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You are arguing against a disingenuous straw man (granted, not built by you). Anyone who would be too poor to pay for the ID would also qualify for government assistance. Can't get this assistance (or buy alcohol, medicine, drive a car etc) without government issued ID and would have bigger problems and screaming about starving and not getting their food stamps.
So no, poor people would not be deterred from voting by voting ID laws. Democrats oppose voting ID requirement since they get illegals vote en mass for them and they bus people around to vote in multiple polling stations.

Exactly. There were a few informal studies done on this a few years ago. Pretty much every single inner city black person in the US has a photo ID. They will happily show it to you. They are not morons. And Photo ID is needed to access government benefits. The only people who cannot get State Issues Photo ID's are ILLEGAL ALIENS. That's what the whole "attempts at voter supression" strawman is all about. Allowing non citizens to vote for Democrats.
 
Roll the dice is more like it IMHO. At negative numbers, they are paying you to take it. But as the article elaborates, you have to pay to store it somewhere and you can see how those prices skyrocketed.

Add to the dice roll that we don't really know that Ms. Chan will be kissed and tucked neatly into bed by fall. Or, what the new normal will be as far as daily oil usage will be. I suspect it will stay well below previous usage even as things open back up. Isn't like flipping a light switch back on.

So, I'm more inclined to see it all as a gamble rather than an investment bubble. But even gambles can have a huge payout. Do you feel lucky?
Under normal circumstances the market is like playing roulette in Vegas, mainly because of day traders and ultra high volume algorithmic traders trying to speed hack the system.

Actual investing is 6 months and longer, based on people.
As an example, what are the chances that people will spend the next 6 months locked down and not say 'fuckit'?
If the answer in your mind is zero chance, then you need to look for stablish companies people depend on in normal times and are heavily under valued because the day traders dumped the stock after one too many doomer streams/TV shows, invest and forget about it until 2 to 6 months after shit goes back to normal.

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Again, like the previous week, the "Deaths with Covid mentioned on the death certificate" is less than the increase above the normal rate. You'd expect it to be more than the increase , as some of the old folks deaths must be replacements that would have happened anyway.
So what is going on? Dying by Covid, but not getting recorded as such? Or dying for other reasons, i.e. Healthcare disruption, economy disruption, Lockdown madness?

18,516 - Weekly deaths
10,520 - usual weekly deaths
6,213 - Deaths directly mentioning Covid

Weekly death figures are the interesting pure data. "Covid Deaths" can be recorded very differently between different countries. As can Numbers of infected. But anywhere except China, the overall death rate will be there for all to see.
The UK is Up 60% for W/E 03-Apr, up 80% for W/E 10-Apr. Have other countries' posters got equivalent figures from their ONS?

Again, the spreadsheet has a lot of data on different tabs for analysis. Age breakdown for instance. We still have not lost anyone under 15 years old, and only 5 people aged 15-19.

How many of those deaths are NHS staff drugging up the elderly and letting them die so they have time to deal with younger sick people?
 
Exactly. There were a few informal studies done on this a few years ago. Pretty much every single inner city black person in the US has a photo ID. They will happily show it to you. They are not morons. And Photo ID is needed to access government benefits. The only people who cannot get State Issues Photo ID's are ILLEGAL ALIENS. That's what the whole "attempts at voter supression" strawman is all about. Allowing non citizens to vote for Democrats.

Have carried a Federal (military) ID since 1974. ID has to be shown when entering the commissary, buying at the base exchange, using base facilities, and as one's Tricare card when getting care downtown. Also shown to establish identity/rank in order to get on base. Use mine when flying. Matter of fact, any time I am asked for ID, always proffer the military ID. Only provide driver's license when specifically asked to do so.
 
How many of those deaths are NHS staff drugging up the elderly and letting them die so they have time to deal with younger sick people?
Medication is pretty closely watched these days (thanks to the shipman/allit type cases.) the days of giving the very elderly with likely terminal pneumonia a bit too much morphine to die peacefully are long gone. Now they suffer to the end, because we are so progressive.
There are genuine issues with food and water provision in some care homes though. Basic nursing care is often seriously lacking, and patients not helped to eat and drink. When they’re short staffed then that’ll worsen.I can imagine deaths due /exacerbated by neglect, but I don’t think there will be any number of deliberate drug related deaths.
 
