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You are wasting your finger breath. EDVS knows that TUG talked about his wife's miscarriage in public on twitter long before Nasser made the video. He knows TUG planned gayops with WC incessantly and gatekept creators away from Comicsgate. He knows TUG worked with WC repeatedly to dox customers.

None of that matters because TUG did not cost Ethan Fandom Menace money the way Ro and WC did.

It doesn't matter how fucking evil, worthless, slimey, two-faced TUG is. Frog's loyalty means that he has to support TUG's version of events as long as TUG is his whore, even when he knows that TUG is full of dog shit.

Know who butters your bread. It's purely financial.

Yeah, YOU retards are intimately aware of every detail of TUG's life.

Most people aren't. Most people (like me) don't care.

None of these people cost me money. Nasser and I made each other money. He was great on the show, and I promoted his comics and got them funded as best as I could. Nasser told me his side of the story too. It didn't make a difference. There were bigger problems brewing with Donal.

And he was still a regular on my show, kind of smugly, until Yellow Flash came in and bitched him out during a shill stream. Which was funny, but unfortunate.
 
Yeah, YOU retards are intimately aware of every detail of TUG's life.

What do you expect when tug posts every fucking detail of his life on Twitter. With the amount of tweets tug made you can make a biographical book, 2 biopics and a shitty direct to tv lifetime mini series of an shitty father tug is who uses his daughter to fight the "essjaydubbas".
 
You came here for attention and to talk about yourself. You're a fucking stupid cow and you and your mom are about to get doxed. Normally I wouldn't bother warning but I don't think you realize where you are. So Fuck you and your gay shitty ass books before you end up like Sheila Allen and Gat Hanzo.
Nasser showed how you were full of shit and all you've got left is "sandnigger" and threats aimed at his mom. That's some pathetic fuckin' shit right there.
 
Nasser showed how you were full of shit and all you've got left is "sandnigger" and threats aimed at his mom. That's some pathetic fuckin' shit right there.
We're dumping dox on cg spergs, so here's some fresh ones.
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YBZ still wants those CG outrage bucks. Pissing off CG--even if it's just Liam's tiny circle of spergs--isn't the way to get them. It's not that complex.

Cuckston obviously doesn't give a fuck--he has no dignity or shame--though why anyone with even a scintilla of talent--like Sashi--would want to be associated with a go-nowhere loser like him is a mystery.
YBZ is actually going for FM money by doing livestreams with the 200K+ subs youtubers like Nerdrotic and HeelvsBabyface and the rest of the people who did not go EVS and floundered in cow drama
 
I couldn't give a fuck less about whatever Nasser was doing with Peter Gilmore. I remember Nasser complaining about it and I think I advised him that Gilmore's asking a ridiculous amount of money made the project undoable. And I had to focus really hard on caring about that situation in order to give the kid advice at all. CGers are always getting into these fucked up deals and asking for judgments about them.

"Gayopping Nasser"? Ha ha ha fuck off.

Nasser was on the show because he was funny. He had no boundaries and said off the wall shit, the fans loved to hate him, and his writing contained explicit scenes of vomit eating.

He's no longer on the show because he got into squabbles with 4 other CGers that I know of for various reasons, and in one case, he made a video defending
I couldn't give a fuck less about whatever Nasser was doing with Peter Gilmore. I remember Nasser complaining about it and I think I advised him that Gilmore's asking a ridiculous amount of money made the project undoable. And I had to focus really hard on caring about that situation in order to give the kid advice at all. CGers are always getting into these fucked up deals and asking for judgments about them.

"Gayopping Nasser"? Ha ha ha fuck off.

Nasser was on the show because he was funny. He had no boundaries and said off the wall shit, the fans loved to hate him, and his writing contained explicit scenes of vomit eating.

He's no longer on the show because he got into squabbles with 4 other CGers that I know of for various reasons, and in one case, he made a video defending himself, which breached the confidence of one of them. Something very personal. Nasser sent me the video.

Nasser is mad at me because I told that person about his video and the breach of confidence, which he saw as a betrayal. And off he went.

If he contacted SJWs "behind my back" I didn't know or care. It was off my radar and wouldn't have been a concern.

