Debate user BoxerShorts47 on "strawmans" and logical fallacies, definitions of ephebophilia, how to MAGA, religion, Sailor Moon and more

[Lonely Grave]

If you're on this list you won the argument.

Apparently I'm in candidates to win the argument, but the fat fuck thinks I'm his punching bag or something. Unfortunately for him his attacks are so pathetic it's more likely the momentum of a punching bag will knock him right the fuck out.

 

[Popper Whiting]

Apparently I'm in candidates to win the argument, but the fat fuck thinks I'm his punching bag or something. Unfortunately for him his attacks are so pathetic it's more likely the momentum of a punching bag will knock him right the fuck out.

I believe in you. After all this is what you're up against.

 

[Ellesse_warrior]

Blocked by @BoxerShorts47 and tommy tooter in the same week. Lol pedo cowards

 

[Stilgar of Troon]

Good to see that "Small Dick Energy - The One Man Show" is still running, I hope I got a good seat.

So your entire life's goal is just to cockblock other people that want to make reforms. You're going back on the blocklist. No point in speaking with a troll. Also the fact that you're lying about my wanting pedophilia shows me that despite being a christian. you're 100% dishonest.

address my 3 questions honestly or you are going on the blocklist too.

I suspect that @GethN7 wishes to cockblock people who would do harm to others and call it reforms.

i have a high iq and i can think for myself so i see the patterns.
get me a debate with destiny.

You're constantly disproving the IQ thing, the patterns are the circles you keep reasoning in.

you also deserve being blocked fyi

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Blocked by two pedos in a week, I'm clearly getting something right. Nice.
Do you know what an echo chamber is, Tinkerbell? It's what you're working your way towards by blocking all dissenting voices. Congrats on digimorping into China's government, faggot.
Luckily for us, your incompetence outweighs your professed intelligence.

 

[Drain Todger]

Blocked by @BoxerShorts47 and tommy tooter in the same week. Lol pedo cowards

I haven't been blocked yet. Looks like I'll have to try harder.

I like Digimon World 1.

Imagine being this much of a fucking downie. Just imagine.

How do you tie your shoelaces, @BoxerShorts47? How do you not choke on your own spit?

What kind of mongrelized über-tard, when asked what their favorite Digimon is, answers with the name of a Digimon game instead of a specific Digimon?

 

[GethN7]

I suspect that @GethN7 wishes to cockblock people who would do harm to others and call it reforms.

Well, that's somewhat true, but to be exact:

1. I do not have any regard for those who wish to enable harm to minors.
2. I do not believe violence is a preferable solution to problems that can be solved without using that as a first resort.
3. I do not hate based on the color of one's skin, but I do show contempt for the depravity of one's character if such is indeed depraved.
4. I do not believe anyone who believes they should decide who lives and dies based on their personal convenience should have any actual authority to enact such wishes.
5. I do not like the idea of forcing anyone to act against their own conscience, even if I disagree with their decisions.

 

[MarineTrainedTard]

OP should suck-start a shotgun

Haven't read a post in this thread since page 195, but I'm confident that this post is still relevant and correct

 

[Buster O'Keefe]

What kind of mongrelized über-tard, when asked what their favorite Digimon is, answers with the name of a Digimon game instead of a specific Digimon?

Lol, what a retard.
"Hey @BoxerShorts47, who's your favourite super hero?"
"Batman: Arkham Asylum"

 

[Doctor Placebo]

1. Mybad. Historical age of consent was 10 in USA, with some states having 12. I don't see proof that people changed the laws because they decided that was a "fetish." According to wikipedia the laws were promoted by a feminist named, Elice Hopkins who appears to have never been married or had any children.

