Debate user BoxerShorts47 on "strawmans" and logical fallacies, definitions of ephebophilia, how to MAGA, religion, Sailor Moon and more


Addressing your points in order:
1) Racial paranoia exists across all given ethnic groups, and in most cases is distilled down to what they are really - honest mistakes.
2) This does happen, sure, but said innocent people are often found to be guilty of massive powerleveling and lolcow-worthy behaviour that wouldn't endear them to even members of their own race. Most consequences of these false positives would be attributed to the actions of perpetrators, not their racial identity.
3) PCness has always existed in one form or another. In actual polite societies this would be called social decorum, i.e. responsibility of the individual member for respectful interaction.
4) This phenomenon is not just limited to whites and is more often than not precipitated by local economic decline via external/national factors. Demographic exodus is a result as other neighbouring locales gentrify and become respectable.
5) This has been proven to be demonstrably false elsewhere on this forum.
Conclusion: Diversity is a flawed system and does not necessarily work in all cases, but like all policy has borne fruit elsewhere, like in the multicultural community policies of Australia and other places in the aftermath of the collapse of their white-dominant social policies.

Fortune 500: If you had bothered to look at the leadership stats for all five years that Apple is tracking (presumably where your argument is), you'll see that there has been no discernible change in those years with consistent 70% occupation. Also Apple does not stand as an absolute representation of the Fortune 500 - it is a nice piece of the pack, but it is not the whole pack.

Universities: Same deal, UCB is just one campus among thousands in the country. One campus the entire country does not make.

Demographic change: That's a statistical projection of demographic trends, not absolute truth of the future. Percentages are also deceiving - immigration is pushing the total number up and therefore conflating the percentages. The number of whites isn't decreasing, its lead is just narrowing as immigrants settle and populate.

I know I probably fucked up by even giving this reply but what the fuck. One should always fight fire with fire.
Hell, it's pearls before swine with @BoxerShorts47 but I enjoy reading these long posts.
 
There is no such thing as winning an internet debate. By participating you lose automatically. By making an account on KF you lose automatically. We are all losers here, Bewxer.
No. Negative Thinking.
This is warm-up for the real world. If you can beat people online (which usually means they make strawman arguments), you develop exp.
You can leverage this exp IRL.
it takes a lot of practice to flush our your ideas, to develop responses, to test the best responses.
If right wing ideas weren't totally banned, you could make a good living simply from viewer donations.

If you don't want to be part of the community (then why are you even here?), and refusing to acknowledge that the general user should be at least in the same ballpark when it comes to forum culture, wouldn't that make you asking different peoples to change their behaviors IRL hypocritical?
Is this an echo chamber?
Why would i go back to the same beliefs I had in 2016?
Your culture is backwards.
Stuck in the past.


Weren't there certain behaviors they engaged in that you find bad? Don't you feel that you are perhaps repeating similar patterns as them?
From what I saw so far I think your interests are too narrow. "muh politics", that's all? There are many exceptional individuals worth checking out, hobbies to do etc. Unless you do have some? Why not share with the class?
Again this tone garbage? Look if someone offered you 1 million dollars, you wouldn't care about their tone. The reason they lost is because they didn't have the right ideas.
I used to do JDM Engine Swaps. 2JZ-GTE VVT-i.

Eh, power leveling is not my game. But to make you feel more eased up, it is easy.
Form communities, build up economic and social capital, worry about big global things out of my reach later.
Also known as make friends, Twilight.
so run away?
and no you cannot do that because you'll be deplatformed and fired from your job for wrongthink.

To be honest, @BoxerShorts47 what you need is a friend not a manifesto.
If you weren't lonely, you wouldn't made pseudo-friends with people here and kept returning to this thread.

I don't talk with much "muh politics" with you for three reasons:
  • This forum is not the place for it
  • Power leveling is a bad practice
  • You are here to talk, fair and square
strawman. the issue here isn't a "friend." I got a friend. The issue here is these are real problems and they must be addressed.
 
Is this an echo chamber?
Why would i go back to the same beliefs I had in 2016?
Your culture is backwards.
Stuck in the past.
If you had any sort of social skills you would see that a group is based on enforced values and rules. Every society is an echo chamber.
Or perhaps are you advocating for an open society? hmm, maybe you were the liberal all along.

strawman. the issue here isn't a "friend." I got a friend. The issue here is these are real problems and they must be addressed.
Not a strawman*, a genuine concern. If you want to advance these problems, then why are you here?
You are forcing a round peg into a square hole, for a week. Have you not noticed that it is not working?

He had some chicken friends, but a black woman ate them. This is what triggered his quest to lead white supremacy.
I caused that feel, but a nibba gotta eat.

*
noun: strawman
an intentionally misrepresented proposition that is set up because it is easier to defeat than an opponent's real argument.
 
No. Negative Thinking.
This is warm-up for the real world. If you can beat people online (which usually means they make strawman arguments), you develop exp.
You can leverage this exp IRL.
it takes a lot of practice to flush our your ideas, to develop responses, to test the best responses.
If right wing ideas weren't totally banned, you could make a good living simply from viewer donations.
1. You're not beating anyone. You got defeated by a schizophrenic and an autist, as someone here mentioned the other day
2. You're not going to find alt right simps here
3. Living off of donations is pathetic
 
I love how he had the time to respond to all of you except for me. That should say something significant.
He's. A. Coward. If he thinks you're actually addressing his points and he's not immediately confident he knows the tack to take to "win" the argument, he'll just ignore you and hope no one brings it up again.
 
He's. A. Coward. If he thinks you're actually addressing his points and he's not immediately confident he knows the tack to take to "win" the argument, he'll just ignore you and hope no one brings it up again.

