MrJokerRager
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Im just realized the BAR could be legal for sale in California if they sold it with a 10 round magazine as it already has no pistol grip and could be set to semi auto.
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I believe Ohio Ordnance makes a CA compliant model of their M1918A3 semi-auto BAR. But, it ain't cheap. It's about $4500, which is what's kept me from getting one. I've spent big money on firearms before, but something like a semi-auto BAR would be more of a range toy for me, and I just can't justify that kind of money on a range toy at this stage in my life.
Edit: I recently came across what I think would be one of the funnest guns to have just as a range toy. Is the Freedom Ordnance FM-9. It's a belt-fed 9mm AR upper, similar to the ARES Shrike/Fightlite MCR.
I've got two stripped AR lowers that I need to build up: one for me and one for Little Dude. I'll probably buy a third for Baby Dude eventually, but that's several years down the road. I've got a few gun projects to complete first, but when they're done Little Dude and I are going to build ours together. I'm going to let Little Dude pick out everything for his build so it's exactly how he wants it. He's already off to a good start since he chose a Seekins Precision billet lower for his build.
As for my build, I always intended to build mine as more of a range toy since I'm good on serious "life and liberty" rifles, but I'll build it with quality parts in case something really bad happened and I needed to arm the wife or something. I'll get a decent, simple 5.5.56x45mm upper for it, but I always planned on putting a Fostech Echo trigger in it, and I think that would go nicely with the FM-9 upper. Basically a poor man's submachine gun.
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Aero Precision's camouflage of the month is Rhodesian brushstroke or it was cause they were sold out in about 30 minutes. All they got left are 9' AR15 and 15' AR10, it was worth it though.
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I’ve fallen in love with this 20 gauge mossberg 500 that I picked up cheap at a pawn shop. It needed some cleaning and has a few scratches in the chamber and stock but it operates pretty smoothly. I’m thinking about using it next season because I wanna try something other than my .308.
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That's one of the nice things about Mossberg: they can take a lot of abuse and keep running. They can feel a little loose and "rattle-trap", but so do AKs.
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The BAR fires from an open bolt, you'd have to turn it into a closed bolt to be legal anywhere in the US as something other than a machine gun.
I'm not sure what your budget is but if you're trying to keep it in the $300 range the Ruger Security 9 Compact would meet your needs and likely has better build quality than the Taurus.
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The semi auto units from Ohio Ordnance fire from a closed bolt. I almost talked myself into an HCAR, but that's a lot of money for a 12 pound carbine.
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My only gun right now is a Mossberg 464 lever action (.30-30). Looking back, if I wanted a lever gun, I should have gone for something that can also accept handgun calibers (although, I'm sure I could find a .30-30 revolver if I look hard enough).
The main complaint other owners have is its grip safety. First of all because it's redundant (there is already a tang safety that prevents the hammer from striking the firing pin) and secondly, you need to grip the lever pretty hard to disengage it which can throw off your aim. There is a video on how to get rid of it fairly easily. https://youtu.be/fEqwDY2vXuo
The main complaint other owners have is its grip safety. First of all because it's redundant (there is already a tang safety that prevents the hammer from striking the firing pin) and secondly, you need to grip the lever pretty hard to disengage it which can throw off your aim. There is a video on how to get rid of it fairly easily. https://youtu.be/fEqwDY2vXuo
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how reliable is that thing, I figure it's blow back? I've seen dude with Ares Shrike and that shit was jamomatic which makes things not fun. Where do you buy links, how much are they, is that a linked belt or not?
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links are stamped steel and super cheap. M13 and M27 links are common and usually under a tenth of a penny per link. the Shrike worked well when i played around with one, but seemed to be sensitive to belt length as the sprocket had little travel length, so was shorter and violent on pull, which can make jams severe enough to stop the mechanism vs a long length of travel that can easily pull belts over a longer period of time. not a lot of room to work with if you want to keep things compact.
btw, CDNN is blowing out P229's and Sigma pistols for super cheap right now. someone was curious about a cheap pistols, and CDNN had a few M&P's in .40 S&W with two magazines for under $300 shipped.
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<strong>SMITH WESSON SD9VE 9MM</strong> Action: Semi-Automatic, Striker Fired • Finish: Satin Stainless • Barrel Length: 4 • Sights: 3 Dot White • Magazine(s): 2-16 Round Capacity • Grips: Polymer • Weight: 22.7 oz. • Overall Length: 7.2 Features
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Never been a pistol person, well I have rifle caliber pistols, but they’re not the best for concealing. I can open carry just fine, but I’m trying to pick my first everyday carry pistol. I’ve shot pistols, but I just don’t like the grip usually and I refuse to fill out 4473s. So pistol wise just depends what comes up in my used market.
