Megathread TERFs / Trans-Exclusionary Radical Feminists / Gender Critical Feminists - ft. r/GenderCritical & related reddits, Mancheeze, Cathy Brennan, GCDad, RadFHarva, Jamie Shupe, etc; "Gender Critical Feminism is Homophobic" - Cathy Brennan, 2019.

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I wonder how many of them are actually indoctrinated, and how many are simply bad people who came across radical feminism and was like "great I've got an easy out now!"
That's the $1,000,000 (oops, gender pay gap) $820,000 question. You see that a lot in these sorts of groups: an awful person find a group that excuses their terrible behavior and becomes a part of it. But these people are usually both driven and ambitious, so they tend to climb up the ranks pretty quickly.

Personally, I just assume anyone being exceptionally loud and venomous in their accusations (double points if they're vying for power in their group) has skeletons in their closet that they're trying to hide. Either their own sociopathic tendencies, or their secret activities that go against the group's thinking. You can bet good money that a considerable proportion of (very loud and aggressive) TERFs have a deeply suppressed kink for being raped or dominated by men and in order to distract themselves from it they project their "guilt" onto other people.

I'd love to see the porn search histories of some of these people. Oh, the stories those private searches could tell...
 
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I've been lurking r/GenderCritical off and on for a few years now. Always get a kick out of how conservative-minded they are when it comes to sex, dating, and relationships yet they seem to stop short of concluding that it was probably the old conservative culture of "slut shaming" which maintained that status quo and prevented "hookup culture" from developing.

No slut shaming -> no real social consequences to promiscuity -> more men have access to commitment-free sex options -> more men viewing relationships as an unnecessary hassle -> male demand for relationships lowers

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Yes they often come across like Baptist Berthas when it comes to sex. Super conservative and constantly triggered by things that aren't even factual.

Sex Positive has never meant you must drop trou and bend over with anyone/anywhere/anytime. It has never meant become a prostitute or stripper for shits and giggles. Or take a train bareback.

These women quoted in the attachment sound very beaten down by the whole experience. No wonder if they think guys should change their FB status to 'in a relationship with Terfi Terven' after a few dates. They want full commitment ASAP.

There are plenty of women taking advantage of these dating apps and are enjoying themselves as much as the men. These apps are the closest thing straight women have to the beats and bathhouse experience that gay men have enjoyed for decades, a perusal and a few swipes and a brief chat and you can hook up. Reasonably anonymous sexual freedom. Perhaps those women are looking for love in all the wrong places, perhaps they should just stop looking period.

According to Rad Fems women can't experience pleasure for their own sake without being 'used' or making it harder for other women, as if it lowers the collective value of women if a few of them are slutting it up. No man will pay for the cow when those girls are giving away their dairy for free.
 
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How do you verify something like this over the internet, anyway? Someone could be claiming to be a female.
I don’t what to tell you, man, it’s always been known...like back to the 1970s. Fanfic is a female hobby.

(I feel like we should take it to PMs (or is there another subforum where it fits idk) ok because this whole area is one where I sperg uncontrollably and not in a way that will be entertaining for anyone on this board)
 
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And they should all be gay bombed on top of that so no men have to put up with them and they have to deal with eachother. The domestic violence will be through the roof.
They should put their alimony and welfare payments where their mouths are and really become separatists. Get some cheap land and build and maintain their own cloistered community. Since none of them are true and honest dykes they couldn't build a bear in a Build-A-Bear Workshop let alone homestead. Retarded fuckers.
 
I don’t what to tell you, man, it’s always been known...like back to the 1970s. Fanfic is a female hobby.

(I feel like we should take it to PMs (or is there another subforum where it fits idk) ok because this whole area is one where I sperg uncontrollably and not in a way that will be entertaining for anyone on this board)

You might as well ask me how the autism required to create schematics of Idk fictional spaceships and such shows it‘s a male hobby. And of course, we do know exactly who writes published romance novels. It’s the same. The fandom overlap is enormous. Even 13-yo girls writing fic who insist they aren’t writing romance eventually give up and admit they are. I don’t write fanfic or read it for enjoyment, but I do write *about* it, and about romance. How do you know incel boards and chans aren’t mostly males instead of females LARPing as males? Sure, there are some females, but the community is not by or for them and the effort just isn’t right with their energy and you can tell, and they will never belong there or be able to change it. It is male.