Average Reddit post

Expert no one had ever heard of says, "Mortality rate is 2,000%, Lockdowns must continue for 37 years, 50 gajillion will die, if you want to leave your house ever you're a libertarian and everyone hates you"

"Wow, finally someone speaks the truth!"

"I hate Sweden and I hope they die!"

Updoots to you my sir

327 golds
 
Have carried a Federal (military) ID since 1974. ID has to be shown when entering the commissary, buying at the base exchange, using base facilities, and as one's Tricare card when getting care downtown. Also shown to establish identity/rank in order to get on base. Use mine when flying. Matter of fact, any time I am asked for ID, always proffer the military ID. Only provide driver's license when specifically asked to do so.
For a while the only ID I had was my US Passport and because it was a replacement for one that had been stolen it had "FOREIGN SERVICE" (edit-it was replaced at an overseas embassy) stamped prominently on the picture page. I don't know why but people became suddenly obsequious after seeing it, even when I should have gotten a ticket I never did (especially since I had no license at the time lol). Maybe everyone thought I was a spook or diplomat, idk.
 
Walked up to Walmart this morning.

First thing you see are arrows on the floor supposedly directing you in the way to walk through the store. Entrances to some aisles have green "This way" stickers and others have "No entry" stickers, universally ignored by customers and employees alike. Also blue stickers on the floor in many places reminding people to stay six feet apart. Most people tend to have a bit of distance between themselves and strangers anyway. Nobody was being hassled for any "distance violations".

Lots of water. Improved supply of paper products. Fair supply of toilet paper, brand-name and Walmart brand. Fair supply of paper towels, both national brand and Walmart. Some tissues and paper napkins.

tard cum supply good, but still a shortage of butter and margarine. Bread supply good. Egg supply okay, one carton to a customer. Fresh meat/poultry supply okay, frozen meat/poultry supply okay, as well. Still a shortage of frozen desserts. None of my Outshine bars.

Was looking for vitamin C for my wife. For some reason there are shortages of many vitamins. Finally found something. Got the other things I needed and left.

From what I have seen, Walmart employees aren't fucking with customers, unlike some Costco employees.

Got back home, ran into some neighbors who have a cleaning business. Their business has gone way down. They have a cleaning contract at the nearby state university. Since no students, no need for cleaning. In the meantime they're out hustling for jobs. They haven't gotten a stimulus check, either.

Tried IRS website's tool to check on stimulus check. Same old shit. "We can't tell if you are eligible based on information we have." And that's all, cannot input bank info for direct deposit. My ass. To be sure, there was a shitload of pressure to get as many payments in people's hands as soon as possible. This means not all features of the distribution have been properly developed and tested. If nothing else, we'll end up getting paper checks. Whatever. Will be glad to see the payment any time and in any form. Just mighty grateful we can do without it, if need be. Am sorry for those who desperately need this payment for food, etc, and have had the same problems we're having.

In the "hoist upon his own petard" department, check out the mayor of Los Angeles, whining like a little bitch over city worker furloughs and city budget problems. Yet this cocksucker has threatened more than once to keep extending house arrest for L.A. Dude, lighten up on the house arrest. Get people back to work and paying taxes. Maybe you won't have such city budget problems. Hope President Trump doesn't give him a penny. NFG here.



I have nothing but the highest amount of contempt for Eric Garcetti. He seems to be one of the worst doomer politicians during this whole bullshit and is threatening that a city built on entertainment won't have live events and concerts again until 2022 i believe. With the city workers being furloughed I hope the public worker unions combined with movie-TV/music lobbyists have his fucking head.
Under normal circumstances the market is like playing roulette in Vegas, mainly because of day traders and ultra high volume algorithmic traders trying to speed hack the system.

