Diseased #Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

SaidNoOneEver said:
NOT ONE of the people complaining about Dynamite would've turned down the offer to do a cover. They're mad because none of them were.
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From what I understand you don't have to be offered a Vamp cover. Unless you are one of the few artists Dynamite actually want, it's you that contacts Dynamite, makes a pitch, accepts their terms, then buys the comics off them and sell them yourself.
 
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cow-wannabe said:
From what I understand you don't have to be offered a Vamp cover. Unless you are one of the few artists Dynamite actually want, it's you that contacts Dynamite, makes a pitch, accepts their terms, then buys the comics off them and sell them yourself.
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This is true but the covers with Anna, Fraga and Thibert all had their IGG campaigns administered by Dynamite which implies it wasn't the standard deal. Seems like they were approached by Dynamite, not the other way although the reverse is possible.
 
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Fascinating. I forgot about Nasser! I remember him as whipping-boy entertainment. I'm thinking that's a vital role in the Sciverfrog hive system. There must always be jesters, sycophantic fans, and allies who never criticize him directly. I can't remember if there was a jester type prior to Nasser, but after Cecil there was no need for more. Cecil perfected the role by not having the slightest desire to maintain his own dignity while being a popular draw for the Youtube channel. He is practically Ethan's family pet right now, which is probably not a good thing for the family or Cecil. But it is fantastic for EVS!

Besides being obvious strategic assets for Frog, Malin and Cecil didn't let their rhetoric spill over against him personally. They gave him enough room to maneuver without assigning him any of the responsibility for his intense prior WC involvement. Rank-and-file WC are permitted to remain as sycophants but now that the fan-turned-ally hybrid (WC Goodfellas) tried to take out Malin like Billy Batts have been purged, EVS doesn't currently have an ally lined up to run the Gay ole Opry. Thus the need for Kayfabe to cover for it. Sciver could be orchestrating the first documented Gayfabe.

I just can't turn off the tinfoil.
 
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Newman's Own said:
This is true but the covers with Anna, Fraga and Thibert all had their IGG campaigns administered by Dynamite which implies it wasn't the standard deal. Seems like they were approached by Dynamite, not the other way although the reverse is possible.
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My understanding is that it's a -behind the pizza parlor- deal where If you know Ethan and suck his cock he leverages his connections at Dynamite to get the campaign.
Dynamite is hard up for cash and it's still the person who drew the covers responsibility to be the primary salesperson which is why these deals go to people who have the EVS guarantee and/or a large youtube audience.
The people Dynamite actually wants get monthly covers. The people EVS wants get old reprints of Vampy #1. Even Tim Lim has done cover work for Dynamite monthlies along with people like Ibrahim Moustafa. Most of Dynamites big selling titles have 3-5 variants per month.
Without Ethan promising to use his paypiggies as collateral I doubt any of these IGG campaigns would have happened. If you look at Dynamites crowdfund history they usually hire a bunch of artists. They only do these single artist campaigns when there is a Van Sciver connection.
 
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Absurdity said:
Fascinating. I forgot about Nasser! I remember him as whipping-boy entertainment. I'm thinking that's a vital role in the Sciverfrog hive system. There must always be jesters, sycophantic fans, and allies who never criticize him directly. I can't remember if there was a jester type prior to Nasser, but after Cecil there was no need for more. Cecil perfected the role by not having the slightest desire to maintain his own dignity while being a popular draw for the Youtube channel. He is practically Ethan's family pet right now, which is probably not a good thing for the family or Cecil. But it is fantastic for EVS!

Besides being obvious strategic assets for Frog, Malin and Cecil didn't let their rhetoric spill over against him personally. They gave him enough room to maneuver without assigning him any of the responsibility for his intense prior WC involvement. Rank-and-file WC are permitted to remain as sycophants but now that the fan-turned-ally hybrid (WC Goodfellas) tried to take out Malin like Billy Batts have been purged, EVS doesn't currently have an ally lined up to run the Gay ole Opry. Thus the need for Kayfabe to cover for it. Sciver could be orchestrating the first documented Gayfabe.

I just can't turn off the tinfoil.
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That all sounds about right to me and I thought your last three theories were from another planet. I'd say you're close to the mark with these estimations.

Ex-WarCampaign memer and current anti PhobicXeno says that word came from above about who to hit with shitty photoshops and how hard.
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I hope this tard civil war never ends.
 
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Analog Devolved said:
They only do these single artist campaigns when there is a Van Sciver connection.
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Lot's of artists go solicit books from Dynamite and other publishers to sell as limited editions with unique covers
at conventions and such. It's common practice and some really big artists do it. We just don't hear about it because when they do it it's a nomal business practice and when CG does it it's a parade of drama and an autistic shit show.

