Debate user BoxerShorts47 on "strawmans" and logical fallacies, definitions of ephebophilia, how to MAGA, religion, Sailor Moon and more

Stop discriminating against the blind, you asshole.
ya exactly.
all civil rights or social justice liberalism boil down to:
>group x is unhappy by your actions
>accommodate them
>you're mean if you refuse.
starts with blacks -> feminists -> jews & catholics -> gays -> illegals -> muslims -> fat/able/criminal/etc.
always the same MO.
In the end, you lose your free-will, you lose your culture, and your society often turns to shit.
 
ya exactly.
all civil rights or social justice liberalism boil down to:
>group x is unhappy by your actions
>accommodate them
>you're mean if you refuse.
starts with blacks -> feminists -> jews & catholics -> gays -> illegals -> muslims -> fat/able/criminal/etc.
always the same MO.
In the end, you lose your free-will, you lose your culture, and your society often turns to shit.
Oh wow, you unblocked me? You must really miss getting called a retarded faggot by the winner of the debate, huh?
 
Can you not tell the difference between a white person and a black person? Between a man and a women? Between a transwomen and a women? Between 2 men getting married and a man and a women getting married? Do you not trust your eyes?
Irrelevant.
But fine if you need a solid understanding. Marriage is a social construct between a MAN and a WOMEN.
Marriage is a social construct established by the law. There is nothing intrinsically binding a man and a woman together other than biological necessity.
It was created by lower rank (beta? gamma?) males wanted needed to secure a female partner. Marriage prevents hypergamy. Gay marriage makes no sense between they aren't securign a partner. INB4 legal benefits, yes gays were offered "civil unions" and many were okay with that concept but the LGB lobbying-group wanted "marriage" as the legal word because gay marriage is just a torjan horse to normalize homosexuality. Motte and Bailey fallacy. Easier to defend gay marriage is the same as marriage than homosexuality is the same as heterosexuality.
Agreed, mostly, but I'll get to that.
But this is ultimately the goal, to make people accept and love and have sex with gays no different from straights. If you refuse to have sex with another man that's homophobia and you're discriminating against them based on their sexual orientation.
You're conflating extremist rhetoric with majority belief. Most fags aren't going to tar and feather you because you don't want to fuck them. Trannies might but those are mentally disturbed men in dresses trying to sneak into the ladies' bathroom rather than dudes who fuck other dudes.
Total lunacy and I don't want to go outside of my home and see LGBT shame flags everything. I don't want to see homosexuals kissing in movies. Ultimately they are forcing homosexuality on me and taking away my hetro-normative culture.
There are people who've had their culture ripped away from them because of Islamists murdering them and purging their culture with fire and sword and you're crying over a band of retards crying about nonexistent oppression?
Gay marriage is the trojan horse that they're using to accomplish this. Not only is gay marriage not marriage but it's a total lie because the true goal is normalizing homosexuality.
While I somewhat agree, your assertion that gay marriage isn't marriage is pure sophistry. It has the same function as marriage, therefore it is marriage. Whether it should be called a "civil union" or "marriage" was irrelevant when it was ratified and it's irrelevant now.
intrinsic. In fact without right of conquest, you can justify eating meat. Did you watch the Destiny vs Vegan Gains debate?
I don't watch Pinko Ben Shapiro, but that's besides the point. If the right of conquest is intrinsic then why do you claim that the rights outlined in the Declaration of Independence need to be legally given?
 
Either way, he's now officially a shitty version of MikeMikeV.

Yeah, I said that.
MikeMikev 'only' wanted to fuck 15 year Olds. @BoxerShorts47 has gone much more depraved and gone for 14 years, apparently.

What is it with white nationalists and a fucked up obsession with the age of consent? No adult male should be talking about this shit, it very quickly devolves in to a creepy need to control teenage girls and their sexuality.
 
Irrelevant.

Marriage is a social construct established by the law. There is nothing intrinsically binding a man and a woman together other than biological necessity.

Agreed, mostly, but I'll get to that.

You're conflating extremist rhetoric with majority belief. Most fags aren't going to tar and feather you because you don't want to fuck them. Trannies might but those are mentally disturbed men in dresses trying to sneak into the ladies' bathroom rather than dudes who fuck other dudes.

There are people who've had their culture ripped away from them because of Islamists murdering them and purging their culture with fire and sword and you're crying over a band of retards crying about nonexistent oppression?

