Jaron Seth Bloshinsky / Jazz Jennings / I Am Jazz - Puberty Blockers: Not Even Once

[Diana Moon Glampers]

Eunuchs usually grew fat. It's well documented by historian Mel Brooks.

 

[QuokkaCaptain]

Eunuchs usually grew fat. It's well documented by historian Mel Brooks.

Madeleine Kahn really was in almost every Mel Brooks movie, wasn't she? Not complaining, of course: She was spectacular.

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Noelle talking about the show.

https://neon-lakes.tumblr.com/

Here's the link to his tumblr btw. It's actually really pathetic because his posts get one or two responses at best. Most of the time he's venting to no one. Some of his posts suggest that he, like Jazz, is starting to gain crazy weight and is trying to keep it down. He really sounds like a bitter, lonely person.

It's probably better if Noelle isn't a recognizable or noticeable figure on Tumblr.

Tumblr fame is a fickle beast, and the level of scrutiny he would face (especially as an ~uwu trans girl~) would probably not help any emotional or psychological problems he's got going on. And much like Jazz, the more scrutiny he's under, the more recognized he is as a Transgender Teen, the harder it would be for him to quietly detransition later if he chose to. Although frankly, at this point, if he's already got bottom surgery the bell's been rung and can't really be unrung if he changes his mind later.

 

[sperginity]

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Noelle talking about the show.

https://neon-lakes.tumblr.com/

Here's the link to his tumblr btw. It's actually really pathetic because his posts get one or two responses at best. Most of the time he's venting to no one. Some of his posts suggest that he, like Jazz, is starting to gain crazy weight and is trying to keep it down. He really sounds like a bitter, lonely person.

Can't tell if he is getting anorexic or if he was fat for awhile. Losing 40 lbs is quite a bit.

He also posted repeatedly about having long-term confusion about sexuality and having only negative experiences with romantic relationships. Really fucked up that someone who isn't at peace with their sexuality can have their sex organs amputated.

Also learned he smokes weed and is a communist, but its not so unusual for people to do that as teenagers now, so whatever.

 

[Tasty Tatty]

> I'm disphoric and I hate how I looked in the show.

Sweetie, that's pretty much every other human being. I hated watching pictures of me when I was younger, I was absolutely fat and way uglier. My sister hates she has her old nose. You get over that when you're older.

It's perfectly normal to NOT like who you are or how you look like when you're a teen. By the time you reach 20, you're so busy you stop noticing. I don't feel bad for trans, but for Jazz' generation as a whole, they think every single discomfort they feel it's a mental disorder that needs to be pandered to.

 

[Banditotron]

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Can't tell if he is getting anorexic or if he was fat for awhile. Losing 40 lbs is quite a bit.

He also posted repeatedly about having long-term confusion about sexuality and having only negative experiences with romantic relationships. Really fucked up that someone who isn't at peace with their sexuality can have their sex organs amputated.

Also learned he smokes weed and is a communist, but its not so unusual for people to do that as teenagers now, so whatever.

I'd feel bad for him, but frankly, I've go no sympathy for people who are so devoid of personality they try to fill the void with politics.

 

[keyboredsm4shthe2nd]

Remember the really creepy loser black guy Jazz "dated"? I forget his name, but he seemed totally zoned out the entire time they were together. He didn't look genuinely affectionate or interested in Jazz, at all. And he was also unemployed and didn't really have anything going for him in terms of college or looking for a job, I think, so what happened was that he saw that Jazz was famous and lonely and he thought TLC would give him a few dollars for helping make the story more spicy for a few episodes. Or maybe he was a pervert with a weird fetish. Maybe both.

Most people aren't very hard to please, most of us don't want a supermodel, and most of us know we'll disagree on some things with our life partner. But at the end of the day, there's someone out there for most of us. As long as you aren't horribly deformed and don't have serious mental problems, you can probably have a healthy relationship or marriage with somebody out there. As for Jazz? Who would possibly want a young man with a perpetually healing wound between his legs and an underdeveloped brain which is forever going to lead to mental problems and behavior issues? Did Jeannette even care that she was making her son unmarriageable and possibly dooming him to an extremely lonely life? His only hope is if he figures out that this is a bunch of shit, and then finds himself a life partner that also got trooned out as a child. That's literally it for him.

The answer for Jeanette is that she believed all the consequences of castrati were a lie and like many in the troon movement believe David Reimer was a liar, and Jeanette drank deep from the agp koolaid believing gnrh agonists would turn her prepubescent male child into a small shouldered delicate jaw realgirl.

