Community Tard Baby General (includes brain dead kids) - Fundies and their genetic Fuckups; Parents of corpses in denial

[howmanypizzas69]

In the natural course of events, wouldn't such a child die soon after birth, anyway? Do they even have a nursing reflex? It seems like to whatever extent God is involved, he made it a self solving problem.

Yes, the ones that make it to 30+ weeks often die during labor and if they are born alive they’ll only live for a few hours to a few days. The American academy of pediatrics has guidelines about how/when to resuscitate or support newborns right after birth and anencephaly is on their “this is basically a death sentence, DNR” list of birth defects. Very rarely they’ll be in better shape (having slightly more brain past just a brainstem is probably advantageous here) and pushy parents could pressure doctors into more interventions than they’d normally do.

 

[sperginity]

In the natural course of events, wouldn't such a child die soon after birth, anyway? Do they even have a nursing reflex? It seems like to whatever extent God is involved, he made it a self solving problem.

many of them have their brains exposed at birth, and die very quickly. It is a neural tube defect... early in development the materials that will become your brain and spinal chord, as well as the 3 layered barrier around it, start out as a little tube, and if you have certain vitamin deficiencies then you are at a higher risk of the tube forming improperly. If something is wrong with the tube you can end up with a hole in your spine or spinal cord (spina bifida), or if the top end doesn't close properly you end up with anencephaly. It is some serious shit.

 

[booklover]

https://youtu.be/1zLt6iUzcUI have we discussed this hideous blasphemy??? her MOUTH AND THEM DAMN TEETH!!!!

looks like the monster tries to suckle when anything hits her mouth like the one and only lola

This girl died recently.

I don't think she belongs in this thread, because she appeared to be a normal baby at birth and then stopped meeting milestones after a certain period of time, but her parents kept her at home and cared for her as best they could until the inevitable end came. I've seen their channel, and it was really obvious to me that they loved her very much.

Power level but fuck it: Have a relative who carried anencephalic twins to term because 1970s and Catholic and Midwest US. I can’t even imagine. She didn’t have the choice then. The fact that this could even be a possibility makes me pro choice to the end.

Twins?!? ZOMG how heartbreaking. Did she know her babies were that way before they were born?

Michael Dukakis (Google him if the name isn't familiar; his nickname was "Zorba The Clerk") and his wife's first baby had anencephaly and lived 20 minutes; he mentioned her more than once in presidential debates, and George Bush v. 1.0 understood on his own level because he too had experienced the death of a child (leukemia at age 3). IDK if they knew ahead of time, either. This was in the early 1960s, before ultrasound.

I used to work with a woman whose son is like that. He cannot speak or do anything for himself except feed himself finger food, but he is definitely aware of his surroundings and they love him enormously. A few years ago, they tried putting him in a care facility, but they missed him too much and brought him back home. They do have a strong support network so that helps a lot too.

Update: She posted on Facebook today that this is his birthday. She posted pictures of him in a tractor cab with his dad and doing other things he enjoys. He wouldn't understand why he had a big piece of cake and why everyone sang to him, but he would know that he was being given something that tasted good and that people were happy to see him.

While I was googling about anoxic brain injury, I found case of a young boy who ended up like Eva, but then recovered to near normal. It varies so wildly with traumatic brain injury.

I used to work at a pharmacy that serviced nursing homes, and the most common reason people under the age of 50 or so were in there was "anoxic brain injury." Apparently, this was mostly divided between near-drowning, asthma attack, suicide attempt by hanging, and everything else.

The 2nd most common? Down Syndrome.

 

[Toohottotrot]

Downs can lead to dementia by the age of 20

 

[bigfart420666]

idk i get the sense that the mikayla girl was more of a burden. she reminded me of lola tbh.

it’s really hard for me to believe that she was normal like as normal as my baby, and then just became a potato to the likes of the hartleys? it’s so hard to imagine that scenario.

 

[AnOminous]

idk i get the sense that the mikayla girl was more of a burden. she reminded me of lola tbh.

it’s really hard for me to believe that she was normal like as normal as my baby, and then just became a potato to the likes of the hartleys? it’s so hard to imagine that scenario.

Rett Syndrome does this. The infant starts out normal and develops normally for 6-18 months, and then slowly loses everything. It's really fucking awful.

