Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[Barnard]

Results from the screening of Silesian miners are still flowing in, currently over 2300 have tested positive out of a total of 14 000. And in another interesting piece of news, a city with a very Polish name (Łódź) has carried out antibody testing for nursery and kindergarten personnel, to see if it's safe to reopen them. Well, 456 samples out of 3337 came up positive or "uncertain" (not sure what uncertain is supposed to mean in this context, just quoting the mayor). And unlike miners, in this case we're talking about people who have been sitting on their asses at home for the last two months. When did they catch it?

 

[EmuWarsVeteran]

Not so much quit, more of a forcible firing. It didn’t work out terribly well the last time it happened, although I hear the restoration was a lot of fun.

the Brits are polite but we don’t like certain types of corruption. We of course have corruption just like everyone else, but the media (especially the good old gutter press) will mercilessly go after anyone corrupt.

where we fail is the same places everyone has - this slow creep, the slow changing of goalposts and slow slide towards the bottom. We see it everywhere. But it’s happened because people are comfortable. People go on about 1984 but the better comparison is brave new world. It’s not a jackboot on our necks, because if you repress and push people enough they will push back. It’s the tyranny of comfort. If people are comfy, fat, and stupified by social media, shit TV etc, they just can’t be arsed rebelling. Bread and circuses.
Once you start removing that comfort, you have problems. If the soma, TV, shiny gadgets stop flowing and if people can’t feed their families - that’s when people will revolt.

See. The thing that astounds me is. Here, and in most of the world, when a king is stupid enough not to quit after pissing them off, we don't forcibly fire the guy. I mean really that's juat asking for him to conspire how to find a way back. We get the gun (or sword. Or guillotine. Or axe. Latest one was Carrero Blanco, the original choice of successor by franco. We disposed of the guy with a good old bomb under his car (and that is not stuck to the car but on a tunnel under the road), it had so much explosive in it the car flew over the roof of the nearest building and into the patio. People to this day are still making the "is that a bird? Is it a plane? No, it's carrero blanco!" Joke.) And make sure he doesn't come back the old fashioned way. Who even fires the king? The brits, that's who. God damned manners. Now it turns out ye olde rifle is too rude a way to dispose of bad monarchs. Bloody snobs with their posh customs.

Jokes aside I am glad you're doing better than I suspected. But I still gotta say, trusting the media for checks and balances is nowhere nesr enough surveillance. But maybe my original assessment that spain is just lucky "slow boiling" simply doesn't happen over here in clown land for some reason might be truer than I gave it credit for. Weird. I wonder why that is.

 

[JosephStalin]

One re China.

Let's see how this one plays out. Americans can get forgetful, in time.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/americans-are-giving-made-in-china-the-cold-shoulder/ar-BB14cN3P?li=BBnbfcL

https://archive.vn/3gcQj

This guy's a dumbfuck. If he had actually undergone open-heart surgery he wouldn't talk such shit.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/post-coronavirus-travel-will-be-as-enjoyable-as-open-heart-surgery-dubai-airports-ceo-says/ar-BB14d2if?li=BBnb7Kz

https://archive.vn/ctUFP

Something on the crazy bitch masquerading as Los Angeles County's "health director". She's playing with fire...

Woman Dictating LA County Shutdowns Isn't a Medical Doctor, Paid More than $500K

Los Angeles County Public Health Director Barbara Ferrer takes questions at a news conference in Los Angeles Thursday, Mar. 12, 2020. The California Department of Public Health advisory says gatherings of 250 people or more should be postponed or canceled, and gatherings of people at higher risk...

www.redstate.com

Woman Dictating LA County Shutdowns Isn't a Medical Doctor, Paid More…

archived 15 May 2020 01:54:22 UTC

archive.vn

 

[FatalTater]

where we fail is the same places everyone has - this slow creep, the slow changing of goalposts and slow slide towards the bottom. We see it everywhere. But it’s happened because people are comfortable. People go on about 1984 but the better comparison is brave new world. It’s not a jackboot on our necks, because if you repress and push people enough they will push back. It’s the tyranny of comfort. If people are comfy, fat, and stupified by social media, shit TV etc, they just can’t be arsed rebelling. Bread and circuses.
Once you start removing that comfort, you have problems. If the soma, TV, shiny gadgets stop flowing and if people can’t feed their families - that’s when people will revolt.

I have been saying this for YEARS now. Aldous Huxley knew what was up.

