U.S. Riots of May 2020 over George Floyd and others - ITT: a bunch of faggots butthurt about worthless internet stickers

[God of Nothing]

This is basically the democratic party right now:

Replace the basketball background with a burning city.

 

[Garm]

I want to float this out there and see if I can crowdsource books or discussions on a subtopic; the interpretation that the radical leftism that has taken hold of political discourse is the spiritual or cultural successor to the hard-right religious fundamentalism of the 2000s. It’s the same pendulum swung to the other side of the political spectrum, employing the same underlying methodologies, with the same protections & immunities, tactics, social leveraging, etc.

For example:

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• sanctioned violence in the name of a spiritual cause/spiritual warfare
• Invocation of original sin doctrines to promote guilt and conversion
• Protection and immunity from criticism or critique
• Appeals based on exploited emotions
• Interpretation of national history in terms of the religion
• Defining Overton windows
• Irrational hostility towards those defined as outsiders
• “no true Scotsman” disenfranchisement of in-group members who show diversity of opinion or interpretation
• Abject dismissal of facts

There are probably tens more but you get the idea. I’m interested in a direct lineage traced from the New Atheism through things like ElevatorGate, Atheism+, GamerGate, up until today’s SJWing with BLM. These people have grown into what many likely rebelled against in their youth and they are too stupid to recognize the same exact structure rebuilt from the rubble of the fundamentalist conservatives’ dismantling.

Any resources would be appreciated.

I think it is more Mao's Cultural Revolution. Supposedly that had young people mob up against "pillars of society" to force political change.

 

[Johan Schmidt]

your overall post is correct, but this part is wrong. you can't seriously expect to succed with some kind of low level separatism against the massive power of a centralized state apparatus like it exists in pretty much all western countries.
this approach is viable in countries where the central government is weak and does not have full authority over its territory, that's how things like the kurdish autonomous regions in syria can exist for example. but in a western country the agents of the state have a very easy time snuffing out any such attempt long before it grows powerful enough to even be noticed by the wider public.

you simply can't run or get away from the state. if the state becomes hostile to the people, as it has in this case, then the only option is to fight and weaken it. and you can't do that by attempting to continuously give up and run away and flee from it, you can only do that by carrying out acts of sabotage and assassination against key targets without getting caught.

True, but I do draw a distinction between running away and simply 'regrouping' as it were. The trend of white flight is an inherently destructive one that needs to be reversed; but we are effectively a diaspora right now in regards to our politics if not our race. I feel that we do need to form our own smaller communities and that a withdrawal will happen regardless of what we'd want to do. I'm not advocating running and form a branch davidion style commune; but using the internet (and older methods, like pubs/bars/clubs) to meet up and network and find allies.

I'm an old school BNP sort of nationalist; but I don't believe that my ideas in full will ever become the most mainstream in my lifetime. But I do believe in the power of vanguardist movements. The public at large is not (in my view) political in that they will want to talk shop all or even most of the time; but they do have an underlying belief and a strong one at that that will limit the extent to which they will vote for a certain person. Pushing forward the things that would save our civilization will not work unless the 'overton window' is moved sufficiently to a point where those ideas are acceptable; vanguard parties and movements and speakers are the teeth in the jaws that will ratchet the unwieldy nature of the social contract in a way that works for us. It's what the Marxists, and Anarchists, and feminists and what not used and what worked for most things throughout history. Yes sometimes violence would be part of that (*GLOW INTENSIFIES!*) But violence is simply an extension of politics by other means; the IRA was not solely composed of militia, it was mostly composed of people who had been 'soft' radicalised into supporting them by inaction (not reporting them, helping hide them, not noticing things, etc). A

But for vanguardism to work it has to be nurtured; and for that you need a community, and allies, and reaffirmation that what you believe is not in fact crackpot like the left will try and push; but rather the truth of things. Hopefully it will work. If not then we will be consigned to the dustbin of history. Our politics has to be 'metapolitics' rather than direct party/platform/people politics.

 

[The Last Stand]

Most of the Democrat votes are in cities, the kind of cities with a lot of immigrants both legal and illegal and where you'd get your head kicked in if you said you were a Republican.

Being Republican is the equivalent of being Black in the 20th century. God damn.

 

[ZehnBoat]

you know what bugs me about these people?
thought crimes are permanent, context doesn't matter, and even if it's a joke or you you've changed.. you will forever be shunned for what you did.

but physical crimes? just say sorry and never do it again, and it's okay

raped a bunch of people? just give everyone puppy eyes, so "my bad".. and it's fine

told a bad joke 15 years ago? REEEEE CANCEL CANCEL OUTCAST OUTCAST!!!