Actual investing is 6 months and longer, based on people.
As an example, what are the chances that people will spend the next 6 months locked down and not say 'fuckit'?
If the answer in your mind is zero chance, then you need to look for stablish companies people depend on in normal times and are heavily under valued because the day traders dumped the stock after one too many doomer streams/TV shows, invest and forget about it until 2 to 6 months after shit goes back to normal.

100% agree with this investing strategy. Profit from the retardedness of doomers and day traders.
 
So apprantely the CDC says at a certain point, you are no longer contagious. Seven days from start of symptoms, which is based on multiple studies around the world showing that most people without severe symptoms are no longer contagious after seven days. Does this have any merit or I'm dumb for not knowing how to read? Not sure if this should be archived either.

Exclude from work until
At least 3 days (72 hours) have passed since recovery defined as resolution of fever without the use of fever-reducing medications AND improvement in respiratory symptoms (e.g., cough, shortness of breath); AND At least 7 days have passed since symptoms first appeared

Several AND statements in there. The seven days only applies if you’re fever free for three days plus you don’t have any worsening respiratory symptoms. They should be clarifying what improvement means though.
But basically, that describes the course of the mild illness - short fever and no significant respiratory issues.
The cough can linger for fucking weeks - I’m still coughing but I doubt I’ve been infectious for a long time
 
So apprantely the CDC says at a certain point, you are no longer contagious. Seven days from start of symptoms, which is based on multiple studies around the world showing that most people without severe symptoms are no longer contagious after seven days. Does this have any merit or I'm dumb for not knowing how to read? Not sure if this should be archived either.

This doesn't surprise me if it's true.

Many types of coronaviruses (including the common cold and the flu) are like this. People no longer are contagious several days after the first onset of symptoms, even if they are still experiencing some symptoms.

That said, I would still 100% recommend for people to stay the fuck home for 2-3 weeks if they've been tested positive of COVID-19. The CDC releasing this information may sound like good news ... But we know that people will probably interpret this information as they wish and go out before they are no longer contagious.

Yikes.
 

Predictable outcome. Hoes still mad.
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I sent one myself . No dicks though.
 
Today the Swedish National Health Agency released a report which states as many as 999 out of 1000 COVID-19 cases in Stockholms län might go undetected and that 1/3 of Stockholmers will have had the virus by May 1st. In other words, the Swedish strategy is so effective that 6 182 811 out of 6 189 000 people (the amount of confirmed cases in the Stockholm region is 6189 so far) in a region whose population consist of 2,4 million are thought to secretly have had the virus by May 1st :story:
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Public Health Authority on the figures: "It was just crazy"

During today's press conference, figures were shared that "there is about one confirmed case of covid-19 of 1,000 cases in total". This would mean that there were 6 million confirmed cases in Stockholm. During the press conference, they held on to the numbers - but now they poodle.
- It went completely crazy, says Lisa Brouwers, at the Public Health Authority.

The news came as a point of powerpoint presentation during the press conference, based on a calculation of how widespread the infection was in Stockholm. The figures were taken from a major report released by the Public Health Authority today.

During the press conference, I was given the opportunity to ask follow-up questions about the claim, but the deputy state epidemiologist could not clarify further, but referred to Lisa Brouwers, head of the unit for analysis at the Public Health Authority.

She now says it was wrong.

- It was just crazy.

So you should not interpret it as in the slide, that for each confirmed case there is an additional 999?

- It is not correct, it is a rapidly developed powerpoint which unfortunately does not match.

She refers to the report, page 12, where a table shows how to understand the 99.9 percent. That it gives a figure of how many people are believed to be infected in Stockholm on 1 May.

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For someone who is not a mathematician it is not quite easy to keep up with the table or what the 99.9 percent means.

So when it says 99.9 percent in the report, how should you understand it?
- Yes, I have to refer that question to the mathematician who has done this, because I am not the person to tell.

The mathematician is named Disa Hansson.

- Yes, we have a lot now, thanks to your question, and when you said it I thought "how could we not just think about it". This has gone through so many people. But that's not what the report has produced or so.