 

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Why is staying at home for a few weeks such a problem?

Because bills do not stop just because the little hitlers decided to declare we all had to stay home and shut our economy down for their virtue signaling and panic pandering.

Rent, Food, and Utilities cost money. People who aren't working aren't getting money. Stores are still required to pay back loans and pay rent. Stores that are not open are not making income.

The world isn't just sitting and waiting for us to all come out of our coof bunkers.

Why is it that all of a sudden everyone has a raging urge to travel when they barely left their municipality before? Strict quarantine laws worked for the countries that implemented them.

This isn't about travel. This is about being able to go to work. This is about being able to run your business. This is about being able to afford food, electricity, rent, mortgages. This is about being able to process food so that in August we don't all suddenly discover there was a good fucking reason we didn't do this for any goddamned pandemic in history.

And no, the "strict quarantine laws" didn't work for the other countries. It's just that other countries aren't blatantly inflating their numbers like the US is. They want you to be scared. Ask yourself why.

And you know what, it wouldn't matter if the quarantines did work. My civil rights don't end because some illiterate fucking chink coughed while eating a raw bat asshole souffle in a shithole somewhere. If I want to take the risk of going outside in this mess, if I want to take the risk of going to a movie or to the local burger joint, that's my right to free assembly. If you don't want to risk getting sick, it's YOUR right to free assembly to stay home.

I feel so fucking annoyed at the general disregard the representatives of some countries are showing. You can't just say "the number of infected is starting to drop so we're just gonna open everything up again without any consequences and pretend like nothing major happened", then act surprised when the number of cases skyrockets again.

Just stay home until it blows over, please.

Define "blows over" in relevance to an endemic illness that will be with us for the rest of our lives?

There are already hundreds of strains of this out there in the wild.

There's not going to be a vaccine.

The assholes telling you to "just wait for a cure" are literally just trying to keep people from rioting.

I know image macros are less than favored, but you are literally this fucking meme.

 

[Mrs. Addams]

Why is staying at home for a few weeks such a problem? Why is it that all of a sudden everyone has a raging urge to travel when they barely left their municipality before? Strict quarantine laws worked for the countries that implemented them. I feel so fucking annoyed at the general disregard the representatives of some countries are showing. You can't just say "the number of infected is starting to drop so we're just gonna open everything up again without any consequences and pretend like nothing major happened", then act surprised when the number of cases skyrockets again.

Spoiler: Powerlevel

My country borders a hotspot. When shit hit the fan, we closed everything down within a week and stayed at home for 8 weeks. Some people protested the stay at home order, but a great majority were smart enough to stay fucking home. It's a small country, but I have to emphasise the outbreak lasted only 2 months, only 1.5k people were infected and only 100 of them died. We're currently reopening schools for hs graduates and children under the age of 10, also public libraries and bars/restaurants.

Just stay home until it blows over, please.

Restaurants, salons, and shops in my town, that have taken decades to build, are going out of business, people are moving because they can't afford their apartments anymore (some lost their jobs with no promise of getting them back + some can't get through to unemployment for the promised benefits), 30% of my County is sitting on a tushy unemployment watching the world economy go down the drain, food banks are maxed out, mental health is in the toilet, children are having nightmares about their family and friends dying, college finances are toast as they try to figure out how to bring the fall semester online, and the WHO, the government, and the CDC are issuing conflicting information about what is and isn't safe, while ticketing confused people who try to go to the beach, and the newspapers can't stop fearmongering, and they can't seem to ramp up testing to the point where it means anything or get sufficient staff in the nursing homes. And this has been going on for over 8 weeks and they just extended our closures till the end of July. Oh, and we haven't starved the virus to death for lack of hosts in those 8 weeks - why would another 8 weeks changes that? It would take years to handle this issue this way and by then there'd be no businesses left except Walmart.

And for the majority of us, the risk of death is less than 1%. I'm still maintaining a basic level of caution because I live with old people, but in general, I'm done caring. If we trusted our government more, or believed they had an actual path through this, it might be a different story, but right now we're stuck in a dark, dystopian tunnel with no plan out and that makes people reckless.

 

[Gorilla Tessellator]

Most people can't afford to stay home for prolonged periods. The government can't afford to pay them to stay at home for long periods. The only people who can really afford this for any length of time are the terminally unemployed, unfireable government employees, the idle rich, and prepper lunatics like me.

You forgot about a sizable group of people whose work can be done online, and this includes software developers, all kinds of writers, translators etc.

