U.S. Riots of May 2020 over George Floyd and others - ITT: a bunch of faggots butthurt about worthless internet stickers

[Elric of Melnibone]

That was a post I made back when I admittedly was speaking in anger over the situation, I've calmed down and am trying to see things from a reasonable, logical perspective based on law and logic, not emotion.

If you wish to hold something even I admit was based on knee-jerk emotion against me versus my current attempt at looking at this situation with calm and reflection, that would be your decision.

As the resident expert, would you use a regular automatic weapon or an automatic machine gun that fires Derek Chauvins at 900 PPM?

 

[Dr.JohanAspergers]

That was a post I made back when I admittedly was speaking in anger over the situation, I've calmed down and am trying to see things from a reasonable, logical perspective based on law and logic, not emotion.

If you wish to hold something even I admit was based on knee-jerk emotion against me versus my current attempt at looking at this situation with calm and reflection, that would be your decision.

Just admit you are a racist piece of shit that has fantasies about committing mass murder on black people.

 

[KingCoelacanth]

I really hope, no, PRAY that this is the end of the 10's and the start of a new era. Because I don't know how much further this pendulum can swing.

Have you ever heard of a little something called the USSR

 

[Ersatz Goods]

There's a trend of people deleting their social media, however quietly. You can observe it in the number of users these platforms have. Young people are going to be more likely to try to stick it out, especially since the only socialization many of them know is through these platforms - but even then, don't be surprised if there's a quiet, sweeping movement that convinces many of them to abandon the groundswells of negativity and do something meaningful with their lives instead.

(Or, more probably, just move to a different platform where they can quietly delete the old one and moderate themselves while still being a waste of resources desperate for validation.)

I've seen a bit of it myself and I have hope that you're right. I tend to be overly doomer on things until I sort myself out and look at things from a few different angles. It sucks because I used to be very optimistic about everything, and I just wanted a relatively safe, clean life where I didn't have to think negatively about or hurt anyone. It feels like there's been some terrible paradigm shift since I was younger and it's got me on edge. I still have hope though, and I want to believe most people are just saying what's most convenient on social media to keep their heads down. I just really miss when online anonymity was the norm and not the exception. Thanks though, you've saved me a bit of doing my head in.

 

[Mr Yuck]

Of course, this doesn't mean that it's necessarily reality, either; just seems, if the bricks really are a conspiracy, the most likely thing. Probably one cell had the idea, figured out the logistics, did a test run, and then passed the idea on.

Yeah, this exactly. It's unlinked cells just doing their thing.

I mean, Antifa is a "terrorist group" the same way Juggalos are a "gang". I mean they all combine under a name/banner and all seem to share an idea, but there is no like...governing body or any way to get them all to do something. It's just a combination of a bunch of small groups.

And for the record I'd much rather slam some Faygo with a Juggalo than deal with the harpy yelling of an Antifa douche.

 

[GethN7]

Yeah, this exactly. It's unlinked cells just doing their thing.

I mean, Antifa is a "terrorist group" the same way Juggalos are a "gang". I mean they all combine under a name/banner and all seem to share an idea, but there is no like...governing body or any way to get them all to do something. It's just a combination of a bunch of small groups.

I'd concur. It's even to their advantage to not have one major governing body, cause it's like slaying the Hydra of myth. Cut off one head, another grows in its place. If you want to make it hard to pin you down legally en masse, that sounds like a logical decentralized way to foment terror.

 

[Gamergirl Cleanup Crew]

I don't think Antifa is getting support from anyone. They are just a loosely linked hash tag group, who have a lot of money from mommy and daddy and wanna LARP that they are fighting some oppressive regime.

All the DNC is doing is just staying out of their way and not calling them out for their quasi domestic terror nonsense. Like, I don't think there is some secret cabal linking any of these groups together.

Antifa and ancoms are heavily involved with feds. Most of them are idiots from social media who think of the riots as the latest block party, but there is alphabet involvement especially in groups like Unicorn Riot or BAMN.

 

[nonperson]

I don't think Antifa is getting support from anyone. They are just a loosely linked hash tag group, who have a lot of money from mommy and daddy and wanna LARP that they are fighting some oppressive regime.

All the DNC is doing is just staying out of their way and not calling them out for their quasi domestic terror nonsense. Like, I don't think there is some secret cabal linking any of these groups together.

They are pretty well organized for a group with no funding. While its structure is decentralized, I'm sure Antifa has some level of overall governance. It would be naive to think they aren't receiving funding from anywhere.

If you see a subversive group powerful enough to make an impact, and the instability they cause would benefit you greatly, would you not fund them?

 

[But I Digress]

Holy shit, the cops might injure you but these "antifa medics" will fucking gruesomely mutilate you for life with their dumb bullshit. I'd rather be shot by the cops with nobody around than "helped" by these fucking clowns.

I'm an amputee. to see somebody lose their shit over a scratch cracks me up.

 

[Mr. Confederate Man]

Antifa and ancoms are heavily involved with feds. Most of them are idiots from social media who think of the riots as the latest block party, but there is alphabet involvement especially in groups like Unicorn Riot or BAMN.

