Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

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Interesting Twitter thread on contract tracing. Spoiler alert - unforeseen complications arising

https://twitter.com/TheAgeofShoddy/status/1260640963103322113

https://archive.li/eEwIE

Remember everyone, when this stuff goes live in the US

(And barring legal obstruction, it will absolutely go live in the US)

1. You have an absolute moral obligation to find and disseminate these dox as far and as wide as possible if you find any way to get them, to teach the people involved (and their enablers) why you don't fucking collect this kind of data in the first place.
2. Be creative: Sort the dox into spreadsheets. Leak every Republican that attends a gay nightclub. Every married woman who goes to a seedy hotel in New York City. Every person who stops in to buy Marijuana in California. Every Cellphone seen at more than 2 or 3 Antifa protests.
3. You had damn well better be buried under an avalanche of opsec the world has never seen, because holy shit, "shoot the messenger" is nothing compared to what they'll do to you if you screw up their nice shiny excuse to fulfill their favorite 1984 wet dreams.

 

[Peace and Harmony]

I think I'm going to legally change my name to HTTP Error 404.

 

[Gustav Schuchardt]

MedCram video on glutathione deficiency and oxidative stress as a cause of death in COVID19 patients.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtL0B1bqXak

https://archive.vn/3Hq4g

 

[beautiful person]

I haven't been updating because I don't give a shit anymore, but I just want to say that I am sick of old people and how they take the rest of us annihilating our futures on their behalf for granted. Fuck.

 

[sifareh592]

Well peeps...pandemic is over, Greta will bring us salvation.....
All hail saint Thunberg patreon of spergs

 

[Ponderous Pillock]

Well you might've noticed I dropped out of this thread for a while with the daily updates etc, we're now over the peak and England, at least, has seen a nice loosening of the restrictions to a degree, there's no more limit on travel or times to go out exercising and some "non essential" shops have started to reopen.

So I went to have a walk in the Lincolnshire Woulds officially, and went to see my father and step mother unofficially as I hadn't seen them at all in three months.

Hilariously, everyone is fine and large portions of the country seem to not be seeing anyone. Even on a local Pillockville page nobody from Pillockville itself seems to know many to have died from the Bat Cough itself within the boundaries of the town, but lots of folks who've moved here from cities in the last five-ten years have known people, suggesting even in the counties with "hot spots" within them are almost all confined to cities.

Oh, and the arsehole in charge of the lolcow Force, Derbyshire Plod whined like a bitch about the easing of measures.

This man is on £85k a year to harass the public with drones, order pools dyed black for no reason and to strip its officers from huge swathes of the county for no discernible reason.

It's also the last office in the entire county of any note not held by the Conservatives.

 

[Big Nasty]

"We here in Sweden are not so severely affected."

God damn you people.

 

[Francis E. Dec Esc.]

Can we talk about the Language there

"Safer at home." I dunno what is creepier that wording

or Joesph Robinette Biden.

"Safer at home" reminds me of this:

 

[BayView]

cant believe we are almost at 1600 pages of this thread. Been following since February. Crazy to think back then everyone blew off this virus as a "nothing burger." Here's to another 1600 pages.

 

[Smug Chuckler]

I haven't been updating because I don't give a shit anymore, but I just want to say that I am sick of old people and how they take the rest of us annihilating our futures on their behalf for granted. Fuck.

Don't blame old people, blame the big business types and snake oil salesmen like Bill Gates taking advantage of the crisis using old people as a shield.

 

[UntimelyDhelmise]

The worst part about this is that the morons who voted these faggots in are going to flee elsewhere in droves and probably vote for the same type of faggots that ruined the place they fled.

I've speculated this last year, well before this whole virus shitshow, that states like California are deliberately sabotaging themselves so the leftist lunatics within will leave and spread to more red states to eventually vote in more little Hitlers. Texas is exhibit A of this phenomenon.

