Jaron Seth Bloshinsky / Jazz Jennings / I Am Jazz - Puberty Blockers: Not Even Once

[keyboredsm4shthe2nd]

I wonder where this butchers get their licenses. Penises have a unique system of their own, you can't recreate the corpora carvenosa nor the nerves and veins that sustain this penis alive. Vaginas aren't a hole to put a dick into it, is a canal connected to the uterus, with their own ligaments, glands, veins and nerves. Is like calling carving a piece of meat from the abs and calling a heart, is ridiculous. A man is not suited for a vagina, the same for a woman.
And what is this surgeon going to tell when a distressed crying Jaron comes to his office telling him to put his penis back? If he doesn't join the 41% of course. Let me butcher your arm and form an skin-sausage?

I was going to say "fortunately there's penis transplant now if you want to risk it and have corpse dick on you" but unfortunately the only case I know of was that soldier, who was a man who went through puberty and also only got it blown off by a landmine, not have a butcher-called-surgeon hack a hole in his pelvis, so looking at it that way Jazaron probably isn't a potential candidate. I think the best thing he could do is let it all heal up and live his life as a eunuch (moreso than he is). ETA: ... imagine being in a situation where having your dick blown off by a landmine is "fortunate" relative to everything else.

There is not a single dick butcherer that isn’t sociopathic. The history of these surgeries paint a clear picture.


Browers is an OB-GYN and practiced as one for 20 years before making dick butchery his calling in life.

Can you imagine being so pussy obsessed you stare at them for 20 years then decide "hey, I can make my own!" PLEASE someone fucking tell me why trans surgery isn't considered butchery? (no not really I fucking know why and I hate it) because this is some goddamn horror movie logic. Also it's no wonder every fauxgina he makes is fucked, out of every ten women he'd see, 1 probably got a routine pelvic exam, 1 was pregnant, and 8 had some horrible disgusting STD or yeast infection. Probably skewed his perception of what it or an approximation should look like.

 

[Skullshatterer]

This makes me feel a mixture of mad at the internet and disgust. Most troons that want to "become" a woman have the most misogynistic, disgusting and oversimplified view of what they think a woman is. Like said above this just confirms they think the vagina isn't an sexual organ but just a hole. So of course, to them their open wound is a success.

 

[Tiana]

In case Jazz reads this thread, I don't hate you, kid. Your parents are lying to you, there is nothing wrong with being a boy who is into girly stuff. There was never a need to get surgery. Live your life for you and you alone.



Socialists expect the state will provide them with enough money to have all they want and consider that wigs and clothes to "express" themselves is a basic need that you're entitled to obtain by the rich's tax money because otherwise, you're gonna kill yourself.

But what do you think should happen to people if they experience long term issues with their bodies? I like to think I'm against cosmetic surgery in general, but I also can't go so far as some people in my circles to denounce it completely, since I'm not a mental health expert at the end of the day.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

But what do you think should happen to people if they experience long term issues with their bodies?

This didn't happen to Jazz. He was groomed from toddlerhood.
Genital butchering should be a crime.

 

[Muttnik]

But what do you think should happen to people if they experience long term issues with their bodies? I like to think I'm against cosmetic surgery in general, but I also can't go so far as some people in my circles to denounce it completely, since I'm not a mental health expert at the end of the day.

Jazz is a child. He was three when he made this life-altering decision. THREE. You're still struggling not to shit your pants at three. There's no way Jeanette and Greg should have been kowtowing to the demands of a child that hadn't learned how to spell blue yet. But it was always for attention. Troon out your kid and watch the bucks roll in.

Look at Jazz now--he's a fucking wreck. He doesn't understand how to cope with real-world challenges, can't handle criticism. still doesn't pass, is castrated for life, and has absorbed all the attention away from his neglected siblings. Was it worth it at all? And even with his new gaping wound, is he really happier?

I'm not malicious towards trans people. As long as you're a consenting adult and not creepy or a dick to "cis" people based on your own insecurities, I'm totally cool with you, happy for you even if you're able to lead a fulfilling life. But Jazz was, and still is on a mental level, a child.

