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Socially induced dysphoria literally never happens, though!!1! You can't brainwash someone into being trans!!1 :|

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Unfortunately I'm probably the "stereotypical" detransitioner: autistic (high-functioning) and lesbian, with childhood trauma. As for how I specifically got into trans stuff, surprisingly it wasn't online. I long felt out of place with other girls (and I went to an all girls Catholic school, and I was frequently called a dyke/les around 12 onward, so you can imagine how that went) and researched in the library LGBT stuff, because I was an autistic nerd who thought the library had all the answers. Found lesbian stuff but also transgender stuff, and I read up on it in some old children's psych book. I felt being a man would suit me better because I was a tomboy who played sports, liked women, and didn't give a shit about makeup, boys, etc. ("girl"things).

Didn't help that I grew up in a conservative Korean family, and that I was frequently singled out for being the only female child of a bunch of boys. My mom would, for instance, ask how could I call myself a girl because I wouldn't wear a dress or grow my hair out, too. I also received a lot of positive attention from girls when I presented as a boy, whereas they made fun of me for being les when I presented as a girl. It'd be more surprising if I didn't fall into wanting to be a boy at some point, to be honest.

I got into online trans circles (though it took me a while to get into Tumblr) around 2013 and from there I was a goner. Luckily my family was against it and didn't put me on T then, or I'd be fucked now. My bone structure and skull are still unaffected by T because I went on it past puberty, and I never underwent surgery so I'm lucky as far as detrans'ing goes.

I detransitioned because going on T, I still didn't feel right and was depressed, anxious, awkward. I felt like I was playing at being a man. Talking to other trans people, they would say it's imposter syndrome and to be more confident and explore my ~gender identity~ but I didn't feel right. Eventually I found a gender critical subreddit and at first went through denial - "they're TERFs so they're wrong," "they don't know what it's like to be trans," "they're bigots," etc. Practically went through the five stages of grief. But it clicked. I believe for some people transitioning makes them happy, especially if they don't fit the gender roles of their sex, but I don't know if I believe the ~laydee brain~ thing, and a lot of the troubling stuff in the trans community is hard for me to ignore now.

I hope this was informative. Sorry for rambling! :(
Aww. Well, I'm glad you snapped out of it before you got too far into your transition. Testosterone can cause serious health problems in women and SRS is risky for obvious reasons. There's nothing wrong with being a tomboy or a lesbian. Don't be afraid to be masculine if it makes you happy, butch women are women too.
 
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More on the J.K Rowling drama.

The Troonosphere is livid at her again, because Rowling has a Twitter screw up. She accidentally pasted a part of an article she was reading into one of her tweets (about kids sending in their artwork). Trannies and genderspecials are raging because it was a clip from an article outlining the attack on 61 year old Maria Mclaughlin in 2017, by a fucking man-goblin named (Tara Wolf). Wolf was found guilty of assault in a court of law.


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In Troon town, one is a hateful transphobe for reading articles they don't approve of. Trannies (and a lot of men?) are in full Inquisition mode.

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Of course, not a single one gives a flying fuck that a 60 year old lady was assaulted

I honestly have no idea what these fucktards think they've discovered here, aside from Rowling reading things they don't want people to know about.
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Weirdly, Nicolas released a video of himself travelling Europe 10 years ago in order to cheer up people suffering from no-travel Covid, lol.

Surprisingly, he appears to be a homosexual transsexual rather than the autogynephile I expected. But then I believe that AGP is probably a factor regardless of how a man comes to decide he should dress up like a woman. Unfortunately he did get a lot beefier and his facial bones more prominent after this trip. I guess that's what growing up does to men in general though.

https://youtu.be/496SqT-OkxM (For some reason I can't upload this video to this site.)
 
What kind of troubling stuff? Have you explored alternative diagnoses? You can be autistic and depressed at the same time you know.