 

[Barnard]

Here's a breakdown of recent new cases by voivodeship. I have flagged the two where all the problem mines are so you can see how they're inflating the overall stats. Everywhere else is pretty chill. They're currently screening a significant portion of the Silesian mining industry workforce, so I'm expecting some rather bloated numbers in the upcoming days, then a sharp drop.

So predictably this was correct, at least the "bloated numbers" part. Since this post there have been 1289 new cases detected, 1023 out of which are from Silesia. Whoops. Some more lockdown restrictions are to be loosened next week, but at this rate, this area will likely be forced to stay a step behind the rest of the country.

On the other hand, the widespread screening finally pushed our testing closer to actual capacity, jumping to 20k then 26k tests a day. Still not very impressive, but only 1.5% to 2.5% of these samples come back positive. And on a related note, we finally have some antibody results. One university analyzed a set of 1000 samples from people who displayed no respiratory symptoms recently, hoping to estimate asymptomatic spread. They came up with 2% - smack in the middle of the daily range, interestingly.

Now, it's not a completely random sample; it was a regional study of people from an urban area, mostly outside of the high risk groups, so we probably can't extrapolate the results on the entire population. But if we did, that's 760 000 asymptomatic carriers right there. Now add the almost 20 000 already detected, symptomatic ones, and with 883 deaths, that's a death rate of... 0.11%? Nah, can't be right. But @Otterly 's estimate of 0.4% sounds more and more reasonable.

 

[Otterly]

The new normal may be enhanced protocols for nursing homes, elderly and infirm and their close family and friends making adjustments in public and in private, and monitoring certain metrics so we can see if there’s a concerning pattern change.

Elder care in the Uk has been run down and privatised too much with too few controls. People are moaning on about the government not helping but most of these homes are privately owned and privately run. There are a very small minority of homes run by people who genuinely care and provide a decent living environment. The rest are owned by private concerns (including I’m sorry to say an awful lot of doctors) and staffed by the absolute minimum of qualified staff assisted by larger but still insufficient numbers of minimum wage carers who are treated poorly, paid poorly and have no job security.
You can tell when you walk through the door if it’s a good home or a bad one by the smell. They’re mainly hideous places. Fucking shoot me before I get to that point.
It was a disaster waiting to happen. There needs to be a hard look at how we provide elderly care, both at the personal care level and the nursing care level. Both are horribly underfunded.

The elderly aren’t disposable. We could have had enhanced PPE, enhanced hygiene, staff testing, resident testing. We could have zoned off homes to separate infected and not, and we could have prevented an awful lot of those deaths while still keeping everything else open. As it is we’ve locked down, fucked the economy sideways and still let the grim reaper run amok in the nursing homes.

 

[Simpadoo]

cant believe we are almost at 1600 pages of this thread. Been following since February. Crazy to think back then everyone blew off this virus as a "nothing burger." Here's to another 1600 pages.

Medically yes. Politically, it’s the equivalent of the first H-bomb.

 

[FatalTater]

Michigan, what the hell. This governor is ridiculous.

https://americanmilitarynews.com/2020/05/gov-whitmer-police-monitoring-conversations-of-lockdown-protesters-in-michigan/

http://archive.vn/Nsq2P

I mean, we all know the authorities spy on us, but at least try to be sneaky about it, hmm?

 

[JosephStalin]

Full-blown lockdowns have been proven not to work ... Because then nobody becomes immune, thus creating large spikes/multiple waves whenever lockdowns are lifted.

In short, this doesn't shock me. My only concern, really, is whether the U.S. Government decides to issue "stay at home" orders again around the country.

To be sure, the Feds didn't put any state under house arrest. That was done at the state level.

But after all this, question whether people will again acquiesce to another house arrest at another time. The little Honeckers have shown themselves to be nothing more than incompetent political hacks.

Last week emailed my county supervisor, asking the health director be removed. Also provided what I thought about the process so far. Nothing rude, all businesslike. Actually got a response today. Sadly, it was the expected bullshit response - thanks for writing, blah, blah, blah.. Nothing of any consequence. Just another reason to have no faith or trust in state/county/city government. They don't care what you think, just blow you off with a polite response.

