Akilah Hughes v. Carl Benjamin (2017)

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If I recall correctly the jurisdiction is NY, right? I dont remember if NY gas any anti-SLAAP laws, but I remember their standard of proof for defamation was higher than most other jurisdictions.

Right, it's SDNY. I know that but keep talking about it like it's in California. NY has no effective anti-SLAPP statute, and it wouldn't apply to this case.
 
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Right, it's SDNY. I know that but keep talking about it like it's in California. NY has no effective anti-SLAPP statute, and it wouldn't apply to this case.
Yeah, it's kind of weird why Akilah decided to file in NY, unless of course it was the most convenient forum for her at the time. I'm pretty sure the 2nd Circuit has a more expansive definition of Fair use than the 9th too, but don't quote me on it.
 
Yeah, it's kind of weird why Akilah decided to file in NY, unless of course it was the most convenient forum for her at the time. I'm pretty sure the 2nd Circuit has a more expansive definition of Fair use than the 9th too, but don't quote me on it.

If you're filing a blatant SLAPP suit, filing it somewhere without an anti-SLAPP makes sense. Also Hughes lives in New York.
 
What the Fuck is it with Black Women? Why do they seem to be hardwired to have no impulse control? No ability to look at their selected course of action, and work through how it might not be in their best interests? Be it fucking a worthless ghetto rat bareback, or publicly throwing rocks at and fucking with the guy who just beat you in court, before the Judge rules on how much you owe?
Daddy Issues. Single parents don't make good teachers.
 
Akilah is pressuring YouTube to remove Sargon from their site while we await the judge's ruling on how much she has to pay him for her failure of a lawsuit.

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Isnt fair use very well defined?

Also whats stopping her from making videos on Youtube?

He's already filed for his costs and fees in this case under federal law. If he wins that it would be duplicative to file an additional suit and it's not certain he could use state anti-SLAPP laws in federal court anyway. If he sues for defamation, that would be a separate suit.
If he files an supplement with this stuff in it, would that help him in a future suit? Like could he use this suit to authenticate the evidence?
 
Isnt fair use very well defined?
Not really. There's several landmark cases which have defined certain types of speech (like satire, parody) as objectively fair use, but there's still a lot of legal gray area surrounding it, especially in what qualifies as satire or parody. Moreover, Copyright law is also highly variable based on what circuit you're in, so California and New York have differentiation in terms of what they consider to be fair use. Finally, certain aspects of fair use are only applicable to educational and non-profit institutions, and are only available if the use meets certain very high bars.
 
Akilah is pressuring YouTube to remove Sargon from their site while we await the judge's ruling on how much she has to pay him for her failure of a lawsuit.

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I love how she's so fucking stupid she still doesn't understand why she lost the case, despite it having been explained directly to her by the judge at least once. And probably by her lawyer and now, every fucking internet vlog lawyer from everywhere in the United States and tons of them from outside of the country have explained it in countless videos on youtube. And she still, despite having such a shitty fucking case thinks she lost on a technicality and not the fact her understanding of the world is less than that of the average developmentally challenged third grader.
 
I love how she's so fucking stupid she still doesn't understand why she lost the case, despite it having been explained directly to her by the judge at least once. And probably by her lawyer and now, every fucking internet vlog lawyer from everywhere in the United States and tons of them from outside of the country have explained it in countless videos on youtube. And she still, despite having such a shitty fucking case thinks she lost on a technicality and not the fact her understanding of the world is less than that of the average developmentally challenged third grader.
lolcow thread when? Also was she in attendance when the judge explained it or was it just her lawyer?
 
lolcow thread when? Also was she in attendance when the judge explained it or was it just her lawyer?

I don't think she was but she no doubt was handed the piece of paper with the Judge's decision. Maybe she just didn't read it or it was too confusing for her since it was longer than a tweet. I could totally see her being like 'Yo, this is like, too long. Can you like just you know, stop and just tell me how much money Sargon owes me?' over and over again until her lawyer wants to kill themselves. In minecraft.
 