Got any proof of this? I wouldn't be surprised to hear that the FBI has infiltrated Antifa like they did with the Hell's Angles, Klan, etc, but Unicorn Riot? I don't the they's be able to agree on anything other than a suicide pact.

 

[GethN7]

They are pretty well organized for a group with no funding. While its structure is decentralized, I'm sure Antifa has some level of overall governance. It would be naive to think they aren't receiving funding from anywhere.

If you see a subversive group powerful enough to make an impact, and the instability they cause would benefit you greatly, would you not fund them?

I'd agree. It's likely all the minor groups are getting funded in some way, some of them overt, others covert, but it's not beyond reason to expect they have a few bankrollers lying around tossing money into a communal pot, they just are apparently good enough at muddying the waters it's hard to pin down all the origins of the cash flow in many ways.

 

[DumbDude42]

Property owner voting is outdated to begin with, but in your hypothetical the bank technically owns the property until the mortgage is paid.

banks dont own mortgaged houses, they merely have a contractual right that gives them ownership rights IF certain conditions are met (the guy doesn't pay his rates)

 

[Ersatz Goods]

You know when I'm angry I don't talk about going "postal" on ethnic minorities

Just admit you are a racist piece of shit that has fantasies about committing mass murder on black people.

It seems like you aren't seeing the huge amount of white looters, or the number of African Americans getting killed by the protestors of peace like David Dorn.

 

[Rich Evans Apologist]

I've seen a bit of it myself and I have hope that you're right. I tend to be overly doomer on things until I sort myself out and look at things from a few different angles. It sucks because I used to be very optimistic about everything, and I just wanted a relatively safe, clean life where I didn't have to think negatively about or hurt anyone. It feels like there's been some terrible paradigm shift since I was younger and it's got me on edge. I still have hope though, and I want to believe most people are just saying what's most convenient on social media to keep their heads down. I just really miss when online anonymity was the norm and not the exception. Thanks though, you've saved me a bit of doing my head in.

So after 2016, I chopped off my social media at the hip. You can use FB's messenger like AIM, basically, and otherwise completely nonengage with the platform. All the more that happened to me was that... I got rid of some vapid friendships and it's a bit more annoying to keep up on information from bands or developers that I like. Yet in the current moment of WE, BRAND, CARE DEEPLY ABOUT THING... is that such a bad thing? And I pass my experience on to anyone that I can, doubtful as I am that it'll spark a desire to change in others.

People assume that there's a high, high consequence to dropping social media - that you'll be a pariah. Maybe a Linkedin is useful to have, I guess, if you're looking for a job or something, but otherwise... you're a pariah among the worst people on the planet all concentrated in one place. You can still meet people in the old fashioned way, by going to events or classes or hobbyist shit that interests you, and you can still just swap numbers or add people on the various messenger shit. Many younger folks probably have no experience with doing this kind of shit -- but it's not something that's going to go away and get replaced just because socmed is more expedient. Once these dipshits experience the revelation that you can make friends without sending a request, the cracks are going to slowly pile on.

(Of course, socmed realizes this and tries to develop more and more ways to make people addicted to their shit. But is it anyone else's responsibility to help out junkies?)

 

[Unpaid Emotional Labourer]

There's also sjws screeching about attacking and killing all police dogs and horses now on twitter, maybe that'll make them change their minds too. There's no reason for any innocent animals to die because of the fucked up things humans are doing.

Though this reminds me of that scene in Community where a white female character says 'I can excuse racism, but I draw the line at animal cruelty' lol

Animals are innocent, adult humans are not. And yeah, any SJWs who think they’re going to get away with torturing animals white people keep as pets *in America* where white people are in charge...sure remind normal white people that black men are the ones who run most dog fighting rings and that black people in general hate the same animals white people love.

Meanwhile in Slate, black columnist goes mental on a black man writing in to discuss his dismay over finding out his privileged black son was out looting during the riots. Actually argues - says the quiet part out loud - that black people should be allowed to steal anything they want. Black folks are second only to troons in their lack of awareness of optics. LW appears to be real, showed up in the comments. Then further down vents her spleen at some groveling woke white lady and displays a troubling degree of contempt for children who are white, blonde, and blue-eyed. Would not want this lady near my own white, blonde, blue-eyed child, she is unstable and unsafe.

https://slate.com/human-interest/2020/06/looting-protest-punishment-care-and-feeding.html

I think this actually helps Trump. Most of this is happening in liberal cities/states and they're dropping the ball big time. Trump's bible photo will play well with his base. Meanwhile Biden is taking a knee. Twitter might be awash with pro rioter sentiment but polls show in the real world it's quite the opposite.

Agree, are there any states with Republican governors getting the worst of this shit? I’m sitting here in central Florida and my town isn’t big enough to see any rioting, but it doesn’t seem to me like the riots in Orlando or even Miami are particularly bad. I haven’t checked Tallahassee, which is where FSU and FAMU are, so there is potential there.

