Debate user BoxerShorts47 on "strawmans" and logical fallacies, definitions of ephebophilia, how to MAGA, religion, Sailor Moon and more

[Pissmaster]

Your job as a grassroots activist aka revolutionary is to change the minds of people. You do that by repeating your talking points until they give up out of frustration.

You need leverage for that to have any effect. You have no leverage over anyone.

 

[Stilgar of Troon]

Everything the liberals have ever promoted: feminism (19A, raising age of consent, equal pay), diversity (civil rights, open borders, affirmative action), homosexuality, transgenderism, EVERYTHING was anathema at one point in time. Your job as a grassroots activist aka revolutionary is to change the minds of people. You do that by repeating your talking points until they give up out of frustration. This is how democracy works. Do you think the liberals said, "wow everyone hates gay marriage, maybe we should listen to people/" or "Wow these people are ignorant, we need to double down on our brainwashing." ?

Well, I see how you resisted brainwashing, at least; can't give a bald man a haircut. Like parents learn to tune out their kids grizzling about inconsequential shite, people will eventually not even notice your autistic word-vomit, it'll just be background noise, like an AC unit that runs constantly. Protip: if you're going to engage in a battle of wits, it's probably not a good idea to come unarmed. Just FYI for your next attempt.

 

[GethN7]

Your job as a grassroots activist aka revolutionary is to change the minds of people. You do that by repeating your talking points until they give up out of frustration.

So the "annoy them into submission" tactic, eh?

This seems like a dumb strategy to me. Pissing people off makes them LESS likely to conside your point of view, not the reverse.

I prefer to win people over with reason and logic when possible, delivered in a calm, rational manner. Generally, most human beings want to be regarded with decency and dignity, and they are much more likely to consider your views if you give them that while trying to convince them.

Being a cruel, vicious, spiteful prick who trying to browbeat your foes into surrender is a tactic that often backfires because it's reliant on fear and intimidation, and people have been motivated far more by love, honor, valor, and compassion than they have been by contempt historically.

 

[BoxerShorts47]

I find it rather disturbing how callously you decide who should live or die. Due to my faith, I'm not a fan of abortion, but I'm not going to stand in the way of a woman wanting to get one, that's her decision. At the same time, when it comes to arguing who deserves an abortion, I find it sobering to consider the question as if you would be one of the people you say should be aborted. If you are perfectly fine with the idea someone should have prevented you from being born, fair enough, that's your opinion, but I don't find it moral to callously decide who should live or die by some heartless metric of who you would consider not worth keeping around.

Defective babies don't have a right to take money and resources from the rest of society. I want a universal healthcare system but if that system becomes supporting every autistic child, it'll collapse. I've spoken with you long enough, you're an anarchist, you don't care about social cohesion and you want a permissive anything goes society that will result in total collapse; ANTIFA-minset. Being weak, being a bleeding heart is a vice. I find you 100% immoral because you don't care about the consequences of your actions and you don't care that your actions destroy society in the long-run.

What's your favorite digimon

I like Digimon World 1.

 

[Heckler1]

Everything the liberals have ever promoted: feminism (19A, raising age of consent, equal pay), diversity (civil rights, open borders, affirmative action), homosexuality, transgenderism, EVERYTHING was anathema at one point in time. Your job as a grassroots activist aka revolutionary is to change the minds of people. You do that by repeating your talking points until they give up out of frustration. This is how democracy works. Do you think the liberals said, "wow everyone hates gay marriage, maybe we should listen to people/" or "Wow these people are ignorant, we need to double down on our brainwashing." ?

This paragraph is a perfect example of why you are terrible at this. All of your points are super broad comparisons that try and create a giant gish gallop that makes no sense and will never convince people to your side. People will not "give up" out of frusteration, they will simply stop listening to you, leaving your "revolution" over before it even began.
You have no audience, no demographic, and you are really unlikable.

 

[SIGSEGV]

Being a cruel, vicious, spiteful prick who trying to browbeat your foes into surrender is a tactic that often backfires because it's reliant on fear and intimidation, and people have been motivated far more by love, honor, valor, and compassion than they have been by contempt historically.

It also helps if you can actually inspire fear and be intimidating, which is something that @BoxerShorts47 can only pull off with children. Everyone else recognizes him for the pathetic retard that he truly is.

 

[cumrobbery]

Defective babies don't have a right to take money and resources from the rest of society. I want a universal healthcare system but if that system becomes supporting every autistic child, it'll collapse. I've spoken with you long enough, you're an anarchist, you don't care about social cohesion and you want a permissive anything goes society that will result in total collapse; ANTIFA-minset. Being weak, being a bleeding heart is a vice. I find you 100% immoral because you don't care about the consequences of your actions and you don't care that your actions destroy society in the long-run.


