Community Tard Baby General (includes brain dead kids) - Fundies and their genetic Fuckups; Parents of corpses in denial

[booklover]

I know every child has the right to an education, but...is Kayli even capable of learning anything? I could be wrong, but it doesn't seem like she is. Even in terms of socialization, it doesn't seem like it's possible.

Which is what upsets me. If that is the case, money is being taken from the Special Education fund to put in ramps, etc. for a child who cannot learn. And therefore, taking money way from other students who need things like sensory items, technology, Do you know how many schools don't have a sensory/cool down room for their students and need one? You have kids that need a break so they can de-stress, collet themselves, go back to class & learn. And that's what a sensory/cool down room is for. But instead, that money is being spent on a child who probably won't get much out of education. Why doesn't see go to a school for children with profound physical/intellectual disabilities (assuming she isn't in one)...those schools are equipped for wheelchairs, ventilators, etc. and the staff is highly trained to assist those kids.

This is probably the only website I've ever seen where a person could say this and get away with it.

 

[large_farva]

if you want nightmares tonight

Spoiler: NSFL

this is "talking"

mom's voice is creepier than kayli

There's more life in the beach ball

 

[booklover]

I see an older couple who have an adult son with severe CP and mental exceptionalism, but the son is responsive to his environment and is obviously aware on some level. When I see his elderly father out pushing him in a special chair for walks it reminds me of how powerful love can be, even if it sometimes is heartbreaking too. They are wonderful people, quietly and selflessly caring for their adult child. I can only imagine the work and sacrifice it has taken. But their son is aware, he smiles when the sun and the wind hit his face.

I used to work with a woman whose son is like that. He cannot speak or do anything for himself except feed himself finger food, but he is definitely aware of his surroundings and they love him enormously. A few years ago, they tried putting him in a care facility, but they missed him too much and brought him back home. They do have a strong support network so that helps a lot too.

 

[T.J. O'Pootertoot]

if you want nightmares tonight

Spoiler: NSFL

this is "talking"
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There's more life in the beach ball

My god, that is a nightmare. I hope that Kayli truly has no awareness because that would be locked-in syndrome for 11 years with this insane mother behaving as if she can respond.

 

[Blonde Bomb]

The vegetable state is horror movie stuff.

I see an older couple who have an adult son with severe CP and mental exceptionalism, but the son is responsive to his environment and is obviously aware on some level. When I see his elderly father out pushing him in a special chair for walks it reminds me of how powerful love can be, even if it sometimes is heartbreaking too. They are wonderful people, quietly and selflessly caring for their adult child. I can only imagine the work and sacrifice it has taken. But their son is aware, he smiles when the sun and the wind hit his face.

Kayli’s mom, and her ilk, do the opposite and remind me how selfish people can be. Kayli isn’t aware, all the outings and outfits are for mom’s glory. Kayli is just a meat puppet mom can do as she pleases with. Kindness would have been letting her die years ago, or now caring for her at home and keeping her comfortable. Instead her mother does the opposite and uses her as a horrifying doll for public attention and “krusades”

She makes Gwen Hartley look like mom of the year. At least Gwen didn‘t force the public school system to accommodate the potatoes. Lola and Claire were animated compared to the 3-D Mvunch painting that is Kayli.

Okay, this may be a power level, but I have a very close family member with profound Autism. Severe. Not verbal, he's non-diploma bound, still struggling with toilet training...but his parents understand that the world isn't going to change from him. Yes, there are allowances made, but they do not expect everything to stop and adjust to him. They make sure he has the necessary interventions & therapies so he can exist in as normal a world as possible and be comfortable in it. They've taken him to Disney World, and while there are accommodations that are made, they don't make everyone else listen to him fuss & cry. They don't ruin other people's experiences. And it's hard. They don't get to do everything they thought they'd be able to do with their child. But they love him exactly as he is, even as hard and as stressful as it is. They have another child & they don't want his existence to be defined by his brother having Autism. They've made sure their younger child gets 'normal' childhood experiences and even took him to Disney with just them for his birthday, since they realized he had never really experienced the parks without his brother, who makes it difficult to have the full 'Disney experience'.