Anyway, thing is, I believe right wing operatives are absolutely out there specifically in Democrat controlled states exacerbating this nonsense. But you know what? The people they are deranging are still letting themselves be deliberately maddened. That makes them no less responsible than they would be if it was organic. Nobody could talk me into looting a store. No one could talk me into setting buildings and cars on fire. Then again I’m not a person with childhood neglect-induced intermittent explosive disorder and poor executive function due to the substandard education I received because my parents couldn’t be arsed to ensure I worked hard in school.

ETA: Also, $15m? If only my dad had been a criminal instead of a guy who never had so much as a parking ticket in his life, never made over $35k a year performing hard labor jobs, yet still managed to not steal, destroy property, or fail to support his family, maybe I too could make good lottery money off of his demise.

 

[#zzz]

source on pipebombs please, ive only seen Mortar fireworks used thus far

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1267946736024256522

 

[Shield Breaker]

Because they're arguing in Rhetoric and not Dialectic. The Left rarely engages in Dialectic. They engage in dishonest Rhetoric. They're not trying to be truthful. They're trying to lie for the sake of propaganda - and it's working. If you want to win you must be fluent in both Dialectic and Rhetoric and know when to use them. Rhetoric is okay as long as it's based in the truth.

Here's a decent primer. Read after the "SJWAL:" part (But skip the last paragraph): http://voxday.blogspot.com/2017/11/mailvox-still-not-getting-it.html



That just shows how bad the Conservatives are at Rhetoric. No matter how many black tokens they focus on they will never get black people to support them (And if they do the blacks that switched over would make the GOP even worse for its base). They'll also never stop the Left from calling them racist. The GOP needs to accuse The Left of being anti-white. The GOP needs to court white voters and become the party of white people or it will die. But most Conservatives would rather lose than become an evil pro-white.

It’s not supposed to get black people to support him. It is clearly aimed at normie centrists.

turns out all that head in the sand "i just want to grill" bullshit is a bad way of doing things. again, its just too bad shit didn't pop off 50 years ago. the GOP only survived this long because people were tired of the FDR dictatorship and they convinced Eisenhower to side with them. if Eisenhower went Dem, this same shit would be happening 60 year ago. with as little resistance. the military was never conservative the fact that no one disobeyed orders during eisenhower telling them to invade the south and uphold desegregation despite himself and his top brass being aganist it should tell you something

You have six months left on making good with your username.

 

[Evo]

Just admit you are a racist piece of shit that has fantasies about committing mass murder on black people.

lol what a little sophomoric faggot you are - we exist in the time of violent political pandering, and you're afraid of someone displaying the desire to take out their frustration on the looting class?

you have no place on either side - too much of a sophomoric faggot to align with the right, too much of a media-lurking autistic pussy to align with the left; people like you no longer belong, there is no middle-ground anymore; if you're incapable of fighting for either side, then just shut the fuck up, and die.

 

[#zzz]

know it's BuzzFeed, but they did a fairly decent article that seems to show a lot of these were left out by construction workers on the street. They even show how images of police allegedly placing them on the street are of them taking them away.

Bar a few instances of small man portable caches of bricks, I doubt it is anything but construction work. It would be too hard to organise and get away with it otherwise.

The question then is who is leaving crates of waterbottles in random places that the cops find and stab? Why are they stabbing the bottles? What are they being used for?

 

[Otterly]

I don't think Antifa is getting support from anyone. They are just a loosely linked hash tag group, who have a lot of money from mommy and daddy and wanna LARP that they are fighting some oppressive regime.

Very few terror groups have hierarchies like people imagine. There’s no head honcho CEO and a management chain. ISIS is probably one of the more classical run groups.
The most efficient way to run such a group is as a loosely connected group of cells surrounded by idiot hangers on who can be manipulated, and controlled by a small number of people with access to funding/connections/power structures.
Antifa are sufficiently organised to suspect a fair degree of funding flowing in. They’re certainly organised at least in some aspects from one or more nodes - just look at the signs in the protests. The majority in the ones I’ve seen over the last few days have the same sign material, paint material and handwriting within a local area. People aren’t bringing their own, they are being handed out. The language in the ‘spontaneous and Organic’ facebook /SM organising is the same. Not just in the buzzwords but the way it’s parsed. All very similar, handed on from a single or few sources.
It’s an efficient way to run a shady group.
The majority of members are the useful idiots who will protest at the drop of a hat. There will be infiltrators both from domestic security and from foreign power actors who like to stoke any kind of domestic unrest for their own agendas (‘look at America! Look at the state of it’ is always a valuable bit of propaganda.) and that alone will make them funded - there are plenty of foreign and domestic agents who benefit from internal unrest.
I have no doubt whatsoever that they’re organised at the core and linked in to other groups. Some strongly, like BLM/Antifa which share the same goals and just use different pressure points, and some more loosely.

I disagree with trump in a lot but designating antifa as a terrorist organisation was right. The only reason BLM aren’t as well is the racism angle and the duality between message and organisation makes it hard to criticise one without being seen to oppose the other.