While I somewhat agree, your assertion that gay marriage isn't marriage is pure sophistry. It has the same function as marriage, therefore it is marriage. Whether it should be called a "civil union" or "marriage" was irrelevant when it was ratified and it's irrelevant now.

I don't watch Pinko Ben Shapiro, but that's besides the point. If the right of conquest is intrinsic then why do you claim that the rights outlined in the Declaration of Independence need to be legally given?
1. Not irreverent. When you're so gaslit that you deny reality, we got a code red emergency. This creates a "post truth society."
2. Marriage is NOT established by law, it's been part of human culture for 1000s of years, long before "the law" existed.
3. If you refuse to have sex with a non white = racism. If you refuse to have sex with same sex = homophobia. Logical consequence from normalizing homosexuality.
4. Strawman argument. 1. I want a hetro-normative culture. 2. If you aren't willing to defend minor issues than you won't defend major issues. I am sick of this fallacy.
5. Gay marriage is not the same function. It's not about a man providing resources to a women so she raises his kids. If anything gay marriage is cultural appropriation,
6. I am against the deceleration of independence. I don't believe all men [people] should be entitled to certain unalienable rights. life = rude behavior, liberty (freedom) = anarchy, pursuit of happiness = degeneracy. These values seem good on paper but in reality they are be careful for what you wish because you just might get it.


MikeMikev 'only' wanted to fuck 15 year Olds. @BoxerShorts47 has gone much more depraved and gone for 14 years, apparently.

What is it with white nationalists and a fucked up obsession with the age of consent? No adult male should be talking about this shit, it very quickly devolves in to a creepy need to control teenage girls and their sexuality.
Age of consent in USA was historically ~12. It was raised to 18 by the feminists. This has numerous problems. 1) 15 yr old women (not girls because they hit puberty) think all men are pigs because they're sexually attracted them. Criminalizing normal human sexual behavior. 2) a 15 yr old girl + 20 yr old boy > 15 yr old girl + 15 yr old day, more likely to lead to marriage and he is more likely to treat her better because he has more experience. these high school relationships are pure degeneracy, sex only, not mentally healthy. Once you question feminism, you realize age of consent should be lowered and jailbait should be legal.
 
>using preferred pronoun, treated a transwomen the same as a women.

Why do MRA's always do this?

"A women".

I've noticed this numerous times over the years. Do they not realize that woman is singular and women is plural?

Is it an artifact of having a specific first language other than English? Is it the avoidance of using man in woman, or what? Why do MRAs consistently use the plural form of woman as both plural and singular, like deer?

A women. Man, it makes you sound like a retarded wog.

If you cannot defend minor things like noun than you cannot defend major things like the border or the police. That's what we see. Liberals first attack the most vulnerable targets (gay marriage) before they demand more unreasonable accommodations (drag story time, LGBT month, sex education).

2. Common sense. I'm not sure common sense exists. it appears to be the dominant culture under which you were raised.
The follow ideas were 100% common sense in the 1950s.
>Women are too emotional, not good leaders, they don't like STEM.
>Blacks are more violent and dangerous than whites. different races have different qualities that explain different outcome.
The idea that all people were equal or deserved freedom/liberty was not common sense even a few centuries ago.

3. Humor = cope. The reason you're using their preferred pronouns is because you've lost the power to control your society, your culture. They are telling you how the behave and you are complying because there is punishment if you refuse. Rather than admit that you're oppressed, you've had your agency taken away, you're jumping through many different mental hoops to protect yourself from admitting this truth, similar to Stockholm Syndrome. End result is you find yourself in a society that doesn't represent you. You feel like a foreigner, a refugee, in your own nation. This is the problem with "rights," in practice you simply transfer power from own group to another. You cannot create more rights.

You're wrong, I am the one acting like a human because I show both love and hate, I don't allow my agency to taken away by freaks. You act like an NPC; you repeat the culture that is forced onto you. FYI preferred pronouns are 100% lie. You cannot "transition" that's lunacy and these people are lying about their sex. Pure dishonestly or insanity. Liberals always ask, "how did we get a post-truth society? Why don't fact matter?" No clue.

All of this is a complete distraction from matters of class. This is something that both white nationalists and SJWs get completely wrong. Once you fall down the identity politics rabbit hole, every humiliation is suddenly explained by race, gender, political affiliation, discrimination, and so on, and people forget about the role of money.

