The Last of Us Franchise - Because it's apparently a franchise now. This thread has been double-DMCA’d by Sony Interactive Entertainment.

My favorites were the Maxis games. SimAnt/SimCity/SimLife/ElFish etc all came with 200+ page manuals that doubled as miniature biology courses on whatever the game's topic was. Those got me interested in biology and research sims in a big way as a kid.

I scored a copy of the hitchhiker's guide text adventure at one point in the last decade and was amazed at the sheer volume of feelies. There were a ton of manuals/pamphlets in alien languages, a subatomic space fleet (empty ziploc bag) and a real life replica of the game's most important item: no tea.

I had SimIsle and it came with a manual, in the back of which was a whole chapter on how they based the ecology and culture off the Dayak peoples of South East Asia.

The in-game codex was hilariously blackly written and made it quite clear that you were exploiting the fuck out the place, right down to referring to "native worker-units" and how all your agents were a bit dodgy.

Oh, and the game of Shannara, despite being designed by Lori and Corey Cole (of QFG fame) was a real step down in quality from Legend Entertainment's other offerings IMO. A lot of it felt like corners were cut and was excessively linear. Their Companions of Xanth (which was designed alongside Piers Anthony writing "Demons Don't Dream") was pretty cool in a suitably whacked out kind of way and thankfully predates Piers Anthony deciding to actually become a "dirty old man" in his words, and their adaptation of Weis & Hickman's Death Gate was pretty damn tasty in fact and arguably their ending to the series makes more sense than the official one (which involves the protagonist being blasted out of existence but inadvertently having transferred his soul to his dog and the big bad losing because of some karmic foreshadowing done four books ago. Ugh. The last volume of Death Gate was a mess and all downhill after the Battle of Abri.)

Dark Reign, a really grimdark RTS, had some nice feelies as well. The front half of the manual was dedicated to the backstory of how Earth died of pollution in the 26th century and how humanity's only hope was convicts on one way starships to habitable worlds, and once they were ready the prison administration took over the place and controlled everything by rationing water - and then genetically modified the convicts into a literal slave race with black eyeballs and who all died at age 25. A couple centuries later, the truth about this comes out and the result is a galaxy-wide civil war between the Imperium, who were the descendants of the prison administration with bionic troopers and sleek black hovertanks with energy weapons, and the Freedom Guard, the aforementioned slave race insurgents and their sympathisers who have jury-rigged but effective looking gear and suicide bombers. The grimdark comes from the fact that both sides are bastards. It was also the first RTS I played where I actually felt like the AI was trying to beat me rather than following a script. The manual also had some nice fluff about various personalities on each side who had wonderful names like Jeb Radec, Gerhard Bantrill, Stiv Baator (one of the bad guys, ya think?), etc.
 
Xanth has Its Fucking Moments, but I have a real soft spot for (most) of the Incarnations of Immortality series. Apart from the crap ones. And the one about God that is openly pedo apologia.
 
Most emulation on PC runs better than the native console. Just look at dolphin. Now that the N64 source code leaked we will soon get perfect N64 emulation on PC.
There's no equivalent to dolphin for other consoles. And the source code leaking doesn't correlate to perfecting n64 emulation because each game has it's own source code.

For example PDS has had it's source code lost and it still has not been found. The developer of the Panzer Dragoon remake even said that if they ever get to Saga it's going to have to be rebuilt from the ground up.
 
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>make one of the best games ever
>only release a few thousand copies in the west
>for the fucking sega saturn
>lose the source code

Just Sega things.

Is it any surprise those exceptional individuals quit manufacturing consoles?
They still put out Arcade hardware. There's also supposedly more sega miniconsoles on the horizon.

But lost media in the formative years of something is not unheard of. There's Hitchcock films that are completely gone and we only know that they exist through a few stills.
 
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>make one of the best games ever
>only release a few thousand copies in the west
>for the fucking sega saturn
>lose the source code

Just Sega things.

Is it any surprise those exceptional individuals quit manufacturing consoles?
Hell I got one better.

>makes one of the most famous beat'em up series
>want to make a new one for the dreamcast
>Sega USA president hasn't heard of the series
>the project gets cancelled
>fans had to wait two decades for it to release

Man fuck Sega of America for screwing over the Saturn and Streets of Rage.
 
Hell I got one better.

>makes one of the most famous beat'em up series
>want to make a new one for the dreamcast
>Sega USA president hasn't heard of the series
>the project gets cancelled
>fans had to wait two decades for it to release

Man fuck Sega of America for screwing over the Saturn and Streets of Rage.
After the Genesis became big in America, Sega of Japan reigned in the American division in which is why they had a series of catastrophic failures. Sega of japan was really out of touch with America. It's why the Japanese Saturn Library is very good and the American one really isn't.

Mind you OG Sega of America is the entire reason why we have console wars. they were the ones who made those advertising campaigns.
 
After the Genesis became big in America, Sega of Japan reigned in the American division in which is why they had a series of catastrophic failures. Sega of japan was really out of touch with America. It's why the Japanese Saturn Library is very good and the American one really isn't.