I like Digimon World 1.

What's your favorite specific Digimon? I like RustTyranomon.

 

[Heckler1]

It also helps if you can actually inspire fear and be intimidating, which is something that @BoxerShorts47 can only pull off with children. Everyone else recognizes him for the pathetic retard that he truly is.

I dunno. I could see some middle school dindus stomping the crap out of him when he tries his "If I frusterate them I win tactic". Which in that case, they really would be good kids who dindu nuffin wrong.

 

[GethN7]

Being weak, being a bleeding heart is a vice.

If having compassion for everyone, even you, makes me evil in your eyes, I will wear those laurels with honor, because what you consider evil I consider good. I'm sorry we cannot agree on that subject.

 

[Stilgar of Troon]

Defective babies ... blah blah blah the usual eugenecist horseshit

You realise that under a system like you describe, eventually it won't just be medical abnormalities that get someone deleted from society but societal/social ones, too? I ask because the traits you display with every venomous little tirade are the very same that would make you an outcast in the world you're advocating for. Something to consider while you're mapping out your Shorts-topian futureworld.

TL;DR: Get fucked, you monocellular ass-tard.

 

[Popper Whiting]

It also helps if you can actually inspire fear and be intimidating, which is something that @BoxerShorts47 can only pull off with children. Everyone else recognizes him for the pathetic retard that he truly is.

Why do I get the feeling that this isn't the first time @BoxerShorts47, pull off and children were mentioned in the same sentence?

I've spoken with you long enough, you're an anarchist, you don't care about social cohesion and you want a permissive anything goes society that will result in total collapse.

Dude, you argued for legalizing sex with children! You're not exactly all about social cohesion or against a permissive anything goes society yourself. You're not a law and order guy. You're a fucking Libertine who wants society to shape itself to your own degenerate whims.

 

[BoxerShorts47]

This paragraph is a perfect example of why you are terrible at this. All of your points are super broad comparisons that try and create a giant gish gallop that makes no sense and will never convince people to your side. People will not "give up" out of frusteration, they will simply stop listening to you, leaving your "revolution" over before it even began.
You have no audience, no demographic, and you are really unlikable.

Answer these 2 questions.
1. Do you believe USA is collapsing? That this nation will not exist much longer? We're the USSR in the 1980s.
2. Are you moving the Overton window left, right or keeping it in the same position? And where do you think that window is now?

If having compassion for everyone, even you, makes me evil in your eyes, I will wear those laurels with honor, because what you consider evil I consider good. I'm sorry we cannot agree on that subject.

Compassion for everyone = suicide. Having no self control does make you evil. No difference between being a drug addict and always shooting up heroin to feel good and having compassion and bending over backwards for everyone to feel good. Either way you got a mental health/addiction issue.

 

[Purin Chan]

I'm pro abortion to abort disabled babies, including post birth abortions. I don't think it's moral to invest community resources into a drag on the community.

Pedophilia is considered a mental illness you know? A "drag on the community" if you will. Does that mean in your perfect utopia it would be totally legal for me to murder post-abort you?

 

[Stardust]

Going with the South Park thing, BoxerShorts47 is doing what that midget guy did to reach Cartman. Even when Cartman kicked his ass, the midget claimed victory.

 

[BoxerShorts47]

Pedophilia is considered a mental illness you know? A "drag on the community" if you will. Does that mean in your perfect utopia it would be totally legal for me to murder post-abort you?

I dont support pedophila. You're lying about my position like a typical liberal.

 

[SIGSEGV]

I dont support pedophila. You're lying about my position like a typical liberal.

Whatever you say, child fucker.

 

[Popper Whiting]

I dont support pedophila. You're lying about my position like a typical liberal.

You want to lower the age of consent to 12. You're a chomo, no matter how much you try and deny it.

 

[Purin Chan]

I dont support pedophila. You're lying about my position like a typical liberal.

Oh sorry let me fix that then

Pedophilia Hebephilia is considered a mental illness you know? A "drag on the community" if you will. Does that mean in your perfect utopia it would be totally legal for me to murder post-abort you?

 

[BoxerShorts47]

Oh sorry let me fix that then

Pedophilia Hebephilia is considered a mental illness you know? A "drag on the community" if you will. Does that mean in your perfect utopia it would be totally legal for me to murder post-abort you?

I don't support that either. Keep trying. and also that was legal in the past. so no it was not a mental illness.

 

[GethN7]

I dont support pedophila. You're lying about my position like a typical liberal.

You want to lower the age of consent to minors. Even if you don't partake of those whom you lowered the age for, you'd be enabling pedophilia, which would make you just as guilty.