

Exactly, even if she just simply went radio silent without deleting her things, they’d be worried because her fans have no boundaries and are making “interjects” of her into their own deluded systems

She is also deleting stuff because other people who now contribute to this board are her followers. She is doing her best to stop anything else from being unearthed and used against her. It's clear as day.

That's the point. If she cared about her privacy like you suggested, she would have deleted her stuff a lot sooner.

Because as previously mentioned, the allegations are now much more serious. That first suicide attempt was BEFORE she decided to kick Nan to the curb. She now can see that people are questioning her involvement with the CP allegations.

 

[generalsneezus]

It just came to my mind that Chloe (I refuse to call her Nin) is just as perverse as Nan, just not in the same way.

Spoiler: Not my life story, just speculation

She's invading spaces where actual trauma survivors congregate. Whether they have DID or are making it up to be able to cope, I don't know. But there's a lot of sensitive talk happening. Some are still being abused, or live in crime filled places, some survived human trafficking or violent rapes, and she's invading those spaces and masquerading as one of them unquestioned because someone who's been through that kind of horror knows how painful it can be to open up about it. There's a perverse almost sociopathic aspect to this kind of intrusion. Especially when you put it in context of her using those actual survivors' stories to roleplay online and get cash. She's just as fucked up, but in a different way.

This stance is actually very valid, I never thought about it from that perspective. That’s why lack of integrity and transparency with not just her youtube audience, but with people who have confirmed torturous childhoods and DID is so, so damaging.
Obviously, all trauma is valid and horrid and shouldn’t be compared. But the fact that not remebering tupac dying was considered childhood trauma to her? Honestly offensive and mockery.

 

[heterotic]

well, there’s none. The tiny, tiny percentage of people actually diagnosed with DID didn’t know they had it. They simply reported ‘blanking out’ or having long periods of time where everything was just black. I’ve not heard any credibly diagnosed person say that they have an inner world with an attic and a basement and 15 hamsters.

(source: psych major. Will edit with published studies or something, i don’t know)

There's a bunch of studies peppered throughout this thread, from psychiatric, psychological, and neuroscience academia. I'm honestly unsure how anyone in this thread believes it exists at all other than as you've described it here, after all of the data and anecdotal evidence that has been collected and shared between everyone here.

Chloe (I refuse to call her Nin)

Thread is named Chloe

everyone calls her Chloe

you're one of the only LARPers here that would refer to her as one of her OCs

She's invading spaces where actual trauma survivors congregate.

This has been said en ad nauseam, it's one of the reasons why it is difficult for some of even the oldest members here not to TMI in the thread to express why they are so disgusted with her.

However, to say she is "just as fucked up" as someone who draws CP for fun and convinces actual teenagers online that she is also a teenager is just... stupid. Chloe is selfish and wants to be applauded for overcoming literally nothing and is terribly desperate not to be considered talentless and ordinary. She's not a voyeur, she's just appropriating an experience she doesn't have for attention and money and to get the awards she never got in school. Nan is attracted to minors and sent minors CP. Exposing yourself or your fetish artwork to minors is in a league of disgust all on its own, and isn't far from actual child abuse. It's precursory predatory behavior to sexual assaulting a minor.

But the fact that not remebering tupac dying was considered childhood trauma to her?

On top of the fact that Tupac was murdered BEFORE SHE WAS EVEN BORN