She explains that the error can essentially be summed up as one in a hundred, rather than one in a thousand, for April 11.
They have now added a disclaimer on the page from which the report can be accessed (available here) stating that the 1 in 1000 figure mentioned in the earlier version of the summary was wrong, but the current version of the report still states that 99.9% of corona cases go unnoticed. I'm not sure what's going on here
As the degree of infectiousness among the unconfirmed cases is currently unknown, we have introduced different scenarios with different assumptions about how contagious an unconfirmed case is in relation to a reported case. The scenario that best fits the number of reported cases between February 17 and April 10, 2020 is where unconfirmed cases are one-tenth as contagious as reported cases. This scenario indicates that there are 1 reported cases per 1000 cases in total, ie 0.1% of cases are reported and 99.9% remain unverified.
Today's death toll is 185 (which includes deaths that happened earlier but weren't recorded before due to a delay). The state epidemiologist team once again states that Sweden has reached its peak at this point. http://archive.li/wip/6r13j
A total of 1,765 people in Sweden have so far died in covid-19, an additional 185 registered deaths compared to Monday's figures. A total of 1,158 people have needed intensive care and 15,322 cases of covid-19 have been confirmed in Sweden.
 
USA

USA approves first home-test for Coronavirus. It will first be made available to healthcare workers and first responders. It involves swabbing yourself at home and mailing the sample to the company.
(archive)

Michigan, USA

Still waiting for the official re-opening plan.

Follow-up on our protests the other week.
(archive)

SHUTDOWNS
Shelter-in-place order and shutdown of everything non-essential from Tuesday March 24 to Monday April 13. Friday, May 1. (archive) (executive order saved on KF) Travel between primary homes and secondary homes is banned. Gardening sections of stores are closed. (archive - extension). Marijuana shops are open. Tobacco shops are closed (archive). K-12 schools suspended for remainder of year, but alternate learning plans will be implemented (archive) (archive).
Lawsuits against the shutdown order are multiplying (archive). Major protest in Lansing April 15 (A&N thread).
The Big Three Auto manufacturers (Ford, GM, Chrysler) are closing all factories in the USA, putting well over 150,000 workers out of work. This figure does not include workers at supplier factories, which will also be obliged to close. (archive) (archive) (archive). They will be making a small number of parts for emergency vehicles, and production of ventilators, etc. has begun (archive- GM's ventilators, April 17).

ECONOMY AND MISCELLANY
Over 1 million unemployment claims filed = 10% of the total population of the state, nearly 25% of the workforce (Archive - April 16).
Big Brother is watching, and he approves. Massive phone-tracking project reveals Michigan travel down by 45%, compared to 40% nation-wide (website) (news article archive).
Car crashes are down, fatal car crashes are down, and overall death is actually down. (archive - April 12)

FREE STUFF!
Evictions suspended while the state of emergency lasts (archive)
Water will be turned back on for all households while the crisis lasts (archive)

HEALTH CARE
Hydroxychloroquine banned by governor's order (archive). Nevermind LOL! Now she's asking the federal government for it and claiming the ban was a typo in the first place. (archive). Detroit-area hospitals are testing the drug's effectiveness as a preventative on first responders and health-care workers (archive).
Up-to-date count of available hospital beds, etc. in the State (the Detroit area is "Section 2, North and South.")(government website)
Detroit field hospital admits first 8 Corona patients. It will only be taking the less-serious cases. No one on ventilators.(archive - April 14)
Another field hospital in Detroit scaled back after drop in cases. Original plan was to open with 1,100 beds. Now they are only going to open with 250, planned to open April 20. (archive - April 11)

LAW AND ORDER
All localities given more discretion to release prisoners early (archive). The State prison system is not currently releasing inmates early.
Lansing (the capitol) police are not physically responding to minor crimes such as larceny, property damage, and break-ins to unoccupied buildings, including garages. Other police are adopting similar policies (archive) (archive).
Detroit crime still down (archive - April 12); Muskegon police report crime is up (archive).
Breaking the lockdown is a misdemeanor, punishable by $1500 fines and 90 days jail time. Governor Gretchen Whitmer (D) has stated there will not be a "ramp up" of police enforcement (archive). The attorney general has left it to local law enforcement to close businesses, as her hands are full with price-gougers and con artists (archive).
The police cannot, at present, pull drivers over simply for being out during the shutdown (archive). Local police in the rural north and in Detroit suburbs have alike stated they will not be enforcing parts of the order (archive).