 

[John Merston]

Rett Syndrome does this. The infant starts out normal and develops normally for 6-18 months, and then slowly loses everything. It's really fucking awful.

No, that was Sophia Weaver.

Makalaya was born with lissencephaly. You know the folds on the surface of your brain? They're important because they allow the brain to have a large surface area in a small space. In lissencephaly, the folds fail to develop, and consequently the brain has a smaller surface area, which means smaller mass. Because of their smaller brains, children with lissencephaly are almost always stuck at newborn level development-wise for their entire lives.

Spoiler

And now you know where the term "smooth-brain" comes from.

 

[AnOminous]

No, that was Sophia Weaver.

Sophia had a lot more wrong with her than just Rett.

 

[A Detachable Penis]

idk i get the sense that the mikayla girl was more of a burden. she reminded me of lola tbh.

it’s really hard for me to believe that she was normal like as normal as my baby, and then just became a potato to the likes of the hartleys? it’s so hard to imagine that scenario.

The difference is that Gwen knew Lola had microcephaly and couldve aborted. Mikayla had lissencephaly, which doesn't show up on ultrasound. Her parents arent crazy, but the sounds Mikayla would make were freaky.

Interestingly, Claire had lissencephaly and microcephaly. We can assume Lola did as well despite having no MRI to confirm.

 

[AnOminous]

The difference is that Gwen knew Lola had microcephaly and couldve aborted. Mikayla had lissencephaly, which doesn't show up on ultrasound. Her parents arent crazy, but the sounds Mikayla would make were freaky.

Lissencephaly is a lot worse than microcephaly. A fair number of microcephaly cases have normal or at least not profoundly retarded IQ.

 

[Allo Vera]

I've noticed that a lot of these kids who have their mouths open all the time have really messed up teeth. It's like the shape of their mouth changes from being open and the teeth don't quite fit in there.

It’s not because their mouths stay open, but because they have a feeding tube. There’s something about not being able to eat orally that messes up the teeth.

 

[Crunchy Leaf]

I looked at the Facebook page for this little girl. A recent post says they are starting trials off the vent. If that is true, this kid has a shot at a more or less normal life. If a kid can start to breathe without the vent, the tracheotomy can be removed.

Lily now gets an hour twice a day off the vent.

When I heard ventilator I imagined an ICU bed, but hers is portable.

I don’t know how to feel about Lily. She’s not a potato. She just started walking independently (she’s 19 months, but really more like 15 because she was born at 24 weeks, so this is developmentally normal), she can put food in her mouth and chew (although she can’t swallow yet), she can toss a ball...That’s miles beyond a Kayli. If she’s intellectually normal, then I do feel like this is worth it. I know the experiences of babyhood can affect someone lifelong even if they don’t remember, and that she’ll continue to need lots of therapies, but if those therapies don’t involve her being in immense pain then I think future adult Lily will be happy her parents fought for her. Even if she’s moderately intellectually disabled, again, still not a tater. Hard to say what’s correct.

 

[Free the Pedos]

If she’s intellectually normal, then I do feel like this is worth it.

This is . Even if the child could have a relatively fulfilling life with some disabilities, I think it's defensible to continue a pregnancy and invest in them (though many of us would not choose to have a child with such a dx, like say in Downs Syndrome). It's light years away from spending millions keeping a non-sentient husk alive who, according to nature, would have died at birth.

Paging @speshul_sn0wflake to weigh in on the teeth issue if they wish, as they had a lot of fascinating things to say about disabilities and teeth in the Kailyn Wilcher thread.

 

[Android raptor]

Yeah even Kayli might not have ended up as fucked if she didn't have her anoxia event since while trisomy 18 kids who survive are some level of retarded, aren't they usually at least aware and shit?

I agree that theres a difference between disabled/retarded kids and total potatoes or abominations like the Hartleys. Also parents that are honest about having a severely disabled kid but don't exploit them and whackos like Gwen and Kelly.

 

[MysticMisty]

I've noticed that a lot of these kids who have their mouths open all the time have really messed up teeth. It's like the shape of their mouth changes from being open and the teeth don't quite fit in there.

It’s not because their mouths stay open, but because they have a feeding tube. There’s something about not being able to eat orally that messes up the teeth.

