Twitter Hides POTUS Tweet

[Longjack Attack]

Well if this goes into effect, just remember this:

Don't cry because it's over, smile because it happened.

 

[Lieutenant Rasczak]

God dammit Donald. You could've just revoked the Section 230 privileges for these big sites. But instead you fuck up and revoke 230 all together. I'm not voting in the 2020 Election anymore. This country is fucked.

 

[Paladin Derich]

God dammit Donald. You could've just revoked the Section 230 privileges for these big sites. But instead you fuck up and revoke 230 all together. I'm not voting in the 2020 Election anymore. This country is fucked.

To be fair, its been (((fucked))) for decades.

 

[Not Really Here]

Because this is already setting a precedent that you have a hard time wrapping your head around, i see.

That you can't violate sanctions or that you think 'Lyin Ted son of the Zodiac Killer' is suddenly out of nowhere making shit up about Twitter because Trump shit on them?

 

[Boobie Bomb]

Would Wikipedia also get affected cause of this law?

 

[Table Country]

God dammit Donald. You could've just revoked the Section 230 privileges for these big sites. But instead you fuck up and revoke 230 all together. I'm not voting in the 2020 Election anymore. This country is fucked.

I'm glad the people in this thread are steadily coming over to my side of politics

 

[Peasant]

I'm inclined to blame this on Trump being a boomer. I'm not pleased, to be sure, just hoping that there's someone with a bit of sense nearby who can explain his error to him.

Maybe if we're lucky, the yearly internet doomsday scenarios won't come to fruition until someone who actually uses the internet becomes president.

 

[Donald Trump's Neck Vag]

Absolute scenes when Biden becomes president and conservatives realize that - oh shit - maybe allowing the president to decide what is and isn't acceptable speech is bad.

 

[Not Really Here]

Would Wikipedia also get affected cause of this law?

Everyone would be effected if there was a clear line between platform and publisher standards.

 

[majorlyPickled]

He is a lolcow and somehow has a cult-like following that includes members of a site dedicated to laughing at lolcows

You nigger, you spergout in every trump thread.
But for once, I agree with you: fuck Trump.

 

[Andrew Neiman]

He's not thin skinned at all. It's a persona. He's faking it. By taking a hard stance, he makes it so people have to talk him back from that hard stance and he gets more of what he wants.

Is there anything Trump could possibly do that you wouldn't find a way to interpret as intentional and clever?

 

[Boobie Bomb]

Everyone would be effected if there was a clear line between platform and publisher standards.

Well, Wikipedia is fucked

 

[OnMoTi]

Absolute scenes when Biden becomes president and conservatives realize that - oh shit - maybe allowing the president to decide what is and isn't acceptable speech is bad.

But he's not deciding which speech is acceptable, you fucking retard. He's calling out twitter, youtube, etc. for being politically biased.

 

[Paladin Derich]

Shit bros I'm worried, what if Hiromoot has to cut Janny's pay in order to make due?

 

[Shield Breaker]

God dammit Donald. You could've just revoked the Section 230 privileges for these big sites. But instead you fuck up and revoke 230 all together. I'm not voting in the 2020 Election anymore. This country is fucked.

He hasn't revoked anything, rețard. Josh is doom posting because Trump said it should happen on twitter. You know, the same place he threatened to nuke North Korea?

 

[Donald Trump's Neck Vag]

But he's not deciding which speech is acceptable, you fucking retard. He's calling out twitter, youtube, etc. for being politically biased.

Sure he is, bro. I'm sure if Twatter was biased towards conservatives, free speech loving Orange Man would've called them out too.

No mainstream figure actually gives a shit about free speech. They just want their particular opinions to be promoted and protected.

 

[Not Really Here]

Well, Wikipedia is fucked

Not if they stopped controlling posting.

 

[Spamy the Bot]

Spoiler: the post

The law is incredibly simple.

If you run a network or a website, and someone uses it to do something bad, you are not liable for it (with exception). Websites that editorialize (newspapers) are still liable. This is why Hulk Hogan can sue Buzzfeed, but Vordrak can't sue the Kiwi Farms.

What Trump is threatening to do to hurt Twitter is repeal this law, so if someone uses Twitter to do something bad, Twitter is liable for it. He is trying to 'clarify' the law so that deleting tweets and banning accounts is editorialization. Repealing the law in its entirety makes everyone personally, civilly liable for anything published on their platform.