 

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Why is staying at home for a few weeks such a problem?

I dunno, how about you stop eating for a few weeks and tell us how it goes.

 

[2021Murder]

I have been saying this for YEARS now. Aldous Huxley knew what was up.

Its nice people are starting to see this. A big reason people like 1984 is that its evil government is very right leaning "all work no fun, always keep watch" so entertainmenters and pop culture were always preaching it. The problem is its absurdly unrealistic and is as good of a story as fucking Rise of Skywalker

Meanwhile Huxley a teacher, labourer, factory worker and layabout who also happened to have taught the autist that wrote 1984, had a pretty great understanding of how to keep people in line and what makes people tick. According to mr.1984, everyone talks about politics and theory and was about following the rules and keeping the boss's favor. But Huxley knew most people just talked about films or trying to get laid or other frivolous things and even during the worst times with the most suffering, they typically didnt fuss over things they felt they had no control over.

Of course making a world where pop culture, degeneracy, and modern society is evil would never truely be preached by the (((entertainment industry))) but with how disconnected people are from it we can start seeing how much better and more relatable brave new world is. Even the concept of the benevolent captains of industry, like how redditors see bezos, musk, and gates can be traced back to what Huxley saw in the US with the treatment of Ford, among others

 

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You forgot about a sizable group of people whose work can be done online, and this includes software developers, all kinds of writers, translators etc.

They're collapsing too, just slower.

I mostly telecommute. Now exclusively, unless something needs swapped on a rack or what have you. My clients are keeping me and my company employed... but we're starting to shudder from this, too. A few clients have asked to renegotiate contracts, and a few have tried to tell us without spelling it outright that we're likely going to lose them because they just can't afford us anymore. Those that are staying are hinting strongly they need to negotiate lower prices or lower services or preferably, both.

It's all giant machine, and it's bleeding to death. Some parts stopped immediately, like the retail jobs and service industry jobs. Turns out that outsourcing everything fucking else was a real galaxy brain take, damned globalist fucksticks. But other parts of the machine are still slowing to a crawl. Yeah, IT, software developers, journo-bloggers, they can all work from home... until no one buys the products they're working on, or buys products at all, meaning no advertisement revenue, causing mass layoffs if not outright shutdowns.

And I still have a horrible suspicion that in 1-3 months we're going to start seeing food shortages. Actual shortages, not "panicking Karens bought up all the rice again" shortages. Yeah, I know, we keep hearing the farms are fine. But there's too many people that are trying very hard to dance around talking about things in that sector. Something is up. Costco saying we'll be fine... as long as we're "open minded" with what food we'll be willing to eat. Tyson openly sending up flares and red flags because shit's broke fam. A few people have suggested it's cause all the "migrant workers" from Mexico fled and aren't coming back, which it turns out was another bad globalist idea to get our country addicted to.

But I think that once we start seeing something fucking big collapse, like Disney or some big journalist outlet... something that's a common household name, then you'll start to see some real panic.

Maybe we'll start to see the bloggosphere start to believe in liberalism again once the mass layoffs hit Google, Buzzfeed, The Guardian, etc etc. When suddenly those fuckers are needing to learn to code -- whoops, sorry, 30 million people are ahead of you in line, good luck -- then this whole lockdown thing will be decidedly less fun.

Especially if they say no more money printer go brrrr, instead, sign up for food stamps, hope you like government cheese. Nope, it's not organic or free range or even GMO free, but it's literally all you have to eat. Make sure it last a week or two, because you aren't getting any more.

 

[Cast Iron Pan]

Michigan lieutenant governor to join Sen. Kamala Harris in coronavirus town hall

The town hall is scheduled for 6 p.m. Monday, May 18, 2020.

www.mlive.com

Michigan Lt. Gov. Garlin Gilchrist will join U.S. Sen. Kamala Harris and others in a virtual town hall Monday, May 18, to discuss stimulus funding for communities hardest hit by the COVID-19 pandemic.

“The health and well being of black communities have long been harmed by under-investment in essential programs and resources that people rely on for their health and safety," Rooks said in a prepared statement. "The groups and services in communities that help people meet their core needs must receive state and federal support to reduce the harm of this pandemic and ensure healthy communities.”

To watch the town hall, register for the Zoom conference, here.

 

[Gorilla Tessellator]

They're collapsing too, just slower.