As long as Nasser was turning in good performances on my show of being a weirdo, which he always did, he was always welcome.
Ethan likes to be disingenuous and make it seem like 48 year old tug came to 22 year old me for advice. He's over twice my age!

Ethan had changed the story on it what, 8 or 9 times now? Possibly even more.

Ethan knows all I did was read the dms verbatim for context, and ethan knows tug talked about his miscarriage publicly and that I did not reveal anything, but he'll never apologize. He can never admit when he's wrong.

Also, ethan is caught in a lie yet again: I did not tell him that was a betrayal and "went off". Ethan was looking for every single opportunity to kick me out--when I needed him most, during the tug/yf getting ducktor satan canceled drama, when wc lied calling me a doxxer (on a dream ethan was on), and when donal was trying to steal brutas, he turned on me. He's the one that told me I needed to go. Go back to page 965ish when I dropped the dms of all of ethan's different takes on the tug "situation". "Those cherries are ugly kid, you gotta go!"

ethan: I don't kick people out.
ethan: you gotta go!

when I needed my friend the most, he did not defend me. Instead he kept lying.
 
Yeah, Ethan is dumb and thinks that he can still lie repeatedly and gaslight people on how he isn't a scumbag who uses fallguys like TUG and WC to cripple people who outshine him and don't kiss the ring. It's all to avoid dealing with the fact he's an emotionally immature faggot who brought his toxic office methods (hilariously the same shit that he whined about when he got unpersoned too btw) into the movement. Like sure, paypigs will always fall for that bullshitting usually (until they get targeted like he did with WC lol), but the lie only works when people don't know you lie.

Once you're outed as a liar, your words lose most of their meaning. It's hilarious too given that again, he had prior movements that would've shown this if he looked to them for what NOT to do, but lol no. Ethan thought he could do it better because the idiot pros are that much dumber than the targets his forebears like Carl of Applebee's and the Boulder King had to deal with.
 
Wait, how fucking old is Martina? Because her husband's young as shit.
She was born July 10th 1985 so she's almost 35.
Her husband was banned from the United States of America for terrorism and his lawsuits to try to move to the USA were dismissed without the possibility of appeal. As far as I can tell they don't live together and she remains in the U.S.

Here's an article her husband wrote admitting to being a member of a terrorist organization and blaming the liberal establishment for driving him to extremism.
It makes me call into question her story that she was "doxed" by Antifa and blacklisted.
It looks like the alphabet agencies were in contact with British police and after he raised a stink about getting banned from America she got doxed from the legal documents.
It's illegal for immigrants on visa to plot or be a part of extremist political activities in the US. If the government suspects you of wanting to move to the US to establish yourself as a political extremist they can cancel your visa. Green card holders who get arrested during these George Floyd protests can get deported for the same reasons.

Her narrative that she was ousted "for being a trump supporter" is a total lie. She was ousted for far-right wing politics and marrying a neo-nazi.
 
Yeah, Ethan is dumb and thinks that he can still lie repeatedly and gaslight people on how he isn't a scumbag who uses fallguys like TUG and WC to cripple people who outshine him and don't kiss the ring. It's all to avoid dealing with the fact he's an emotionally immature faggot who brought his toxic office methods (hilariously the same shit that he whined about when he got unpersoned too btw) into the movement. Like sure, paypigs will always fall for that bullshitting usually (until they get targeted like he did with WC lol), but the lie only works when people don't know you lie.

Once you're outed as a liar, your words lose most of their meaning. It's hilarious too given that again, he had prior movements that would've shown this if he looked to them for what NOT to do, but lol no. Ethan thought he could do it better because the idiot pros are that much dumber than the targets his forebears like Carl of Applebee's and the Boulder King had to deal with.

He's a comic book artist who was stuck to his desk drawing. I don't think he knew his asshole from his dick enough to bother researching gay internet movements that precedes his attempt at one. Boomer'd in every sense of the word. The luck he had was that his opponents were soy-based communists, and even that's been dwindling as of late because they're more focused on virtue signaling on a global scale than going after CG, and tbh, all the livestreams that CGers do now can only devolve into ranting about the riots and ANTIFA, which is stupid, because I can easily actually go to channels or outlets designed for that. This would have been the best chance to actually go back to pretending they care about comics during the livestreams and try to make a profit. If anything should be learned from the livestream that Zack got brought onto with Nerdrotic, it's that Geek channels need to shut the fuck up about ranting on and on about politics, much like how no one goes to an actor for political opinions.

