Social Justice Warriors - Now With Less Feminism Sperging

[Corn Flakes]

That's nonsense though. Race is the group differences between population groups that have been historically isolated for tens of thousands of years.

I mean I'm no white nationalist, but you can just look at someone of another race and see that it's not just down to skin color. You can identify someone's race (or if they're multiracial) with very good accuracy through genetic testing.

It doesn't matter anyway. Human "races" aren't like D&D races. No race gets a definite, natural bonus to anything. Blacks don't get +2 to CON, East Asians don't get +2 to INT, Whites don't get a +2 to PRI(vilege).

There are statistical tendencies with regards to some physical quirks related to their environment (such as Subsaharan African populations being on average able to achieve more muscle strength with less muscle volume, while at the same time being vulnerable to sickle cell anaemia), but even within those groups you get a lot of outliers. There are dozens of genetically different ethnic groups in Subsaharan Africa alone, after all. They all look more or less the same to an outsider and get lumped under a single "race".

What really matter are differences in mental capacity, which are well within the error margins of any serious study on the subject. And in a place like America where you're almost guaranteed to have some mixed heritage, all this stuff is bunk. Your economic status and your parents' attitudes towards education have a much higher influence in how intelligent or successful in life you are than your "race".

 

[Linako 2.0]

It doesn't matter anyway. Human "races" aren't like D&D races. No race gets a definite, natural bonus to anything. Blacks don't get +2 to CON, East Asians don't get +2 to INT, Whites don't get a +2 to PRI(vilege).

Pahjeets have a natural immunity to Nausea effects though.
remember that time they were attacked with some kind of chemical weapon but came out unfazed due to genreations of exposing themselves to shit?

 

[Dante Alighieri]

Pahjeets have a natural immunity to Nausea effects though.
remember that time they were attacked with some kind of chemical weapon but came out unfazed due to genreations of exposing themselves to shit?

All the fastest sprinters are Black too.

 

[TerribleIdeas™]

That's nonsense though. Race is the group differences between population groups that have been historically isolated for tens of thousands of years.

I mean I'm no white nationalist, but you can just look at someone of another race and see that it's not just down to skin color. You can identify someone's race (or if they're multiracial) with very good accuracy through genetic testing.

Race is simply the shorthand term that was developed to describe ancestry.

 

[Judge Holden]

What really matter are differences in mental capacity, which are well within the error margins of any serious study on the subject. And in a place like America where you're almost guaranteed to have some mixed heritage, all this stuff is bunk. Your economic status and your parents' attitudes towards education have a much higher influence in how intelligent or successful in life you are than your "race".

There is also the factor of how much nasty shit your were exposed to in the womb, be it alcohol or meth or lead in the water or any number of industrial pollutants, which on average tends to be a hell of a lot higher for poorfag demographics from white trash to joggrican american. How much nutrition you got while in the womb and early childhood is also of major influence on intelligence averages

As for the "different lifestyles over history led to racial differences" argument, its kinda moot given how until the industrial revolution everybody on the planet had been effectively in the exact same "advancement tier" for a million or so years, and only in the past few millenia had there been any real divergence between hunter-gatherer societies and farming societies. For pretty much all of that time until the 18th/19th century, there was little difference in the practical skillset and knowhow between chinese peasant farmers to russian serfs to mayan corn harvesters to malian cattle ranchers, and even the remaining hunter-gatherer tribes had to still learn a complex survival skillset that was atleast equal to farm fuckery in difficulty, so the idea that the average euronig peasant would have magically acquired some vast genetic power-up over two hundred years compared to everyone else just doesnt hold water.

This is the fundamental issue with most "race realist" schtick regarding intelligence. You have to create a legitimate explanation why intelligence and problem solving ability would somehow dramatically accelerate in one subset of humanity over an insanely short space and not the rest of the species despite how much of a beneficial trait it would be for every group on the planet

 

[Zap Rowsdower]

It doesn't matter anyway. Human "races" aren't like D&D races. No race gets a definite, natural bonus to anything. Blacks don't get +2 to CON, East Asians don't get +2 to INT, Whites don't get a +2 to PRI(vilege).

There are statistical tendencies with regards to some physical quirks related to their environment (such as Subsaharan African populations being on average able to achieve more muscle strength with less muscle volume, while at the same time being vulnerable to sickle cell anaemia), but even within those groups you get a lot of outliers. There are dozens of genetically different ethnic groups in Subsaharan Africa alone, after all. They all look more or less the same to an outsider and get lumped under a single "race".