Children change. Children regret. Children can go in completely opposite directions within the span of years, if not a single year. That's what normal growth and mental development is all about. And instead of getting to experience that, Jazz was deprived of it before he was a real person. He could have made this huge decision as a grown adult. Or he could have decided that he was just a gay/femmy male that liked dressing up. It could have gone in any which-way but instead we have a bloated, foaming wreck of a young adult that can't function without his mommy dilating him and telling him what words he needs to say. It's sad and pathetic and wrong on so many levels and this poor kid is STILL being pimped out for money.

If you have an issue with your body, let it grow all the way out first and make sure that your mind has developed enough to make the conscious decision of chopping shit off. And even then, know that what you get isn't exactly what you want. Science hasn't progressed to such things yet and it's not a substitute for a stable lifestyle or proper integration into society.

 

[AnOminous]

Jazz is a child. He was three when he made this life-altering decision. THREE.

He didn't make the decision. His munchie mom did.

 

[keyboredsm4shthe2nd]

Literally just said i was going to shut up but cant help myself. Cus something i want to add to this ^ is that the vagina is a “potential space”: the walls close together when it’s not ‘occupied’, it’s not a cavity. What they create is a cavity. And yes that doesn’t have all the connections that female anatomy does, the nerves and blood vessels. It’s essentially like a piercing, a flesh tunnel. It really confirms their view of a vagina being a hole to fuck, which is a hilarious thought when you consider the libfems who rally this cause.



Eh, agree with the sentiment, but I think ‘sociopath’ is a cop-out, but i wont shit up the thread even more.

Most surgeons are sociopathic to a degree (or at least, the ones who do actual necessary surgery, not nazi butchery). It's not quite compassion fatigue, because most do care, that's why they spent 10+ years learning to cut people open, to help. But at the same time, being able to cut people up/open for a living does take a little bit of sociopathy.

 

[(s)tori]

Most surgeons are sociopathic to a degree (or at least, the ones who do actual necessary surgery, not nazi butchery). It's not quite compassion fatigue, because most do care, that's why they spent 10+ years learning to cut people open, to help. But at the same time, being able to cut people up/open for a living does take a little bit of sociopathy.

There's also this whole idea of playing God, and making something you yourself deem as "the ideal". A surgeon must think very highly of their capabilities in decision-making.
I'm imagining a good handful being terrible at criticism.

This entire thing is disturbing.
I can't help but wonder when the whole "regret journey" will take place. Considering all the early- and mid-twenties people that come out regretting their decisions.
Statistically Jennings has it coming right around the corner.
There's no coming back.

 

[Pokemonquistador2]

There's also this whole idea of playing God, and making something you yourself deem as "the ideal". A surgeon must think very highly of their capabilities in decision-making.
I'm imagining a good handful being terrible at criticism.

This entire thing is disturbing.
I can't help but wonder when the whole "regret journey" will take place. Considering all the early- and mid-twenties people that come out regretting their decisions.
Statistically Jennings has it coming right around the corner.
There's no coming back.

There is no Jazz. There's just a machine that's constantly reprogramming itself to please its mother. A machine that thinks cutting off parts of itself will finally bring the happiness its mother has long desired. If there's a Dante-esque version of Ironic Hell, then there's got to be a place for BPD mothers who goad their sons into transitioning. A place where said mothers have their own vaginas swapped out with the seeping, mutilating organs they condemned their own children to live with.

 

[vanilla_pepsi_head]

There is not a single dick butcherer that isn’t sociopathic. The history of these surgeries paint a clear picture.


Browers is an OB-GYN and practiced as one for 20 years before making dick butchery his calling in life.

Hold the fucking phone, this idiot was an OB-GYN? That's even more appalling because she should fucking know perfectly well that penile tissues are not "the same" as uterine, cervical or vaginal ones. I thought she was a garden variety butcher quack looking to make a quick buck off a trend, but now I see her as a creepy Buffalo Bill troon so obsessed with vaginas that she actually went through the necessary training to work with them for 20 years in vague hopes she'd learn some super secret/innovative method of creating her own from butchered dicks. And that is just so much worse. I know the term "psychopath" isn't used in contemporary psychology but damned if it isn't accurate here.