Her narrative that she was ousted "for being a trump supporter" is a total lie. She was ousted for far-right wing politics and marrying a neo-nazi.

Why is everyone's go to "I was ousted for being a Trump Supporter!" I mean, I know TDS is a thing, but seriously? People who say this are just equally as bad as the other side in contributing to the problems of turning it all into a black and white situation, when really once you peel through the lies, it's all much more grey.
 
"Gayopping Nasser"? Ha ha ha fuck off.

He's no longer on the show because he got into squabbles with 4 other CGers that I know of for various reasons, and in one case, he made a video defending himself, which breached the confidence of one of them. Something very personal. Nasser sent me the video.

Nasser is mad at me because I told that person about his video and the breach of confidence, which he saw as a betrayal. And off he went.
You insult our intelligence @FROG, you are aware that Nasser already made public here the details surrounding his departure from Comicsgate.
@FROG I found the parts in your stream where you lie about me, about 2 hours and 25 minutes in.

first he says I spread info about tug's miscarriage. Here is tug talking publicly about it before that video was ever made (and the miscarriage was not a plot point, tug had brought it up during an argument). Ethan acts as if tug was confiding in me or asking me for advice or something.

This is how you know their story is bs: what do I gain from talking about his miscarriage? I was talking in the video about how he was getting int he way of my now canceled comic Ducktor Satan, and the miscarriage was used as some sort of guilt trip by tug, but ethan and everyone loves to twist it.

And here he is changing his story on it a trillion times in some additional dms. These dms are from a few different points in time but they start after I had sent him the hour-long video explaining why I was stepping away from comics.

He also tried to say in his stream he showed it to tug, when really he showed it to his entire group chat and they started to share it around and clip it. Notice in the stream ethan says "i showed it to tug" but int some of these dms he says "tug showed it to me."

How would tug see it if i never sent it to tug? how would he show it to ethan? ethan is a liar. This was all used to smear me because they had nothing factual to smear me with.
He was even kind enough to provide receipts, which I will summarize below.
Below we can clearly see TUG announcing his wive's miscarriage on June 8th of 2019
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This is a screenshot of the infamous video in question, uploaded June 23rd of 2019, over two weeks later.
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Here you are watching the video and agreeing with Nasser privately that it was disgusting the way he was treated.
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Seems you were "excited" to get to the TUG part for some reason.

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Here you admit you gave Donal a talking to after agreeing with Nasser that he was mistreated.
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All of a sudden what Nasser said about TUG's wife is "problematic" and you reveal your true reason for wanting to get rid of Nasser, which was his association to Midnight Cherry and his followers who had taken to trolling you online.
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Below Nasser disputes that he ever made fun of TUG for his wife's miscarriage and claims that Yellowflash and TUG are lying about him. You even claim you didn't hear it yourself, you believed the words of others.
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Again below you admit below that you took the word of Donal and TUG, two individuals who were currently feuding with Nasser, over Nasser himself. You also grill Nasser about the leaked Ben Henderson DMs- WHICH WILL BE SPOILERED BELOW.
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The TLDR is Ben Henderson warned Nasser in private DMs citing Ethan and Warcampaign as a problem, for some reason Nasser leaked these DMs to the general public.


Ethan is confronted by Nasser for lying about TUG's miscarriage, Ethan feigns ignorance and claims to be "on Nasser's side" after helping destroy him.

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The final part of the DM's, Nasser asserts he was clipped out of context and Ethan reaffirms his position towards TUG.
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As we can see from the evidence presented so far it is strongly in favor of @NasserRabadi13 at this point, although I would ask Nasser why he leaked against Ben Henderson, when Ben was clearly trying to warn him about Ethan and Warcampaign? Kind of ironic that Nasser was loyal to Ethan to the end in outing Ben as a potential problem, yet Ethan did not reciprocate that loyalty in kind.