 

[5ever a crab]

Elder care in the Uk has been run down and privatised too much with too few controls. People are moaning on about the government not helping but most of these homes are privately owned and privately run. There are a very small minority of homes run by people who genuinely care and provide a decent living environment. The rest are owned by private concerns (including I’m sorry to say an awful lot of doctors) and staffed by the absolute minimum of qualified staff assisted by larger but still insufficient numbers of minimum wage carers who are treated poorly, paid poorly and have no job security.
You can tell when you walk through the door if it’s a good home or a bad one by the smell. They’re mainly hideous places. Fucking shoot me before I get to that point.
It was a disaster waiting to happen. There needs to be a hard look at how we provide elderly care, both at the personal care level and the nursing care level. Both are horribly underfunded.

The elderly aren’t disposable. We could have had enhanced PPE, enhanced hygiene, staff testing, resident testing. We could have zoned off homes to separate infected and not, and we could have prevented an awful lot of those deaths while still keeping everything else open. As it is we’ve locked down, fucked the economy sideways and still let the grim reaper run amok in the nursing homes.

Makes me wonder if we'll see people actually try to do something to improve the conditions of shit nursing homes. I saw zoomers (including me) pissing their pants with existential crises because now there was an actual chance of yourself dying. And with the thoughts of mortality, people got more in depth with how they will envision themselves dying (realistically). I've heard stories from friends and family of how health care staff don't even half-ass their efforts into emphasizing with the elderly, it's all "I just wanna go home and get paid already". Even if you have a caring family, sometimes you get some old people conditions where you have to attach yourself onto some hospital machine instead of being at home.

Drastic changes are too optimistic, but I'm sure there'll be a few young people looking to make improvements so they won't be stuck at those homes eventually.

 

[eternal dog mongler]

Elder care in the Uk has been run down and privatised too much with too few controls. People are moaning on about the government not helping but most of these homes are privately owned and privately run. There are a very small minority of homes run by people who genuinely care and provide a decent living environment. The rest are owned by private concerns (including I’m sorry to say an awful lot of doctors) and staffed by the absolute minimum of qualified staff assisted by larger but still insufficient numbers of minimum wage carers who are treated poorly, paid poorly and have no job security.
You can tell when you walk through the door if it’s a good home or a bad one by the smell. They’re mainly hideous places. Fucking shoot me before I get to that point.
It was a disaster waiting to happen. There needs to be a hard look at how we provide elderly care, both at the personal care level and the nursing care level. Both are horribly underfunded.

The nursing home that's closest to me is for geri psych patients.

That place fucking owns. It's where I got punched in the face. Staff isn't even wearing scrubs much less PPE. Everyone's just yelling at each other. It smells like feces. There's feces on the floor.

Smokers get their daily allotment of five cigarettes. Which are actually just Clippers I think (really cheap filtered cigars that avoid the cigarette tax.) Then they go out and staff puts special weighted vests on them so they don't burn themselves.

Somehow they have no COVID-19 cases.

 

[irishAzoth]

Makes me wonder if we'll see people actually try to do something to improve the conditions of shit nursing homes. I saw zoomers (including me) pissing their pants with existential crises because now there was an actual chance of yourself dying. And with the thoughts of mortality, people got more in depth with how they will envision themselves dying (realistically). I've heard stories from friends and family of how health care staff don't even half-ass their efforts into emphasizing with the elderly, it's all "I just wanna go home and get paid already". Even if you have a caring family, sometimes you get some old people conditions where you have to attach yourself onto some hospital machine instead of being at home.