 

[Uncle /pol/]

I do not believe Jan has good intentions and is just misguided, she’s mental. Maybe it started as some kind of post-partum psychosis, we don’t know the intricacies of her mind, other people here have speculated on the reasons this child had to be the ‘special’ one. Whatever it is, she’s sick and abusive. And fair enough if you want to give her a pass for reasons of broken brain. But there are many other fully-functioning adults here who did nothing to stop it. What kind of dad sits back and lets the mother of his kids abuse them? What kind of grandparents step back and let their kids abuse their grandchildren? They are the people we talk about in the cliche of ‘seeing evil being done and doing nothing’. Every single adult in this situation has failed jazz. For no good reason. Nothing useful is going to come of this. It’s going to make no mark on human history. It’s some reality TV fodder that will be forgotten. Jazz’s suffering is for no reason. It’s all just pointless, crude, incoherent suffering. There’s no need to reason your way into meaning here, it’s idiotic callous cowardly people being aimlessly destructive. I mean, maybe they think this social cause is important, but obviously it’s not- they’re like some primitive cult we’ll all forget about but for a footnote. I think I said somewhere earlier about laughing about this but its really not funny is it. I’m struggling to find any humour at all here any more it’s just fucking depressing. Going to shut up and lurk and let the funny kiwis provide commentary now

In case Jazz reads this thread, I don't hate you, kid. Your parents are lying to you, there is nothing wrong with being a boy who is into girly stuff. There was never a need to get surgery. Live your life for you and you alone.



Socialists expect the state will provide them with enough money to have all they want and consider that wigs and clothes to "express" themselves is a basic need that you're entitled to obtain by the rich's tax money because otherwise, you're gonna kill yourself.

That goes double for me. Try to be happy, Jazz. Even if it's hard. Once you wise up to the situation, sue Bowers and your parents for every last cent they have.

Triple for me. Jazz, you were way too young for anyone to declare you unequivocally 'trans' when they did, and even though I believe your parents have made a lot of misguided decisions for you, I do believe they truly love you and that they believed (with the supposed 'experts' like Bowers and Ting encouraging them) that they were doing all the right things for you - and that's only going to make things harder if one day you want to hold them to account for the pain and suffering you've been through as a result of their 'good intentions'. But while the blockers and SRS (and the meds you'll still be taking for the rest of your life) are the kind of thing you may eventually be able to sue over, your parent's equally misguided decision to make your life so public (and basically put this immense pressure on you - a literal child - to be "the role model for trans kids everywhere") was just as harmful and potentially damaging long-term IMHO but it's much less clear how you could prove damages from that (in a court of law). Yet taken together, both decisions have made it literally impossible for you to ever have a 'normal' body again, and pretty much impossible for you to ever have a 'normal' life. You must feel unbelievable pressure to push any doubts you have away because you do clearly care about the 'trans community,' and I'm sure you know very well that there's very little space in that community for trans people who admit doubts, or regrets, or choose to detrans... I hope as you get older, you will either enjoy a private life somewhere without a TV crew in sight, or you'll use your platform to help educate other kids that transitioning is not always a bed of roses.

The good news is, you don't have to have a 'normal' life to have a happy one - and you're an adult now, so you (mostly - again, you'll be on meds your whole life, but so are many of us with chronic health conditions; the shame is that yours was 100% preventable) get to decide how you live from here. And I really do believe you could have a happy life ahead of you... but I think that will depend on interests and skills you either have or develop that don't revolve around being transgender. If 'being transgender' continues to be basically the only thing you have in your life/your entire identity, I worry happiness will always be just out of reach.