 

[Emotional Prolapse]

Castrati are fascinating from a historical perspective because we literally did this same goddamn thing in the 1600s, it was just Jesus-appoved or whatever. Everyone was deep into choir music because that shit was rock and roll back then, but god forbid you let a girl use her natural talents in your fucked up religion, better castrate some boys to make sure we give little girls even less opportunities to succeed than they already have, while also fucking over the little boys we mutilate. Seriously, right down to the famewhoring parents and pretend informed-consent, this is the castrato craze all over again, and this article (linked below in two parts) demonstrates it perfectly.

Hilariously, Mozart straight up says, in a letter to his sister, that castrati singers have a reputation for being overdramatic, and he can't tell if it's from being a performer and thus prone to dramatics or, and I fucking quote, "Low self-esteem." Fucking LOL. Mozart weren't no bitch, though he was indeed also a dude in a wig. He was also drowning in pussy, likely because he managed to make a musical career for himself without becoming a sideshow freak. Oh, and also because he didn't cut his dick off.

I digress. These articles have been linked before, but they're essentially the closest thing we have to a roadmap for Jazz's development as s/he ages. It's a fascinating read and anyone who has enjoyed this thread should check it out. It was published ten years ago, when you were allowed to speak frankly about this kind of thing. You should def read for yourselves (Part 1, Part 2) but I'll leave you with a few choice quotes.

Spoiler: Click here for instant regret

Requests for castration were required of boys eight to ten years of age indicating their willingness to accept the operation and devote their lives to the Church. In 1687, one Silvestro Prittoni petitioned the Duke of Modena:

Silvestro Prittoni, servant of Your Serene Highness, finds himself in the state of rejoicing in a voice sufficiently good to practice music and wishing to retain it, begs Your Serene Highness on his goodness to make it such that he is without those instruments, which would allow the change in voice to take place with advancing years; that he might receive all this as charity, it being the case that he cannot find the means of being able to do this because of his poverty.

Translation: Cut this kid's dick off for free and pay for it plzkthx so he can be famous. Sound familiar?

The twilight of the castrati begins with the writings of French authors, including Voltaire and Rousseau. The latter observed: “In Italy there are barbarous fathers who sacrifice nature for financial gain and hand over their children for this operation.” Even in Italy, the arrogant and outlandish conduct of famous castrati came under attack. In 1720, the composer Benedetto Marcello penned one of the most racy satires, Il teatro alla moda (The Fashionable Theater), specifically targeting the castrati for his bards. John Rosselli points to the economic revival beginning in 1730 following a period of prolonged depression that reversed a trend toward “Christian asceticism and tipped the balance away from gambling a son’s virility on success as an opera singer or tenured position as a church singer.”

Need I say more?

The phenomenon of the castrati as described in this paper raises ethical issues that leave us shuddering. Today, “child abuse,” would seem to be the term we would affix to these practices. The daily newspapers tell us that child abuse is still prevalent and the promise of financial gain still leads parents to exploit their children: witness the spectacle of childhood beauty contests. Today it seems incomprehensible that children 8 to 10 years of age would be deemed capable of giving written consent for castration, while we still struggle to find the appropriate age a minor might sign a consent form for a legitimate medical intervention. Before we feel too smug, we should remind ourselves that castration and sterilization were authorized for eugenic purposes well into the 20th century and that the United States was the first country to legalize this practice—a fact that was cited by Nazi propaganda in defending Germany’s forced sterilization program in 1936 and that was raised yet again in their defense during the Nuremberg trials. Even today, instances of complicity by members of the medical profession in ethically questionable medical practices and surgical procedures are continuously uncovered.

Seriously, read the rest if you haven't. The parallels to Jazz's situation and this whole trans kids clusterfuck overall are fucking terrifying. I could have copy-pasted another ten quotes from it that are just as 'WTF' as these three. But in case you were wondering, the end of the story is "then we realized how fucked this is and how much simpler it is to just let natal adult women sing the high notes instead of mutilating kids and we stopped this fucking bullshit" so here's hoping society gets there again, and fast. Christ.

TL;DR: Jazz is fucked, just like these poor kids were back in the 1500-1600s. A wise (actual) woman once told me, 'History will re(eeee)peat herself until she is heard.' Guess we're doing round two of this castrato bullshit, because we collectively forgot it was bullshit, or something. Also apparently an unexpected side effect of castration as a child is being freakishly-tall. But yes, the vagina fairy will come and make you a beautiful delicate princess. You definitely do not look like big awkward dude dressed as a young female prostitute for Halloween, no sir.