Yeah, I figured as much. Keep smashing it in his face for me, won't you all? I'd like to see this nonsense wrapped up when I wake up.
 
Remember how he bragged about having zero people blocked?

Also I find highly optimistic that you think universities will give a plataform to someone that wants to kill all non-whites(which is what will happen to everyone that doesnt want to be deported),even if that did'nt disqualified you from ever being given a plataform you have no acomplishments that merit you being there,you are literally a unemployed,incel,flip that hasnt left the house in years and you spend all your time on Pol and watching youtube videos.

By the way lol at your idea of research,you are too lazy and stupid to read books so you have 100 tabs open of youtube videos made by pundits with no acomplishments(such as yourself) as a substitute. Read a fucking book you fucking NEET incel,I know siting down for hours focusing on something is something your dopamime seeking brain so used to videogames,social media and porn is not used to,but I assure you its a much better way of learning that watching Sargon and Nick fuentes.

Everyone sees you as what you truly are,a NEET,faggot,incel,brown roleplaying as white retard with a sub-standard IQ that is so narcissistic that instead of admitting that you are a failure because you are lazy you concocted a view of the world where everything wrong is the fault of someone else(examples:"I cant get a woman because of feminism", "Im unemployed because of diversity hires",etc.). Fix your dopamine addicted brain(thats why you care so much about stickies),stop spending all day on the internet,get a job,get some excersice,work on self improvement,get a friend chicken if you want company,but please,stop with your faggy grandiose delusions,they are just a way of avoiding your sad reality,you will never be a famous political leader leading us to a superior future when you cant even clean your room.
 
No. Negative Thinking.
This is warm-up for the real world. If you can beat people online (which usually means they make strawman arguments), you develop exp.
You can leverage this exp IRL.
it takes a lot of practice to flush our your ideas, to develop responses, to test the best responses.
If right wing ideas weren't totally banned, you could make a good living simply from viewer donations.


Is this an echo chamber?
Why would i go back to the same beliefs I had in 2016?
Your culture is backwards.
Stuck in the past.



Again this tone garbage? Look if someone offered you 1 million dollars, you wouldn't care about their tone. The reason they lost is because they didn't have the right ideas.
I used to do JDM Engine Swaps. 2JZ-GTE VVT-i.


so run away?
and no you cannot do that because you'll be deplatformed and fired from your job for wrongthink.


strawman. the issue here isn't a "friend." I got a friend. The issue here is these are real problems and they must be addressed.
You attributed two quotes to me in this that aren't mine. I only say "muh politics" unironically. Hurt and offended. I require $4000 to be sent to my Venmo immediate.

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Addressing your points in order:
1) Racial paranoia exists across all given ethnic groups, and in most cases is distilled down to what they are really - honest mistakes.
Okay so you admit that a diverse society will always have racial paranoia (racism)? yes or no. Lower trust society.

2) This does happen, sure, but said innocent people are often found to be guilty of massive powerleveling and lolcow-worthy behaviour that wouldn't endear them to even members of their own race. Most consequences of these false positives would be attributed to the actions of perpetrators, not their racial identity.
So you admit that diversity requires human sacrifices? Innocent people will be found accidentally guilty. This is the price to pay for diversity.

3) PCness has always existed in one form or another. In actual polite societies this would be called social decorum, i.e. responsibility of the individual member for respectful interaction.
Political Correctness is explicitly from the Civil Rights Act. Any group that becomes a protected class gets negative speech about them de facto banned because that speech can be used against the speaker in discrimination lawsuit, Polite speech is not the same as political correctness. It's not impolite to warm people about danger like disproportionate black or Muslim crime.

4) This phenomenon is not just limited to whites and is more often than not precipitated by local economic decline via external/national factors. Demographic exodus is a result as other neighbouring locales gentrify and become respectable.
The native Americans red flighted when settlers arrived until they could no longer flight and had to fight post trans-pacific railroad. Not caused by "economic decline" caused by diversity, people feel like their community is gone. Why do all ethnic groups in America self segregate? Why do prisoners self segregate? Natural order. You deny this because of your equality religion.

5) This has been proven to be demonstrably false elsewhere on this forum.
You mean true. FBI crime stats show blacks committing more crime.

Conclusion: Diversity is a flawed system and does not necessarily work in all cases, but like all policy has borne fruit elsewhere, like in the multicultural community policies of Australia and other places in the aftermath of the collapse of their white-dominant social policies.

Total bullist. You're lying, Diversity destroys local communities which is why all liberals agree that non whites deserve indigenous rights.

Fortune 500: If you had bothered to look at the leadership stats for all five years that Apple is tracking (presumably where your argument is), you'll see that there has been no discernible change in those years with consistent 70% occupation. Also Apple does not stand as an absolute representation of the Fortune 500 - it is a nice piece of the pack, but it is not the whole pack.

Universities: Same deal, UCB is just one campus among thousands in the country. One campus the entire country does not make.

Demographic change: That's a statistical projection of demographic trends, not absolute truth of the future. Percentages are also deceiving - immigration is pushing the total number up and therefore conflating the percentages. The number of whites isn't decreasing, its lead is just narrowing as immigrants settle and populate.

I know I probably fucked up by even giving this reply but what the fuck. One should always fight fire with fire.

Lying through your teeth.

1. All corporations and universities brag about diversity aka hiring or admitting less whites
2. Demographic change is a caused by liberal policies of open borders. You are denying whites a home and forcing diversity onto white people.
3. Whites are creasing as a number of the total population too, largely because of feminism.

Your arguments are total shit. You're agreeing with me than saying "well so what" or just lying about the data.
Real downsides, real grievances and your answer is "so what, diversity is still good,"
Religious Dogma.
 
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