Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

[RomanesEuntDomus]

Dude, he had that in the original trilogy. Go back and look, he taps on it to signal Lobot.

In the OT, you only see it from afar (and in worse video quality), the new one, you see in all its shoddy glory in HD and fullscreen sized...
I am not mocking the design, the design is fine, but look at those dials and that waffle-grid thing, it looks like something glued together in 15 minutes by an apprentice prop maker.

 

[Adamska]

I'm pretty sure they lost most if not all of it on Galaxy's Edge. They paid 4 billion for the brand, earned back around 5 billion with the sequels but then flushed it all down on Galaxy's Edge which cost them over 3 billion initially, then around another 2 billion with the Kylo Ren rides, then another 2 billion on the hotel and then even more on repairs and upkeep. All so Kennedy could have her personal fantasy shopping mall for Karens and wine moms.

Also I feel I should point out that there was already a minor scifi novel franchise called Galaxy's Edge before Disney made their shit. I'm surprised there haven't been any legal issues.


Good heavens.

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Worse than that @GeneralFriendliness : you ignore how the 5 billion they made got negated by costs it made to get both toys and in making those movies and advertising them, so that actually gets cut on this too. I'd say by over a billion, closer to two actually, so they're even deeper in the hole Star Wars wise than it is just on the White Elephant that is Galaxy's Edge.

90% decline in profits though... holy shit.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Worst than that @GeneralFriendliness : you ignore how the 5 billion they made got negated by costs it made to get both toys and in making those movies and advertising them, so that actually gets cut on this too. I'd say by over a billion, closer to two actually, so they're even deeper in the hole Star Wars wise than it is just on the White Elephant that is Galaxy's Edge.

90% decline in profits though... holy shit.

90% in decline...and Covid-19 only hit at the ass-end of Q2, meaning the evidence is there Disney would be posting the worst results since maybe Eisner, maybe even the 70s, even if the pandemic hadn't hit!

 

[Sumdood]

This thing with Filoni really gives off a vibe that he must be really autistic rather than malicious like the rest of the LucasFilms crew.

Filoni is a dipshit, Deviantart-tier sped who somehow buddied up to Lucas enough to get put in charge of shit instead of rightfully being told to sit down, shut up, and do what he’s told.

 

[Flexo]

Just reposting this from Filoni's twitter in case there are any doubts about his favoritism.
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The drawing was posted in response to questions about Ahsoka being a ghost in Plan IX and Filoni denying it and reminding us that she can never be stopped while the jedi cease to exist and she does nothing to help Luke.


It isn't the same prop. Lando's comlink looked more fancy and was transparent. But its clear they wanted it to look like it.
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But the scene is basically another "remember that uber fans?!" moment by JJ, as JJ only thinks in visuals regardless if it makes sense. You get nothing that feels like the same world 30 years later, just a different world with a lot of pointless memberberries that focus more on props and repeating scenes than the setting and characters. In other words, his films feel more like a sequel to the "Making of the OT" than the OT itself. Or at best a reboot or remake that's not a reboot.

In the OT, you only see it from afar (and in worse video quality), the new one, you see in all its shoddy glory in HD and fullscreen sized...
I am not mocking the design, the design is fine, but look at those dials and that waffle-grid thing, it looks like something glued together in 15 minutes by an apprentice prop maker.

Thanks for the shot, @GeneralFriendliness. It was a long shot for that thing to still be around, so it looks like they tried to recreate it, then try and "age it" make it look 40 years older - which leads to the crappiness @RomanesEuntDomus is rightfully bitching about.

This thing with Filoni really gives off a vibe that he must be really autistic rather than malicious like the rest of the LucasFilms crew.

I wasn't sure at first until I finally saw an interview and heard him speak.

His actual voice sounds like a voice I would make up to mock the guy. It really does sound like a "special" lisp to it instead of the gay lisp.

Filoni is a dipshit, Deviantart-tier sped who somehow buddied up to Lucas enough to get put in charge of shit instead of rightfully being told to sit down, shut up, and do what he’s told.

Think you could send a d-mail back and prevent this?

 

[qu_rahn]

ESB - Luke & Vader's dual. I think what some people forget (but your brain didn't) is that at the end of SW, Luke hears Obi-Wan still guiding him. (Use the Force) So when Luke goes to confront Vader and Obi-Wan warns him, "I cannot go with you." it really drives home how alone Luke is when he's facing down the monster of the Empire - and there are no words of advice or encouragement. Again, a master example of writing.

