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Kind of dumb to suggest everyone who is prevented from working could get a job as an essential worker. In fact, the whole thing is dumb.

Oddly enough if you look at the comments on Raw Story the consensus is that Cuomo was right and pwned the reporter with facts and logic but on Youtube, the response is that he's a horrifically bad leader and should go.

He should get coughed on so I can personally pull his respirator and watch the light leave his eyes. Get fucked you fucking disingenuous, bridge troll, greasy, guido looking motherfucker. I'm not sacrificing my remaining youth to continue palming the pennies that so graciously fall from the hoards you crusty, draconic, boomer fuckfaces have sat on for two whole generations now.

Get removed, Boomer.
 
This isn't relevant to anything going on right now but holy fuck I hate the amount of Karens or whatever the term is for pussies is that freak the fuck out when you say you're tired of the lockdowns.
I just want me and my families lives to go back to normal. I'm sick of staying inside, sick of my family going back to work at the hospital everyday and I have to pray to make sure they're gonna come home in one piece, sick of politicians like Cuomo who are just "it's on you if you're suicidal because of corona-chan lol bye bitch, go apply for a essential job but only ex cons and medical students are getting them hehe" but you know that just means I'm #privileged for complaining and being a low-empathy right-wing Drumpfer sociopath and should stay in my pod and eat my bugs like everyone else.
I want to breathe some air nigga holy shit. Thanks for coming to my blog.
 
This isn't relevant to anything going on right now but holy fuck I hate the amount of Karens or whatever the term is for pussies is that freak the fuck out when you say you're tired of the lockdowns.

You mean the ones that if you say, "Gee I can't wait until we can do things again" start losing their minds and screaming about how this is serious and it's not the flu and OMG you're so selfish for even thinking like that!11! Your thoughts are going to kill us all !!11!1" Those ones? I've been done with that shit since the beginning.
 
You mean the ones that if you say, "Gee I can't wait until we can do things again" start losing their minds and screaming about how this is serious and it's not the flu and OMG you're so selfish for even thinking like that!11! Your thoughts are going to kill us all !!11!1" Those ones? I've been done with that shit since the beginning.
Yeah those ones, can't even have a decent discussion with friends about how the lockdowns are fucking up your state because don't you know GRANDMAS ARE DYING! Bitch mines been dead for 10 years whats you're point?
My favorite is the ones who are like "But you're a first worlder! Think of those in impovershed countries!"
My sympathy can only go so far man, people in shitholes probably have way more issues to worry about than just corona-chan's loving. Hell they probably don't even notice anything wrong.
 
that just means I'm #privileged for complaining and being a low-empathy right-wing Drumpfer sociopath and should stay in my pod and eat my bugs like everyone else.

Anecdotal, but everyone, and I mean everyone I know who spews this shit is a generational American (i.e., parents and even grandparents were born here) with a nice job that allows for at least some remote work. No one in their circle has ever been destitute - and when I say destitute, I mean shitty country poor, not "I'm oppressed because I only have an iPhone 8" American poor.

I'm originally from a shit country, the type where dysentery fucks half the neighbor kids. You give people a choice between starving and the shits, and they'll take the shits every. Fucking. Time. No questions asked.

TFW you are so insanely privileged, you no longer fear poverty, and even clamor for it! :story:
 
Oddly enough if you look at the comments on Raw Story the consensus is that Cuomo was right and pwned the reporter with facts and logic but on Youtube, the response is that he's a horrifically bad leader and should go.
Imagine being so Enlightened that you unironically compare wanting to lead a normal life to wanting to be a junkie hobo. Under any circumstances.
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Tegnell said sampling and modeling data indicated that 20% of Stockholm’s population is already immune to the virus, and that “in a few weeks’ time we might reach herd immunity and we believe that is why we’re seeing a slow decline in cases, in spite of sampling (testing for the coronavirus) more and more.”

so a good deal of their population is already immune, cases are declining, the health care system hasn't collapsed AND their economy hasn't been destroyed.

So much for the Chinese century. Long live the Swedish century!

I for one welcome our IKEA overlords.

But tell me, when it's time to start a family, do I find the wife first, or a bull of good breeding stock?
 
I am holding out hope for the Sweden herd immunity plan. They say within a few months in Stockholm they'll have herd immunity. In New York 15% of pregnant women in a sample were actively infected. The amount of people with antibodies could be gigantic.

I hold some hope for ivermectin as well.