 

[Safir]

You should def read for yourselves (Part 1, Part 2) but I'll leave you with a few choice quotes.

Best line:

Since castrati were not capable of reproduction, the Church would not sanctify their entry into matrimony. A castrato by the name of Cortona petitioned to be allowed to marry since his castration had been badly carried out and he was fit for marriage. Pope Innocent XI read the letter and wrote in the margin, “let him be castrated better.”​

 

[The Pink Panther]

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Noelle talking about the show.

https://neon-lakes.tumblr.com/

Here's the link to his tumblr btw. It's actually really pathetic because his posts get one or two responses at best. Most of the time he's venting to no one. Some of his posts suggest that he, like Jazz, is starting to gain crazy weight and is trying to keep it down. He really sounds like a bitter, lonely person.

>political views
>changed

Could he be based?

 

[Hollywood Hitler]

Get those crescent and star stickers ready...

Spoiler: Islamic Content

If Jazz got pounded hard in the frankenvag would it rip loose and pull out on the cock like a pocket pussy? Or would it rip loose and get pounded inside their abdomen like a condom that slipped off?

I think he'd just take it in the ass like a good gay boy

 

[Banditotron]

>political views
>changed

Could he be based?

Nah, he's a spiteful little commie now. The behavior he probable regrets in the show was not constantly lashing out.

 

[Comicsgeist]

Castrati are fascinating from a historical perspective because we literally did this same goddamn thing in the 1600s, it was just Jesus-appoved or whatever. Everyone was deep into choir music because that shit was rock and roll back then, but god forbid you let a girl use her natural talents in your fucked up religion, better castrate some boys to make sure we give little girls even less opportunities to succeed than they already have, while also fucking over the little boys we mutilate. Seriously, right down to the famewhoring parents and pretend informed-consent, this is the castrato craze all over again, and this article (linked below in two parts) demonstrates it perfectly.

Hilariously, Mozart straight up says, in a letter to his sister, that castrati singers have a reputation for being overdramatic, and he can't tell if it's from being a performer and thus prone to dramatics or, and I fucking quote, "Low self-esteem." Fucking LOL. Mozart weren't no bitch, though he was indeed also a dude in a wig. He was also drowning in pussy, likely because he managed to make a musical career for himself without becoming a sideshow freak. Oh, and also because he didn't cut his dick off.

I digress. These articles have been linked before, but they're essentially the closest thing we have to a roadmap for Jazz's development as s/he ages. It's a fascinating read and anyone who has enjoyed this thread should check it out. It was published ten years ago, when you were allowed to speak frankly about this kind of thing. You should def read for yourselves (Part 1, Part 2) but I'll leave you with a few choice quotes.

Spoiler: Click here for instant regret

Requests for castration were required of boys eight to ten years of age indicating their willingness to accept the operation and devote their lives to the Church. In 1687, one Silvestro Prittoni petitioned the Duke of Modena:

Translation: Cut this kid's dick off for free and pay for it plzkthx so he can be famous. Sound familiar?

The twilight of the castrati begins with the writings of French authors, including Voltaire and Rousseau. The latter observed: “In Italy there are barbarous fathers who sacrifice nature for financial gain and hand over their children for this operation.” Even in Italy, the arrogant and outlandish conduct of famous castrati came under attack. In 1720, the composer Benedetto Marcello penned one of the most racy satires, Il teatro alla moda (The Fashionable Theater), specifically targeting the castrati for his bards. John Rosselli points to the economic revival beginning in 1730 following a period of prolonged depression that reversed a trend toward “Christian asceticism and tipped the balance away from gambling a son’s virility on success as an opera singer or tenured position as a church singer.”

Need I say more?

The phenomenon of the castrati as described in this paper raises ethical issues that leave us shuddering. Today, “child abuse,” would seem to be the term we would affix to these practices. The daily newspapers tell us that child abuse is still prevalent and the promise of financial gain still leads parents to exploit their children: witness the spectacle of childhood beauty contests. Today it seems incomprehensible that children 8 to 10 years of age would be deemed capable of giving written consent for castration, while we still struggle to find the appropriate age a minor might sign a consent form for a legitimate medical intervention. Before we feel too smug, we should remind ourselves that castration and sterilization were authorized for eugenic purposes well into the 20th century and that the United States was the first country to legalize this practice—a fact that was cited by Nazi propaganda in defending Germany’s forced sterilization program in 1936 and that was raised yet again in their defense during the Nuremberg trials. Even today, instances of complicity by members of the medical profession in ethically questionable medical practices and surgical procedures are continuously uncovered.