That's a good point that I've not really thought of. Also Luke crying out Ben's name in despair while hanging off the bottom of Cloud City, with no answer. There's nothing in the new trilogy that has any similar gravitas. Rather it's "You are never alone!", "No one's ever really gone. We are always with you!" We never see Rey communicate loneliness or isolation, even though she is supposedly an orphan with no family or friends. Where the original and even the prequel trilogy had at least the veneer of a spiritual journey, it's replaced in Disney Wars with the bogus connectedness of social media

 

[HandsomeDan]

In the OT, you only see it from afar (and in worse video quality), the new one, you see in all its shoddy glory in HD and fullscreen sized...
I am not mocking the design, the design is fine, but look at those dials and that waffle-grid thing, it looks like something glued together in 15 minutes by an apprentice prop maker.

This is the point I was about to make before I saw your very good post. Many "props" are made with components that create an illusion to the eye from a distance, hence Lando's wrist device when seen in the ESB the grid actually gives an appearance of a "screen" and the clear components allow the light to make the object appear metalic. This is how movie sets are made, its all an illusion. As you said, the camera is not supposed to focus in on the object in HD and reveal the true identity of the model kit parts they used to make it.

 

[Ghostse]

I don't understand why firing a women would somehow ruin your chance at a political career, unless he did something nefarious behind the scenes that Kennedy or another one of her cronies know that will end him.

The short answer is that you generally don't fire executives because of the issues it creates. You usually force them to step down, or you just don't renew their contracts.
See when you get fired at your job, that's just sort of it. HR comes in, you sign some stuff, clean your desk, gone. No one knows anything. You have no contract, you can be fired for any reason - and as long as you can't prove it was a wrong reason, you can't do anything.

When executives get fired, there is usually a contract. They can't just fire them willy-nilly, there has to be a reason. And when you hit that upper crust, usually the firing needs to be addressed in a shareholder's meeting, making it very public. So if you fire an executive for a non-ironclad reason, they have a very solid basis for a lawsuit.


If Iger does want to go into politics, he's not going to want to have to explain firing a top woman at Disney, especially one as connected and vindictive as KKK. Its less that it would derail his aspirations, and more that its an obstacle he doesn't want to have to deal with if it can be avoided.

 

[anti SJW]

I'll just leave this here.

 

[HandsomeDan]

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I'll just leave this here.

Banning words and language, that is just so of the times!

 

[Chilson]

The short answer is that you generally don't fire executives because of the issues it creates. You usually force them to step down, or you just don't renew their contracts.
See when you get fired at your job, that's just sort of it. HR comes in, you sign some stuff, clean your desk, gone. No one knows anything. You have no contract, you can be fired for any reason - and as long as you can't prove it was a wrong reason, you can't do anything.

When executives get fired, there is usually a contract. They can't just fire them willy-nilly, there has to be a reason. And when you hit that upper crust, usually the firing needs to be addressed in a shareholder's meeting, making it very public. So if you fire an executive for a non-ironclad reason, they have a very solid basis for a lawsuit.


If Iger does want to go into politics, he's not going to want to have to explain firing a top woman at Disney, especially one as connected and vindictive as KKK. Its less that it would derail his aspirations, and more that its an obstacle he doesn't want to have to deal with if it can be avoided.

Yes and no. Yes you can't just fire an executive will nilly. No, there is never anything in a contract that will make an employer unable to fire even an executive. Iger could fire Kennedy tomorrow and there is nothing shareholders could really do about it unless they oust then replace Iger with someone who will re-hire Kennedy (extremely unlikely). The issue is a bit more complex than this.

One, her benefit package (stock options, RSU's, PSU's, etc.). Practically every employee who receives some form of stock based compensation (which all executives at Disney do get in abundance) has it written in the agreement that any INVOLUNTARY termination will immediately result in them getting their compensation in full. Likely Kennedy will get millions of dollars in Disney stock for being fired, something Disney doesn't want to pay for right now.

Two, Kennedy likely has a lot of dirt on Disney and knows quite a few company secrets. Letting Kennedy go means she will likely get picked up by a Disney competitor and all of Disney's dealings, secrets, etc. are now in enemy hands. Kennedy could also be threatening to take a bunch of "talented" young professionals with her (something executives often do when being terminated from their parent company). This leads to brain drain and further loss of internal secrets. While I think Disney is better off without this "talent" loyal to Kennedy, Disney is probably not to keen on losing these people even if WE believe they are worthless.

Third, Kennedy being the idpol obsessed vindictive bitch she is could threaten Disney with a lawsuit over her firing being "because she is a women" which would be a constitutional violation. She will absolutely lose the case because she would lose her job due to sheer incompetence (look back at the last 1550 pages for evidence on that). She can afford the costs though and this would be yet another massive marketing blow for the already floundering Disney/Bob Iger.

 

[Godzilla@1989]

Yes and no. Yes you can't just fire an executive will nilly. No, there is never anything in a contract that will make an employer unable to fire even an executive. Iger could fire Kennedy tomorrow and there is nothing shareholders could really do about it unless they oust then replace Iger with someone who will re-hire Kennedy (extremely unlikely). The issue is a bit more complex than this.