DEATH TOLL

Once again, the state has added 95 previously-overlooked deaths to the total.
MDHHS said:
*Note on deaths (04/21/20): Regular reviews of death certificate data maintained in Vital Records reporting systems are conducted by MDHHS staff three times per week. As a part of this process, records that identify COVID-19 infection as a contributing factor to death are compared against all laboratory confirmed cases of COVID-19 in the Michigan Disease Surveillance System (MDSS). If a death certificate is matched to a confirmed COVID-19 case and that record in the MDSS does not indicate the individual died, the MDSS record is updated to indicate the death and the appropriate local health department is notified. These matched deaths are then included with mortality information posted to the Michigan Coronavirus website. As a result of the most recent assessment, today’s data includes 95 additional deaths identified by this methodology.

Detroit Metro (pop. 3,860,000 total; 1,796/sq. mi.; 694/sq km):*

25,105 confirmed / 2,229 dead
24,515 confirmed / 2,030 dead yesterday
(i.e. 199 new deaths, up 150 from previous day)
Normal Detroit Metro Death Rate: 104 per day.**

Other Michigan (6,120,000; 65/sq. mi.; 25/sq km):

7,862 confirmed / 471 dead
7,485 confirmed / 438 dead yesterday
(i.e. 33 new deaths, up 5 from previous day)
Normal not-Detroit Death Rate: 167 per day**

All Michigan (9,990,000; 103/sq. mi.; 40/sq km):

32,967 confirmed / 2,700 dead
32,000 confirmed / 2,468 dead yesterday
(i.e. 232 new deaths, up 155 from previous day.)
(137 new deaths, up 60 without the adjustment).
Normal Michigan Death Rate: 271 per day.**

Death toll doubled since: April 10.
We have been locked down since: March 24.

Detroit Metro Daily Deaths Last Seven Days:
129 / 149*** / 104 / 53 / 69 / 49 / 199**** = 752***

State Government site, daily - today's archive;
State Gov site, total, includes breakdowns by sex, age, race and ethnicity - today's archive.
*Here defined as the City of Detroit, and Macomb, Oakland, and Wayne Counties, minus state prisoners, who are not counted towards any county's cases, but are kept in a category of their own.
** As of 2018.
*** 65 statewide deaths were added on this day because of an adjustment in reporting standards. Presumably most were in Detroit, but I don't know exactly how many.
**** 95 statewide deaths were added on this day because of an adjustment in reporting standards. Presumably most were in Detroit, but I don't know exactly how many.

Also one Ann Arbor man allegedly killed by his roommate in a Corona-related dispute (archive). The suspect has been released from custody while the investigation continues (archive).
Edit: forgot archive links.
 
I finally dug up that news item about Google and Apple:


Coronavirus "tracking" or "contact tracing" = surveillance of course.



Can you post the link to that thread?



Do you think it might cause a type of anemia? Or rather that it exploits existing anemia, given that many people are mineral deficient including iron deficient? Anemics usually suffer from low iron and low hemoglobin levels and they are given colecalciferol and iron fumarate. When I first read that the Coronavirus was affecting hemoglobin and iron I asked whether anemics are considered an at-risk group and the baffling answer I got back is that they aren't. How on earth are anemics not considered high risk when they are the very ones who already have problems with their iron and hemoglobin? We already heard the theory that blacks are more likely to succumb because many already are vitamin D deficient.
I finally dug up that news item about Google and Apple:
colecalciferol (Archive) and iron fumarate (Archive)
Oh, you mean the thing that sparked the oil price war?
no shit the price war (the one between Saudi Arabia and Russia, y'know) was a reaction to falling demand. you don't just choose to ruin your economy for fun. you were trying to imply that Saudi Arabia and Russia didn't have a price war to begin with and that all countries are just equally competing to the tune of supply/demand, which is just wrong. every fucking party involved acknowledges that Saudi Arabia and Russia sparked an aggressive oil price war, including Saudi Arabia and Russia themselves lmao. This isn't some sort of secret, it's publicly acknowledged that this happened. It's not a coincidence that the day oil first took the steep dive of over -60% was after talks between Russia and Saudi Arabia about controlling the oil market . Russia literally cannot stop producing oil, I think their rigs will freeze or some shit. And obviously Saudi Arabia's economy is propped up on oil. So they both took desperate measures to control the space and drastically reduced prices while continuing to produce far further than what the real demand required (and yes, the overproduction aspect has since been reconciled peacefully, but there's still a huge surplus to contend with). And they went back and forth doing this for days, until prices were ridiculously low. And yes, every other oil producer in the world had to lower prices too, because who the fuck would buy oil for the normal price when the Saudis are practically giving it away? I know you feel required to dEbAtE or some shit because you got called you out, but just take the L.



