Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

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Not enough. McConnell, schumer and Pelosi still rule that roost. It will be a decade or two yet before we see a generational shift in congressional leadership. Ffs, the average age of senior leadership for the democratic party is the mid 70s. The Republican party by contrast has an average of the mid 60s, which is skewed hard by Trumps age. Take him out of the equation and the Republicans are almost 3 decades younger then the democrats. An interesting statistic that.
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TERM LIMITS.
TERM FUCKING LIMITS
I know I am god damn autistic about it but we should have did it when we did it for the Presidency, we should have fucking done it from the start.
But just because we didn't doesn't mean we shouldn't now.
 
RIP Bank Account. :stress:
Imagine being so triggered you have to spam this message on my profile.

I have more than enough cash, ammo and canned food for another six months. Nigga I telework. Stop projecting and shitting up this thread.

The wuflu was not worth an economic collapse. The sick and old should have just stayed home like they did in South Korea.
 
Reread what I said. I make a hard distinction between boomers and the boomers IN CHARGE. You understand. You had to take the stones of life. Our Boomer OVERLORDS on the other hand never did. When their number got pulled for the draft mommy and daddy were there with the waiver. We are the first republic in human history where our leadership is drawn almost exclusively from the cowards who fled the fire of the last war.

And its showing right now. Even Trump is a draft dodger let's not forget.
If you are offended then don't try to frame a class issue as a generational one. Spare us the Millennial sob story. Your problems aren't new.

Anyways, the class thing. If you worked hard to build something and risk losing it (middle-class, hey) you are chomping at the bit to get back to work. The bottom doesn't give a fuck because they live on gibs and the upper is wealthy enough they can ride out their wealth. This has put society in a situation where those with means/gibs don't want to stick their necks out at all and wish to lock everyone in their homes until the virus goes away while those that work wish to balance risks and shoot for herd immunity.
 
Michigan, USA

Governor Gretchen Whitmer (D) has defied the legislature's attempts to terminate our state of emergency, and declared a new state of emergency.

Mlive said:
The first of the three orders terminates the existing state of emergency and disaster declarations, and the second asserts that Michigan remains under a state of emergency under the Emergency Powers of the Governor Act of 1945.
The final order declares a new state of emergency and disaster under the Emergency Management Act of 1976. The new orders would run through 11:59 p.m. May 28.

This is almost certainly going to court.

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Soooooooo... Apple just released shiny new phones for the ridiculously low price of $200 each (via a Walmart special). Nobody knows why... I ordered one and I gotta wonder if the crazy low price has anything to do with tracking software or app compatibility...
their suppliers already said back in January they wouldn't be able to get out the planned iphone, this is essentially their fanta: a substitute based on what little material they have.

Basically they can use this to explain why they won't release an iphone in the fall of this year and then come may 2021 they will say "we finally ran the numbers and its better to release iphones in fall, they have a real autumn feel to them" essentially being able to explain away why Apple, a nominal phone company, will be unable to release a new cell phone in the next 18 months, outside of this cheap one.

Plus it successfully fucks with the low budget cell phone makers, which was a huge market in the later 2010s, especially once cell phones abandoned that "cheap with 24-month contract" bullshit in 2016. the Iphone 5 was only $200 with contract, which you would obviously get because its not like you're going to switch cell phone carriers every year. 7 years later 7 years later and the cheapest you can get the flagship iphone at launch is $1100.

You can tell this is them jury-rigging a new iphone because its literally just the Iphone 11 chip in an iphone 7 body.

Michigan, USA

Governor Gretchen Whitmer (D) has defied the legislature's attempts to terminate our state of emergency, and declared a new state of emergency.



This is almost certainly going to court.

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All it takes is one judge to side with her and we're all fucked. and she gets to decide the judge essentially. this is more rigged than a Detroit casino
 
The virus is not as bad as they are saying so we are crashing the economy for it makes sense.

Or

Its a legitimate issue they are having a hard time to figure out what they should do.

The article I posted was a doctor's opinion. Various doctors.

If you want to get to the brass tacks of this, medicine isn't my area of expertise, but geopolitics is.
This whole little experience we just lived through had very little to do with a virus and everything to do with politics and warfare.