I'm a mother. My son is a very sensitive kid, he's not really into rough-and-tumble anything and he has as many girl friends as boy friends, and I know that at least one of my aunties (the only religious one, who I avoid like the plague, because like many god-botherers she's about as un-Christian as you can be) gossips that my 'sensitive' boy = gay. He's in second grade! And sure, he could be gay (I don't think he is, but it wouldn't shock or horrify me if he was) but it's all a moot point anyway because again, he's only just turned 8. Now, in preschool he had a different girlfriend or boyfriend every week, and some moms commented on that as if it was proof my three-year-old was bisexual - I just answered "he's three. He thinks 'boyfriend' or 'girlfriend' means 'my favourite person right now,' and I don't see any harm being done... well, except for adults sexualising my three-year-old's friendships, of course." It wasn't long before he stopped having 'boyfriends' completely... and I honestly don't know if that was because someone told him that boys don't have boyfriends, or if his rapidly evolving language skills just meant he realised that wasn't the right word. I hope it was the latter, because I'd have no problem with my son (once he's actually old enough to date, of course!) having a boyfriend - although he still has plenty of crushes (all on girls), so at this point it seems like I did the right thing not making any fuss at all about his preschool 'boyfriends.'

That said, while I've always said my son can grow up and marry whoever he wants (because in both his countries, he can, and he has many friends with two moms or two dads, so there's been no need for me to 'push' this idea on him at all, it's already what he sees in his everyday life) I have absolutely no time for the regressive, stereotypical bullshit people use today to diagnose kids as 'transgender.' My son has come to me a few times over the years saying "so-and-so said I can't like this book/game/movie, it's for girls' and I say 'well that's just silly, because you're a boy, so whatever you like is obviously something boys can like... and you know the truth about 'boy things' and 'girl things' anyway' (We lived between two - well three, actually - countries pre-coronavirus, and I took every opportunity to show my son that the "rules" about boy things and girl things are different everywhere, different across time, and are basically anything but set-in-stone 'rules'.) It also helps that I'm a grown-up tomboy who doesn't like many 'girly' things at all, yet I'm very proud to be a woman and I'm utterly devoted as a mom... Jazz, I've seen that picture of your 'happiest birthday' (5?) when you were allowed to wear a girl's swimsuit so many times... and it's all metallic and multicoloured... I'd bet half the boys in my son's class would also love to wear that swimsuit because it's shiny and fun, not because they're secretly trans. You deserved parents who could tell the difference... or who maybe thought "well, the twins are obviously so tight, it's only natural Jazz would look to Ari for that kind of sibling bond, and so his interest is probably mostly in simply having someone to play with, not mostly in playing with Ari's "girl things" (I have an older and younger brother, we're all long since adults now, and my little brother has followed me in almost everything I've done since he was tiny... not because he is or wants to be a girl, but because I was way more interested in the new baby than my older brother and had a ton of time and patience for him that my big brother didn't... it's actually very common for older sisters to be like 'little moms' to new babies in a family while older brothers think "great, an annoying, crying, stinky, attention-drain.")

I do not believe Jan has good intentions and is just misguided, she’s mental. Maybe it started as some kind of post-partum psychosis, we don’t know the intricacies of her mind, other people here have speculated on the reasons this child had to be the ‘special’ one. Whatever it is, she’s sick and abusive. And fair enough if you want to give her a pass for reasons of broken brain. But there are many other fully-functioning adults here who did nothing to stop it. What kind of dad sits back and lets the mother of his kids abuse them? What kind of grandparents step back and let their kids abuse their grandchildren? They are the people we talk about in the cliche of ‘seeing evil being done and doing nothing’. Every single adult in this situation has failed jazz. For no good reason. Nothing useful is going to come of this. It’s going to make no mark on human history. It’s some reality TV fodder that will be forgotten. Jazz’s suffering is for no reason. It’s all just pointless, crude, incoherent suffering. There’s no need to reason your way into meaning here, it’s idiotic callous cowardly people being aimlessly destructive. I mean, maybe they think this social cause is important, but obviously it’s not- they’re like some primitive cult we’ll all forget about but for a footnote. I think I said somewhere earlier about laughing about this but its really not funny is it. I’m struggling to find any humour at all here any more it’s just fucking depressing. Going to shut up and lurk and let the funny kiwis provide commentary now

I have to say, Since Jazz has had the surgeries and know exactly how they fucked him up, and he is still going around to elementary schools and telling kids to go get the surgery or become trans, I no longer feel any sort of sympathy for him. He is just as bad as his mother, because he knows for a fact this propaganda is bullshit and yet he is trying to influence kids into following in his footsteps to ruin their lives like his parents did to him. I hope he joins the 41 percent soon to prevent him from influencing kids.