The point is, it's a balance. It's an adjustment of expectations & being 100% selfless. Ever parent gives up a part of themselves & their independence when they have a child, but it's even moreso with special needs parents. My family members will never be free from the responsibility of having a severely disabled child. There's no 'leaving the nest'. This is their life until the day they die. And it terrifies them what happens to him after they die, even with a special will in place. Does Kayli's mother have that mentality? No. She puts Kayli in places & positions that she may not like, merely for attention and asspats. As I was exploring the Kayli Krusade page, I saw a post where the mother said when Kayli was born, she'd fuss if she was placed chest to chest with the mother. And the mother said she said something like "Girl, you need to do this. Mommy needs this." Fuck that. I can completely understand the maternal desire to hold & cuddle & comfort your baby, but your disabled infant displays distress and agitation when you hold her in that position. Don't do it. I know they didn't know how long she'd survive, but still...why make your baby unnecessarily uncomfortable? Not to mention it may have affects on her heart rate, breathing, blood pressure, etc.

Sorry, I know this isn't suppose to get personal, but it is for me, which I know, is a farms no-no. I'll try to rein it in in the future. Just had to get that off my chest.

 

[vanilla_pepsi_head]

I went to school with a kid that might've had what Kayli has. I wish I could remember his name because if he's still alive I'd be willing to bet his parents have a bunch of faggoty social media I could post here, if it was a thing back then they definitely would've. This kid was wheelchair bound and didn't move, had a feeding tube and trach, same facial expression as Kayli, I remember thinking he resembled the Pokemon Muk and that he belonged in a hospital, not a school.

The special ed classroom had like a rubber room that they basically stuck the hopeless potatoes in because their parents needed a break (and probably didn't want to violate truancy laws), while the minimally cognisant kids had what looked like a kindergarten classroom attached. (I remember a delightful Down's girl who they taught to read and write fairly well and was able to participate somewhat in regular classes, she spent time in there learning behavioral management and speech therapy, her parents did an excellent job with her and she's an active, productive member of the community today. There was also a kid with extremely severe cerebral palsy that sat in on some regular classes because he kinda tried to communicate and they weren't sure how much intellectual capacity he had, he wasn't disruptive at all and they figured intellectual stimulation couldn't hurt. So I don't want to shit on our spec ed people, but some of these kids were just wasting their time.)

Anyway, Muk's parents were gigantic fundie faggots that insisted he was actually smart but just had locked-in syndrome, even though I don't think his head had room for a brain, and they made enough ruckus that the school started letting him sit in on normal classes. He made noises, viciously shat himself regularly, and his aide was constantly (literally every 3 minutes or so) suctioning mucus/vomit from his trach. Loudly. It was incredibly gross and distracting, not to mention frightening for a lot of kids. If it was an attempt to desensitize us to horrific shit then I guess it kinda worked, but I don't think that it what his parents were going for.

 

[Cheesegirl78]

I went to school with a kid that might've had what Kayli has. I wish I could remember his name because if he's still alive I'd be willing to bet his parents have a bunch of faggoty social media I could post here, if it was a thing back then they definitely would've. This kid was wheelchair bound and didn't move, had a feeding tube and trach, same facial expression as Kayli, I remember thinking he resembled the Pokemon Muk and that he belonged in a hospital, not a school.

The special ed classroom had like a rubber room that they basically stuck the hopeless potatoes in because their parents needed a break (and probably didn't want to violate truancy laws), while the minimally cognisant kids had what looked like a kindergarten classroom attached. (I remember a delightful Down's girl who they taught to read and write fairly well and was able to participate somewhat in regular classes, she spent time in there learning behavioral management and speech therapy, her parents did an excellent job with her and she's an active, productive member of the community today. There was also a kid with extremely severe cerebral palsy that sat in on some regular classes because he kinda tried to communicate and they weren't sure how much intellectual capacity he had, he wasn't disruptive at all and they figured intellectual stimulation couldn't hurt. So I don't want to shit on our spec ed people, but some of these kids were just wasting their time.)

Anyway, Muk's parents were gigantic fundie faggots that insisted he was actually smart but just had locked-in syndrome, even though I don't think his head had room for a brain, and they made enough ruckus that the school started letting him sit in on normal classes. He made noises, viciously shat himself regularly, and his aide was constantly (literally every 3 minutes or so) suctioning mucus/vomit from his trach. Loudly. It was incredibly gross and distracting, not to mention frightening for a lot of kids. If it was an attempt to desensitize us to horrific shit then I guess it kinda worked, but I don't think that it what his parents were going for.