Seriously, read the rest if you haven't. The parallels to Jazz's situation and this whole trans kids clusterfuck overall are fucking terrifying. I could have copy-pasted another ten quotes from it that are just as 'WTF' as these three. But in case you were wondering, the end of the story is "then we realized how fucked this is and how much simpler it is to just let natal adult women sing the high notes instead of mutilating kids and we stopped this fucking bullshit" so here's hoping society gets there again, and fast. Christ.

TL;DR: Jazz is fucked, just like these poor kids were back in the 1500-1600s. A wise (actual) woman once told me, 'History will re(eeee)peat herself until she is heard.' Guess we're doing round two of this castrato bullshit, because we collectively forgot it was bullshit, or something. Also apparently an unexpected side effect of castration as a child is being freakishly-tall. But yes, the vagina fairy will come and make you a beautiful delicate princess. You definitely do not look like big awkward dude dressed as a young female prostitute for Halloween, no sir.

It's a fascinating subject. I became aware of it by watching a really excellent film called Farinelli about the most famous castrato in Italy. I'll embed the trailer, they used 2 voices digitally combined, a male countertenor and a female soprano to recreate what he would have sounded like for the film.

It's a fascinating story with some modern parallels, in that he was mutilated by an abusive parent that pretended to him that he lost his balls in an accident or illness when in fact it was sold for profit to the entertainment industry of the time, in which he became a huge star. Castrato were like the K-Pop boys of their day, fawned over and adored by hoards women for their in-offensive feminine looks and sweet voices.
Farinelli would 'bed' dozens of women, though it was his brother that would join in the fun to deliver the 'coup de grace' that the impotent Farinelli never could.

 

[Tasty Tatty]

Well, it's a good thing Jazz has two brothers, although I doubt they're into men.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

Well, it's a good thing Jazz has two brothers, although I doubt they're into men.

Next season: Jazz tries to convince his brothers to date Noel.

They wouldn't even be able to say that they aren't into men because this would imply that Jazz is a bloke too. They would have to invent another reason for not wanting to date him to hide the ugly truth.

 

[keyboredsm4shthe2nd]

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Noelle's tumblr makes me so sad.

>I'm straight
>no wait actually I'm a lesbian on account of I like lesbian porn, goodbye dick!
>turns out I'm gay with a massive regret between my legs

What a fucking ride. Wouldn't want this to be my kid. How long do you think he can hold on before the sweet release of death claims him? Because it seems to be coming up fast.

 

[Sir Wesley Tailpipe]

>I'm straight
>no wait actually I'm a lesbian on account of I like lesbian porn, goodbye dick!
>turns out I'm gay with a massive regret between my legs

What a fucking ride. Wouldn't want this to be my kid. How long do you think he can hold on before the sweet release of death claims him? Because it seems to be coming up fast.

I’m sure it’ll be either 41% faster than expected, or 41% slower.

 

[Muttnik]

Diving deeper into Noelle's tumblr, he displays some really creepy fetishizing of women/lesbianism and it's honestly kind of disgusting. There were also tons of straight-bashing posts which made me sad and angry. Unlike Jazz, who is childish but friendly, Noelle really comes across as an unpleasant orc with an unlikable killjoy personality that pushes people away.

I'd say he has an even smaller chance at finding love and happiness than Jazz. Which is about as close to a death sentence there is. Goddammit, parents need to teach their kids how not to fuck up their lives early as well as how to not come across as a creepy asshole.

 

[Fluoxetine Man]

Pope Innocent XI read the letter and wrote in the margin, “let him be castrated better.”

Damn nigga, that's stone cold!

 

[keyboredsm4shthe2nd]

Diving deeper into Noelle's tumblr, he displays some really creepy fetishizing of women/lesbianism and it's honestly kind of disgusting. There were also tons of straight-bashing posts which made me sad and angry. Unlike Jazz, who is childish but friendly, Noelle really comes across as an unpleasant orc with an unlikable killjoy personality that pushes people away.

I'd say he has an even smaller chance at finding love and happiness than Jazz. Which is about as close to a death sentence there is. Goddammit, parents need to teach their kids how not to fuck up their lives early as well as how to not come across as a creepy asshole.

He's an agp troonbian misogynist. It's nothing new. He turned himself into the most humiliating thing he could in his mind: a woman (GROSS!) who loves other women (EVEN GROSSER!)