I mean sure some dudes are out there writing fanfic with no romantic or sexual relationship focus, but that isn’t the fanfic women read, and fic readership is female, so it doesn’t get read. Men just don’t write romance that women will read. I don’t think they can. There’s been like...a handful over the decades. Leigh Greenwood. Damon Suede (lol the name) writes gay shit, and just like any guy who bursts into a female field, he was petted and indulged and crowned (and then he hilariously fucked it all up, because as it turns out he got outmaneuvered on the progressive stack! I wish I had the energy to do a romancelandia post, my siiiiiiides).

You can blame this on women if you like, but fanfic is free romance, it just is, and men can’t write it. I don’t know any lesbians who write romance non-lesbians will read, either. Just like you, I am sure, can tell when a female is trying to write gay stuff. Right? I am certain that you can. Female energy applied to writing about romance and sex feels different than male energy writing about it. We are, for the most part, a romantically dimorphic species.

It really is specific to the romance and fanfic area, because it is just so completely attuned to what women find important and want and so, frankly, entirely unconcerned with what men find important and want *even when they’re the object* that men just can’t. I am sure that like any rule, there is the very occasional outlier. Thing is, if a male could actually write romance for women, which is what fanfic that gets read always contains, he’d shoot to the top of popularity lists just like any time a guy does anything mostly women are doing. A guy comes into any (lol non RadFem) female space and he’s petted and indulged and told that his low effort Feelin Cute pics and shaky winged eyeliner are super hot and girls are so jealous!!! But the guy in the writing scenario would have a much harder time simply because it takes no time or effort or money to lie that an ugly is cute, but it takes hours to read something, and if your heart isn’t in it you’ll give up. And you read fic or romance to fill a need, not to fucking *learn* something, or endure it because the author is a member of several minority groups and you want to virtue signal, goddamn. That only works in YA because “hi I’m an aroace NB TWOC, read my drivel” will get sold and bought by SJW librarians and schools. Romance does not get bought to put in school libraries.

This is also why we haven’t seen hordes of AGPs trying to infiltrate and take over. There is too much labor involved on the AGP’s behalf. He will either have to read tons of female writing that isn’t for him and in which he has no interest, or produce writing that no one will read because virtue signaling that way takes too long.

This sometimes frustrates men who think it’ll be easy, but they’ll be fine, because then they’ll go off and if they’re any good they will write sff or other genre stuff that is more suited for their sensibilities anyway. Why would the next Brandon Sanderson want to waste his fanfic talents trying to ape female romance writing style when he can hone his talents in a productive direction that’ll see him get the contract when GRRM kicks it?

Well you just need to look back at around the origin of the slashfic

 
An insight into Terven behaviour. No sooner has Farmer @Dr Louise Moody ‘s wife dies than the feminists return to type and become catty, gossipy, and vile towards someone who has suffered a devastating loss.
Women should only have supervised access to the internet once they have married (a man, obvs).
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I don’t what to tell you, man, it’s always been known...like back to the 1970s

What is that supposed to mean "like back to the 1970s"? Do you realize this is 2020? You are referring to 50 year old data.
That's all pre-civilian internet stuff.
Are you gonna tell me that "internet users are predominantly male" too, just because it used to be so back in the 1970s-1990s?
We know that's no longer the case.
That why you need recent data, not 50 year old claims from the pre-civilian internet stone age.

And of course, we do know exactly who writes published romance novels.

Yes, I have read Reading The Romance too. It was published in 1984. Again, you are referencing pre-civilian internet stuff from 40-50 years ago.
Where are your recent sources backing your claims?

Well you just need to look back at around the origin of the slashfic

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirk/Spock

Honey, I am looong familiar with all this, you're not showing me anything new. I first read about this phenomenon back in the mid 1990s (in fact, I think I still have that interview somewhere). Like I said, when I got online in the 1990s, the first fanfic I ever encountered was not pretend-gay slashfic, it was pretend-hetero fanfic between Scully and Mulder from The X-Files (for the zoomers lurking, this was a popular sci-fi drama series in the 1990s) that was written by a middle-aged lesbian couple taking turns writing one another messages as those main characters (one would write the Mulder/male parts and the other the Scully/female parts). This example alone puts into question Sarah's claims (in that video I posted) that 1) slashfic is by/for young sexually inexperienced (read: conveniently infantilized by feminists) women (neglecting all the older sexually experienced women that write/read it) 2) it's young women fetishizing/idealizing gay romance (not middle-aged lesbians idealizing hetero(a)sexual romance). My point is that it's very typically TERF to ignore anything and everything that falls outside the very narrow TERF scope. TERFs can justify young sexually inexperienced girls fetishizing gay romance with a convenient reference to their assumed sexual inexperience/innocence, they cannot justify mature sexually experienced lesbians fetishizing a hetero couple like Mulder and Scully because those mature lesbian women do have agency and cannot be conveniently infantilized. That's obviously very inconvenient to TERFs, so they just ignore the latter. Very TERF indeed.