 

[Safir]

I have to say, Since Jazz has had the surgeries and know exactly how they fucked him up, and he is still going around to elementary schools and telling kids to go get the surgery or become trans, I no longer feel any sort of sympathy for him. He is just as bad as his mother, because he knows for a fact this propaganda is bullshit and yet he is trying to influence kids into following in his footsteps to ruin their lives like his parents did to him. I hope he joins the 41 percent soon to prevent him from influencing kids.

I think you're being unfair. David Reimer's situation was "better" - he was mentally an adult, lived in a more accepting time, and had supportive parents (who had reasonably good intentions but horrifically failed to safeguard him). And he still killed himself (and his brother OD'ed). Jazz has an underdeveloped brain, a host of behavioral issues, evil parents, no job, no skills, and a society that would be extremely hostile to a detrooning attempt.

You think, "if I wake up tomorrow with butchered genitals, of course I'll dedicate my life to stoping dickburglars!" Yeah no shit, you weren't abused since birth.

As for the 41%, it's all the same to the troon lobby if he lives or dies. They've claimed David Reimer, for fuck's sake ("see, his inborn gender identity was male - forcing a trans girl to live as a boy would be equally cruel"). It may even be better that he's a living trainwreck, not brave and stunning roadkill.

Jazz is not malicious. He doesn't understand what's been done to him. His life depends on him not understanding. I don't blame him.

 

[KeepHopeAlive]

His life depends on him not understanding.

I think he has an inkling or the beginning of one, which is why he is so opposed to real talk therapy. FFS his aunt is a troon therapist and yet Jeannette is opposed to it also?? That bitch butchered her own kid mentally and let the Mengeles do the heavy lifting.

Unfortunately I'm guessing this lockdown is wreaking havoc on Jazz' mental health. Good luck with that Jeannette. As I said before, you deserve every tear you both shed.

 

[MiniMuffin]

And on another note, here is another troon’s botched surgery. His neovag smells like shit. Permanently apparently.

 

[Carnavoyeur]

And on another note, here is another troon’s botched surgery. His neovag smells like shit. Permanently apparently.

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I was hoping for Reddit to tell me this user had deleted their profile, but they're still posting. And big surprise, getting his dick cut off didn't help.

 

[Standardized Profile]

I was hoping for Reddit to tell me this user had deleted their profile, but they're still posting. And big surprise, getting his dick cut off didn't help.

This user's history is like every horrifying tranny story rolled up into one. Self-castration? Check. Fecal lopsided stinkditch full of hair? Check. Randomly-positioned vestigial micropenis? Check. Getting rejected by straight men and fetishists, and realizing you'll die alone? Check. But he is 100% better off and doesn't regret it at all, he says.

 

[Skullshatterer]

I took a quick look at this users posts and I have a morbid curiosity to see how the hell it turned out to be like but not enough to the point I'd make a reddit account to look at it.

 

[Krokodil Overdose]

And on another note, here is another troon’s botched surgery. His neovag smells like shit. Permanently apparently.

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As it turns out, using intestinal tissue to create a fauxgina also involves the associated gut flora.

Who saw THAT one coming?

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

As it turns out, using intestinal tissue to create a fauxgina also involves the associated gut flora.

Who saw THAT one coming?

That's why Jazz had the other horrible srs. Which was also a complete disaster.

 

[MiniMuffin]

This user's history is like every horrifying tranny story rolled up into one. Self-castration? Check. Fecal lopsided stinkditch full of hair? Check. Randomly-positioned vestigial micropenis? Check. Getting rejected by straight men and fetishists, and realizing you'll die alone? Check. But he is 100% better off and doesn't regret it at all, he says.

Actually one of the posts says the person deeply regrets getting SRS and feels like they were misled by the trans community. Too late now.