 

[stuffandthings]

Castrati are fascinating from a historical perspective because we literally did this same goddamn thing in the 1600s, it was just Jesus-appoved or whatever. Everyone was deep into choir music because that shit was rock and roll back then, but god forbid you let a girl use her natural talents in your fucked up religion, better castrate some boys to make sure we give little girls even less opportunities to succeed than they already have, while also fucking over the little boys we mutilate. Seriously, right down to the famewhoring parents and pretend informed-consent, this is the castrato craze all over again, and this article (linked below in two parts) demonstrates it perfectly.

Hilariously, Mozart straight up says, in a letter to his sister, that castrati singers have a reputation for being overdramatic, and he can't tell if it's from being a performer and thus prone to dramatics or, and I fucking quote, "Low self-esteem." Fucking LOL. Mozart weren't no bitch, though he was indeed also a dude in a wig. He was also drowning in pussy, likely because he managed to make a musical career for himself without becoming a sideshow freak. Oh, and also because he didn't cut his dick off.

I digress. These articles have been linked before, but they're essentially the closest thing we have to a roadmap for Jazz's development as s/he ages. It's a fascinating read and anyone who has enjoyed this thread should check it out. It was published ten years ago, when you were allowed to speak frankly about this kind of thing. You should def read for yourselves (Part 1, Part 2) but I'll leave you with a few choice quotes.

Spoiler: Click here for instant regret

Requests for castration were required of boys eight to ten years of age indicating their willingness to accept the operation and devote their lives to the Church. In 1687, one Silvestro Prittoni petitioned the Duke of Modena:

Translation: Cut this kid's dick off for free and pay for it plzkthx so he can be famous. Sound familiar?

The twilight of the castrati begins with the writings of French authors, including Voltaire and Rousseau. The latter observed: “In Italy there are barbarous fathers who sacrifice nature for financial gain and hand over their children for this operation.” Even in Italy, the arrogant and outlandish conduct of famous castrati came under attack. In 1720, the composer Benedetto Marcello penned one of the most racy satires, Il teatro alla moda (The Fashionable Theater), specifically targeting the castrati for his bards. John Rosselli points to the economic revival beginning in 1730 following a period of prolonged depression that reversed a trend toward “Christian asceticism and tipped the balance away from gambling a son’s virility on success as an opera singer or tenured position as a church singer.”

Need I say more?

The phenomenon of the castrati as described in this paper raises ethical issues that leave us shuddering. Today, “child abuse,” would seem to be the term we would affix to these practices. The daily newspapers tell us that child abuse is still prevalent and the promise of financial gain still leads parents to exploit their children: witness the spectacle of childhood beauty contests. Today it seems incomprehensible that children 8 to 10 years of age would be deemed capable of giving written consent for castration, while we still struggle to find the appropriate age a minor might sign a consent form for a legitimate medical intervention. Before we feel too smug, we should remind ourselves that castration and sterilization were authorized for eugenic purposes well into the 20th century and that the United States was the first country to legalize this practice—a fact that was cited by Nazi propaganda in defending Germany’s forced sterilization program in 1936 and that was raised yet again in their defense during the Nuremberg trials. Even today, instances of complicity by members of the medical profession in ethically questionable medical practices and surgical procedures are continuously uncovered.

Seriously, read the rest if you haven't. The parallels to Jazz's situation and this whole trans kids clusterfuck overall are fucking terrifying. I could have copy-pasted another ten quotes from it that are just as 'WTF' as these three. But in case you were wondering, the end of the story is "then we realized how fucked this is and how much simpler it is to just let natal adult women sing the high notes instead of mutilating kids and we stopped this fucking bullshit" so here's hoping society gets there again, and fast. Christ.

TL;DR: Jazz is fucked, just like these poor kids were back in the 1500-1600s. A wise (actual) woman once told me, 'History will re(eeee)peat herself until she is heard.' Guess we're doing round two of this castrato bullshit, because we collectively forgot it was bullshit, or something. Also apparently an unexpected side effect of castration as a child is being freakishly-tall. But yes, the vagina fairy will come and make you a beautiful delicate princess. You definitely do not look like big awkward dude dressed as a young female prostitute for Halloween, no sir.

Not to get us too off topic. But the church was 'officially' against castrating boys just for their singing voices. Rather families would find, or pretend to fine, some lameass excuse for why the castration was medically necessary and then the boy could become a faaaabulous superstar.