What really matter are differences in mental capacity, which are well within the error margins of any serious study on the subject. And in a place like America where you're almost guaranteed to have some mixed heritage, all this stuff is bunk. Your economic status and your parents' attitudes towards education have a much higher influence in how intelligent or successful in life you are than your "race".

And the same side that tells you that races are inherently superior (privileged) or inferior (victims) will tell you men and women are the same, except when they aren't.

 

[Corn Flakes]

And the same side that tells you that races are inherently superior (privileged) or inferior (victims) will tell you men and women are the same, except when they aren't.

Men and women may be the same, but a man pretending to be a woman (and vice-versa) is better than both!

 

[Private Pyle]

Btw, some SJW fun from TV Tropes regarding gay rights in politics (and why they view Democrats as the only correct party):

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13103447000A18674100&page=12585

"They support LGBT rights because of the activists and pushes on the ground. Support in political parties is bottom up.

The current nominee has stated trans rights are the civil rights struggle of our time. This is a good thing, and people should push to make sure Biden doesn't backslide on it. Biden went from a DOMA supporter to the guy who pushed the Obama admin into publicly supporting gay marriage."

Though one takes queer rights very seriously to the point that the poster actually came out to critique the Democrate:

"Look. I know you all mean the best. But you have to understand - this is both extremely personal and extremely important. My background in politics is seeing the Democratic Party - the supposed "Only one of the two parties to support queer folks" - fail us again and again. I'm very, very, very tired of being told that since the Dems are better than the Republicans, "who else" and all, that we should just be happy. NO. I've seen politicians bargan away our rights for buisiness opportunities, activists ignored or mocked, and idealized "safe" queerness championed while gender non-conforming or more radical queer folks mocked and ignored even by democrats. We get ignored most of the time, and when we do get noticed more often than not its in a token way. Our issues get passed over, or mocked as just "culture war stuff". Even some politicians who find our struggle important often aren't willing to take the necessary measures to help all of us, just the most visible.

So, like, please, when someone comes with concerns with how the Democratic party treats queer minorities, whether on an individual basis or as a collective, please do not try to brush it off or claim that it will right itself. Because it doesn't, and it won't, and there's no garuntee those activists on the ground will be listened to. And the Transphobia of our leaders should not be ignored, even if they do have a 'D' next to their name."

Remember when one of Democratic nominees for the US presidency was a gay man and people tore him down for not being the “right” kind of LGBT individual to represent them?
It astounds me how people can right sob stories like this and go crabs in a bucket mode when someone from their side gets into power. These people are so full of shit.

(also really? Trans rights are the civil rights of our time? What does that even mean?)

 

[AnOminous]

Remember when one of Democratic nominees for the US presidency was a gay man and people tore him down for not being the “right” kind of LGBT individual to represent them?

There were a number of reasons not to take Buttigieg seriously, among them that his executive background was being mayor of a pretty insignificant mid-sized city. That he didn't attend pride parades in chaps with his ass in the breeze waving around rainbow colored dildos was not one of them to anyone sane, though.

 

[Shaka Brah]

This is the fundamental issue with most "race realist" schtick regarding intelligence. You have to create a legitimate explanation why intelligence and problem solving ability would somehow dramatically accelerate in one subset of humanity over an insanely short space and not the rest of the species despite how much of a beneficial trait it would be for every group on the planet

It's generally well-known among population geneticists that a low time preference and a higher level of critical thinking skills are necessary to survive at high latitudes where the weather is predictably harsh.

 

[Judge Holden]

It's generally well-known among population geneticists that a low time preference and a higher level of critical thinking skills are necessary to survive at high latitudes where the weather is predictably harsh.

Pretty sure that lower latitude areas of the planet enjoy its own share predictably harsh weather what with the flaming sky orb on max setting 24/7, not to mention a whole bunch of other predictable environmental stressors from flora to fauna to geology that make "remember this shit is dangerous" skills necessary to survive and thrive.

The only thing that predictable higher latitude weather patterns would impact would be the farming culture of these regions and from there time management culture, and in either case this is not being passed down genetically unless there is an ultra specific "awareness of the effects changing seasons have on crops" gene I have yet to hear about.

Hell, pretty much all the bigass issues facing third world societies can be traced back to ancient cultural standards and practices running headfirst into modern day advancements and subsequently causing the host culture to violently short circuit and shit itself to death in the same way a medieval peasant village would after being introduced to cheap mcdonalds, smartphones, and meth

 

[Shaka Brah]

Pretty sure that lower latitude areas of the planet enjoy its own share predictably harsh weather what with the flaming sky orb on max setting 24/7, not to mention a whole bunch of other predictable environmental stressors from flora to fauna to geology that make "remember this shit is dangerous" skills necessary to survive and thrive.

