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I would say those words hurt.

If we count words as hurting somebody, then I think we all here have to look at ourself first for either "hurting" or enabling. I personally do not believe in this, in my opinion shit that is said on the internet and internet alone without any rl involvement (unlike a threat), means fuck all. If I call you an asshole in a chat or a stream, it's something else than telling it to you in your face (not that I would give a shit either way). That said, of course it was an asshole move by Phil. tl;dr: Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never break me.
 
I would have to disagree somewhat.

What about that guy who was a fan and when Phil was complaining about how bad his life was because Leanna left he had to cook his own food. The guy said his brother died and he was able to still cook, clean, and go to work. Phil went on a rant insulting and accusing him of being a liar. I can't say for sure, but since WarDawgLeader left Phil to become a detractor, I would say those words hurt.

Did Howard seem hurt in his rantings about how Phil wronged him? He had more than a handful of bad experiences with Phil. I would say he was hurt.

Leanna? She smartened up. She wasn't hurt, she dumped him.

SpawnSeats? The guy closed up shop overnight after being associated with Phil. Has he moved on, I don't know. Was he hurt? I would say so.

The guys who made EVO Hell, Phil's detractors gave them hell. Indirectly I would say be associated with Phil hurt them.

Who else? Did that Dutch couple get hurt because of Phil? The wife's snatch was doxed with a child's baseball bat. Respect the Pact? He didn't pay them and they disappeared. The Sons of Kojima? We can blame it all on Freddy Boy, but they wouldn't have gathered unless Phil existed. Vidar? He was at one time Phil's brightest white knight and Phil threw him under the bus.

The memories of his deceased friends and colleagues? Has Phil besmirched their reputations?

And Kat. Has Phil hurt Kat by being dishonest with his debts? Who knows. Has he hurt her by putting her on parade in front of trolls? Most definitely. Has he told stories of her poor cooking? Did he ever say she needed a month to figure out the route to work, a half a mile away? Did he refer to her as a second income? Did he say, as a plus, her hobbies were cooking and cleaning? He has hurt her reputation.

Phil's hands are not clean.

In my opinion Phil has hurt multiple parties.
I mean sure. But those are some fairly benign things. Shit talking his HS friends on his irrelevant stream?

Really? He hurt VIDAR? The Norgewegian, alcholic, psychotic vampire? He hurt him? Sons of Kojima? Lol.

His main fault isn't that he's hurting others because that would require people who care for him, his issue is that he is a gigantic dick. We can acknowledge that and say he's a shit head for it without people actually crying or whatever because of it.

Phil is a whiny bitch, what you can call him out for his how he treats his actual past friends/gfs like Leanna, How & Rambo, his parents etc., and how he manipulates the wheelchairs for $$$
 
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Seeing as i don't want to watch his playthrough when its not through a restream can anyone tell me if he fought the Hell House in FF7R yet?
Only thing he fought today was getting out of bed. :story:

Or like his Patreons who waited for Project 7.
I could argue they may have paid him to make it stop.
 
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Leanna? She smartened up. She wasn't hurt, she dumped him.
If Dark was anywhere near as much of a piece of garbage during that one panic attack incident as we think he was, then that must have hurt quite a bit. It was the realisation that your boyfriend cares more about the hospital food than you, as evidenced by his rather elaborate description of said food.
"Next time this happens just give her a pill and that's it." Christ Almighty.
 
I would have to disagree somewhat.

What about [...]

Phil's hands are not clean.

In my opinion Phil has hurt multiple parties.

I'm talking about criminally hurt. Phil hasn't committed any crimes or done anything for which people could sue for damages (not counting his creditors taking action to get their money back).

You're on a forum where it's hypocritical to cry that words cause damage. I don't believe you care about the welfare of anybody on your list above, so it can't be your most honest reason for hating DSP.

Just to be clear, I'm not defending Phil at all. He behaves like a toxic asshole daily. He deserves our passive contempt. Thankfully he's just an asshole sitting in his house playing videogames all day. He has nothing interesting or motivating to say about any subject. He's too lazy, dumb and cowardly to have political opinions. He's too contemptible to take seriously. As I said, Phil's most harmful behaviour is manipulating mentally vulnerable people out of their money. However, it's up to Twitch to protect vulnerable users of their platform from predatory streamers, and so far Twitch have not chosen to remove Phil.
 
I'm talking about criminally hurt. Phil hasn't committed any crimes or done anything for which people could sue for damages (not counting his creditors taking action to get their money back).

You're on a forum where it's hypocritical to cry that words cause damage. I don't believe you care about the welfare of anybody on your list above, so it can't be your most honest reason for hating DSP.