One, her benefit package (stock options, RSU's, PSU's, etc.). Practically every employee who receives some form of stock based compensation (which all executives at Disney do get in abundance) has it written in the agreement that any INVOLUNTARY termination will immediately result in them getting their compensation in full. Likely Kennedy will get millions of dollars in Disney stock for being fired, something Disney doesn't want to pay for right now.

Two, Kennedy likely has a lot of dirt on Disney and knows quite a few company secrets. Letting Kennedy go means she will likely get picked up by a Disney competitor and all of Disney's dealings, secrets, etc. are now in enemy hands. Kennedy could also be threatening to take a bunch of "talented" young professionals with her (something executives often do when being terminated from their parent company). This leads to brain drain and further loss of internal secrets. While I think Disney is better off without this "talent" loyal to Kennedy, Disney is probably not to keen on losing these people even if WE believe they are worthless.

Third, Kennedy being the idpol obsessed vindictive bitch she is could threaten Disney with a lawsuit over her firing being "because she is a women" which would be a constitutional violation. She will absolutely lose the case because she would lose her job due to sheer incompetence (look back at the last 1550 pages for evidence on that). She can afford the costs though and this would be yet another massive marketing blow for the already floundering Disney/Bob Iger.

I could imagine Kennedy beginning to accuse Iger was sexually harassing her as she gets fired.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Two, Kennedy likely has a lot of dirt on Disney and knows quite a few company secrets. Letting Kennedy go means she will likely get picked up by a Disney competitor and all of Disney's dealings, secrets, etc. are now in enemy hands. Kennedy could also be threatening to take a bunch of "talented" young professionals with her (something executives often do when being terminated from their parent company). This leads to brain drain and further loss of internal secrets. While I think Disney is better off without this "talent" loyal to Kennedy, Disney is probably not to keen on losing these people even if WE believe they are worthless.

If a competitor was dumb enough to hire the bitch who single handedly crashed Star Wars into the ground, I'd find that more reason to kick her ass out.

The best thing she could do is ruin the competitor's franchises in the same way.

 

[Flexo]

If a competitor was dumb enough to hire the bitch who single handedly crashed Star Wars into the ground, I'd find that more reason to kick her ass out.

The best thing she could do is ruin the competitor's franchises in the same way.

As Shamus Young once put it:

"I'm not only kicking her out, I'm giving her a glowing recommendation. Let my competitors burn for a little awhile."

 

[Trans Fat 41g]

Sam Witwer Owes me an Apology

Looks like ItchyBalls is having a Twitter spat with Witwer, not sure how to feel about this.

 

[Notgoodwithusernames]

Sam Witwer Owes me an Apology

Looks like ItchyBalls is having a Twitter spat with Witwer, not sure how to feel about this.

I dunno think Itchy's taking it a bit too personally

 

[Godzilla@1989]

A week ago, Grace Randolph heard rumors that Apple might be buying Disney.

 

[Creep3r]

I dunno think Itchy's taking it a bit too personally

On one hand, Sam has been kind of following the moronic party line of "critical fans are mean", but on the other hand Itchy shouldn't take it so personally, otherwise it'll just give Disney drones ammo to use against him and it might end up making him a bigger target. Also despite some of Sam's less thoughtful views on fans, he hasn't been anywhere near as obnoxious or even remotely as dickish as Freddie Prinze Jr. or others within Lucasfilm/SW who have just been straight up assholes or calling people literal monsters for not liking a movie and comparing them to PT critics or even racist genociders, despite that those most critical of the PT in the past are those most defensive towards the Disney Wars canon now, like the MSM. You had tv shows, comics, online communities and whatnot draw hate or murder art of George and Jar Jar like it was no big deal. Yet now that there's people saying Disney Wars sucks (who were usually those less critical of SW in the past) and is a mockery of everything that came before, then that suddenly makes you a murderous monster despite shit like the comic below with depictions of killing fans, George and anything was commonplace back in the 2000s and early 2010s.

But then the MSM and PT critics will pretend that they were never like this (case in point Dobson, HelloGreedo, Marvel and most reviewers) and call the other side evil monsters because "muh alt-right boogeyman" or some other such buzzword to justify their hypocrisy while saying that fans were always cruel despite the MSM and DT loyalists being the ones who were talking the most shit back then.

Sorry, went off on a tangent there. Anyway, I think its best not to needlessly start shit with Sam since he isn't as egotistical as the rest and recently he did a Clone Wars stream where he outright says that he doesn't consider Disney shit canon and that it takes place in an alternate timeline (which is actually true) which made the faggots on 4chan's /co/ and Wookieepedo seethe.

 

[Akumaten]

It keeps happening!

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I witnessed this bullshit with the ID4 sequel and Pacific Rim Uprising

 

[Saxxon]

Now, what would be the worse thing that could happen if Apple buys Disney?