Anything I should look for? It’s weird feeling so out of my element gun wise, but I figure it’s time to get a concealable pistol.
Basically, pistol recommendations for a long time shooter, but I’ve always preferred rifles.
Anything I should look for? It’s weird feeling so out of my element gun wise, but I figure it’s time to get a concealable pistol.
Basically, pistol recommendations for a long time shooter, but I’ve always preferred rifles.
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Just get a 9mm Glock or one of the SIG MHS guns.
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1. understand how you want to carry the pistol and what works and fits your body and lifestyle. make sure you're able to consistently carry and consistently carry in a way that's both comfortable and reliable so if you need to press the pistol into action you can do so with minimal effort.
2. know your routines and habits. if you place your thumbs regularly in a specific way, make sure you choose a pistol that is compatible with that. make sure that the pistol you select fits your hand and budget, that you can reliably practice with it and obtain enough ammunition to carry and regularly practice with it. single-stack 9mm's are popular for a reason.
3. consider your carry needs: does it need to be in-waistband because you don't wear a belt regularly or it might snag on something in a car or truck? does it need to be out-waistband because in your jurisdiction, you can only carry openly? consult your specific circumstances and what laws apply to you, and how you're most often going to be carrying.
4. go with what's familiar and comfortable. a carry gun is not something you want to have questions on. if you prefer revolvers, then go with a revolver or a double action only automatic. if you prefer large pistols due to hand size, consider a smaller double-stack pistol with a pinky rest. if you have trouble picking up sights, consider either trench sights or hi-viz fluorescent low-profile sights. work with familiar controls: if you know a 1911 inside and out, consider a SIG P238.
5. don't discount brands you're unfamiliar with. Kahr, and Bersa aren't known for being top brands, but they do have a positive name in the carry pistol world, sometimes for specific makes and models like the Kahr CT380 or K9, or the Bersa Thunder.
ultimately make sure you get hands on one to feel it out, familiarize yourself with controls, and hopefully put some rounds down range. consider the price of regular practice, maintenance, and carry (quality holsters and the like).
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After sending a box of federal birdshot through it you get used to it and it stops being a problem. I’ve yet to send some rifled slugs through it but I’m confident that they’d be fine. I regret not picking one up sooner.
Like the others have said, it really depends on what you’re looking for in a pistol. My choice in carry might not be right for your needs and vice versa. You might have problems printing when you’re trying to conceal carry, you might not be able to find a holster that’s right for you (which is rare), or maybe the grip just doesn’t feel right.
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Generally speaking how are Turkroach manufactured pistols? The only manufacturer that I've really heard anything about is Canik which I've been told tend to pretty decent quality/value for the price point.
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generally decent quality. labor is cheap, which is where the price difference comes from. unlike some other countries or factories, Turkey takes pride in their manufacturing capability. Pakistani weapons are similar cheap due to labor, not because of poor quality. all that being said, i would probably prefer a Czech weapon than either Pakistani or Turkish weapon. less likely to support terrorists and excellent quality all around.
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There are a few loads that it doesn't like from what I've seen and read, but it's a real runner otherwise. Like I said, I want one as a range toy and an oddity, not as a serious defensive weapon, so I'm cool with the occasional hiccup. Freedom Ordnance has a video of their upper on a full-auto lower chewing through a 1000rnd belt with no issues. The links are proprietary I believe, since the FM-9 is 9mm Para and not 5.56mm or 7.62x51mm, so I doubt links for other belt-feds will work. You can buy the links directly from Freedom Ordnance on their website.
The early ARES Shrikes had some reliability issues. They're in their fifth or sixth generation and called Fightlite now, and I haven't heard any issues with the newer uppers. My buddy has one and loves it.
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yeah, that's the thing, Shrike has their own custom links. I don't know how much different they are from ARES, probably not a whole lot. The main issue is that 9mm is a fairly weak round so imperfections can have a big impact. How consistently can you make those links? Sheet metal thickness varies a lot from sources, same gage.
The dude I was talking about has a huge can of lube that he periodically dumps into it to make sure it runs smooth. That's not fantastic, although I can see how lube and
Another aspect is how much power does it take to pull the belt. I talked to M60 gunners, they damned made fittings from alum cans to get belt feed smooth and straight. Another test is at what hight can your MG pull the belt. Gory was designed to shoot from AA stand, so it can easily pull the belt 4" up. I bet a lot of problems with 9mm feeding comes from that setup, ability to pull belt low and straight, not the actual upper mechanism.