Age of consent reform - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

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Ellice Hopkins - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

You left out an interesting tidbit:

Philip Jenkins

said in the mid-1970s, there was widespread sympathy among homosexual activist groups for lowering the age of consent for all sexual activities with many gay publications discussing lowering it for boys.[26] These tensions and antagonisms continued among activist circles until the 1980s; however, since the 1970s, gay liberationist groups promoting frontline advocacy against the age of consent were falling into decline.[27]

A small number of voices continued into the 2000s among self-declared pedophiles on certain internet websites and chatrooms.[28]

I wonder why the guy who complains about homosexual relationships being "freak rights" decided to make sure everyone knew that raising the age of consent was a feminist thing but declined to mention that the campaign to lower it again was led by homos and self-declared pedos?

3. Yes or No. Do people, despite all the brainwashing, still violate these age of consent laws because they don't view them as immoral. At their core, they knew these laws are arbitrary and go against human natural.

Yes or no. The exact same argument applies to the gays. And abortion. Hell, "People break this law and don't view it as immoral, therefore it's arbitrary and against human nature" could also be used to apply to theft, rape, and murder.

Now how about to put the age of consent during what you consider to be the golden age for marriage and families (before 1920, when the age was raised to 16 or higher in most places) into perspective, we look at the average age most women were actually getting married? If this is really not a fetish and about families and how much stronger they were back then, we should be emulating their normal behavior, not bare minimum outliers of what was legal.

Well howdy, this source says between 1800 and 1900 women generally married between 20 and 22 years old.

Here's a whole slew of charts of the median marriage age for women from 1850 to 1990, and the stats for marriage ages are actually fairly steady. At no point is a number significantly higher than 10% of the female population marrying under 18 years old. Early to mid 20's is far more common.

Here's a report from the National Bureau of Economics with the mean ages of women's first marriages across all states and colonies. Lots of 20's, occasionally the age dips to 19, and a couple of territories very, very early in their history (1600's to 1700's) have a mean average marriage for women around 16-17. At no point does the mean age for women's first marriages dip below 16 in any state.

So there you have it. Even when the age of consent was 10-12 in America, most women were getting married in their 20's.

Your argument that 12-14 year old girls getting in sexual relationships with adult men was the reason women were getting married and having children more back then doesn't hold water at all. Especially considering what dating (or more accurately, courtship) was like back then. It was a heavily chaperoned affair, with a great deal of concern that the woman not lose her virtue before marriage. In fact, the term "date" in the modern sense was originally associated with prostitution, because men and women spending romantic time alone together before marriage just wasn't done!

Make of this info what you will. I have a feeling you'll discard it with one of your standard comments about strawmanning or fallacies because you're really just a sexual deviant.

 

[Ellesse_warrior]

I haven't been blocked yet. Looks like I'll have to try harder.

Ask for a photo of his thumb and call Tooter Buddy to make it a double whammy

 

[Zeke Von Genbu]

OP should suck-start a shotgun

Haven't read a post in this thread since page 195, but I'm confident that this post is still relevant and correct

What if I told you that OP finally realized the error of his ways within these last 5 pages, realized that he is advocating for actual pedophilia, and now won't try to change age of consent laws?

hahahahaha as if

 

[BoxerShorts47]

@BoxerShorts47 - what's your take on futurism? I've heard arguments that such things as left or right politics won't matter in 100 years, as there is a good chance that automation will eliminate most work, or the human race will become unrecognizable to genetic engineering and other such things

- what's your take on futurism? I've heard arguments that such things as left or right politics won't matter in 100 years, as there is a good chance that automation will eliminate most work, or the human race will become unrecognizable to genetic engineering and other such things
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Reddit stupidity. The future of America is to become Brazil. become some mutt hybrid lower IQ nation that cannot complete in terms of innovation in the long-run and is so socially unstable that it eventually collapses and gets conquered by China. This idea seems stupid to me. There is no futurism for America.

Right and Left politics is already dead. All nations must deal with capitalism and the accumulation of power by rich elite. All nations need to decide if they want a border and a society with healthy values (no homosexuality, transgenderism, etc) that can work intergenerationally. The rest of the world will look at the West as a model of what NOT to do by late 21st century if not mid century. I think Trump/Brexit in 2016, BLM riots are signs that America is very unstable and more and more of these events will occur ever 4 years until the rest of the world no longer respects America.