I mostly telecommute. Now exclusively, unless something needs swapped on a rack or what have you. My clients are keeping me and my company employed... but we're starting to shudder from this, too. A few clients have asked to renegotiate contracts, and a few have tried to tell us without spelling it outright that we're likely going to lose them because they just can't afford us anymore. Those that are staying are hinting strongly they need to negotiate lower prices or lower services or preferably, both.

It's all giant machine, and it's bleeding to death. Some parts stopped immediately, like the retail jobs and service industry jobs. Turns out that outsourcing everything fucking else was a real galaxy brain take, damned globalist fucksticks. But other parts of the machine are still slowing to a crawl. Yeah, IT, software developers, journo-bloggers, they can all work from home... until no one buys the products they're working on, or buys products at all, meaning no advertisement revenue, causing mass layoffs if not outright shutdowns.

And I still have a horrible suspicion that in 1-3 months we're going to start seeing food shortages. Actual shortages, not "panicking Karens bought up all the rice again" shortages. Yeah, I know, we keep hearing the farms are fine. But there's too many people that are trying very hard to dance around talking about things in that sector. Something is up. Costco saying we'll be fine... as long as we're "open minded" with what food we'll be willing to eat. Tyson openly sending up flares and red flags because shit's broke fam. A few people have suggested it's cause all the "migrant workers" from Mexico fled and aren't coming back, which it turns out was another bad globalist idea to get our country addicted to.

But I think that once we start seeing something fucking big collapse, like Disney or some big journalist outlet... something that's a common household name, then you'll start to see some real panic.

Maybe we'll start to see the bloggosphere start to believe in liberalism again once the mass layoffs hit Google, Buzzfeed, The Guardian, etc etc. When suddenly those fuckers are needing to learn to code -- whoops, sorry, 30 million people are ahead of you in line, good luck -- then this whole lockdown thing will be decidedly less fun.

Especially if they say no more money printer go brrrr, instead, sign up for food stamps, hope you like government cheese. Nope, it's not organic or free range or even GMO free, but it's literally all you have to eat. Make sure it last a week or two, because you aren't getting any more.

tbh I am also afraid of economic damage, and I'm not sure if my company will survive beyond 2021.
I was never particularly afraid of virus, but the economic carnage that is happening and seemingly unlimited printing is definitely scary.

I saw the other day that because the processing plants are not working, they kill hundreds of healthy pigs. Corn prices are dangerously too low, and the farmers have not enough money.

 

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Michigan lieutenant governor to join Sen. Kamala Harris in coronavirus town hall

The town hall is scheduled for 6 p.m. Monday, May 18, 2020.

www.mlive.com

Michigan Lt. Gov. Garlin Gilchrist will join U.S. Sen. Kamala Harris and others in a virtual town hall Monday, May 18, to discuss stimulus funding for communities hardest hit by the COVID-19 pandemic.

“The health and well being of black communities have long been harmed by under-investment in essential programs and resources that people rely on for their health and safety," Rooks said in a prepared statement. "The groups and services in communities that help people meet their core needs must receive state and federal support to reduce the harm of this pandemic and ensure healthy communities.”

To watch the town hall, register for the Zoom conference, here.

aka "TrumpBux is making Trump popular amongst our pet darkies, quick, get everyone together and remind them why they stay on the plantation! Money Printer go AWWW SHEEEET NIGGA"

tbh I am also afraid of economic damage, and I'm not sure if my company will survive beyond 2021.
I was never particularly afraid of virus, but the economic carnage that is happening and seemingly unlimited printing is definitely scary.

I saw the other day that because the processing plants are not working, they kill hundreds of healthy pigs. Corn prices are dangerously too low, and the farmers have not enough money.

Someone else pointed out that a LOT of other countries are reliant on the US creating food and shipping it to them in trade. If the US is shut down, those countries are going to be ... desperate. Desperate and angry.

Desperate, angry, and starving. With leaders even more desperate to find scapegoats.

Fortunately one of those countries is China.

 

[Otterly]

And I still have a horrible suspicion that in 1-3 months we're going to start seeing food shortages.

I think so too. I would encourage anyone with a garden to plant a small veggie garden. Even a balcony can have containers and pots. You aren’t going to be totally or even halfway self sufficient but it may help. We live on the outskirts of a city and we know a couple of arable farmers. They are all quietly saying to people they know that there are going to be shortages this autumn. We usually get plane loads of Eastern European labour to get the harvests in and they aren’t coming. There’s going to be a significant hike in prices.

stock up. Stock your freezers, get a few plants going where you can. Food is going to get significantly more expensive, especially in areas where it’s imported.