I personally don't think it's likely to go lower than what it closed at, but it won't just make an instant recovery when there's a reason no one was buying. The reason it hasn't turned into a SHTF moment yet is because the stock market is inflated from infinite QE. But that doesn't fix the supply/demand issue. It's just concealing what's happening under the hood and maybe delaying things for a bit longer.

At least historically, when inflationary/deflationary periods are spurred on by real, physical supply and demand issues, it can be difficult to combat with monetary policy. Zimbabwe didn't get their "one hundred trillion dollar" bill from bad central bank management, it was because there was a massive food shortage. Taking money out of circulation doesn't take away the demand for bread. Similarly, propping up a bunch of failing businesses with money injections doesn't really increase consumer buying or do anything about the surplus, which is the cause of the problem to begin with. The real value of the dollar is driven by supply and demand and will adjust accordingly, so structural problems in supply and demand supersede monetary policy imo.

I don't really know when things will actually get bad, but I'd be surprised if they don't. It'd be naive to actually believe that the economy is bullish. I'd even go so far as to say that the asset market has completely decoupled from economic reality.
How the Russian-Saudi Oil War Went Awry—for Putin Most of All (Archive)
the large surplus we have now is influenced by the price war between Saudi Arabia and Russia, which was initially sparked due to falling demand. this caused a trading competition, because they both require oil export for their economy. Instead of going along with the natural supply/demand they both refused to set reasonable production rates and made huge price cuts in order to take control of market share. idk why this hard for you to understand. Have you heard of the prisoner's dilemma? Saudi Arabia and Russia themselves aren't hiding that this occurred so it's truly weird to me that you're acting skeptical. Are you arab or smth? pls explain your bias.

btw: https://www.wsj.com/articles/saudis...head-of-schedule-as-price-crashes-11587416271

also stocks don't just immediately go to zero lol. even putting aside the fact that it was always unclear how long this would last, people invest for different lengths of time. e.g. just to repeat, the US gov has been continually bailing out oil & buying shit tons of barrels from US companies. fuck, i made money off an option on an airline forever ago, because it rallied for a presumed bailout. it was always obvious it would go down longer term, but you can still usually make money in the short-term off of speculation (here meaning: gambling lol)


omg, $-6, no way, prices are really mooning! are you telling me stonks dont only go one direction? :o

do I have to say it? "even a dead cat..." yadda yadda. oil crashed today. that isn't debatable. we've had oil crashes in the past, but it's never gone this low. I mean if -200% in a single day, putting the price into negative isn't a "crash" I have no idea wtf you would consider a real crash. that doesn't mean oil is headed to go lower (i mean its fucking negative, that alone is unheard of), but expecting it to just spring to life is pretty fucking dumb.

ultimately the problem to contend with is the effect that that commodity in particular has on the economy. even ignoring the direct deflationary pressures of supply/demand issues, oil is essentially a currency. the US economy is inextricably tied to it and it doing poorly really does not bode well. there are many countries it doesn't bode well for, actually.
1. the prisoner's dilemma (Archive)
2. Saudis consider cutting oil output ahead of schedule as price crashes (Archive)
So question, how are other states unemployment systems fairing in the US? - because this whole thing has shown up Florida's unemployment system to be an absolute mess.