Mind you OG Sega of America is the entire reason why we have console wars. they were the ones who made those advertising campaigns.
also in Dreamcast development, Sega of Japan cancelled contract with 3dfx (because 3dfx revealed it due to it's IPO) and gone with inferior Hitachi chip

when I heard about it first, I was like "wtf man, it's completly bonkers"
 
Hell I got one better.

>makes one of the most famous beat'em up series
>want to make a new one for the dreamcast
>Sega USA president hasn't heard of the series
>the project gets cancelled
>fans had to wait two decades for it to release

Man fuck Sega of America for screwing over the Saturn and Streets of Rage.
Don't forget

>Have a console with Low sales in Japan and America
>Create Segata Sanshiro for Japenease commercials
>See improved sales
>Don't try Segata Sanshiro in the west.
 
There's no equivalent to dolphin for other consoles. And the source code leaking doesn't correlate to perfecting n64 emulation because each game has it's own source code.

For example PDS has had it's source code lost and it still has not been found. The developer of the Panzer Dragoon remake even said that if they ever get to Saga it's going to have to be rebuilt from the ground up.
Cemu is also pretty good.
 
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Could you PLEASE stop posting every single video about TLoU 2 that comes out? Most of them don't provide any information about the game or Naughty Dog that we haven't heard about already.
Also there's no point until most of the ones claiming to sue actually nut up and do it, and/or the game comes out so that it can be scoured like the rot it is.
 
I used to love reading the old Blizzard manuals. If 20+ page sections devoted to the lore and backstory wasn't enough, they went into hardcore levels of contextual detail about every unit/character class. Even if they were making this shit up as they typed it (Amazons use crossbows ingame...because they once used them to defend their islands...from pirates) it felt like extra love and care.
You have no idea how much time I wasted trying to figure out how to make the knight units in Warcraft 2 use spears because the manual said they can.
 
All these posts are gold so Im stuck reading each, damn it!

Then again, this shit is far more consistent than my law school subjects, which basically resume into "Here is the system, no one understands the system, nobody but idiots obey the system, you will worship the system so you can benefit from it, the constitution is your bible, except when it isnt, then its okay to ditch it, only if you are the goverment tho."
 
TLOU was basically an intense character study of 2 people.
If Druckmann was a movie director, TLOU2 would premiere in Cannes, cause half the audience to leave in disgust, and get 30 minutes of standing ovation from the remaining bored rich fucks because they finally saw something aberrant enough that they were entertained.

Time was when games came with "feelies" like big printed maps
The GTA map was a fucking lifesaver. I must have spent hours trying to figure out where I was and where I needed to go to get across the damn water. And the Dune II anti-piracy scheme of requiring some tidbit of information from the manual was pretty clever.
 
Someone has mentioned "Go Set a Watchman" in my presence, so I'm going out of control right now since it hits a lot of my buttons jusssttt right. So before I go off, let me set the background

Everyone in US High School has read "To Kill a Mockingbird", everybody nearly universally. A few years ago, "Go Set a Watchmen" was 'discovered' as a 'sequel' to her breakthrough novel. However, it was later revealed this was pure bullshit. It turns out it was actually a very early draft of "To Kill a Mockingbird", there's no forward, it reuses passages from 'To Kill a Mockingbird' and has identical story beats. By the time it was released, Harper Lee was very old and possibly very senile by this point. The publishing of "Go Set a Watchman" comes two months after the death of her care-giver and sister, IE: The perfect time to take advantage of an old woman. So it was basically put out to get money as controversy by VERY unscrupulous people. The novel doesn't actually exist, it isn't real (in story terms, that is). It is fraud masquerading itself as something different to drum up money by hitting the IdPol demo and controversy. It isn't a real sequel, and in actuality, it doesn't really exist at all. Harper Lee has stated many times she didn't want to publish another book, no editor she knew knew about it and it was only viewed as a draft, not as a separate entity. Which is why everyone close to her went 'wtf'. If you pick up 'Go Set a Watchmen', its basically the physical manifestation of fraud in your hands.

It was straight up generated from elder abuse. I hate everyone involved in publishing it, I think its fucking disgusting what was done and the marketing whores should be shot. Anyone who likes Go Set a Watchman is a pretentious faggot and almost certain to be wrong on every aspect of story writing. Its one of the books that I think should be removed from shelves and burned.

In short, fuck Go Set A Watchmen.

Jeeeeesus Christ, I never knew that shit! I just remember it was a Big Deal when it came out, but I had so little interest in it that I barely paid it any attention; eventually it fizzled out and I didn't question it.

In comparison, Druckman is a sad nobody soyboy whose own fetish vanity project drove his parent company to embarrassment, killed his studio and his career. In short, he doesn't deserve to be remembered. He's too pathetic. Its what his ego wants.

The question is, will the very public failure of IdPol, ugly women and the like have any effect? This disaster is still in progress, so we can't say for certain if it will have a lasting impact. But we do know it will more than likely demolish Druckman and Naughty Dog.