Stuff like a general overpolicing in the community, grooming (egg_irl gives me chills sometimes), a protection of trans people as some can't-do-wrong class (even when they do horrible things). The tucute movement also disturbed me then and disturbs me now. Plus the prevalence of autism and mental illness (even the ~totally real DID alter~ thing that's so common imo speaks to some sort of disordered thinking).

Autism and depression (plus anxiety I think) are comorbid, but the depression and anxiety stemmed from being stealth but not feeling like a real man and chasing after something I couldn't have (like being a cis straight man with a wife and biological kids between us) and the fear of being outed as trans when I just wanted to live a normal life. I realized transitioning would be the exact opposite of that, being on HRT indefinitely (ftms either choose long term T and a hysterectomy or getting off T asap before the risk of ovarian cancer and general atrophy in the region fuck them up and living as E-dominant men which, honestly, makes it hard to pass as a man when you're a natal female) plus a life of surgeries and recovery. It just wasn't me being "really" me - constantly hiding, changing all my legal docs so I don't get weird looks, having to disclose to every partner ever, etc. I realized I'd be happier learning to accept my body as it was.

I've been in therapy for a good while now and my therapist agrees with the specialist's dx, but idk, maybe there's something super fucked up in my brain lol. I dunno.

Are there legions of males detransitioning? I find it's mostly women. Maybe you were too smart and aware to be duped past an adult age. The internet has taught me that there is a population of male failures that can't handle their porn. If trooning out/sissy fetish/whatever the fuck etc is their kink, than they will fight to live that 24/7 as long as they can. But lesbians don't seem to be doing this for sexual gratification, they just want to feel better mentally and stop being shat on.
Actually, I have question ( you don't have to answer), but since you're a lesbian, how did it feel being Trans when you were, and seeing troons basically attack gays/lesbians sexual orientation?
Again, you don't have an answer, I'm just curious if there are Trans men out there that feel a pang of defensiveness when they see boorish man-goblins bullying lesbians into "girl cock".

You're right, there are way more women detrans'ing then men, and there aren't really any consensuses on why (plus detrans research gets brigaded by TRAs).

I can't speak to everyone but for me that was one of the things that "peaked" me. I spent my whole (pubescent onwards) life having guys try to force their dicks on me and they'd say things eerily similar to MTFs trying to push girldick - girldick is somehow "different" (it's not, it just has medication-induced ED!), it's basically a strap-on (not even close to true), etc. It also freaked me out to see lesbians being cancelled for not wanting to date MTFs.

I also had the un-fun experience of TW being super fucking creepy to me because I'm a natal female, flirting inappropriately and sending/asking for nudes, asking for feet pics (never had a natal female do this, even in highly sexual contexts), saying they felt differently about me than cis men (because I'm AFAB, lol), etc. and then flipping out when I didn't reciprocate sexual interest. This is all when I was still identifying as FTM, I'm horrified to think of what they'd say now.

I'm sure there are other trans men and detransitioned women who feel similarly to me, but there are trans men (usually straight or "gay") who side with MTFs.

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Aww. Well, I'm glad you snapped out of it before you got too far into your transition. Testosterone can cause serious health problems in women and SRS is risky for obvious reasons. There's nothing wrong with being a tomboy or a lesbian. Don't be afraid to be masculine if it makes you happy, butch women are women too.

Thank you, I appreciate that a lot :heart-full: I'm lucky, yes, there are a lot of detrans'ers who got surgeries (top and bottom) and have to work through that.
 
Socially induced dysphoria literally never happens, though!!1! You can't brainwash someone into being trans!!1 :|

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Aww. Well, I'm glad you snapped out of it before you got too far into your transition. Testosterone can cause serious health problems in women and SRS is risky for obvious reasons. There's nothing wrong with being a tomboy or a lesbian. Don't be afraid to be masculine if it makes you happy, butch women are women too.
>Don't ignore it, give in to the tranny cult and "explore" your "identity" and chop your naughty bits up
>>>Just come out as trans already you egg, come on, become dependent on other broken people for your stupid sense of self.
I could go all night about how horrifying their line of thinking is. It's like a cult that's just allowed to function and suck people in during daylight.
I've had a few enocunters with troons trying to profile me and tell me I'm an egg and get super pissy when I tell them I won't have any of it. It's always way worse than it seems from these posts.
 