Almost all social problems boil down to class. The wealthy are insulated from harm in ways that the poor are not. People who are financially destitute have less access to medical care, are more likely to commit theft or end up in sex work, abuse narcotics to escape the misery of their situation, and disproportionately wind up in prison. People who are extremely wealthy can buy whatever care or elective surgeries they want, they're very unlikely to be exploited by others, they have greater health and longevity and less stress, and they're much less likely to commit petty street crimes.

Intersectionalism does not matter. It is a red herring. "Whiteness" is a red herring. The whole thing is a distraction so rich fuckers can divide us and keep running off with all the money. Let me give you an example.

On the left, we have a quadriplegic black bisexual transwoman who has zero dollars. This individual literally has to sell their ass to make ends meet, exposed to STDs and every kind of indignity imaginable.

On the right, we have a quadriplegic black bisexual transwoman who has a billion dollars. This individual lives in a mansion and wants for nothing, completely insulated from the public, from criticism, and from oppression.

You notice that? See how I did that? All I had to do was modify one single variable - that is, wealth - and suddenly, identity became completely fucking irrelevant.

Now, look at this bunch of complete and utter fucking mental midgets:


This is your enemy. This is who you're fighting. This bunch of morons.

Do you really need to train up your rhetoric skills to argue with people like this? You can't just wing it?
 
1. Not irreverent. When you're so gaslit that you deny reality, we got a code red emergency. This creates a "post truth society."
2. Marriage is NOT established by law, it's been part of human culture for 1000s of years, long before "the law" existed.
3. If you refuse to have sex with a non white = racism. If you refuse to have sex with same sex = homophobia. Logical consequence from normalizing homosexuality.
4. Strawman argument. 1. I want a hetro-normative culture. 2. If you aren't willing to defend minor issues than you won't defend major issues. I am sick of this fallacy.
5. Gay marriage is not the same function. It's not about a man providing resources to a women so she raises his kids. If anything gay marriage is cultural appropriation,
6. I am against the deceleration of independence. I don't believe all men [people] should be entitled to certain unalienable rights. life = rude behavior, liberty (freedom) = anarchy, pursuit of happiness = degeneracy. These values seem good on paper but in reality they are be careful for what you wish because you just might get it.



Age of consent in USA was historically ~12. It was raised to 18 by the feminists. This has numerous problems. 1) 15 yr old women (not girls because they hit puberty) think all men are pigs because they're sexually attracted them. Criminalizing normal human sexual behavior. 2) a 15 yr old girl + 20 yr old boy > 15 yr old girl + 15 yr old day, more likely to lead to marriage and he is more likely to treat her better because he has more experience. these high school relationships are pure degeneracy, sex only, not mentally healthy. Once you question feminism, you realize age of consent should be lowered and jailbait should be legal.
I knew it. I knew you'd sperg out about the age of consent, you creepy fuck. It's part of the extremist NEET package. Now you just have to mention you used to be a Sargon of Akkad fan boy during gamergate and you'd be a walking parody.
 
I knew it. I knew you'd sperg out about the age of consent, you creepy fuck. It's part of the extremist NEET package. Now you just have to mention you used to be a Sargon of Akkad fan boy during gamergate and you'd be a walking parody.

He still does worship Soygon of Assmad. Go over to the Soygon thread and he's over there sperging and white knighting.
 
Age of consent in USA was historically ~12. It was raised to 18 by the feminists. This has numerous problems. 1) 15 yr old women (not girls because they hit puberty) think all men are pigs because they're sexually attracted them. Criminalizing normal human sexual behavior. 2) a 15 yr old girl + 20 yr old boy > 15 yr old girl + 15 yr old day, more likely to lead to marriage and he is more likely to treat her better because he has more experience. these high school relationships are pure degeneracy, sex only, not mentally healthy. Once you question feminism, you realize age of consent should be lowered and jailbait should be legal.
lol, the historical age of consent in the western world was lower because arranged marriages were the norm, and it was illegal in most nations to get a divorce. There's a massive difference between getting married at a young age and allowing for niggas to pump and dump lolis. Personally I think arranged marriages should come back because science has shown most people don't reach neurological maturity until 25 and the gap between sexual maturity and neurological maturity is more than enough time for men and women both to completely ruin their chances at ever having a stable relationship.

P.S.
The lowest age of consent in US history being 12 is bullshit. It was federally 12 because at the time that was set, states still had sovereignty and that was an arbitrary "do not cross" line set to prevent states from going too lolicon.

Edit:
How the fuck do you say Sailor Moon is degenerate while being Aokay on loli?
 