And this is SO distracting for the other kids, how are they supposed to learn while all this is going on?

 

[The Husbando Collector]

And this is SO distracting for the other kids, how are they supposed to learn while all this is going on?

None whatsoever. As I've said a plethora of times before on this thread, school districts need to learn how to put their foot down and say no to these batshit fucks, hell, maybe even rewrite the ADA act so these fuckers don't fuck over the majority of people for their fee-fees.

 

[Cheesegirl78]

None whatsoever. As I've said a plethora of times before on this thread, school districts need to learn how to put their foot down and say no to these batshit fucks, hell, maybe even rewrite the ADA act so these fuckers don't fuck over the majority of people for their fee-fees.

Oh, yes.
If the child Vanilla described above was in one of my kid's classes, I would be giving the school hell over this.
I have pity for handicapped kids, but something like this is beyond a child getting an education; it's about the parents desire for attention.

 

[Android raptor]

If Kayli has any awareness I doubt she appreciates her mom talking to her in that obnoxious baby voice. Even with severely retarded people it's best to talk to them with the same tone and shit you'd use for anyone else their age because that baby voice shit is beyond obnoxious and patronizing (especially if you have to deal with it constantly). That's one of the things Gwen did that was so obnoxious, like she'd talk about her gremlins like they were sassy teens but turn around and talk to them like they were babies or pets or something.

If Kayli's school has a pool it makes me think it's some kind of special school. At least where I live regular public schools don't have pools even in well off areas (and alternative schools usually have even less than the regular schools). Is it possibly some kind of private or charter school?

 

[MirnaMinkoff]

If Kayli has any awareness I doubt she appreciates her mom talking to her in that obnoxious baby voice. Even with severely exceptional people it's best to talk to them with the same tone and shit you'd use for anyone else their age because that baby voice shit is beyond obnoxious and patronizing (especially if you have to deal with it constantly). That's one of the things Gwen did that was so obnoxious, like she'd talk about her gremlins like they were sassy teens but turn around and talk to them like they were babies or pets or something.

If Kayli's school has a pool it makes me think it's some kind of special school. At least where I live regular public schools don't have pools even in well off areas (and alternative schools usually have even less than the regular schools). Is it possibly some kind of private or charter school?

Where I went to school the county had a building that was on the grounds of an elementary school that housed two groups - the profoundly disabled retarded kids (and I shit you not) the gifted programs. So one side of the building the vegetables and lowest IQs and on the other side the highest.

Maybe they only had the budget for one building for all the “special“ programs. But it did keep kids like Kayli out of the regular school and within a program suited for the profoundly disabled and retarded. There were programs in schools for kids that were just a bit slow or had typical learning disabilities- but the tarded kids had their own space away from the rest.

i can’t fathom forcing profoundly retarded and disabled kids into regular classrooms because it entirely unfair to both the disabled and regular kids.

 

[AnOminous]

i can’t fathom forcing profoundly exceptional and disabled kids into regular classrooms because it entirely unfair to both the disabled and regular kids.

It seems pretty typical these days to put political correctness far, far above the actual health and welfare of those subjected to these idiotic policies.

 

[A Detachable Penis]

Theres kids with physical challenges like DMD and CP that deserve to be in regular classrooms because they can learn, but the school doesnt have the resources.

And then you have potatoes taking up all the resources. The fuck.

 

[Bananasaurus]

They've taken him to Disney World, and while there are accommodations that are made, they don't make everyone else listen to him fuss & cry. They don't ruin other people's experiences. And it's hard. They don't get to do everything they thought they'd be able to do with their child.

Slight OT but I never understood why all parents of "special" kids are so obsessed with Disney World. Yes, it's the "happiest place on earth"... When you're a neurotypical kid. A noisy, colorful, overcrowded place is an autist's worst nightmare.
Reminds me a bit of the Killen Clan. Massive trainwreck of a family that maybe deserves their own thread. 4 biological and two adopted kids with severe disabilities, mom only gives a shit about the bio kids, dad doesn't give a shit about anything apart from his video games. They sent in letters to the Make a Wish foundation for their 15 year-old wheelchair-bound kid who is also mostly blind and suffering from PTSD (!) and cerebral palsy. And of course they wanted a Disney trip for the entire family. Of course. Let me know if there is any interest in discussing that family and maybe I can put a thread together. They don't really belong in here because all their kids sadly do have some awareness of their situation.