 

[MediocreMilt]

A big reason people like 1984 is that its evil government is very right leaning "all work no fun, always keep watch" so entertainmenters and pop culture were always preaching it. The problem is its absurdly unrealistic and is as good of a story as fucking Rise of Skywalker

I'd love to know what novel people who think that were reading, because 1984 is literally Orwell's anxieties that his preferred Socialist reforms would turn totalitarian put to page.

 

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I think so too. I would encourage anyone with a garden to plant a small veggie garden. Even a balcony can have containers and pots. You aren’t going to be totally or even halfway self sufficient but it may help. We live on the outskirts of a city and we know a couple of arable farmers. They are all quietly saying to people they know that there are going to be shortages this autumn. We usually get plane loads of Eastern European labour to get the harvests in and they aren’t coming. There’s going to be a significant hike in prices.

stock up. Stock your freezers, get a few plants going where you can. Food is going to get significantly more expensive, especially in areas where it’s imported.

I wouldn't wish any of these problems on anyone...

But it should be interesting to watch the hipster douchefucks in California and New York suddenly discover Kale and Quinoa isn't delivered to Whole Foods from the Free Shit Fairy.

EDIT: Actually fuck KAle and Quinoa.... COFFEE. What are these fucks going to do when Starbucks can't get their beans in?! And the Soy / Almond milk, and...


For those prepper / gardener types, what should be prioritized in a victory garden? I mean, for those who are limited to containers and pots, or those who have a small backyard, or even those who have like an acre of land they can re-purpose in a hurry?

Someone linked this in here or on twitter, forget where: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B086SMRNYY

He seems a bit odd, but I do like the use of 1950s clipart.

 

[Shroom King]

Why is staying at home for a few weeks such a problem? Why is it that all of a sudden everyone has a raging urge to travel when they barely left their municipality before? Strict quarantine laws worked for the countries that implemented them. I feel so fucking annoyed at the general disregard the representatives of some countries are showing. You can't just say "the number of infected is starting to drop so we're just gonna open everything up again without any consequences and pretend like nothing major happened", then act surprised when the number of cases skyrockets again.

Spoiler: Powerlevel

My country borders a hotspot. When shit hit the fan, we closed everything down within a week and stayed at home for 8 weeks. Some people protested the stay at home order, but a great majority were smart enough to stay fucking home. It's a small country, but I have to emphasise the outbreak lasted only 2 months, only 1.5k people were infected and only 100 of them died. We're currently reopening schools for hs graduates and children under the age of 10, also public libraries and bars/restaurants.

Just stay home until it blows over, please.

Denmark has a homogenous population and a strong nationalist culture and doesn't fuck goats or eat raw bats. That might have something to do with your success.

 

[Otterly]

For those prepper / gardener types, what should be prioritized in a victory garden? I mean, for those who are limited to containers and pots, or those who have a small backyard, or even those who have like an acre of land they can re-purpose in a hurry?

If you’ve got a windowledge, then something like chard, or micro greens. You can get hydroponic type set ups that fit window ledges.
If youve got a balcony, I’d get a few of the potato bag things and grow potatoes. Another one with carrots, then a few pots of tomatoes, some greens (Swiss chard is easy) and a couple of pots with a tripod of canes to grow beans up. Grow upwards, you can stack things, or grow things up canes and supports.
If you’ve got actual land then you can grow whatever thrives in your climate. Where I am the growing season is short, but broccoli, beans, greens/lettuce, cabbages, cauliflowers, leeks, rhubarb, etc all do well. We can’t grow anything exotic.
Put a couple of fruit trees in - they won’t do much in the first year but from year 2-3 on you’ll be surprised how much you can yield.

We probably aren’t going full mad max and living off dog food, but I think veg and fruit is going to get more expensive, so if there’s something you’re a fan of, stock up, or grow it, or both.

 

[Barnard]

Food issues, eh? How would you rate a diet of buckwheat, potatoes, cabbage, pork rinds, sausage and mushrooms on a scale from 1 to awesome?

 

[Shroom King]

For those prepper / gardener types, what should be prioritized in a victory garden? I mean, for those who are limited to containers and pots, or those who have a small backyard, or even those who have like an acre of land they can re-purpose in a hurry?

I suck ass at gardening, yet I grew a lot more potatoes than I knew what to do with last year. Cucumber is piss easy to grow too, and healthy for you.