This is also why we haven’t seen hordes of AGPs trying to infiltrate and take over. There is too much labor involved on the AGP’s behalf.

On the other hand they have already written rims and rims of all types of erotica pornography online and offline, but anyway. Again, how do you know this with such certainty? According to TERFs troons have infiltrated every female-majority space online and offline... except for fanfic? You seriously believe that?

(Last post from me on this topic BTW, because I have some other Reddit shit I need to share with the thread.)
 

"Victimize me"? You're not a victim - you said something stupid on a public platform and is getting the response accordingly. That sort of victim mentality is exhausting - she should just get her tubes tied and never ever consider having kids.

I think it's amusing that TERFs don't ever seem to realise that they're truly being treated equally when they actually get feedback on their stupidity.
 
They should put their alimony and welfare payments where their mouths are and really become separatists. Get some cheap land and build and maintain their own cloistered community. Since none of them are true and honest dykes they couldn't build a bear in a Build-A-Bear Workshop let alone homestead. exceptional fuckers.
Living off the grid would be impossible for these people. To live a joyous life in nature and focus on your work and community? Not a chance. They need a stable and constant stream of asspats to feed their unending attention. Plus, i doubt any of these would be able to even cook white rice or make a fried egg. Living in a homstead would be a nightmare for them and they would cry to leave after a couple of days.

And that is if they can survive not having internet.
I think it's amusing that TERFs don't ever seem to realise that they're truly being treated equally when they actually get feedback on their stupidity.
You should remember these women think that they can't do no wrong or evil in any shape or form just because they have a vagina. So it's believable when they call any sort of appropriate answer to their stupid decisions and deranged acts "harassment". Because if a woman behaves like a dumb motherfucker shouldn't be called a dumb motherfucker, you evil shitlord.
 
I decided to browse /r/PinkPillFeminism again to see if they were posting anything about Covid-19 and I found this:

All or mostly women jobs?
Fellow radfems, are there jobs where the workplace is mostly or all women? The quarantine killed my job and more permanently, the nonprofit I was working for. I've worked jobs where there are mostly men and they are horrible.

It is easy to delete the XY from much of the rest of my life but this realm is tricky since I'm so much at the mercy of who chooses to hire me.

Beggars can't be choosers honey.

BTW, this statement in response (that you don't need a degree to be a vet nurse) is absolutely a straight up lie:

Veterinary is like 80%+ women, and in most places I don't think you need a degree to be a vet nurse.

I love nothing more than radfems bluffing their asses off on the internet.

This answer is also fantastic and is #peakTERF to the max:

form your own nonprofit organization of female Volunteers and male labor laws can't do shit about it.

Oh yeah, exploit other recently laid-off women for free while hoarding all the donations for yourself. What could be more sisterly than the Alpha female exploiting all the Beta females for no pay? In the midst of the worst unemployment wave in decades?

This person p0wns them:

Well it doesn’t adhere very well to radical feminism, but makeup artist or hairdresser lol. The only male co workers I’ve had as a makeup artist for the last 4 years have been gay men, and only a couple at that. But I will say working at a makeup store was a good experience because it was all women your age (ie under 30 for the most part) and everyone would help each other, and you could tell your manager you have to go home sick because of a UTI with no shame.

The most feminine and female centered job is ironically the job these TERFs hate the most because "make-up is slave-paint".

This post got them all hot and bothered of course:


Which led to this post, which was my pesonal Covid-19 highlight of the week:

I wouldn’t be surprised if we found out that it Wasn’t the consumption of a bat that caused covid-19, but sex with an animal that created it. Other diseases have been created by men and their sticking their peepees anywhere, it’s terrifying

I'm sure y'all have seen the brouhaha about this Pink News article about the lesbo who escaped the TERF cult only to re-join the SJW troon cult, LMAO, I guess it's either the devil you know or the devil you don't know:

EXCLUSIVE: The ‘gender critical’ feminist movement is a cult that grooms, controls and abuses, according to a lesbian who managed to escape

Before anything else, it's just a clickbait article with a whole bunch of claims and absolutely no receipts whatsoever. Show us the evidence or STFU.