 

[MysticMisty]

Slight OT but I never understood why all parents of "special" kids are so obsessed with Disney World.

Because they think they deserve the Disney parks that much more than everyone else. The thing though is that theme parks aren't for everybody. There are otherwise completely normal people with motion sickness and fear of heights who would find an amusement park an absolute nightmare scenario. And claustrophobics probably aren't about to get on The Haunted Mansion either.

The excuse that I usually see is that they claim the rides are "therapeutic". No they never really elaborate on how or why, and of fucking course they won't accept a video of the ride on YouTube either. Because it's really for the parents more than anything else. Hence why people flipped their shit and attempted to sue Disney over "violating" the ADA act when Disney closed loopholes about skipping lines after people started bragging about gaming the system in large numbers (to the point that some parents lied about their kids being super autistic to skip lines).

Case in point about it being a bad idea overall, last summer this group of mentally disabled people went to one of the parks (can't remember if it was California or Florida) with their personal handlers. One autistic person decided he didn't want to ride Space Mountain after all and climbed out of the ride car after the ride had already started. And because it's Space Mountain they didn't see he'd climbed out until after the ride ended and they pulled into the station. The only reason he's not dead is because by sheer dumb luck he climbed out when they were climbing the hill, and stepped out onto a catwalk instead of the ride track, and then didn't fall off the catwalk while fumbling around in the dark.

So they had to stop everything, turn on the lights, and haul his tard ass back down to the station. All while the handlers told the minimum wage workers that they aren't allowed to be mad or upset this happened because he's autistic and "doesn't know" any better. Even though there was a 0% chance they didn't know he was prone to this shit and decided it'd be okay to take him anyways.

 

[Blonde Bomb]

Slight OT but I never understood why all parents of "special" kids are so obsessed with Disney World. Yes, it's the "happiest place on earth"... When you're a neurotypical kid. A noisy, colorful, overcrowded place is an autist's worst nightmare.
Reminds me a bit of the Killen Clan. Massive trainwreck of a family that maybe deserves their own thread. 4 biological and two adopted kids with severe disabilities, mom only gives a shit about the bio kids, dad doesn't give a shit about anything apart from his video games. They sent in letters to the Make a Wish foundation for their 15 year-old wheelchair-bound kid who is also mostly blind and suffering from PTSD (!) and cerebral palsy. And of course they wanted a Disney trip for the entire family. Of course. Let me know if there is any interest in discussing that family and maybe I can put a thread together. They don't really belong in here because all their kids sadly do have some awareness of their situation.

I can only give insight into my own family, but part of it is that my family member with Autism actually enjoys it up to a point. He can 'zone out' with his iPad when it gets to be too much, he has a special needs stroller (because it's too much of a liability to let him roam on his own) with a big old visor he can pull down so a lot of the visual stimulation is drowned out. Like I said, if he starts to meltdown, we remove him so we don't disrupt other people's experiences. Disney is also very good about accommodating special needs families, providing sensory rooms & quiet places as needed. It helps him learn how to deal with places like this (because like I said, the world isn't going to change from him & we don't want him to be a complete shut in) and to be honest, the look on his face when he's having fun is worth it. He's done a lot of 'firsts' at Disney that a lot of people take for granted or don't count as firsts. He also, oddly enough, LOVES the roller coasters.

Disney also trains staff how to deal with special needs kids without making the families feel like a liability. You may have seen the story about a year ago of a little boy with Autism who was having a rough time, and the actress playing Snow White took him aside & just twirled with him for a bit. It calmed him down & meant the world to the family. Special needs families often feel alone & like they don't belong, or like charity cases. I know families who don't invite people to Thanksgiving because of their Autistic children. Disney gives them as close to a normal experience as they can get, honestly. That 'Disney magic' that every one (supposedly) experiences at the Disney parks.

But as I said, I can only speak to my personal experience. I know that Disney will always have a special place in my heart because my family member seems, oddly, very happy there.

 

[Android raptor]

Found another FB page for a kid with trisomy 18 though this one seems to actually have awareness and whatnot. Also an article about a couple whose fetus had trisomy 18. Unlike Kayli's mom and other horror show fundies, they wanted to abort specifically because they wanted to spare their kid from suffering horribly.