They made it all online around 2013 under Democrat Governor Bill Nelson - which even at the start had similar issues to now. Leap all the way to 2020 and the Florida unemployment site is still the mess it was in 2013, but had gone under the radar as unemployment has largely been a non-issue till now.

Then Covid happened and the CONNECT site took a collective dump, and the story got dumber. For whatever reason, the FL Dept of Economic Opportunity learned 7 years after the system's install that they had never connected the backup, started taking the site down at 6pm (when people were logging in at like midnight when the site was most likely to work) and after a week or so finally put out a paper version of the form to fill in.

They also had next to nobody on the CONNECT support line so everyone tried to call in when the site was broken and got stonewalled. The calls were so backed up that even the computer handling the call holds would hang up on people. Also even before Covid, you were projected a 6 week wait to have your unemployment claim verified,

It then turns out that the DEO executive wasn't even reporting claims processed to the Governor so he had to hand over the whole nightmare to some new guy instead. Who seems to be making some headway - but this right around the time when Disney have just flung all their WDW employees on top of the pile too.
1. which even at the start (Archive)
2. earned 7 years after the system's install that they had never connected the backup (Archive)
3. DEO executive wasn't even reporting claims processed (Archive)
Bruh ... COVID-19 Hits Some Healthcare Workers With Pay Cuts and Layoffs

It's happening already. And I think it's going to become a huge problem if we keep telling everyone to stay home unless they have severe symptoms of the coof, even though it's already been proven that we have successfully prevented the hospitals from being overwhelmed.

This also presents another question and a potential "unintended consequence": How many people aren't going to the doctor or hospitals right now while they have heart conditions? Possible cancer symptoms? We're going to see upticks in deaths when this is over, since every other health condition is being ignored right now and people are scared to get checkups, I would bet. And it will become a large problem when people start flooding the hospitals and doctors offices when COVID-19 is long gone, especially if multiple hospitals and healthcare offices start to actually shut down/close their doors due to the lack of patients during this pandemic.
COVID-19 Hits Some Healthcare Workers With Pay Cuts and Layoffs (Archive)
Georgia beginning to reopen its economy lifting some coronavirus crisis limits (Archive)
Select parts of New York Cities Healthcare system were hit hard. Not even the entire city system. Sections of Queens, Brooklyn and the Bronx and their associated hospitals. With some stress out on Long Island as the locusts fled. Particularly in Eastern Suffolk. The larger Manhattan hospitals were not anywhere near capacity. The rest of New York State was viewed to be so well off that the Governor stripped Ventilators from them at gunpoint and has refused to send them test kits or PPE.

An Open Letter to Cuomo from one of the Upstate NY Radio Stations

And the Radio station is not lying about Cuomo and the PPE. A friend is high ranked in Health Response in an upsate NY City. The State gave them 1 mask per medical staffer per week of n95 Masks. For the past month. And has only given them 600 test kits total. Which have been rationed to Hospital Personnel and First Responders.
An open letter to governor cuomo from wgys kelly lynch (Archive)
This was an interesting read (as seen on another forum, no sauce listed)

Why Oil Is $1 a Barrel Now but Much More in Autumn

The price for a barrel of West Texas Intermediate crude to be delivered next month plunged 93% to $1.21 in Monday’s trading, the lowest price since the futures contract was launched in 1983. If that barrel were to be delivered to a buyer in November, it would be worth more than twenty five times as much.

The unusually large difference in price between oil now and then has traders filling up tankers and setting them adrift. The bet is that the coronavirus pandemic runs its course and later this year demand for oil—and thus its price—will jump.

Some may have little else to do with their oil other than put it on a boat, given the historic collapse in transportation fuel demand that has accompanied shelter-in-place orders around the world aimed at slowing the spread of the deadly virus. Producers have been running out of places to send crude as refineries choke back their output to match the meager demand for gasoline or jet fuel.

The price gap widened Monday with expiration of the May futures contract set for Tuesday. The price of oil futures converge with the price of actual barrels of oil as the delivery date of the contracts approach.

“If you can find storage, you can make good money,” said Reid I’Anson, economist for market-data firm Kpler Inc.