Your argument that 12-14 year old girls getting in sexual relationships with adult men was the reason women were getting married and having children more back then doesn't hold water at all. Especially considering what dating (or more accurately, courtship) was like back then. It was a heavily chaperoned affair, with a great deal of concern that the woman not lose her virtue before marriage. In fact, the term "date" in the modern sense was originally associated with prostitution, because men and women spending romantic time alone together before marriage just wasn't done!

Make of this info what you will. I have a feeling you'll discard it with one of your standard comments about strawmanning or fallacies because you're really just a sexual deviant.

1. I never said this. In fact I said the opposite. That you wouldn't see a lot of relationships between 15 yr olds and 60 yr olds. So you proved my point that this wouldn't happen.

2. If you want women to get married in their early 20s than you need to put them on a path to marriage BEFORE their 20s. This is the problem with age of consent. You're basically locking these women up until age 18, 18 yr = same as 9 yr. Society, including the women still think of themselves as children. and then these women treat their early-mid 20s the same as they should have treated their mid-late 10s.

> early colonists married at an average age of around 20 if they were women, and around 26 if they were men.

14 yr old + 20 yr old
15 yr old + 21 yr old
16 yr old + 22 yr old
17 yr old + 23 yr old

You're denying relationships that would likely lead to marriage based on your own link

 

[Buster O'Keefe]

I think Trump/Brexit in 2016, BLM riots are signs that America is very unstable

Fucking Brexit? What the fuck does Brexit have to do with the US? Is OP actually...British?

 

[Begemot]

Being on this paedo's block list should be an eternal point of honour for those listed.

 

[The Spice boi]

Reddit stupidity. The future of America is to become Brazil. become some mutt hybrid lower IQ nation that cannot complete in terms of innovation in the long-run and is so socially unstable that it eventually collapses and gets conquered by China. This idea seems stupid to me. There is no futurism for America.

Right and Left politics is already dead. All nations must deal with capitalism and the accumulation of power by rich elite. All nations need to decide if they want a border and a society with healthy values (no homosexuality, transgenderism, etc) that can work intergenerationally. The rest of the world will look at the West as a model of what NOT to do by late 21st century if not mid century. I think Trump/Brexit in 2016, BLM riots are signs that America is very unstable and more and more of these events will occur ever 4 years until the rest of the world no longer respects America.

No you misunderstand, my bad.

I was talking in regards to how YOU would handle that, if you achieved your goal of a white ethnostate, what would such concepts as permanent 40% unemployment rate due to robotic labour or genetically superior designer babies affect the state.

I'm genuinely curious to your answer, no one really has a definitive strategy to handle such a contingency

 

[Stardust]

You're basically locking these women up until age 18, 18 yr = same as 9 yr.​

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Quite revealing.

 

[Buster O'Keefe]

genetically superior designer babies

@BoxerShorts47 would handle this by trying to fuck them.

 

[Spamy the Bot]

@BoxerShorts47
Almost -4000 points and a 200 page thread.
Impressive.

Fucking Brexit? What the fuck does Brexit have to do with the US? Is OP actually...British?

I don't think that is the case. He is just parroting the less-mainstream right talking points of the last decade.
Basically Brexit used to be a much talked about issue, so he is talking about that if that was some big happening.

 

[Stilgar of Troon]

Fucking Brexit? What the fuck does Brexit have to do with the US? Is OP actually...British?

We Brits resolutely disavow this massive faggot.

 

[GethN7]

Ok, @BoxerShorts47, I believe I've come to realize the questions we need to ask you to understand your position.

You argue that the negatives of feminism can be negated in part by lowering the age of consent. You already explained how you feel it would help society, but to this point, what would be the immediate benefit to you personally? What could you possibly hope to gain in the immediate short term if this change was effected?