The only thing that predictable higher latitude weather patterns would impact would be the farming culture of these regions and from there time management culture, and in either case this is not being passed down genetically unless there is an ultra specific "awareness of the effects changing seasons have on crops" gene I have yet to hear about.

Hell, pretty much all the bigass issues facing third world societies can be traced back to ancient cultural standards and practices running headfirst into modern day advancements and subsequently causing the host culture to violently short circuit and shit itself to death in the same way a medieval peasant village would after being introduced to cheap mcdonalds, smartphones, and meth

Time preference and the ability to deal with delayed gratification has a known genetic component. We even know the primary pathway where it manifests, in the so-called "Warrior Gene" producing Monoamine Oxidase A, which regulates the level of dopamine and serotonin in the brain.

People with more copies of the gene have an easier time controlling their emotions and delaying gratification, leading to a lower time preference and dramatically reduced aggression and incarceration. Those will fewer copies are dramatically more aggressive, more present in the prison population, and have a far harder time delaying gratification.

Not coincidentally, the low-count ethnic groups are all from the southern hemisphere. Namely Subsaharan Africans, South American Indians, and Australian Aborigines.

 

[Judge Holden]

Time preference and the ability to deal with delayed gratification has a known genetic component. We even know the primary pathway where it manifests, in the so-called "Warrior Gene" producing Monoamine Oxidase A, which regulates the level of dopamine and serotonin in the brain.

People with more copies of the gene have an easier time controlling their emotions and delaying gratification, leading to a lower time preference and dramatically reduced aggression and incarceration. Those will fewer copies are dramatically more aggressive, more present in the prison population, and have a far harder time delaying gratification.

Not coincidentally, the low-count ethnic groups are all from the southern hemisphere. Namely Subsaharan Africans, South American Indians, and Australian Aborigines.

Assuming im looking at the same study(s) you are, with the MAO-A 3R gene, the chinese and taiwanese have near identical rates as joggers and maori if not more, which in and of itself makes sense considering that for this mutation of the gene to be more widespread in these populations it would logically be due to direct ancestry which fits the pattern of human migration from africa to asia and from there the americas/polynesia. As for 2R the one ethnic comparison study I found using a couple hundred people suggesting abnormally higher rates in african american participents compared to white americans and asian americans indicated it in 5% of joggros, 1% of euros, and .00000something% of asians, which may superficially correlate with the prison population percentages of each group, but unless effectively everyone who has this gene is automatically an imprisoned felon and everyone else is an upstanding member of society then its correlation kinda ends there as a direct causal link.

Either way it still runs in to what I mentioned earlier. If the slight statistical loads these genes have on possible behaviours is great enough to have a tangible effect in and of themselves, then either it would have put populations who carry this gene at such a long term disadvantage compared to their neighbours that they would have steadily faded away and be replaced by less disadvantaged neighbour over the past few dozen millennia, or it would have advantaged them enough for it to spread a hell of a lot more in local populations and thus make the rate of the gene far higher worldwide given how it would have followed more groups migrating from africa.

Hell come to think of it, this is pretty much evolution 101.

If a genetic change/mutation has even a small advantage compared to others in the species, then over time it will become far more widespread as those with the gene live longer to shit out more kids over the generations.

If it has a major or minor disadvantage compared to others in the species then it will almost certainly wind up not being passed on long term due to competition over generations with those without this handicap.

If it doesnt really affect anything one way or another then it may well keep existing indefinitely in a subset of a population unless that subset either dies out for unrelated reasons or becomes the dominant subset in its environment and thus winds up making this divergence the new norm.

And before anyone says that extra aggression and less patience would be an advantage in hunting or tribal warfare in sub saharan africa, keep in mind that trying to punch lions in the face in autistic rage or being easily provoked into other life threatening actions is not exactly behaviour thats conductive to living a long life and fathering the next generation, no matter what part of the third world you find yourself in

 

[Solar plexus clown glider]

(Not sure if this belongs in random tumblr posts or here)

Spoiler: E-begging, long

Looks like fairly standard Ebegging from someone in a fucked up situation until you realize the self medication they mention is heroin. Their parents are controlling their money so they stop shooting up in the house.