UN is now saying a biblical famine will happen across dozens of countries from economic collapse, hundreds of thousands of children will die, millions in US will slip into poverty. I hope the "just stay the fuck home the economy will recover" people realize we don't exist in a gay space communist paradise and economic collapse is bad.
 
I hope the "just stay the fuck home the economy will recover" people realize we don't exist in a gay space communist paradise and economic collapse is bad.
They don't. Progressive tards have been pushing the idea for more than a decade now that economic collapse only hurts the rich, who ironically will be the only people able to weather a collapse in reality.
 
Michigan, USA

Still waiting for the official re-opening plan. Governor Gretchen Whitmer (D) is expected to present her plan today at a press conference, after which she and the republican-controlled legislature (who have at least two plans of their own) will presumably begin working on a compromise. I don't plan on posting any articles until something is official.

SHUTDOWNS
Shelter-in-place order and shutdown of everything non-essential from Tuesday March 24 to Monday April 13. Friday, May 1. (archive) (executive order saved on KF) Travel between primary homes and secondary homes is banned. Gardening sections of stores are closed. (archive - extension). Marijuana shops are open. Tobacco shops are closed (archive). K-12 schools suspended for remainder of year, but alternate learning plans will be implemented (archive) (archive).
Lawsuits against the shutdown order are multiplying (archive). Major protest in Lansing April 15 (A&N thread).
The Big Three Auto manufacturers (Ford, GM, Chrysler) are closing all factories in the USA, putting well over 150,000 workers out of work. This figure does not include workers at supplier factories, which will also be obliged to close. (archive) (archive) (archive). They will be making a small number of parts for emergency vehicles, and production of ventilators, etc. has begun (archive- GM's ventilators, April 17).

ECONOMY AND MISCELLANY
Over 1 million unemployment claims filed = 10% of the total population of the state, nearly 25% of the workforce (Archive - April 16).
Big Brother is watching, and he approves. Massive phone-tracking project reveals Michigan travel down by 45%, compared to 40% nation-wide (website) (news article archive).
Car crashes are down, fatal car crashes are down, and overall death is actually down. (archive - April 12)

FREE STUFF!
Evictions suspended while the state of emergency lasts (archive)
Water will be turned back on for all households while the crisis lasts (archive)

HEALTH CARE
Hydroxychloroquine banned by governor's order (archive). Nevermind LOL! Now she's asking the federal government for it and claiming the ban was a typo in the first place. (archive). Detroit-area hospitals are testing the drug's effectiveness as a preventative on first responders and health-care workers (archive).
Up-to-date count of available hospital beds, etc. in the State (the Detroit area is "Section 2, North and South.")(government website)
Detroit field hospital admits first 8 Corona patients. It will only be taking the less-serious cases. No one on ventilators.(archive - April 14)
Another field hospital in Detroit scaled back after drop in cases. Original plan was to open with 1,100 beds. Now they are only going to open with 250, planned to open April 20. (archive - April 11)

LAW AND ORDER
All localities given more discretion to release prisoners early (archive). The State prison system is not currently releasing inmates early.
Lansing (the capitol) police are not physically responding to minor crimes such as larceny, property damage, and break-ins to unoccupied buildings, including garages. Other police are adopting similar policies (archive) (archive).
Detroit crime still down (archive - April 12); Muskegon police report crime is up (archive).
Breaking the lockdown is a misdemeanor, punishable by $1500 fines and 90 days jail time. Governor Gretchen Whitmer (D) has stated there will not be a "ramp up" of police enforcement (archive). The attorney general has left it to local law enforcement to close businesses, as her hands are full with price-gougers and con artists (archive).
The police cannot, at present, pull drivers over simply for being out during the shutdown (archive). Local police in the rural north and in Detroit suburbs have alike stated they will not be enforcing parts of the order (archive).

DEATH TOLL

The State added 95 previously-overlooked deaths to the total yesterday, Tuesday, April 21.
MDHHS said:
*Note on deaths (04/21/20): Regular reviews of death certificate data maintained in Vital Records reporting systems are conducted by MDHHS staff three times per week. As a part of this process, records that identify COVID-19 infection as a contributing factor to death are compared against all laboratory confirmed cases of COVID-19 in the Michigan Disease Surveillance System (MDSS). If a death certificate is matched to a confirmed COVID-19 case and that record in the MDSS does not indicate the individual died, the MDSS record is updated to indicate the death and the appropriate local health department is notified. These matched deaths are then included with mortality information posted to the Michigan Coronavirus website. As a result of the most recent assessment, today’s data includes 95 additional deaths identified by this methodology.