Drastic changes are too optimistic, but I'm sure there'll be a few young people looking to make improvements so they won't be stuck at those homes eventually.

do what your boomer ancestors should have done
move off to an island and die there at least you can die with a good view and not shitting your diapers

 

[CeleryStalks]

Michigan, USA

Another protest was held at the state capitol today. About 150-300 people showed up, depending on the news source. No major events, but plenty of clickbait, including:
A scuffle between protestors that started over the optics of holding a doll with a noose around its neck.
Police confiscated an axe. The axe-owner complied peacefully.
A person in a Pikachu costume holding a rifle.

https://twitter.com/AndyMorrison_DN/status/1260995547500068867

(archive)

Unlike at some previous protests, the legislature was not in session today.
Detroit News (right-wing) (archive)
Lansing State Journal (part of USA Today's network, so I presume left-wing, though I don't read them and can't say for certain) (archive)
Another from the LSJ, with more pictures (archive)

Oral arguments are scheduled tomorrow in the Republican-controlled legislature's lawsuit against Governor Gretchen Whitmer (D)'s alleged overreach of her emergency powers.

Spoiler: Michigan Recap

SHUTDOWN SHOWDOWN
Shelter-in-place order from Tuesday March 24 to Monday April 13. Friday, May 1, Friday, May 15, May 28 May 1, maybe? (archive) (executive order saved on KF) . The Republican-controlled legislature has refused to extend Governor Whitmer's emergency authority. Governor Whitmer insists her emergency orders are all still in effect (Rundown on the laws).
State attorney general Dana Nessel (D) is also leaving enforcement of the stay-at-home order to local discretion until the courts weigh in on it (archive). She has stated Governor Whitmer's orders are valid and are to be enforced (archive). The legislature is not calling for civil disobedience at this time (archive).
The legislature has filed a lawsuit against the governor (archive). The defense must submit arguments by May 12, and oral arguments will be heard May 15 (archive).
State senate leader Mike Shirkey (R) is also supporting a petition drive to change the law. Such a petition would require 340,047 signatures to be collected. It would be veto-proof if approved by the legislature, and would go on the next general election ballot if denied by them (archive 1, archive 2, archive 3).
U. S. Rep Paul Mitchell (R - The Thumb) has filed a lawsuit independently against Governor Whitmer, in federal district court. Link, pdf on KF. He has also founded a committee to work on the petition recommended by Sen. Shirkey.
There have been at least nine other lawsuits against Governor Whitmer's actions during this crisis, mostly regarding the shut-down order, in various stages of progress and in various courts (summary of eight of them). However, "all deadlines applicable to the commencement of all civil and probate actions and proceedings" are suspended until the end of the states of emergency and disaster. Executive order, and thus in limbo. (archive).

OTHER SHUTDOWNS
Recap from NPR
Major protest at the State Capitol April 15 (A&N thread). Minor protest outside Governor's Mansion April 23 (archive). Protest at the State Capitol April 30 (A&N Thread). Protest at the capitol May 14 (archive).
The Big Three Auto manufacturers (Ford, GM, Chrysler) have closed all factories in the USA, putting well over 150,000 workers out of work. This figure does not include workers at supplier factories, which were also obliged to close. (archive) (archive) (archive). Auto manufacturing expected to resume May 18. (archive)

ECONOMY AND MISCELLANY
Over 1 million unemployment claims filed = 10% of the total population of the state, nearly 25% of the workforce (Archive - April 16).
Massive phone-tracking project reveals Michigan travel is slowly creeping back up (website).
Car crashes are down, fatal car crashes are down, and overall death is actually down. (archive - April 12)

FREE STUFF!
Evictions suspended while the state of emergency lasts (archive) Executive order. May or may not still be valid.
Water will be turned back on for all households while the crisis lasts (archive) Executive order. May or may not still be valid.

HEALTH CARE
Hydroxychloroquine banned by governor's order (archive). Nevermind LOL! Now she's asking the federal government for it and claiming the ban was a mistake in the first place. (archive). Detroit-area hospitals are testing the drug's effectiveness as a preventative on first responders and health-care workers (archive). Article on results, May 8 (archive).
Elective surgeries are banned. Maybe? Who knows. If/when in effect, abortions were not included in the ban (thread).
At any rate, hospitals are resuming elective surgeries.
Up-to-date count of available hospital beds, etc. in the State (the Detroit area is "Section 2, North and South.")(government website)
State of affairs May 5 - about half as many hospitalized cases and ICU cases as on April 12 (archive).
Detroit field hospital, capacity 1,000, closed. Never had many more than 20 at any time. (archive, May 7).

