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Yamma Damma said:
Speak of the spider devil: Spiderverse 2 got pushed back a few months. Original date was April 8th.
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Cyril I get what you're saying but Spiderverse was the kick in the ass cinematic-Spiderman needed. Hell, it got people to actually like Miles and Gwen outside of cosplay-fodder. It's capeshit, they'll go to the fucking DMV if it means a new story to molk fanbucks from. Your favorites will get their day in the sun, changing trends and Wuflu be damned.
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April 8th of what year? I get that the virus is hurting production, but if it's affecting stuff coming out in years from now...
 
Yamma Damma said:
Cyril I get what you're saying but Spiderverse was the kick in the ass cinematic-Spiderman needed. Hell, it got people to actually like Miles and Gwen outside of cosplay-fodder.
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And that's a good thing? They're both such absurdly derivative characters you've really got to ask what the point is beyond finding more ways to milk the Spider-Man brand for all it's worth.

Yamma Damma said:
It's capeshit, they'll go to the fucking DMV if it means a new story to molk fanbucks from. Your favorites will get their day in the sun, changing trends and Wuflu be damned.
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I'd really rather that they didn't. I'm quite happy with the original 2099 stories, imperfect as they are, and not particularly interested in seeing them revisited in The Current Year by whatever soy-sucking chuckleheads would end up in charge of the project.

Private Pyle said:
Not to spoil anything but as a fellow Miguel O’Hara fan; if you saw Into the Spider-Verse all the way through to the very end, there’s a good reason to be excited for the sequel.
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Thank you for the empathy. I do appreciate it, but as I said above, I'm not really interested in seeing new adaptations of my old favorites at this point in time. I mean, look at how Star Trek: Picard turned out...

Private Pyle said:
It got to they point that they were legitimately expecting Spider-Verse 2 to be this racist/sexist fest and swearing off the franchise.
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I dunno... it seems to me that if the Miles and Spider-Gwen characters proceed from anything other than pure greed on Marvel's part, it's an implicitly racist/sexist belief that new non-white or female characters can't survive and thrive in and of themselves, and so need to appropriate the iconography and abilities of proven superheroes in order to be successful.

Private Pyle said:
At the very end of VLD, Allura sacrificed herself to save the entire universe. Many fans saw this as extremely racist and sexist due to the fact that Allura had the appearance of a young black woman in the reboot.
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I would say that she has the appearance of a young Drow woman, but whatever. The fact that what was undoubtedly intended to be a concession to "diversity," by changing Alura from pale-skinned and blonde to dark-skinned and white-haired, came back to bite the showrunners in the ass with accusations of "racism"... well, like Matthew Good sang, "it's fucking funny, don't you think?"

Private Pyle said:
As such, because Miles is black and Gwen is female, they assume horrible shit will befall on their faves.
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When I was growing up, my favorite Star Wars character for the longest time was that nameless A-Wing pilot who dies when his critically-damaged starfighter smashes into the command tower of the Super Star Destroyer Executor...

soy_king said:
Has anyone brought up Song of the Sea yet? It's from the same studio that brought us the Secret of Kells, but without all the Eurofag muh diversity. It's probably one of the best recent animated Western films, alongside Becoming Vincent.
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Saw it with my little sister a few years back. She was quite enchanted by it, and kept asking me if I thought that she was like Saoirse, the little girl in the story.

On a similar note, has anyone mentioned Klaus yet? It's kind of in the same vein as a European-animated feature film that somehow managed to miraculously avoid any anachronistic modern demographic composition in the population of the remote, 19th century Scandinavian fishing village in which the story is set. It is yet another secular Santa Claus story, but a very clever, heartfelt one, and features what's probably the most incredible animation I've ever seen. Seriously, it's like someone took a Bill Peet storybook and somehow magicked the illustrations to life.

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Also, it was directed by former Disney character-artist Sergio Pablos (who cut his teeth on The Goofy Movie before going on to animate Frollo in The Hunchback of Notre Dame, Hades in Hercules and Dr. Doppler in Treasure Planet), and features Norm Fucking Macdonald as part of the voice-cast.
 
