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FuckedUp said:
Since we're talking about IQ again, lemme post some of my counterpoints to race realism:
  • Flynn Effect is obviously a side effect of changing living conditions, such as better nutrition and more focus on education
  • "culture-fair" parts of IQ tests like matrix reasoning are most affected by the Flynn Effect
  • Black kids are obviously on average at a disadvantage with living conditions, with things like poverty and being raised by single mothers
  • However related SAT scores are to IQ, black kids of any given income bracket are less motivated to score as high due to affirmative action, and are still affected by black culture which emphasizes different, less academic things
  • If anything, Africa's harsher living conditions should've made blacks evolve to be slightly more intelligent on average due to natural selection
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Also this.
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Blacks in France are the same as our American Negros.
This isn't even 2010 (current year -5),we're in 2020 (current year +5)
too much has occurred over the last 10 years to deny this ideas.
 
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BoxerShorts47 said:
did the civil rights liberals change anyones mind?
no.
they silenced the older generation by teaching kids to hate them through TV shows like "all in the family"
and brainwashed the youth through education.


fake news



finally a non shit post.
but these arguments are weaksauce.
I've heard them all before.

1 & 2. SAT tests are an acceptable proxy for IQ and the data is clear. https://escholarship.org/uc/item/9gs5v3pv The fact that UC system is going to drop test scores is proof positive that IQ is real and they have no way to "close the gap" through education. I think this is settled science at this point.
3. How come Asians have higher scores than white? And living conditions could be used to explain 1 generation's performance but not inter-generational. If you had bad parents, that'll really affect you at age 10 or 20 but as you get 30 or 40+ the effects of environment or early life decrease. You can go back to school, community college, browse github, etc. Look at Jews. They had discrimination against them, they had to create their own Jewish colleges and now they outperform whites just like Asians.
4. You're racist. Look you have to LOVE black culture. You got no right to criticize black culture using non afro-normative criteria because that's not being culturally relative and if you don't respect multiculturalism, that makes you racist.
5. No, having to plan for winter increased the natural selection for high time preference behavior,.

Now that I answered your question. I want you to answer 2 questions.

1. Is there ever a point when you admit that blacks are not the same as whites? Is there ever a point when you judge them based on the content of their character? Is there a point when you say diversity doesn't work?
2. Will you acknowledge that human sacrifices are part of your diversity experiment? That disproportionate white lives will be lost through black crime, brown crime or Muslin terrorism and likewise unnecessary blacks or Muslims will die when white nationalists get upset that their nation is being taken away and start to fight back?
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Prove you are in fact white then if it's fake news.

Civil rights liberals did in fact change peoples minds given that black people and women can vote.

You are deflecting, why are you, a non white trying to speak on behalf of white people? By your own arguments you are the problem. We don't need you to speak on our behalf.
 
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Ellesse_warrior said:
Prove you are in fact white then if it's fake news.

Civil rights liberals did in fact change peoples minds given that black people and women can vote.

You are deflecting, why are you, a non white trying to speak on behalf of white people? By your own arguments you are the problem. We don't need you to speak on our behalf.
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those policies were forced top down by the elites and people that refused were fired from their jobs just like now.
liberals win by doing a coup and then punishing anyone that disagrees through job loss or worse.
 
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BoxerShorts47 said:
those policies were forced top down by the elites and people that refused were fired from their jobs just like now.
liberals win by doing a coup and then punishing anyone that disagrees through job loss or worse.
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You're avoiding the important part of my post. You can't answer because you know you're wrong. You are not white and cannot speak for whites. It took you nearly an hour to respond too despite frequently looking at the thread. Your genius IQ is failing you.

Provide proof that civil rights were forced upon everyone by elites if that's the only question you're going to answer.
 
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Ellesse_warrior said:
You're avoiding the important part of my post. You can't answer because you know you're wrong. You are not white and cannot speak for whites. It took you nearly an hour to respond too despite frequently looking at the thread. Your genius IQ is failing you.

Provide proof that civil rights were forced upon everyone by elites if that's the only question you're going to answer.
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read.

liberals win through media deception that frames them as the good guy and then passing laws that make the cost of resisting them high (civil rights, equal rights, etc)
 
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BoxerShorts47 said:
read.

liberals win through media deception that frames them as the good guy and then passing laws that make the cost of resisting them high (civil rights, equal rights, etc)
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Your rambling thoughts are not proof, they are only your rambling thoughts. I'll remind you now that you still have not answered why you a non white are speaking on behalf of white people. You can think if that answer while your searching for proof that elites forced civil rights upon the people.
 
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I'm almost at 100 pages and 100 voters. I have a good sample size of this forum. I think I won this debate. If you have serious questions let me know. Else I'm not going to respond to shitposts and strawman arguments.

Ellesse_warrior said:
Your rambling thoughts are not proof, they are only your rambling thoughts. I'll remind you now that you still have not answered why you a non white are speaking on behalf of white people. You can think if that answer while your searching for proof that elites forced civil rights upon the people.
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blacks never voted to desegregate (open borders). it was forced by northern whites.
 
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BoxerShorts47 said:
I'm almost at 100 pages and 100 voters. I have a good sample size of this forum. I think I won this debate. If you have serious questions let me know. Else I'm not going to respond to shitposts and strawman arguments.
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You haven't answered anything I've asked you. You have deflected. My questions are genuine not shit posts. You are running away from reality like a coward. Saying I win like a spoiled baby.
 
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BoxerShorts47 said:
blacks never voted to desegregate (open borders). it was forced by northern whites.
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This is not proof. You are just saying things and expecting us all to believe you. This is the crux of why you cannot convert anyone to your cause.

Still avoiding the whiteness question I see.
 
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Draza said:
Rude? How so?
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all you do is interrogate me and disagree with me.
very rude person.

Ellesse_warrior said:
This is not proof. You are just saying things and expecting us all to believe you. This is the crux of why you cannot convert anyone to your cause.

Still avoiding the whiteness question I see.
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desegregating schools was ordered by SCOTUS and enforced by gun point. These were actions done by the liberal ruling elite.
 
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BoxerShorts47 said:
all you do is interrogate me and disagree with me.
very rude person.


desegregating schools was ordered by SCOTUS and enforced by gun point. These were actions done by the liberal ruling elite.
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Again this is no proof. Show me an article, show me anything other than your rambling words. As a self professed genius you should understand what I am asking for when I ask for proof of what you are saying.

I am still waiting for you to answer why you feel justified to speak on behalf of a race you are not. You are very obviously avoiding the question.
 
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