Using a male pen name means you're trans now.
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It's the cult mentality. Even if we have a huge thread discussing the fact that translifeline is a scam, they won't look at it because they think anyone who criticizes something trans related must be a transphobe and transphobes are wrong about everything.

I remember seeing a similar phenomenon in some fundamentalist christian churches. "You shouldn't look at media made by non-christians, it's probably Satanic. And don't listen to anyone criticizing us, they're definitely demon posessed!"

Edit: actually, I'm not sure translifeline is a scam anymore. Apparently the scammy founders quit.

Autism and depression (plus anxiety I think) are comorbid, but the depression and anxiety stemmed from being stealth but not feeling like a real man and chasing after something I couldn't have (like being a cis straight man with a wife and biological kids between us) and the fear of being outed as trans when I just wanted to live a normal life.
You can't be a cis straight man, but you can be a butch lesbian with a wife and biological kids. You could pick a sperm donor who looks like your partner. The only difference between you and a man is your body type and there's nothing wrong with that, you can take on male gender roles regardless of your anatomy.
 
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I haven't seen this one before. What's the scam, exactly?
Short version: the overwhelming majority of calls go unanswered and the operators have a habit of misusing funds for things such as travel expenses. A notable example would be the relatively recent exposure of Kjel Anderson and Niraj Chaubal and their misuse of funding.

For a general overview of their history (at least up into until January 2019), I'd recommend Null's stream on them:
 
Rowling Update:

So our own Dr Adrian Harrop- Tranny-defender, woman-hater, compared JK Rowling to Jimmy Saville; a notorious child rapist.

Read the tweets in his thread.

The minute Rowling threatened Nicola Spurling with a defamation lawsuit, Harrop skittered back into a dark corner like the cowardly crustacean he is, knowing full well he could be sued for libel in a heartbeat. He deleted the tweet, and "apologized".

This is amazing, because every lunatic tweet these jackasses make pushes Rowling closer and closer to becoming Terf Queen.

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They're just supremely pissing her off.

Because that's what you do for success right? When you see a huge fucking predator in the water (Rowling- who had power/connections/money), the FIRST thing you wanna do is tie some raw, bloody meat to a swimmer, get him to slap the mega-shark a few times and have him do the backstroke around her.
Troons are basically proving terves right in the most brazen ways possible.

Interesting side story- so Fionne Orlander looks like a sane Trans person sticking up for reality in all this. Fionne is basically "truscum" to Genderspecials. Someone who knows hey are biologically male, so gets alot of hate from troons.

Rowling has invited Fionne for drinks irl.

So I humbly request Fionne should formally make Rowling the Terf Hive Queen officially, and drink as much expensive wine as possible. I clipped the discussion with "Lenart the Lad" because Lenart is an exceptional bastard.

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You can't be a cis straight man, but you can be a butch lesbian with a wife and biological kids. You could pick a sperm donor who looks like your partner. The only difference between you and a man is your body type and there's nothing wrong with that, you can take on male gender roles regardless of your anatomy.

Oh, absolutely. I'm happy with that, too :) It's helped a lot to accept that, and basically accept that being a masculine lesbian is okay and normal (as stupid as it sounds).

On another note, in light of the whole BLM activism sweeping twitter, a clout-chasing white MTF troon who is a "serial rapist of black and brown transmascs [read: people born women] has been called out.