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I have so many questions within the American animation industry for example
1. why only people that were from CalArts that got hired most of the time despite there are other animation schools like the School of the Museum of Fine Arts from Boston, The University of Visual Arts in Tucson or The Pratt Institute in New York

2. why hire people from twitter despite there are site like Artstation to find some animators

3. Why the animation industry didn't hire writers and script editor anymore I'm just tired of the plot inconsistency of recent animation I get it animators have that the animators have their vision in their work but with script editor at least have a quality control when it comes to writing
 
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Anti pedo said:
I have so many questions within the American animation industry for example
1. why only people that were from CalArts that got hired most of the time despite there are other animation schools like the School of the Museum of Fine Arts from Boston, The University of Visual Arts in Tucson or The Pratt Institute in New York

2. why hire people from twitter despite there are site like Artstation to find some animators

3. Why the animation industry didn't hire writers and script editor anymore I'm just tired of the plot inconsistency of recent animation I get it animators have that the animators have their vision in their work but with script editor at least have a quality control when it comes to writing
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1. It’s not only CalArts people actually. Just off the top of my head, Rebecca Sugar, Dana Terrace and Ian Jones Quartey graduated from the School of Visual Arts in New York, while Owen Dennis comes from Minneapolis College of Art and Design. Some didn’t even go to art school. The overwhelming amount of CalArts graduates in the industry seems to come from the fact that the art school is in such close proximity to LA, creating a pool to draw from.

2. Twitter is a much more versatile social media platform to advertise your work and it makes it easy to go mainstream whereas Artstation isn’t that known to the general public. The fact that most companies will already have a social media presence makes networking easier.

3. Not all shows are storyboard driven; script driven shows will still have standard writers and editors. Even board driven shows will still have writers and editors, they just function a bit differently from a script driven shows. As for why plot inconsistencies still happen...well, some people plain suck at their jobs.
 
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Private Pyle said:
3. Not all shows are storyboard driven; script driven shows will still have standard writers and editors. Even board driven shows will still have writers and editors, they just function a bit differently from a script driven shows. As for why plot inconsistencies still happen...well, some people plain suck at their jobs.
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Plus people who aren't autists don't absolutely remember what other writers have wrote.
 
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Steamboat_Bill said:
I don't know how many of you heard this, but there was a little controversy earlier this week when Kyle Carrozza found out that someone had tried to get a job on a show by trying to pass off his art as theirs.

He was not happy about it.
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Yeah, /co/ currently has a thread about art thieves (archive) up right now and the kind of bullshit MixxMasterMedia (the guy who tried to pass off Carrozza's work as their own) is really disturbing.

But then again, this IS 4chan we're talking about here...

EDIT: Now with links to the thread and the thread's page on Desuarchive at @Steamboat_Bill's request.
 
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Archeops said:
Yeah, /co/ currently has a thread about art thieves up right now and the kind of bullshit MixxMasterMedia (the guy who tried to pass off Carrozza's work as their own) is really disturbing.

But then again, this IS 4chan we're talking about here...
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Carrozza confirmed most of it. And this happens often enough that it doesn't really need to be.

Please link to the thread, incidentally.
 
Steamboat_Bill said:
Carrozza confirmed most of it. And this happens often enough that it doesn't really need to be.

Please link to the thread, incidentally.
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How much of a dumbass do you have to be to use the work of an actual show creator to get an animation job? I mean passing them off for social media clicks or whatever, that's just you wanting to be popular without trying, but this? That's just asinine.
 
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XtrmGamr719 said:
How much of a dumbass do you have to be to use the work of an actual show creator to get an animation job? I mean passing them off for social media clicks or whatever, that's just you wanting to be popular without trying, but this? That's just asinine.
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Like I said, this happens a lot. Not just with show creators either. Supposedly this was so rampant at CalArts back in the day - people would steal the students' work off of the walls for their portfolios - that they have to keep the art in special protective covers now so no one can do that.

Of course, it never works and the culprits are always inevitably found out. But they keep trying.
 
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Steamboat_Bill said:
Carrozza confirmed most of it. And this happens often enough that it doesn't really need to be.

Please link to the thread, incidentally.
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I've added a link to the thread and its Desuarchive page (just in case /co/ mods become fags) to the original post. The stuff about stalking and harrassing various content/show creators via alternate accounts was what I was referring to as being disturbing.
 
Archeops said:
I've added a link to the thread and its Desuarchive page (just in case /co/ mods become fags) to the original post. The stuff about stalking and harrassing various content/show creators via alternate accounts was what I was referring to as being disturbing.
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>drew sexualized art of his own 9 year old sister
>apparently had fantasies about impregnating Vivziepop
>is infamous enough that Viv and the creator of Satina know about and tell others to stay away
Jesus, I was expecting a lulzy thread about an autistic art thief, not a horror show. On the other hand, we might have a new artcow on our hands.
 
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Private Pyle said:
>drew sexualized art of his own 9 year old sister
>apparently had fantasies about impregnating Vivziepop
>is infamous enough that Viv and the creator of Satina know about and tell others to stay away
Jesus, I was expecting a lulzy thread about an autistic art thief, not a horror show. On the other hand, we might have a new artcow on our hands.
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Whenever you think there was no one that could possibly top or match Shadman...you realize that humanity can reach new goals of horrid.
 
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