 

[large_farva]

I ran across this during munchie hunting, and I felt it was a good fit for this thread, but not because the mom is insane the mom has a key difference that sets her apart from most on this thread - she is realistic about the injuries, prognosis and treatment for her severely brain injured baby. She accepts that her child has a severe brain injury, she doesn't seem to demand unnecessary treatments to keep her alive, but instead is caring for her the best she can. Plenty of religion, MLM shilling and social media presence, but mom's realistic and doesn't tout every movement or noise from her child as a miracle. Sharing here because it seems like a good contrast, to show there's another way to live that life- without denial, magical thinking, and general unpleasantness of someone who demands attention for themselves because of their special child. I'm trying to do this without bringing them up on google search result.

initial image that drew me in:

Spoiler: IG post

a mom realistic enough to describe her child's brain as "liquified" deserved a closer look

Spoiler: Story

My Story

I want to tell you my life story in hopes of encouraging you to not give up when you go through trials. I have been through several in my 24 years of life. From losing my dad at a young age, to goi…

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Video of her telling her story from fb page

Spoiler: social media links

the facebook page is called Prayers for Christa

 

[Bananasaurus]

I can only give insight into my own family, but part of it is that my family member with Autism actually enjoys it up to a point. He can 'zone out' with his iPad when it gets to be too much, he has a special needs stroller (because it's too much of a liability to let him roam on his own) with a big old visor he can pull down so a lot of the visual stimulation is drowned out. Like I said, if he starts to meltdown, we remove him so we don't disrupt other people's experiences. Disney is also very good about accommodating special needs families, providing sensory rooms & quiet places as needed. It helps him learn how to deal with places like this (because like I said, the world isn't going to change from him & we don't want him to be a complete shut in) and to be honest, the look on his face when he's having fun is worth it. He's done a lot of 'firsts' at Disney that a lot of people take for granted or don't count as firsts. He also, oddly enough, LOVES the roller coasters.

Disney also trains staff how to deal with special needs kids without making the families feel like a liability. You may have seen the story about a year ago of a little boy with Autism who was having a rough time, and the actress playing Snow White took him aside & just twirled with him for a bit. It calmed him down & meant the world to the family. Special needs families often feel alone & like they don't belong, or like charity cases. I know families who don't invite people to Thanksgiving because of their Autistic children. Disney gives them as close to a normal experience as they can get, honestly. That 'Disney magic' that every one (supposedly) experiences at the Disney parks.

But as I said, I can only speak to my personal experience. I know that Disney will always have a special place in my heart because my family member seems, oddly, very happy there.

I didn't mean to attack your family and I understand that no two kids are alike, even if they might have the same condition. I believe you when you say that your family member has a good time there and I appreciate that your family does not have entitlement issues.

All I really wanted to say was that parents taking advantage of their tard to do something THEY enjoy but makes their kid miserable (prom for potato kids etc.) is a pretty common thing in internet parents. You'd think people who never shut up about their martyr status would put their offspring's wants and needs first but I guess not.

 

[Rescuetoast]

I ran across this during munchie hunting, and I felt it was a good fit for this thread, but not because the mom is insane the mom has a key difference that sets her apart from most on this thread - she is realistic about the injuries, prognosis and treatment for her severely brain injured baby. She accepts that her child has a severe brain injury, she doesn't seem to demand unnecessary treatments to keep her alive, but instead is caring for her the best she can. Plenty of religion, MLM shilling and social media presence, but mom's realistic and doesn't tout every movement or noise from her child as a miracle. Sharing here because it seems like a good contrast, to show there's another way to live that life- without denial, magical thinking, and general unpleasantness of someone who demands attention for themselves because of their special child. I'm trying to do this without bringing them up on google search result.

initial image that drew me in:

Spoiler: IG post

a mom realistic enough to describe her child's brain as "liquified" deserved a closer look
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Spoiler: Story

My Story

I want to tell you my life story in hopes of encouraging you to not give up when you go through trials. I have been through several in my 24 years of life. From losing my dad at a young age, to goi…

sierramariecooke.life

archive

Video of her telling her story from fb page
View attachment 1255568

Spoiler: social media links

the facebook page is called Prayers for Christa

Well, this one is just sad. How awful.