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What is it with MTFs and being rapists? :(
 
Interesting side story- so Fionne Orlander looks like a sane Trans person sticking up for reality in all this. Fionne is basically "truscum" to Genderspecials. Someone who knows hey are biologically male, so gets alot of hate from troons.

Rowling has invited Fionne for drinks irl.

So I humbly request Fionne should formally make Rowling the Terf Hive Queen officially, and drink as much expensive wine as possible. I clipped the discussion with "Lenart the Lad" because Lenart is an exceptional bastard.

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That's surprisingly wholesome. I hope there's some follow-up to that one. Even if there's no drama, should be interesting to see what J.K. The TERF Queen talks about with a bunch of transgender people. I'm expecting a lot of selfies.

Oh, absolutely. I'm happy with that, too :) It's helped a lot to accept that, and basically accept that being a masculine lesbian is okay and normal (as stupid as it sounds).
Glad you're finding yourself there! For reals, not the "FIND YOURSELF BY JOINING OUR CULT" stuff you find on social media. It's not easy to be that introspective.

On another note, in light of the whole BLM activism sweeping twitter, a clout-chasing white MTF troon who is a "serial rapist of black and brown transmascs [read: people born women] has been called out.

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What is it with MTFs and being rapists? :(
There are a bunch of reasons, really. For some it's just a fetish. Others are predators, going wolf-in-sheep's-clothing. Others still are the equivalent of Nice Guys™ who think they're entitled to pussy at all costs.
 
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I don't understand some trannies who call themselves "devs", like, what the fuck are you developing mate?
I don't understand trannies who claim they had no idea they had dysphoria until their teens, 20s, and 30s. I mean, if I wanted to magically grow a dick, I think I'd know about it.
 
I don't understand trannies who claim they had no idea they had dysphoria until their teens, 20s, and 30s. I mean, if I wanted to magically grow a dick, I think I'd know about it.
That's why troons have invented the concept of "egg". Their gender dysphoria (when it exists, as opposed to being just a cover for a kink like AGP) has to be groomed into them until they "hatch". That's the only way it can happen, statistically. Even in a large country like America, if you have an incidence gender dysphoria of 1 in 30,000 in males (as the wiki itself states in what seems to be the most medically rigorous study linked in that paragraph because LOL at Massachusetts having a 0.5% transgender population), you would have an estimated of 11,000 people who were born male who suffer from gender dysphoria. Of those, a minority would embrace it to the point of transitioning. Let's be very generous and call it 50%.

Look at Twitter and Reddit. Does it really look like there would only be 5,5k MTF troons in the US?

Anyhow...

Even those who do seem to claim they felt "different from other people around them" from a young age were often just tomboys or more delicate boys who ended up so insecure about their expected gender roles that they see trooning out as a reasonable alternative. Doing that completely ignores the fact that once you're past high school no one with an ounce of maturity gives a shit about whether you're a grown-ass man who collects Barbies, or you're a butch girl who watches football with the boys.

But these people don't develop past that highschool mentality, and they search for like-minded people. And so you have an entire community made up of people who are all trying to be the queen of the ball and commenting on how beautiful their friends are, while sharpening their knives to backstab one another as soon as one of them displays a flaw they can exploit for social gain.
 
I don't understand trannies who claim they had no idea they had dysphoria until their teens, 20s, and 30s. I mean, if I wanted to magically grow a dick, I think I'd know about it.
That's because dysphoria is a very vague disorder. So vague, in fact, that I've seen trannies shill the idea that if you have plain old normie depression maybe it's because you're subconsciously dysphoric. Some say that if you're happy with your gender but get a surge of excitement when crossdressing, you're dysphoric. If you're not happy with gender roles, you're dysphoric. If you feel confused about your place in life, you're dysphoric. Everything can be labeled gender dysphoria these days.

It's no different from cults that target troubled people and claim to have the solution to their woes. Oh, you're depressed? Scientology knows why and we can cure you! You just have to spend all your money to get rid of your body thetans, paypig. :(
 
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