My guess is that this is more of the crumbling of the pillar of IdPol in entertainment and will probably be pointed to as an example of its inevitable failure in the medium. I don't think this is enough to be a major catalyst to blow up that foundation, but the cracks are showing and the pillar is crumbling more and more.

God, the crumbling can't come soon enough. It's like a seven-year migraine that's just starting to taper off.

Don't get me wrong, I don't want to go back to the mid 2000s where 1 Million Moms was devolving into hysterics whenever two gay guys held hands on television, but I so badly want to at least get to a point where someone can critique an SJW's shitty take on Twitter without being accused of being a racist/sexist/homophobe etc.
 
I've been thinking on what Sony and through its proxy, Muso LTD has done here, and I have reached a conclusion. For the first time that I can think of, we may have an actual violation of Title 18 (US Criminal Code), Section 241. Conspiracy against rights. This one is the less sexy version compared to section 242, which deals with race and gender. Section 241 predates the Civil Rights Act, having been passed in 1948. Its been since ignored as the more sexy 242 was far more explicit and dealt with what was at the time the pressing issue of race.

The full text of the statute reads as follows.

If two or more persons conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or because of his having so exercised the same; or
If two or more persons go in disguise on the highway, or on the premises of another, with intent to prevent or hinder his free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege so secured—

They shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, they shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.


According to the Department of Justice (https://www.justice.gov/crt/conspiracy-against-rights)

Section 241 of Title 18 is the civil rights conspiracy statute. Section 241 makes it unlawful for two or more persons to agree together to injure, threaten, or intimidate a person in any state, territory or district in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him/her by the Constitution or the laws of the Unites States, (or because of his/her having exercised the same). Unlike most conspiracy statutes, Section 241 does not require that one of the conspirators commit an overt act prior to the conspiracy becoming a crime.

So why is Sony in trouble? Because for the first time ever we have the perfect storm. Two separate legal entities, Sony and Muso TNT ltd working in concert towards the same goal. Suppressing the speech of anyone bringing up the naughty dog leaks. We know for a FACT they are working in concert because both Muso and Sony itself have been cited as the declaring parties of the various storm of DMCAs. Even here at the Kiwifarms. So we know that the two are working together. They have said so. Worse, they are doing so under the Color of the Law, via the Copyright Act and the DMCA provisions. I have wondered for some time just why it is Sony is using a Britbong shell company to do its dirty work, and I have come to realize its because no American lawyer was willing to do what they wanted them to do. This sort of thing could literally get them disbarred. So Sony had to go abroad and bring in some British scalpers to do its dirty work in America.

Which comes to the true crux of the matter. Unlike Prior fraudulent DMCA takedowns, this one was non specific. They did not go after one guy like most DMCA sheisters. They went after everyone and ANYONE talking about the naughty dog. And the talking about is key, because even videos that showed no Sony property and were just discussing the matter were struck utilizing the authority of federal law. Which means we can show through a massive preponderance of evidence that the goal was not securing their intellectual property under the Copyright Act. It was to use the Copyright Right act to shut down speech Sony had deemed counter to its interests.

In essence, Muso and Sony conspired to deprive through threat and intimidation persons of a state, territory, possession or District of the United States the free exercise and enjoymentt of their first amdnement rights secured by the constitution and laws of the United States. In violation of Title 18, Section 241. Its no accident then that Sony of EUROPE and some bottom feeding London Lawyers did this. This is honestly something worth bringing up with a US Attorney, who unlike a rando internet youtube sperg, has the resources to take on something as large as Sony.

As the primary issues have occurred on youtube, this governing Federal District would be the Northern District of California. Anyone effected should go there, or roll the dice and try and call them.


Additionally, if anyone effected is in New York, the Southern District of New York would be your go too. Even better, they actually have a reporting function.


But my personal favorite would be the Eastern District of Virginia.


If any youtuber is in their area, definitely go to them. This district has the most experience in civil rights issues and international shenanigans. Its also the least likely one to look favorably on business and big tech when its involving it.

When you contact them, make sure its clear that YOU are the victim, and the law that has been violated. Rando spergs spamming them won't help. If any US attorney deigns to descend from his (or her) ivory tower, it will be for a US person, who concisely claims someone did unto them in violation of US law. Going to the trouble of showing up in person greatly raises credibility incidentally. They get a ton of nonsense from the internet. Very few people actually go to the trouble of actually going there and putting pen to paper.
 
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Sony is definitely breaking the law but you are crazy if you think you can successfully sue them in court. They're a billion dollar company with an army of lawyers.

It's not really the money, it's the PR that will bite you in the ass if you be as much of a dick as you could be. If Sony doubles down on fan outrage, they could fuck up so hard on the Streisand effect that it turns into something even normies care about.

Also this is a fascinating thread and I gleefully await the usual suspects committing it to posterity. If this turns into more of a tire fire than usual we might luck out and get an Internet Historian video in a year or so.
 
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