Source:

 

[Shaka Brah]

And before anyone says that extra aggression and less patience would be an advantage in hunting or tribal warfare in sub saharan africa, keep in mind that trying to punch lions in the face in autistic rage or being easily provoked into other life threatening actions is not exactly behaviour thats conductive to living a long life and fathering the next generation, no matter what part of the third world you find yourself in

If a strawman like that is enough to convince you evolutionary niches don't exist then I shouldn't have bothered.

 

[Judge Holden]

If a strawman like that is enough to convince you evolutionary niches don't exist then I shouldn't have bothered.

Ok I apologise for my use of mild hyperbole in suggesting a hypothetical genetically predisposition to be dumb and violent is somewhat of a disadvantage in prehistorical societies.

Can you kindly furnish me with the evolutionary niche an inherent lack of critical thinking and significantly increased violent impulse fills and a reason why it was not removed from the gene pool after a couple generations of competition with those without this predisposition like pretty much every universally detrimental mutation imaginable?

I mean sickle cell shit comes with the tradeoff of maleria resistance so is there some long term advantage or resistance to negative environmental factors that comes with being dumb and violent?

And also im kinda curious why despite it being such an advantage for a solid million years in joggerland, it only pops up in about 5% of joggrican americans....wouldnt it be like in all of them by the time the slave trade got going?

 

[Dante Alighieri]

Can you kindly furnish me with the evolutionary niche an inherent lack of critical thinking and significantly increased violent impulse fills and a reason why it was not removed from the gene pool after a couple generations of competition with those without this predisposition like pretty much every universally detrimental mutation imaginable?

Soldier class. Who else is going to go to war?

 

[Shaka Brah]

Ok I apologise for my use of mild hyperbole in suggesting a hypothetical genetically predisposition to be dumb and violent is somewhat of a disadvantage in prehistorical societies.

Can you kindly furnish me with the evolutionary niche an inherent lack of critical thinking and significantly increased violent impulse fills and a reason why it was not removed from the gene pool after a couple generations of competition with those without this predisposition like pretty much every universally detrimental mutation imaginable?

I mean sickle cell shit comes with the tradeoff of maleria resistance so is there some long term advantage or resistance to negative environmental factors that comes with being dumb and violent?

And also im kinda curious why despite it being such an advantage for a solid million years in joggerland, it only pops up in about 5% of joggrican americans....wouldnt it be like in all of them by the time the slave trade got going?

The answer is that the extreme lack of expression is not extremely prevalent because it -is- a disadvantage in stable times, but the level of MAOA gene activations that's considered "normal" among subsaharans is lower than that of any other race. Increased activation was highly selected for in Europe and Asia, not so much in Subsaharan Africa, where the dominant Bantu-speaking population achieved its prominence through warfare and subjugation in the historically recent past. This is a circumstance where having 5% (or higher in some areas) of your population with high aggression is a huge boon over your neighbors.

The base-line level of MAOA gene activation in "jogger-americans" is, when seen at a similar level in whites, correlated with higher crime rates in those whites than the rest of the white population with a higher level of expression. So obviously there is a difference in behavior that this expression elicits even though it isn't as damaging as the 5% who have the extremely maladjusted version of that gene expression.

And I shouldn't have to tell you how large a group 5% represents when the population is in the tens of millions.

Edit: One of the most important things you should take away from this is that the phenomenon of genetics influencing behavior among human subspecies exists. Whatever it was that selected for these differences, they can be clearly quantified on the genetic level and their outcomes charted on the sociological level and so we have to at least acknowledge them.

 

[TowinKarz]

There were a number of reasons not to take Buttigieg seriously, among them that his executive background was being mayor of a pretty insignificant mid-sized city. That he didn't attend pride parades in chaps with his ass in the breeze waving around rainbow colored dildos was not one of them to anyone sane, though.

He was the wrong kind of gay, he wasn't flamboyant and in-your-face annoying enough. If you aren't making the straights uncomfortable by parading your boy toy around the halls of Congress on a leash, then how can we be sure you're REALLY fighting for us?

 

[Whatsup bud?]

He was the wrong kind of gay, he wasn't flamboyant and in-your-face annoying enough. If you aren't making the straights uncomfortable by parading your boy toy around the halls of Congress on a leash, then how can we be sure you're REALLY fighting for us?

Remember when gays just wanted to be seen as the same as everyone else? I do. Now that they've had that for a while they need something else to fight for or to separate themselves. This goes for old queers who don't know anything but fighting and young ones who want to seem special. Personally I'm very satisfied with the way things are.