Detroit Metro (pop. 3,860,000 total; 1,796/sq. mi.; 694/sq km):*

25,652 confirmed / 2,321 dead
25,105 confirmed / 2,229 dead yesterday
(i.e. 92 new deaths, down 107 from previous day)
Normal Detroit Metro Death Rate: 104 per day.**

Other Michigan (6,120,000; 65/sq. mi.; 25/sq km):

8,314 confirmed / 492 dead
7,862 confirmed / 471 dead yesterday
(i.e. 21 new deaths, down 2 from previous day)
Normal not-Detroit Death Rate: 167 per day**

All Michigan (9,990,000; 103/sq. mi.; 40/sq km):

33,966 confirmed / 2,813 dead
32,967 confirmed / 2,700 dead yesterday
(i.e. 113 new deaths, down 119 from previous day, down 24 without the adjustment).
Normal Michigan Death Rate: 271 per day.**

Death toll doubled since: April 11.
We have been locked down since: March 24.

Detroit Metro Daily Deaths Last Seven Days:
149*** / 104 / 53 / 69 / 49 / 199**** / 92 = 715***

State Government site, daily - today's archive;
State Gov site, total, includes breakdowns by sex, age, race and ethnicity - today's archive.
*Here defined as the City of Detroit, and Macomb, Oakland, and Wayne Counties, minus state prisoners, who are not counted towards any county's cases, but are kept in a category of their own.
** As of 2018.
*** 65 statewide deaths were added on this day because of an adjustment in reporting standards. Presumably most were in Detroit, but I don't know exactly how many.
**** 95 statewide deaths were added on this day because of an adjustment in reporting standards. Presumably most were in Detroit, but I don't know exactly how many.

Also one Ann Arbor man allegedly killed by his roommate in a Corona-related dispute (archive). The suspect has been released from custody while the investigation continues (archive).
 
I am holding out hope for the Sweden herd immunity plan. They say within a few months in Stockholm they'll have herd immunity. In New York 15% of pregnant women in a sample were actively infected. The amount of people with antibodies could be gigantic.

I hold some hope for ivermectin as well.

UN is now saying a biblical famine will happen across dozens of countries from economic collapse, hundreds of thousands of children will die, millions in US will slip into poverty. I hope the "just stay the fuck home the economy will recover" people realize we don't exist in a gay space communist paradise and economic collapse is bad.
The people who say that are fucking stupid and show the true socialist colors of not understanding what "economy" means. They hear "the economy is going to collapse" and they think it's all wallstreetbets memes and the stock market. They don't understand that the food on their plate, the clothes on their back, and the roof over the heads are all a product of the economy. These are the kind of retards that went out and stood in lines for hours to get toilet paper because of ticktock memes and media panic stories. Absolute micro-brains.
 
The people committing suicide(already happening), being murdered(already happening), starving , going homeless are all a LOT younger than the people dying of the virus.

Apparently the lives of young people are worth less than retired boomers or fucking geriatrics rotting in nursing homes. And Cuomo is open about thinking that.

What a sick society we live in.

One of the ways they measure loss is by number of life years lost.

So if five people who are 30 kill themselves, and we assume they had 50 years of life left, then loss of life years is 250 years. If five 80 year old die loss of life is maybe a few years.
 
Please listen to what this young nurse says about quitting his job to come to New York:


Watch the full thing if you have the time, later there's an interview with the NYPD. Later they interview the male nurse again and you can tell from the look in his eyes that he has already suffered PTSD.
Watch the full thing if you have the time, later there's an interview with the NYPD. Later they interview the male nurse again and you can tell from the look in his eyes that he has already suffered PTSD:
Article (Archive)
CDC chief: Coronavirus wave in winter could be 'even more difficult' than current outbreak
by Zachary Halaschak
| April 21, 2020 07:06 PM