Now, I'm not gonna deny that TERFs are a cult, they are a cult, that's why I can't stand them or the troons. They are both terrible, they deserve eachother and they are truly a match made in hell. I have said many times before on this forum that I see them both as competing SJW cults trying to control the public discourse in their favour. Troons are winning out because they are better connected to the power elite, but if TERFs themselves had those connections, they'd be banning and censoring just as hard.

This article reminds me of all those Livestreams by Terri Strange I've posted here where she suggested that she was subjected to "COINTELPRO" and "mindfucks" by WoLF and that other lesbian from Baltimore, Julia Beck. I don't know if anyone saw them when I posted them, but I remember I posted a Livestream (I don't have the link anymore) where Terri was reading from an anarchist fanzine about COINTELPRO. When she got to the part in the fanzine about infiltrators Terri said that she had people infiltrate her life and the groups she was involved with.

Anyway, I don't know if this shit is related to that, but he level of paranoia is definitely equal. Could it be that Amy watched those Livestreams and began to "connect the dots" herself? The LGBT is full paranoia, often compounded by drugs.

I guess this is true of all marginal people, when they encounter organized groups, at first they are wowed by it but then they begin to distrust it because all they've known all their lives is chaos and disorder, so if someone is part of something organized they must be nefarious and out to "get them" or whatever paranoia they conjure up in their heads because they can't process the idea of organized groups.

And since I brought up Terri Strange again, Terri isn't above cult-like behaviour herself. Terri Strange is simply practicing her own version of of what Stefan Molyneux cult members refer to as "defoo", or the ditching of close friends of family in order to immerse yourself more fully in the teachings of the cult-leader.

Other cult-like aspects of TERFs: Leah Tverly openly admitted she too "defoo"-ed when she became a radical feminist. She was friends with regular women on Facebook - women who wear make up, date men, etc - but she declared them all HOPs and dumped them all to become a radfem.

More cult-like aspects of TERFs: Both Tverly and Terri openly admit they don't condemn illegal activity, Terri openly associates with an extremist like Tverly who has repeatedly called for violence, but then acts surprised that she might be under investigation.

Terri seems to have mostly abandoned radical politcs of late and appears to have gotten more into new age witchy-woo. This more spiritual realm she's getting into is only making her feel more paranoid though, because it encourages her to look for signs and omens and read shit into everything, everything becomes a potential warning of impending doom. Terri doesn't understand that her feelings of paranoia have more to do with being actually sick and physically vulnerable. When Terri abandoned materialism and objectivity (she made a video about that here) she abandoned a material objective analysis of her own paranoia. It's very simple: when you are sick (which Terri is, she has talked about her arthritis in many videos and Livestreams), you feel inherently exposed. You don't need this COINTELPRO bullshit to explain that feeling of feeling vulnerable. Perhaps you shouldn't be making life harder for yourself, exactly because you are sick and incapable in many ways. Perhaps your life would've been easier if you had a family to rely on. Perhaps radical feminism is only suitable for superwomen, not for sickly arthritic paranoiacs.
 
@Nykysnottrans you are totally right about Terri Strange. Last I saw of her she was drawing her stupid art and playing wimmins music or discussing witchshit.

Leah assumed her audience was 30+ and not the teens watching it for lulz that she realized from her stats. I think that was an ego blow. But of course she doubled down and got into a bikini to show her amazing terven body. Ick.

Now Leah sits in a group chat all day with Elle 'tragedy victim'' Crevier and Sarah (who had the video on women writing home slash) and Ingryd (Dworkin's Ghost). Apparently the revolution is planned assuming Elle can get a babysitter that day.

Terri very much has herself to blame for being on the outs with everyone. She really deserves her own thread, she's a big cow with a lot of terfy milk.
 
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@Salad_Dodger Here is the kind of woman that makes the brain of women like Leah and Terri spontaneously explode:


"OMG how can this woman be such a HOP, a cheerleader and a nurse (FEMININE PROFESSION Y'ALL) at the same time? THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE! Cheerleaders cannot be nurses, cheerleaders are HOPs and HOPs alone!"

Um, perhaps because she is a multiphaseted, self-actualized woman who can be multiple things all at once, and thus the polar opposite of you two monomaniacs? 🙄 It's a thought.

Seriously, do they realize that these are the kinds of women they are dragging when they go around calling every woman who wears make up, is athletic and works a feminine job "HOPs" and "fuck robots"? I guess they'd rather not know.
 
Seriously, do they realize that these are the kinds of women they are dragging when they go around calling every woman who wears make up, is athletic and works a feminine job "HOPs" and "fuck robots"? I guess they'd rather not know.

Shouldn't these TERF's be dating incels then? They seem to have a lot of overlapping opinions.
 
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