This virus didn't happen by happy accident in a wet market. This virus was lab born and released, whether by fortune or accident. Regardless, China has been gearing up to do something like this for a very long time.
Why do you think there's so much extra activity in the South China Sea atm? Why do you think Kim Jong Un has been magically spirited away somewhere? Why, when pressed by Australia, does China flip its shit and threaten a bunch of economic powerplays? Why did this virus magically release in 2020, election year? Why did lockdowns come as the go-to method and why is it mostly effecting the West and it's allies the hardest?

When it first came out, a lot of people in government, at least in the AP region, were operating on a security basis. That's why you had Taiwan, SK etc not shut down their economies. They knew if this was bioterrorism, they had to keep their economies moving, because you can't fight a war when you're poor.

Other countries had other tactics. Other countries trusted "experts" over their intel. Those "experts", especially in Australia and New Zealand have deep ties to Chinese money. These are research associations that get the majority of their grants from China. They were wrongly trusted.

We only have to look at the WHO and see how it's acted as a front for the CCP in this.

China built a warship whilst Wuhan was in lockdown. I wonder why that was?
They've also been withholding the flow along the Mekong River. Effectively turning the lower basins to dust - impacting Thailand, Laos and Vietnam greatly. This article is from earlier this month. What they've been doing has been building to a fever pitch culminating during this virus "crisis".

China has their 50 cent gang primed to act during this "crisis". They know America is already divided due to Trump and they knew that democratic govs would use this crisis to wage their own personal wars with Trump, leaving the nation even more divided. No one is paying attention to China, they're all fighting with each other, demanding that the economy doesn't start back up to win political points for their team.

So why did you have economies crash over a virus? You didn't.
You had a novel virus, that we were sold as being SARS, but more transmissive, who's entire narrative was being controlled by China and funneled through a veneer of credibility in the WHO.
This is a new type of warfare with China we're living, whilst we deal with a virus that's got a low IFR, but is being co-opted by bad actors in our midst as a means to wage their own personal wars, all the while China is exploiting the fuck out of it. China's goal was to crash economies. They exploited the stupidity of countries and their political climates via a virus as a means to do it.

Everything that doctor said, that was in that article is correct. The virus is something we can manage. The goal now needs to be to restart economies, because you cannot manage an economic war with China if you're completely broke.
 
Cope Harder.

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Okay Mr. Bigbrain, since you think we are all science-deniers, lets look at what actual studies have to say about this infection lethality rate:

0.66% estimate from British epidemiologists examining ChiCom numbers
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0.37% estimate from an anti-body study in Germany
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Raw study in German
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0.17% estimate based on an antibody study in California
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Now all 3 are still subject to peer review, as they were just recently performed and published, so it will take some time before we know the ins-and-outs of the this thing; but for all practical purposes it is safe to bet that the true infection lethality rate is about 0.25-0.6%.

So please, continue to support cowering in fear while the economy atrophies itself.
Please let us all go broke and hungry and subject ourselves to the conditions of an economic depression just to stave off the effects of a virus that 99.3-99.8% of us will survive.

Go lick your doorknobs, Doomer.

Those numbers are high any epidemic faces the same issue of under reporting not everyone makes it for the test. What is your point these numbers are staggering. Imagine Flu numbers in the event we locked down and quarantined they would be minuscule.

Shits worse then regular and more people are dying under lockdown conditions which you would assume less people would die during a lockdown, and we are in lockdown mode. Use your brain. It's really not that hard.
 
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Some small municipalities in Japan began distributing on Thursday one-off cash handouts to people to help cushion them from the economic fallout related to the new coronavirus’ spread.

His Royal Highness Cuomo today said the NYS Fair, Saratoga Racetrack, and pretty much any other events statewide are cancelled this year. No local/regional events that would draw people from other areas until NYC/NJ/CT are fully open. So not til fall, but then it's flu season and Wave 2 so really 2021. Probably forget about county fairs, indoor and outdoor concerts, your local pickle festival, etc. Not seeing a scenario under his rules where theme parks open, or tourist lake towns like in the Finger Lakes or Lake George. Tourism is dead in the State of NY effectively this year.

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Today is the 1st of May. I was expecting violent riots and protests by the usual suspects today about how the governments of the world are keeping workers under house arrest.

Instead, we got online demonstrations on fucking Facebook.

To paraphrase Revenge of the Sith, "This is how democracy dies, with a bunch of Facebook likes."

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