Just to be clear, I'm not defending Phil at all. He behaves like a toxic asshole daily. He deserves our passive contempt. Thankfully he's just an asshole sitting in his house playing videogames all day. He has nothing interesting or motivating to say about any subject. He's too lazy, dumb and cowardly to have political opinions. He's too contemptible to take seriously. As I said, Phil's most harmful behaviour is manipulating mentally vulnerable people out of their money. However, it's up to Twitch to protect vulnerable users of their platform from predatory streamers, and so far Twitch have not chosen to remove Phil.

Wonder what would happen if he got dropped from Twitch
 
Wonder what would happen if he got dropped from Twitch
He'd spend the first 5 months streaming on YouTube constantly ranting about how he did nothing wrong, and Twitch are dumbfuck idiots that don't know how to run their business. Also, the ban was a mutual decision and he'd been thinking of switching to YouTube anyways because it's the superior streaming platform dood.
 
Probably nothing since the ♿ would just superchat him instead of cheering. Tips stay the same.
I'm in the position it'll be the other way around because the nature of twitch badges and emotes goes with his wheelchairs like retards and Blues Clues, they can't get enough of their shineys and pigroach lean-in emotes and having to work your way back into earning those on youtube would be too much for most to try to get back.
 
I'm in the position it'll be the other way around because the nature of twitch badges and emotes goes with his wheelchairs like exceptional individuals and Blues Clues, they can't get enough of their shineys and pigroach lean-in emotes and having to work your way back into earning those on youtube would be too much for most to try to get back.

Yeah, even if he maintained the tips, he's still looking at a loss of around $2500-3500 a month. It would cripple him because he has no safety net set up.
 
In terms of income what amount are we looking at in loss if he was forced back on to YouTube ?
Unlike cheers, which DSP gets 100% of (Twitch charges the 40% fee on the user who purchases the bits to cheer with), YouTube takes 30% of all SuperChats he makes. His audience wants to throw $100 at him? DSP is only seeing $70 of that. The minimum you can super chat is $1, and of that DSP will only see 70 cents. All those 50 bitch ears he gets throughout a night that add up won't be there anymore.

YouTube DOES have Memberships, which function very similarly to Subscriptions on Twitch. However, you get a more favorable split on the income here ( 70/30 in your favor, so a $5 Membership works out to be $3.50 to you and $1.50 to YouTube) However, the # of emotes you get are directly related to the amount of Memberships you have on your channel.
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Additionally, YouTube wants you to offer something for your Members. For example, a behind the scenes video, or a Members only stream. I do multiplayer games with my Members, for example. That requirement will force DSP out of his comfort zone. It can't be "oh Member's only chat, or a chat badge, or emojis" because those are already offered by the default level at YouTube.
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(Must deliver on all perks you offer will be a hard requirement, too)
You can offer Memberships at different prices now, you aren't locked into the 5/10/25 tiers that Twitch forces. You can go as low as $1 for a Membership, or as high as $100.
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On YouTube streams you can still run ad breaks to your audience, and monetize the stream to play an ad when someone first tunes in.

But, the tip goal vest streak is all through Streamlabs. DSP will probably push his audience even more to donate through his PayPal/StreamLabs because YouTube takes a 30% cut of everything.

He'd lose gifted subs, he'd lose Prime subs, and he'd lose sub-dollar cheers. He'd probably get more viewers though.
This is correct, no gifted subs, no Amazon Prime freebie subs.
He would absolutely get more viewers. Twitch dominates the streaming market, and is therefore extremely saturated. DSP would have WAY less competition on YouTube, especially if he is able to bring over 300-400 viewers. He might hit YouTube's Live Recommended page.

Plus, as he talks about how shitty Twitch is for only allowing him to stream in 5000 kbps but he "records" in 9000 kbps locally, he wouldn't have to reupload the streams. The VODs will go straight to his channel, he could do "stream only" in OBS which will be less strain on his laptop (not streaming and recording), and he can go as high as 51,000 kbps for YouTube (that's 4k at 60 FPS). Plus he doesn't have to babysit the uploads, retype a title, put in tags or a description, as that's all set when you start the stream.

TLDR: YouTube takes 30% of Membership and Superchats, but I believe a bulk of his earnings is through tips, so it would be a wash. IMO YouTube streaming offers way more services than Twitch and would make DSP's life easier/lazier for his content.

EDIT: DSP averages about ~166 gifted subs a month over the last year, which if they're all Tier 1 comes out to be about $415.63 a month.
DSP averages ~215 Prime subs a month over the last year, which is about $537.29 a month. Losing both of those would be a hit of just under $1000 a month.
If he gets every Tier 1 sub to pay for a $5 Membership on YouTube, he would get about $1003.33 a month, versus the ~$716.67 he gets for all the Tier 1 subs on Twitch. Not enough of an increase to make up for the loss of gifted/prime subs.
 
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