I knew it. I knew you'd sperg out about the age of consent, you creepy fuck. It's part of the extremist NEET package. Now you just have to mention you used to be a Sargon of Akkad fan boy during gamergate and you'd be a walking parody.

I love the way he just dug his own grave and then jumped into it with both legs.

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@BoxerShorts47, I thought you liked hairy Pinoy butthole, but you're actually into hairless tween twat?

What, are five-foot-nothing, ninety pound soaking wet Jap girls with a labiaplasty and Brazilian wax not child enough for you?

Please, tell us more about your raging boner and its insatiable desire to plow twelve-year-old pussy.

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I love the way he just dug his own grave and then jumped into it with both legs.

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@BoxerShorts47, I thought you liked hairy Pinoy butthole, but you're actually into hairless tween twat?

What, are five-foot-nothing, ninety pound soaking wet Jap girls with a Brazilian wax not child enough for you?

Please, tell us more about your raging boner and its insatiable desire to plow twelve-year-old pussy.

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Your roasts are much appreciated, but mind the glass house you're issuing them from.
 
Age of consent in USA was historically ~12. It was raised to 18 by the feminists. This has numerous problems. 1) 15 yr old women (not girls because they hit puberty) think all men are pigs because they're sexually attracted them. Criminalizing normal human sexual behavior. 2) a 15 yr old girl + 20 yr old boy > 15 yr old girl + 15 yr old day, more likely to lead to marriage and he is more likely to treat her better because he has more experience. these high school relationships are pure degeneracy, sex only, not mentally healthy. Once you question feminism, you realize age of consent should be lowered and jailbait should be legal.

boy i want to take my vote back now

edit: there you go @Drain Todger you won the most retarded debate
 
1. Not irreverent. When you're so gaslit that you deny reality, we got a code red emergency. This creates a "post truth society."
2. Marriage is NOT established by law, it's been part of human culture for 1000s of years, long before "the law" existed.
3. If you refuse to have sex with a non white = racism. If you refuse to have sex with same sex = homophobia. Logical consequence from normalizing homosexuality.
4. Strawman argument. 1. I want a hetro-normative culture. 2. If you aren't willing to defend minor issues than you won't defend major issues. I am sick of this fallacy.
5. Gay marriage is not the same function. It's not about a man providing resources to a women so she raises his kids. If anything gay marriage is cultural appropriation,
6. I am against the deceleration of independence. I don't believe all men [people] should be entitled to certain unalienable rights. life = rude behavior, liberty (freedom) = anarchy, pursuit of happiness = degeneracy. These values seem good on paper but in reality they are be careful for what you wish because you just might get it.



Age of consent in USA was historically ~12. It was raised to 18 by the feminists. This has numerous problems. 1) 15 yr old women (not girls because they hit puberty) think all men are pigs because they're sexually attracted them. Criminalizing normal human sexual behavior. 2) a 15 yr old girl + 20 yr old boy > 15 yr old girl + 15 yr old day, more likely to lead to marriage and he is more likely to treat her better because he has more experience. these high school relationships are pure degeneracy, sex only, not mentally healthy. Once you question feminism, you realize age of consent should be lowered and jailbait should be legal.
if you ruled a country it'd be such a corrupt shithole lmao
 
1. Not irreverent. When you're so gaslit that you deny reality, we got a code red emergency. This creates a "post truth society."
2. Marriage is NOT established by law, it's been part of human culture for 1000s of years, long before "the law" existed.
3. If you refuse to have sex with a non white = racism. If you refuse to have sex with same sex = homophobia. Logical consequence from normalizing homosexuality.
4. Strawman argument. 1. I want a hetro-normative culture. 2. If you aren't willing to defend minor issues than you won't defend major issues. I am sick of this fallacy.
5. Gay marriage is not the same function. It's not about a man providing resources to a women so she raises his kids. If anything gay marriage is cultural appropriation,
6. I am against the deceleration of independence. I don't believe all men [people] should be entitled to certain unalienable rights. life = rude behavior, liberty (freedom) = anarchy, pursuit of happiness = degeneracy. These values seem good on paper but in reality they are be careful for what you wish because you just might get it.
Wtf does "post truth society" mean? A hypothetical utopia free of your ramblings?
Marriage is an established 'covenant' according to hallucinations by sandniggers thousands of years ago codified into law.

I identify as a gay nigger from outer space. I am appropriating heterosexual culture because of italicized text.

You don't know what cultural appropriation is because you're retarded.

Random text that is supposed to be a coherent argument.

I think that covers everything.
 
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