To sue the absolute pants off her for defamation. It wouldn't even be a hard case to win, he has AMPLE evidence she posted HERSELF for it.
defamation suits are extremely hard to prove and win, even in apparent clear cut cases.

Also whats stopping her from making videos on Youtube?
Embarrassment that she can never have comments on unless she wants to spend 3 hours a day periodically removing all mention of Sargon, Lawsuits and “I don’t give a fuck if he has a family”
 
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defamation suits are extremely hard to prove and win, even in apparent clear cut cases.


Embarrassment that she can never have comments on unless she wants to spend 3 hours a day periodically removing all mention of Sargon, Lawsuits and “I don’t give a fuck if he has a family”
In this case... not really. She can't have him labeled a public figure, since he is neither a general purpose nor limited purpose public figure. She is attacking him as a content creator, but that has specifically been rejected in the courts as reason sufficient onto itself. Even if he somehow were, Actual malice is really easy to prove her, since she has EXPLICITLY said her purpose is to ruin him, damn the facts.

That right there removes the biggest hurdle.

From there, has she inflicted damages? Yes, and outright said she wants to do more.

Has she defamed him? Yes, calling someone a Nazi or fascist was the issue at core in a supreme court ruling.

While you are right that defamation suits are generally hard to prove and win, this stupid, stupid bitch has outright said, publicly, everything needed to not only prove every single element of the suit, but to do so with such clear cut evidence that the initial pleadings alone would be sufficient. That takes some amazing work to fuck up that bad.
 
Actual malice is really easy to prove her, since she has EXPLICITLY said her purpose is to ruin him, damn the facts.

That right there removes the biggest hurdle.

From there, has she inflicted damages? Yes, and outright said she wants to do more.

Has she defamed him? Yes, calling someone a Nazi or fascist was the issue at core in a supreme court ruling.
She admitted critical elements of the offense? Out of her own mouth?

This bitch is a lolcow.
 
She admitted critical elements of the offense? Out of her own mouth?

This bitch is a lolcow.
Not just out of her own mouth, in writing, in tweets, for the world to see.
 
When someone tells me they want to sue for defamation, the first thing I tell them is "I won't do it without at least $10k for a retainer." Defamation suits are a rich man's game.
Agreed, but Sargon does have a warchest, albeit a small one, since Akilah is definitely going to be paying his fees for THIS suit.... Its why her running her mouth off kinda baffles me.She has given him the means to, for very little risk to himself, just hammer her.
 
Agreed, but Sargon does have a warchest, albeit a small one, since Akilah is definitely going to be paying his fees for THIS suit.... Its why her running her mouth off kinda baffles me.She has given him the means to, for very little risk to himself, just hammer her.
But he's unlikely to get attorney fees on the defamation case, and may not be able to show much in the way of actual damages (being a white supremacist is not actually a crime, so it's not defamation per se with the accompanying presumed damages), so it's probably a net loss monetarily. If the suit isn't going to get you more than it costs, you're spending a lot of money for the satisfaction of the court saying that the defendant was wrong; hence, a rich man's game.
 
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But he's unlikely to get attorney fees on the defamation case, and may not be able to show much in the way of actual damages (being a white supremacist is not actually a crime, so it's not defamation per se with the accompanying presumed damages), so it's probably a net loss monetarily. If the suit isn't going to get you more than it costs, you're spending a lot of money for the satisfaction of the court saying that the defendant was wrong; hence, a rich man's game.
Actually... it is. One category of Defemation per Se in new York law is

" Stating false facts that tend to injure a plaintiff in his or her business trade or profession"

This is overtly and explicitly what she is doing, this is literally what she has SAID she is doing, and calling someone a Nazi counts as a false fact which is provable as false.
 
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Actually... it is. One category of Defemation per Se in new York law is

" Stating false facts that tend to injure a plaintiff in his or her business trade or profession"

This is overtly and explicitly what she is doing, this is literally what she has SAID she is doing, and calling someone a Nazi counts as a false fact which is provable as false.

Um, I hate to tell you this, but Sargon going into court and trying to prove he's not a racist may not go as smoothly as you think.
 
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