Robert Redfield, who leads the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, warned a second wave of the coronavirus could be worse than the current outbreak.
Redfield told the Washington Post on Tuesday that he worries the pandemic could worsen next winter when the illness coincides with flu season.
“There’s a possibility that the assault of the virus on our nation next winter will actually be even more difficult than the one we just went through,” Redfield said. “And when I’ve said this to others, they kind of put their head back, they don’t understand what I mean.”
The director said a two-fold wave of both COVID-19 and influenza could cause increased strain on the healthcare system as large numbers of people get sick.
Last week, Redfield said there might be a resurgence of cases as the weather begins to cool down, even if the United States gets the coronavirus under control in the next few months.
“I think we have to assume this is like other respiratory viruses, and there will be a seasonality to it,” Redfield said in an interview with ABC's Good Morning America.
“The CDC is science-based, data-driven, [so] until we see it, we don’t know for certain [there will be a resurgence],” he continued. “But it is critical that we plan that this virus is likely to follow a seasonality pattern similar to flu, and we’re going to have another battle with it upfront and aggressively next winter.”
Some states have already begun the process of lifting social distancing restrictions that shuttered stores and businesses across the country. Even as protests have sprouted across the country, drawing attention to a dire economic situation caused by stay-at-home orders, there remains some concern about there being a resurgence of COVID-19 cases once businesses and life begin to return to normalcy.
Dr. Deborah Birx, the response coordinator for the White House Coronavirus Task Force, addressed Redfield's comments during Tuesday's briefing. She said the U.S. was "working on an algorithm" in which patients are first tested for influenza and then tested for COVID-19. She said the country is "building the testing capacity to be able to do that."
"We're also hoping by that time that we have additional treatment options for people with COVID-19," Birx said. When further questioned whether she believes it will be worse than the outbreak now, Birx said she wasn't so sure.
"I don't know if it will be worse, I think this has been pretty bad," she said. "I believe that we'll have early warning signals."
The U.S. has had more than 820,000 cases of the coronavirus and at least 44,200 deaths since the pandemic began, according to Johns Hopkins University.
1. Zachary Halaschak (Archive)
2. he worries (Archive)
3. a resurgence (Archive)
Japan face masks donated Taiwan Coronavirus (Archive)
Anyone else have the COVID toes symptom?


So regarding this article, spouse noticed red lesions on their foot about a week and a half ago. We thought nothing of it. Attributed it to increased use of exercise equipment instead of going outside. Read this article tonight and while it is unconfirmed, the spots are a deep purple and on the tips of the toes. No other symptoms. Unfortunately they cannot confirm if this is a symptom, as testing is hard to come by. But seems like it is found mostly in children (this is not the middle east, my spouse is over 18!) Sometimes adults can get it though.

If this is a sign, then they are likely asymptomatic and so am I, as we have vigorously exchanged bodily fluids over the last few weeks of quarantine. Would love to get an antibody test when they come out, assuming most of the carriers are like us and don't show signs.

Only place I can venture a guess where we got it is the hospital for a small outpatient procedure I had a few weeks ago. Spouse sat in the waiting room roughly 1 hour, we were provided masks, and we wore gloves. Crazy shit.
Archive of USA TODAY article: https://archive.vn/mDZnw
Styx vlogged about Corona-chan in Turkey and Youtube censorship.

That Youtuber gived me some laughs.
Styx vlogged about Corona-chan in Turkey and Youtube censorship:
They've been trying so, so hard to suppress this or any such report from the get go. It really damages their narrative to have had it spread so much with a lack of deaths.
Plus, the ghouls at Harvard, Imperial and the media are pushing super hard on the "BUT...there could be a second wave! We'll never be safe! MORE LOCKDOWNS". UN and WHO leaning into a new narrative of "FAMINES. WORST YET TO COME.".
Never mind the fact that they're all still super into dismissing any attempt at a treatment. HCQ is magically very dangerous, BCG Vaccine? Dame Dame, it could give you a fever! Please don't take it. Everything that people know or can see with their own 2 eyes must be spirited away from public discourse, because it doesn't fit the narrative.

This whole shape shifting of reality is exactly what these people did in relation to gender. Suddenly we all had to accept that normal was bad, men are real women, a penis is feminine, there's no sexual dimorphism.
All the new terms they've pushed through - social distancing, new normal. It's just like the Cis, Non-Binary, Trans etc.

We all know what the game is now and it's like watching something in its death throes. You have NYT still printing trash like this, citing the Chinese Spies at Harvard - "What will our New Normal feel like?" (Written by Max Fisher, so of course it's high grade bullshit).



No, actually it wouldn't, but thanks for playing Max. You've seen what happens in a month. Fucking rainbows you think you're getting 2 years of this shit. They really have no idea of how to read the room. This isn't the same as calling someone a bigot for voting for Trump to shut them down. People will actually kill for their freedoms and liberties. Someone useless and doughy like Max would be first... They're so insanely deluded, it's mindblowing.
Until the virus is subdued either by a vaccine or by a global campaign of strategically coordinated lockdowns — which one Harvard study estimated would take two years (Archive) to work — daily life is likely to be defined by efforts to manage the pandemic.
Victor Davis Hansen, from Stanford, talking about ramifications of Covid-19. He's a historian who lived through the Hong Kong Flu, has some good perspective on what's going on nationally with testing and internationally with China's reputation.