WhimsicalTrolli said:
Who's jml?
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Jean Luc Meisel
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Newman's Own said:
Lot's of artists go solicit books from Dynamite and other publishers to sell as limited editions with unique covers
at conventions and such. It's common practice and some really big artists do it. We just don't hear about it because when they do it it's a nomal business practice and when CG does it it's a parade of drama and an autistic shit show.



Jean Luc Meisel
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Oh I know. Comic shops do it all the time for promotional material. It's where you get "midtown comic exclusive variants" for example.
Most of the big artists that do it use a cover of a book they actually worked on though.

When CG does promo variants it becomes a tard fit youtube spectacle.
 
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Elwood P. Dowd said:
Stumbled across this gem from January 2020. They think killing #WARCAMPAIGN is the key. 🤣
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LORD CAESAR COMICSGATUS CALIGULA on Twitter

“These Edwin Boyette acolytes sit in private DM groups and scheme and recruit to deplatform and destroy me. They use language about “promoting good comics” to seem virtuous, but they’re snakes. They think killing #WARCAMPAIGN is the key. Pathetic. Just be #ComicsGate guys. 🐸🤷‍♂️”
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Newman's Own said:
So that's what's weird.

JLM seems to have been a gay operative for WarCampaign in their infiltration of Indiecron but these DMs were months after that op failed and he seems to be infiltrating antis and coordinating them. He seems to be trying to operate this schmuck who is fighting with another anti.

Ethan calls JLM an "Edwin Boyette acolyte" but as you said he's enemies with Edwin. Pretty sure they hate each other. Ethan would have known that. It wasn't a secret. The stuff about Edwin de-platforming was a narrative Ethan was using steadily because Edwin was copywrite reporting channels re-purposing his YT videos or something foolish. That was back when CG frowned on de-platforming.

But here's the weirdest part, it was the "anti" he's giving instructions to who shared the DM's with Ethan or presumably WarCampaign.

So were they both on WarCampaign's side sharing DM's on each other?
Was this all theater to give Ethan material? That makes no sense because the DMs were 3 months old in January.
Were they both moles and neither knew about the other?
Did JLM really betray WarCampaign?
Why would anyone trust him?

The levels of homosexuality in this op are incredibly high.

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Jean Luc, the guy Ethan said was "scheming and recruiting to de-platform" him in October apparently got over his nefarious plans to dethrone the king. Now he defends EVS.

Smells fishy.

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Elwood P. Dowd said:
For the record, this seems to be the blog entry in question:
#ComicsGate Is Finally Imploding
Nothing new or any profound analysis nobody here's thought of, that I'm seeing. 🤷🏼‍♂️
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The mistake in Jon's reasoning is that he's conflating the 'outrage mobs' that Frog harnesses with Warcampaign (which is certainly what the latter would have you believe) . I would argue this is not the case and that WC has always styled itself as the minority vanguard of this comic book consumer revolution while claiming the authority of the customer majority. Protecting it against schemes and scams and watering down of CG (read WC) ideals. But being the mob itself? Never.

I wrote a post back in March on this subject.
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Warcampaign is a brilliant, completely unintentional parody of "revolutionary vanguards" in the real world. Like Leninism, if it was adapted to a comic book consumer revolt.
  • Group founded by collective of fringe political and social outcasts ☑
  • Founded on the belief that the movement needs to be kept pure by a self-appointed, self-accountable 'vanguard' ☑
  • Argues that it is permissible to use the purported tactics of the oppressor against them in the service of the greater good ☑
  • Concept of "the greater good" is eventually distilled to "whatever furthers the interest of the group". ☑
  • Argues that time/resources/funding not given to the movement should be considered theft from the movement ☑
  • Turns on anyone who might lead the movement in a different direction due to their actual competence (Bogdanov/TenNapel) ☑
  • Absolutely dysfunctional in practice, promotes the lowest quality, lowest yielding projects (Wart the Wizard, College of the Dead, collectivised farming) ☑
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Jon can feel free to go through that list and compare it with the actions WC has made since I made this post, like complaining that the spotlight Anna received for the JACK show was theft from worthier Comicsgate members or literally declaring a peasant uprising against the Comicsgate bourgeoise. For a 'hard right fundamentalist Christian', watching him get cozy with Bolshevism is a true delight. Now, if the mob itself actually turned on Frog, that would mean Comicsgate is imploding, but I find this doubtful. According to Frog, people are actually coming back to Comicsgate and buying Cyberfrog and there's old faces surfacing and talking about rejoining the movement now that Warcampaign isn't around to shit it up. If true, it's better than Frog deserves after the years of bullshit he put everyone through by letting this go on, but it goes to show how much everyone wanted to believe in Comicsgate in the beginning.

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Analog Devolved said:
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This account no longer exists.
Created March 2020.
Was involved in many of the gay ops over the past few days and quoted by EVS against WC.
These drama accounts are all fishy as hell.
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Blacc is a dude from France who likes to weaponize his race when he attacks.

He'll be back he's been suspended and started new accounts multiple times usually with "Blacc" in the name.
 
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