LAW AND ORDER
All localities given more discretion to release prisoners early (archive). It was an executive order. Who knows if it's still valid?
Lansing (the capitol) police are not physically responding to minor crimes such as larceny, property damage, and break-ins to unoccupied buildings, including garages. Other police are adopting similar policies (archive) (archive).
Detroit shootings up, but most other crime down (archive - April 30); Muskegon police report crime is up (archive).
Breaking the lockdown is a misdemeanor, punishable by $1500 fines and 90 days jail time. (Still valid???) Governor Gretchen Whitmer (D) has stated there will not be a "ramp up" of police enforcement (archive). The attorney general has left it to local law enforcement to close businesses, as her hands are full with price-gougers and con artists (archive).
The police cannot, at present, pull drivers over simply for being out during the shutdown (archive). Multiple sherrifs from the rural north to Detroit suburbs have stated they will not be enforcing parts or the entirety of the order (archive).

OFFICIAL DEATH TOLL

The Michigan Department of Health and Human Services reviews deaths and adds overlooked cases to the count three days a week: Tuesday, Thursday, and Saturday. Recovery counts are updated on Saturdays.
35 deaths were added today.

Regular reviews of death certificate data maintained in Vital Records reporting systems are conducted by MDHHS staff three times per week. As a part of this process, records that identify COVID-19 infection as a contributing factor to death are compared against all laboratory confirmed cases of COVID-19 in the Michigan Disease Surveillance System (MDSS). If a death certificate is matched to a confirmed COVID-19 case and that record in the MDSS does not indicate the individual died, the MDSS record is updated to indicate the death and the appropriate local health department is notified. These matched deaths are then included with mortality information posted to the Michigan Coronavirus website.

Detroit Metro (pop. 3,860,000 total; 1,796/sq. mi.; 694/sq km):*

32,954 confirmed / 3,799 dead
32,356 confirmed / 3,747 dead yesterday
(i.e. 52 new deaths, down 18 from this day last week)
Normal Detroit Metro Death Rate: 104 per day.**

Other Michigan (6,120,000; 65/sq. mi.; 25/sq km):

16,628 confirmed / 988 dead
16,035 confirmed / 967 dead yesterday
(i.e. 21 new deaths, down 2 from this day last week)
Normal not-Detroit Death Rate: 167 per day**

All Michigan (9,990,000; 103/sq. mi.; 40/sq km):

49,582 confirmed / 4,787 dead
48,391 confirmed / 4,714 dead yesterday
(i.e. 73 new deaths, down 20 from this day last week, down 17 without adjustments)
Normal Michigan Death Rate: 271 per day.**

Death toll doubled since: April 19.
We have been (were?) locked down since: March 24 (until April 30?),
Masks have been mandatory in stores since: April 27 (until April 30?).

Detroit Metro Daily Deaths Last Seven Days:
36 / 69*** / 18 / 15 / 69*** / 25 / 27*** = 320***

State Government site, daily - today's archive;
State Gov site, total, includes breakdowns by sex, age, race and ethnicity - today's archive.
*Here defined as the City of Detroit, and Macomb, Oakland, and Wayne Counties, minus state and federal prisoners, who are not counted towards any county's cases, but are kept in categories of their own.
** As of 2018.
*** 67, 19, and 35 statewide deaths, respectively, were added on these days upon State review. Presumably most were in Detroit, but I don't know exactly how many.
One Ann Arbor man allegedly killed by his roommate in a Corona-related dispute (archive). The suspect has been released from custody while the investigation continues (archive).
One Flint security guard allegedly murdered for telling a woman that her daughter needed to wear a mask in a dollar store. Multiple suspects are in custody (archive, A&N thread).