Honestly I think it's just a tard trait in general. I haven't seen a million speds or anything, but almost all the ones I have always have seriously fucked and crooked teeth. Like, way more than compared to the normal occurrence of crooked teeth in the population. I wish there'd be a scientific study on the subject to find the connection, because it's too high to be a coincidence.

 

[sperginity]

Having your mouth open all the time will wreck your teeth simply because the mouth will get very dry. Saliva is slightly alkaline, and harmful mouth germs don't really like that, they prefer acidity (sugar is very acidic). When your mouth dries out at night from sleeping, the germs have a field day. that's why morning breath is so gross. Companies make special tooth brushes to try and clean the mouths of people who have a bunch of tubes shoved in there, or can't help for whatever reason, but it still isn't very good compared to normal person brushing. These kids probably have terrible breath all the time. The direction of the teeth can be influenced by thumb sucking or pacifier use, never chewing probably means some defects are never corrected that would have been fixed by biting down.

 

[MysticMisty]

I'm not talking about potatoes though, I'm talking run-of-the-mill tards in general. And it's above and beyond thumbs and pacifiers causing buck teeth, we're talking extensive crookedness. One good sped class is a orthodontist's wet dream, if they weren't speds.

The image at the top of the page doesn't look like the result of tubes or 24/7 gaping mouth either, that looks like a serious deformity. I mean, she's got gum where her teeth should be and teeth where the gum should be.

 

[A Detachable Penis]

Yeah even Kayli might not have ended up as fucked if she didn't have her anoxia event since while trisomy 18 kids who survive are some level of exceptional, aren't they usually at least aware and shit?

I agree that theres a difference between disabled/exceptional kids and total potatoes or abominations like the Hartleys. Also parents that are honest about having a severely disabled kid but don't exploit them and whackos like Gwen and Kelly.

Yeah, trisomy 18 means theyll be pretty intellectually disabled but not a potato. They usually die from heart failure.

And yes, lissencephaly is worse than microcephaly, but theres a spectrum of both and they can meet up to be equal.

 

[booklover]

Edit: Found some cases of hydraencephaly where the individual was conscious. Again, here the brain develops and then loses structures, so keeping even some higher brain structure can confer consciousness.

The aforementioned co-worker's son had a classmate at his school/nursery who had hydranencephaly, which I had never previously heard of. I knew about this because our local newspaper did a story about her and her family; IIRC they knew something was wrong with the baby's brain before she was born but they weren't quite sure exactly what. Her head looked normal but she was never able to take care of herself on any level. I do remember that she had been assumed to be blind and deaf, but responded to light and sound, and this included music and certain TV shows that they figured out she did enjoy.

She died when she was 12 years old.

I'm not talking about potatoes though, I'm talking run-of-the-mill tards in general. And it's above and beyond thumbs and pacifiers causing buck teeth, we're talking extensive crookedness. One good sped class is a orthodontist's wet dream, if they weren't speds.

The image at the top of the page doesn't look like the result of tubes or 24/7 gaping mouth either, that looks like a serious deformity. I mean, she's got gum where her teeth should be and teeth where the gum should be.

Many people with mental and physical disabilities include epilepsy in their list of issues, and this is often treated with phenytoin (Dilantin), a drug that frequently causes gum overgrowth. This can be managed in people who are capable of oral care, but in more severely disabled people who don't understand what's happening to them, it's usually just left alone.

 

[Bananasaurus]

I'm not talking about potatoes though, I'm talking run-of-the-mill tards in general. And it's above and beyond thumbs and pacifiers causing buck teeth, we're talking extensive crookedness. One good sped class is a orthodontist's wet dream, if they weren't speds.

The image at the top of the page doesn't look like the result of tubes or 24/7 gaping mouth either, that looks like a serious deformity. I mean, she's got gum where her teeth should be and teeth where the gum should be.

I recently looked at Kelly's blog again because her crazy is amusing, and in some of the entries she mentioned that Kayli's gums grew over her teeth because of some seizure medication she was taking. Fucked genes + open mouth + having tubes in your mouth 24/7 + not being able to speak or chew + needing about 13 different pills to stay "alive" = no bueno for your mouth, not to mention how hard it must be to keep up with a tard's mouth hygiene, especially when they're sentient and freak out.

EDIT: Sorry, for whatever reason the thread didn't refresh and I did not see that booklover already mentioned the seizure meds.