@FROG do you dispute this version of events? Can you provide receipts to back up your claims? Or will you continue to treat kiwifarms like your twitter and youtube comments section, a trough for you to dump your slop and expect us to lap it all up like your pathetic squealing paypigs?

The ultimate evidence is the video in question, which has yet to be presented to the kiwicourt. I submit to both parties that this matter will not be resolved until it is made public, so the farms can decide for itself.

🔨Court is in recess.
 
You insult our intelligence @FROG, you are aware that Nasser already made public here the details surrounding his departure from Comicsgate.

He was even kind enough to provide receipts, which I will summarize below.
Below we can clearly see TUG announcing his wive's miscarriage on June 8th of 2019
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This is a screenshot of the infamous video in question, uploaded June 23rd of 2019, over two weeks later.
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Here you are watching the video and agreeing with Nasser privately that it was disgusting the way he was treated.
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Seems you were "excited" to get to the TUG part for some reason.

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Here you admit you gave Donal a talking to after agreeing with Nasser that he was mistreated.
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All of a sudden what Nasser said about TUG's wife is "problematic" and you reveal your true reason for wanting to get rid of Nasser, which was his association to Midnight Cherry and his followers who had taken to trolling you online.
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Below Nasser disputes that he ever made fun of TUG for his wife's miscarriage and claims that Yellowflash and TUG are lying about him. You even claim you didn't hear it yourself, you believed the words of others.
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Again below you admit below that you took the word of Donal and TUG, two individuals who were currently feuding with Nasser, over Nasser himself. You also grill Nasser about the leaked Ben Henderson DMs- WHICH WILL BE SPOILERED BELOW.
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The TLDR is Ben Henderson warned Nasser in private DMs citing Ethan and Warcampaign as a problem, for some reason Nasser leaked these DMs to the general public.


Ethan is confronted by Nasser for lying about TUG's miscarriage, Ethan feigns ignorance and claims to be "on Nasser's side" after helping destroy him.

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The final part of the DM's, Nasser asserts he was clipped out of context and Ethan reaffirms his position towards TUG.
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As we can see from the evidence presented so far it is strongly in favor of @NasserRabadi13 at this point, although I would ask Nasser why he leaked against Ben Henderson, when Ben was clearly trying to warn him about Ethan and Warcampaign? Kind of ironic that Nasser was loyal to Ethan to the end in outing Ben as a potential problem, yet Ethan did not reciprocate that loyalty in kind.

@FROG do you dispute this version of events? Can you provide receipts to back up your claims? Or will you continue to treat kiwifarms like your twitter and youtube comments section, a trough for you to dump your slop and expect us to lap it all up like your pathetic squealing paypigs?

The ultimate evidence is the video in question, which has yet to be presented to the kiwicourt. I submit to both parties that this matter will not be resolved until it is made public, so the farms can decide for itself.

🔨Court is in recess.
The Ben dms were made public because he was going around twitter claiming ignorance of wc and said he didn't know what they were up to. It was pissing me off so I leaked them. I've apologized to Ben since then and he's apologized to me.

I will make the video public in the future, but for now here's a tweet of mine where I show that exact clip from the video though: https://twitter.com/NasserRabadi13/status/1144739594962948099?s=20

I disproved ethan with video evidence and everyone still believes him.

EDIT: typo.
 
The Ben dms were made public because he was going around twitter claiming ignorance of wc and said he didn't know what they were up to. It was pissing me off so I leaked them. I've apologized to Ben since then and he's apologized to me.
Understandable, however given how Warcampaign and Ethan operate you can probably understand that Ben was trying to protect his business? Those who publicly go against Ethan and WC normally aren't very successful outside of Comicsgate once exiled, something I'm sure you are familiar with now.
I will make the video public in the future, but for now here's a tweet of mine where I show that exact clip from the video though: https://twitter.com/NasserRabadi13/status/1144739594962948099?s=20

I disproved ethan with video evidence and everyone still believes him.
The court accepts the evidence in question and will save and file it here, for prosperity.
















EDIT: Added archive.
 