Notice how what he's threatening to do doesn't actually solve the problem. It just makes these platforms so liable for what they publish that the only solution is to censor even more. Any defamation complaint would mean tweets and videos would have to go down. If someone posts something here and I get a complaint it's defamatory, I have to delete it or accept liability.

Currently, the process is: Person goes to court, gets court order to remove content, content is removed. The impetus is on the person to go to court.

Contrast that with the DMCA. Section 230 explicitly does not cover IP. So when I get a DMCA complaint, and I tell them to fuck off, I actually am personally accepting responsibility for that content. Every time I do this I evaluate the use of the work and decide if it's fair or not. This is me sticking my neck out on behalf of users.

(2) No effect on intellectual property law
Nothing in this section shall be construed to limit or expand any law pertaining to intellectual property.

I can't do that for statements. Every time someone claims a post is defamation, I have to evaluate the facts and determine if I trust those claims so much that I believe I can personally represent it in court on behalf of the person making the post.

To anyone who would say "you're in Serbia, why do you care?" my answer is: I am physically in Serbia, but my possessions are not. Verisign, the company that leases all .NET domains, is American. My bank accounts are American (and thanks to the USA PATRIOT Act, unregulated banks like Swiss banks do not allow Americans to have accounts with them). My hardware is in the US. My datacenter is in the US. My LLCs are American. A civil judgement against me means they can take all of that, including the domain, Few other countries have the strong and broad protections for both speech and services as the US does currently.

Repealing Section 230 does not just spite Twitter. It emboldens Twitter to censor as hard as possible and jeopardizes any small forum without financial resources. I cannot become an outlaw for the forum. I cannot throw away my American citizenship for the forum. I've already done enough, and with the way Trump supporters are cheering this on, I don't even want to even bother.

Thank you for clarifying it and putting into context, big guy.
So basically the already bad trends could possibly go even worse. Nice. This Internet thing was a cool thing, too bad it had to die.

Overall, yeah. Your life is way more important that the forums. It's already semi-crazy what you done already. You are like a good moot, who didn't cuck.

 

[Kornheiser]

Which jannie at Twitter caused this shitstorm? Twitter is at fault for pushing this too far, but I still don’t see anything happening right now anyway from both sides.

 

[Ivan Shatov]

Something to consider, might make your weekend a little better.

Netflix makes up about 70% of the world's internet traffic. 8k video is coming, which is like 20x the size of a 4k stream. And demand is increasing, there's more providers, video chat usage has increased 5x since January, etc.

Arguably, everyone on the Internet benefitted from the FCC decision to can Net Neutrality. It meant providers could throttle traffic and gave them leverage to get Netflix to limit stream sizes during lockdowns. Without that, it probably would have been impossible for a sudden surge of teleworkers to do anything productive, markets would have crashed a lot harder than they did.

Throttling was a very unpopular idea. When Net Neutrality was being debated, the FCC was subject to bomb threats, constant accusations from activists, sustained social media campaigns claiming every website was about to become pay-per-view, lots of claims that throttling was racist / white supremacist / sexist, etc. It had me very upset at the time, trying to sort through what people were saying to get to the facts. Had petitions on all my sites encouraging people to fight it. Watched the livestream when it was passed and felt very, very bad for a while.

In retrospect, throttling was a very good idea. Policy recognized the reality of the Internet and where it's going, it gave providers a way to align with that path. Always wondered who benefitted from that sustained level of activism, the actions didn't seem to be connected to the facts. Time has proved it was political theater, looking back I wish I spent my time more productively.

There are people who want you to be really upset about the EO and Section 230. If this doesn't go their way, they stand to lose Trillions and a substantial amount of influence. They represent economic interests which are very much empowered via the panopticonic nature of today's worldwide Internet surveillance infrastructure. Mastercard, for example, would not be what it is without data-driven insights into the behavior of massive numbers of consumers worldwide. And they would never be able to get that data without cooperation from Facebook, Google and Twitter.

Say what you want about the President, he's not part of that club. The people around him are not stupid and have demonstrated quite a bit of foresight in their actions. Moreover, they are not going to be bullied by a Big Tech cartel. Previous actions from the administration have worked to the benefit of regular Internet users and certainly did not screw smaller sites. Kiwi Farms loads just fine for me even though everyone one of my neighbors is watching Netflix.

You get 24 hours a day and can spend them however you choose. If you want to be worried about the financial interests of a bunch of kleptocrats in Silicon Valley, go ahead. But you might want to think about who benefits from your outrage. It's not Null.