TL;DR China has lost all credibility, we're at the start of a new Cold War. Also, there are a lot of tests.


This came up on 4chan, claimed it resulted from the Wuhan Labs hack. While I don't believe a word of it, what do we know about Dr. Zhengli Shi?

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Victor Davis Hansen, from Stanford, talking about ramifications of Covid-19. He's a historian who lived through the Hong Kong Flu, has some good perspective on what's going on nationally with testing and internationally with China's reputation.
TL;DR China has lost all credibility, we're at the start of a new Cold War. Also, there are a lot of tests:

What's happening now? I've not been following much of the "news" because it's all utter bollocks and grievance mongering by petty hacks still angry Labour's not in power.

Speaking of Labour Here's this bit of hilarity about fucking PPE from some Labour bod who's braincells were never installed
Here's this bit of hilarity about fucking PPE from some Labour bod who's braincells were never installed (Archive)
We don't actually know that much about the relative strength of strains. There's a lot of noise, it's very early to try and draw conclusions.

Bret Weinstein talked about the Spanish Flu, says there's reasons to suspect widespread use of Aspirin contributed to its lethality.

100 years after the fact and we can't precisely answer why it killed so many people. I'm sure we're going to be looking at this one 100 years from now and scratching our heads.

Bret Weinstein talked about the Spanish Flu, says there's reasons to suspect widespread use of Aspirin contributed to its lethality :

Tegnell said sampling and modeling data indicated that 20% of Stockholm’s population is already immune to the virus, and that “in a few weeks’ time we might reach herd immunity and we believe that is why we’re seeing a slow decline in cases, in spite of sampling (testing for the coronavirus) more and more.”

so a good deal of their population is already immune, cases are declining, the health care system hasn't collapsed AND their economy hasn't been destroyed.
No lockdown in Sweden but Stockholm could see herd immunity in weeks (Archive)
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One of the ways they measure loss is by number of life years lost.

So if five people who are 30 kill themselves, and we assume they had 50 years of life left, then loss of life years is 250 years. If five 80 year old die loss of life is maybe a few years.
Think of how many flavors of Soylent we could have it we started melting people at the age of 60 like the Kaelons.
 
The funny thing is most of the people in the risk groups don't even work anyway. You could order them to stay home and it wouldn't disrupt their lives that much. You could even give the few who still work in their 60s a pass to miss work.

Don't most young leftists despise old people for being white and voting conservative anyway? This is a perfect example of olds exercising their voting power to protect themselves at the expense of the young and even the whole country.
yet they're saying nothing.

And who is providing heroic healthcare for Esther, so she can go back to her nursing home for another year? Younger folks!

I doubt their morale will stay high for long as they continue to see their own personal lives destroyed by all this BS.

In my case, yes, am in a high-risk group and am retired. Only real hassles I have had with house arrest is being treated like shit at the store/bank and shortage of certain goods. Still go out walking, etc. Home most of the day anyway.

Young leftists may despise me, but I give not flying fuck one about them. Better believe I vote, every time, to protect the country. And rest assured I'll be voting for President Trump in November.

The younger people are doing all manner of things - firefighter, military member, health care provider, EMT, etc. I respect that. But I did the same during my time. And the things I did allowed the younger people to be born and grow up in a free country. My generation has passed the baton to them, and one day they'll pass that baton to the next generation.

I fully understand a triage system if needed, but believe it needs to be on a case-by-case basis.

Some other stuff:

Looks like Big Bill will be leaning on some of these wanna-be dictator "governors". Outstanding! Might be one reason why police in Sacramento did nothing about the demonstration in front of the CA State Capitol building yesterday.




Seriously, how much more stupid can this bitch make herself look? Recall her. My three-year-old granddaughter could do a better job than Ms. Empty-Headed Hitler.


 
I am holding out hope for the Sweden herd immunity plan. They say within a few months in Stockholm they'll have herd immunity. In New York 15% of pregnant women in a sample were actively infected. The amount of people with antibodies could be gigantic.

2019: Sweden is mocked by its "tolerance"
2020: Sweden is vindicated by its "tolerance"
 
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