Understandable, however given how Warcampaign and Ethan operate you can probably understand that Ben was trying to protect his business? Those who publicly go against Ethan and WC normally aren't very successful outside of Comicsgate once exiled, something I'm sure you are familiar with now.

The court accepts the evidence in question and will save and file it here, for prosperity.
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The Ben situation was weird. If he wanted to protect his business, there were better ways to do it than defending harassers, claiming ignorance, saying wc/ethan did nothing wrong, then behind their backs telling people how bad wc/ethan were.

I just didn't like the hypocrisy, called him out on it, but like I said, me and him talked and apologized to each other, so we're good now.
 
He's a comic book artist who was stuck to his desk drawing. I don't think he knew his asshole from his dick enough to bother researching gay internet movements that precedes his attempt at one. Boomer'd in every sense of the word. The luck he had was that his opponents were soy-based communists, and even that's been dwindling as of late because they're more focused on virtue signaling on a global scale than going after CG, and tbh, all the livestreams that CGers do now can only devolve into ranting about the riots and ANTIFA, which is stupid, because I can easily actually go to channels or outlets designed for that. This would have been the best chance to actually go back to pretending they care about comics during the livestreams and try to make a profit. If anything should be learned from the livestream that Zack got brought onto with Nerdrotic, it's that Geek channels need to shut the fuck up about ranting on and on about politics, much like how no one goes to an actor for political opinions.



Why is everyone's go to "I was ousted for being a Trump Supporter!" I mean, I know TDS is a thing, but seriously? People who say this are just equally as bad as the other side in contributing to the problems of turning it all into a black and white situation, when really once you peel through the lies, it's all much more grey.
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She's complaining that someone self inserted into her self-insert comic.
A buzz feed article talking about Martina's association with the Pizzagate conspiracy in a video produced by the Proud Boys.
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Thirst trapping at it's finest.

Ethan promoting a satanic comic for a pizzagate conspiritard and known affiliate of the Proud Boys hate group.
Martina had her bank account closed for being a member of a hate group.
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She was blacklisted for appearing with the proud boys and hanging out with Gavin Minnesota.

So how does a Proud Boys affiliate married to a foreign neo-nazi become part of Comicsgrift? Why does Ethan support a white nationalist when he excommunicates Smiller for saying "pride is sin" no one really knows.

Martina has been featured in the now defunct Proud Boys magazine when her husband was the EIC.

The one thing I do know is this likely had very little to do with "supporting Trump" and everything to do with hanging on to tards like Milo and the PB.
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Can't really blame the original artist if this is the way the comic was supposed to go. The upright burning cross is something straight out of a klan rally and this is some kind of satanic ritual going on.
Was -this- book even worth saving? She's raised 50k on IGG to print this garbage.
I see a lot of CG hanger ons promoting this because Martinas entire twitter is an alt-right thirst trap.
How many people want a comic about a satanic burlesque dancer VS. Trying to pwn the SJW's by mindlessly backing another "CG" project.
 
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She's complaining that someone self inserted into her self-insert comic.
A buzz feed article talking about Martina's association with the Pizzagate conspiracy in a video produced by the Proud Boys.
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Thirst trapping at it's finest.

Ethan promoting a satanic comic for a pizzagate conspiritard and known affiliate of the Proud Boys hate group.
Martina had her bank account closed for being a member of a hate group.
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She was blacklisted for appearing with the proud boys and hanging out with Gavin Minnesota.

So how does a Proud Boys affiliate married to a foreign neo-nazi become part of Comicsgrift? Why does Ethan support a white nationalist when he excommunicates Smiller for saying "pride is sin" no one really knows.

Martina has been featured in the now defunct Proud Boys magazine when her husband was the EIC.

The one thing I do know is this likely had very little to do with "supporting Trump" and everything to do with hanging on to tards like Milo and the PB.
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Can't really blame the original artist if this is the way the comic was supposed to go. The upright burning cross is something straight out of a klan rally and this is some kind of satanic ritual going on.
Was -this- book even worth saving? She's raised 50k on IGG to print this garbage.
I see a lot of CG hanger ons promoting this because Martinas entire twitter is an alt-right thirst trap.
How many people want a comic about a satanic burlesque dancer VS. Trying to pwn the SJW's by mindlessly backing another "CG" project.