Increasingly, traders are looking offshore. Lease rates have soared for very large crude carriers, the 2-million-barrel high-seas behemoths known as VLCCs.

The average day rate for a VLCC on a six-month contract is about $100,000, up from $29,000 a year ago, according to Jefferies analyst Randy Giveans. Yearlong contracts are about $72,500 a day, compared with $30,500 a year ago. Spot charter rates have risen sixfold, to nearly $150,000 a day.

Day rates rise as the spread between oil-futures contracts widens. The basic math is that every dollar in the six-month spread equates to an additional $10,000 a day that can be paid for a VLCC over that time without wiping out all the oil-price gains, Mr. Giveans said.

May delivery futures of Brent crude, the international benchmark typically used to price waterborne oil, ended Friday at $28.08 a barrel. The contract for November delivery settled at $37.17. The $9.09 difference wouldn’t justify a $100,000 day rate, but the record spread of $13.45 reached on March 31 does.

At the end of March there were about 109 million barrels of oil stowed at sea, according to Kpler. By Friday it was up to 141 million barrels.

The collapse in current oil prices, combined with the expectations that a lot of economic activity will resume by autumn, has resulted in a market condition called contango—in which prices for a commodity are higher in the future than they are in the present.

One of the great trades in modern history involved steep contango and a lot of oil tankers. In 1990, Phibro, the oil-trading arm of Salomon Brothers, loaded tankers with cheap crude just before Iraq invaded neighboring Kuwait and crude prices surged. The trade’s architect, Andy Hall, became known for a $100 million payday and bought a century-old castle in Germany.

Present market conditions have inspired emulators.

In the past four weeks, nearly 50 long-term contracts have been signed for VLCCs, Mr. Giveans said. Jefferies has identified more than 30 of them as being intended for storage, usually because they are leased without discharge locations. The coast of South Africa offers popular anchorage since it is relatively equidistant to markets in Asia, Europe and the Americas.

“We’ve seen more floating-storage contracts signed for 12 months in last three weeks than we’ve seen in the last three years,” Mr. Giveans said.

Companies that own and operate pipelines and oil-storage facilities could gain as well.

Consider the difference between Friday’s prices for West Texas Intermediate to be delivered in May, which was $18.27 a barrel, and in May 2021, which closed at $35.52: A $17.25 spread could be locked in by buying contracts for oil to be delivered next month and then selling contracts for delivery a year later.

Assuming monthly costs for storage owners of 10 cents a barrel—as Bernstein Research analysts did when they ran back-of-the-envelope storage math in a recent note to clients—leaves a profit of $16.05 a barrel.

Companies don’t usually disclose unused storage capacity, but it is possible that bigger players such as Energy Transfer LP, Enterprise Products Partners LP and Plains All American Pipeline LP could have room for tens of millions of barrels, the Bernstein analysts said.

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So basically, if you could find somewhere to put the shit right now, you could make major bank this fall. Kiwi Farms Supertanker, anyone?
And while not a tree-hugger, it doesn't seem like anyone is considering the environmental ramifications of having all this crude oil sitting in supertankers in the meantime. All's it would take is (due to either terrorism or mechanical failure) for a couple of these supertankers to go tits up and it would make the Exxon Valdez spill look like a tiny dog and pony show.

CoronaChan could certainly work in other ways to off the population.
1. coronavirus pandemic (Archive)
2. little else to do with their oil (Archive)
3. historic collapse in transportation fuel demand (Archive)

Predictable outcome. Hoes still mad.
De Blasios social distancing tip line flooded with obscenities (Archive)
Oh....in one of the jails in the Philippines, most of the inmates and staff tested positive




Spain? I was thinking that would be India.
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Spain? I was thinking that would be India.

There's been cows that decided to show up on the beaches of Bolonia. That is Bolonia the village of Tarifa (Cadiz Province) not the Italian city of the same name.

That was one of the pictures used by the news. I know from hospital groups the fact cows are having a good time in the beach in Bolonia is real, I cannot confirm the photo to not be indian though, 'cause journos are idiots. So if anyone can tell the difference by checking the horizon or some shit I'll be glad to search for other evidence.
 
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