Wait, so which is Martina, White Supremacist, or White Nationalist? There's a difference between the two.

I assume the reasoning for picking up Markota is because her narrative coincides with Ethan's. The problem with "I was ousted for being a Trump Supporter!" narrative is that once the lie breaks down, it leaves both party to look particularly stupid, and even moreso on Ethan's side than anything because it really means he doesn't know what politics even is about at this point since he can't see beyond the narrative they're trying to play.

And it's a women willing to strip herself, so I think that helps with his tendency to hide his homosexuality factor. Throw nekkid women at the paypigs, and the paypigs will throw money at you.
 
I couldn't give a fuck less about whatever Nasser was doing with Peter Gilmore. I remember Nasser complaining about it and I think I advised him that Gilmore's asking a ridiculous amount of money made the project undoable. And I had to focus really hard on caring about that situation in order to give the kid advice at all.
You claimed Nasser as your "friend" at the time. You go on and on about how much you care for your friends but you can't be bothered to get the facts straight before you kick one to the curb over bullshit?

As long as Nasser was turning in good performances on my show of being a weirdo, which he always did, he was always welcome.
This gets closer to the truth but there is still something missing.

Yeah, YOU retards are intimately aware of every detail of TUG's life.

Most people aren't. Most people (like me) don't care.
Touchy. Kiwi Farmers aren't the retards in this interaction.

Your mask is slipping Ethan. You "cared" enough about TUGs obvious bullshit grievance to expel your "friend" Nasser over it but not enough to verify the bullshit story. But that's not the what was really going on either is it?

And he was still a regular on my show, kind of smugly, until Yellow Flash came in and bitched him out during a shill stream. Which was funny, but unfortunate.
YF was just doing gay shit for TUG as those two fags tend to do. But you knew that at the time.

Nasser told me his side of the story too. It didn't make a difference. There were bigger problems brewing with Donal.
Now we're getting to the meat.

Donal had a deal with WarCampaign for Vestige and he wanted to get rid of Nasser and keep the Brutas IP for himself. WarCampaign didn't like Nasser because he still associated with Midnight Cherry (whom you later compared rather hilariously to a Nazi). Time for the gay ops to begin.

So TUG, who has been proven to work very closely, with WC starts pouring poison in Gilmore's ear about Nasser and his pet YellowFash backs whatever bullshit to drive it home.

Nasser of course finds out and calls out TUG and TUG plays the victim card as usual. God TUG wears a cross like a back pack and loves it.

You side with TUG even though his complaint was pure bulllshit because this isn't about TUG. It's about WarCampaign, Donal Delay and Vestige. Nasser's got to go and any excuse will do. You obviously coordinated this before the show because Malin and the rest are on board to throw Nasser under a bus without the facts.

The any excuse thing is pretty common with you. Nerkish had to go because edge lords were making holocaust jokes on a Discord no one had ever heard of. Wasn't that around the time you started inviting neo-Nazi wife Martina Markota on stream to squeeze her tits together and claim victim status to sell her self insert vanity garbage comic?

Mike had to go because of an edgy Pride tweet no one noticed but at the time you were singing the praises of your harassment warriors who weaponize gay shit as their chosen method of attack.

What was the excuse for booting Tim? Any receipts for that one?

Your excuses for fucking over your friends are weak but you still fuck them over. It's your hard luck that not everyone is so smooth brained that they buy the bullshit excuses.

I would ask Nasser why he leaked against Ben Henderson, when Ben was clearly trying to warn him about Ethan and Warcampaign? Kind of ironic that Nasser was loyal to Ethan to the end in outing Ben as a potential problem, yet Ethan did not reciprocate that loyalty in kind.
Ben's a snake. If Ben was warning him Nasser couldn't trust it. I think Nasser honestly believed Ethan was his friend at the time. Ethan's good at snowing people and pretending he gives a fuck if they live or die.

Turns out Ben was telling the truth and as Ethan admitted above he didn't actually give a fuck about his "friends".

Unlucky.
 
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