 

[DumbDude42]

True, but I do draw a distinction between running away and simply 'regrouping' as it were. The trend of white flight is an inherently destructive one that needs to be reversed; but we are effectively a diaspora right now in regards to our politics if not our race. I feel that we do need to form our own smaller communities and that a withdrawal will happen regardless of what we'd want to do. I'm not advocating running and form a branch davidion style commune; but using the internet (and older methods, like pubs/bars/clubs) to meet up and network and find allies.

I'm an old school BNP sort of nationalist; but I don't believe that my ideas in full will ever become the most mainstream in my lifetime. But I do believe in the power of vanguardist movements. The public at large is not (in my view) political in that they will want to talk shop all or even most of the time; but they do have an underlying belief and a strong one at that that will limit the extent to which they will vote for a certain person. Pushing forward the things that would save our civilization will not work unless the 'overton window' is moved sufficiently to a point where those ideas are acceptable; vanguard parties and movements and speakers are the teeth in the jaws that will ratchet the unwieldy nature of the social contract in a way that works for us. It's what the Marxists, and Anarchists, and feminists and what not used and what worked for most things throughout history. Yes sometimes violence would be part of that (*GLOW INTENSIFIES!*) But violence is simply an extension of politics by other means; the IRA was not solely composed of militia, it was mostly composed of people who had been 'soft' radicalised into supporting them by inaction (not reporting them, helping hide them, not noticing things, etc). A

But for vanguardism to work it has to be nurtured; and for that you need a community, and allies, and reaffirmation that what you believe is not in fact crackpot like the left will try and push; but rather the truth of things. Hopefully it will work. If not then we will be consigned to the dustbin of history. Our politics has to be 'metapolitics' rather than direct party/platform/people politics.

vanguard party-ism works when the country and state are all but destroyed, that's when such an organisation can actually seize power. it happened that way in 1917/1918 russia after the tsarist regime had suffered a devastating defeat at the hands of the german army, the economy was in shambles, and the country was facing dire shortages of food and other goods. it also happened in china after the japanese had ravaged large parts of the country and inflicted extreme attrition on the nationalists.

but, you can't successfully form and operate a vanguard party when the existing state is alive and well and constantly working to actively suppress the formation of any serious opposition. just like you can't form some kind of anti communist party in china today, you can't form an anti globalist party in the west today, because the state apparatus is explicitly designed to prevent that from happening.
if you try it in china, the state police will arrest you and that's the end of your idea. if you try it in the west, the state will act in more subtle ways, but it will still act - you will essentially become a complete outcast, a pariah, a leper, with no hopes of ever succeeding at anything in life ever again. this results in a situation where everybody who has anything to lose will actively avoid association with anything that isn't kosher, so all your 'networking' will get you is people who already had nothing to lose to begin with, and these people tend to be worthless and useless for anything bigger than the occasional barroom brawl.

 

[AlexJonesGotMePregnant]

I've said it previously in this thread - I'm not a lawyer, and I'm definitely no brighter than any of the other people here, but I could absolutely defend Chauvin, based on the toxicology and autopsy findings. In fact, I'd put up $10 of my very limited stimulus money that says most people here could do it.

it's a terrible idea to presume that he will have anything close to a fair trial.

 

[Gustav Schuchardt]

I think it is more Mao's Cultural Revolution. Supposedly that had young people mob up against "pillars of society" to force political change.

Mao used the Red Guards (an angry, decentralized mob) against his domestic political opponents. Actually it's a very similar situation to the current US one - people at the very top of society (DNC, media, corporations) are egging on mobs of people at the very bottom to change the power balance in the White House and Congress.

 

[Mr. Skeltal]

Being Republican is the equivalent of being Black in the 20th century. God damn.

Yep, and "racist" is to whites as "nigger" is to blacks. The word has lost all meaning and is now bandied about like a racial epithet.

I swear to God if we get some faggot-ass "feelings are important" nega-Jim Crow in the next 10-30 years I'm going to say "fuck the optics" and become an honest-to-gooddness national socialist.

 

[Otterly]

I've said it previously in this thread - I'm not a lawyer, and I'm definitely no brighter than any of the other people here, but I could absolutely defend Chauvin, based on the toxicology and autopsy findings. In fact, I'd put up $10 of my very limited stimulus money that says most people here could do it.

He should absolutely have a good defence, although I dont hold out much hope of a fair trial. Having looked at the bits of the autopsy reports that were released and the video, I would say that chauavin’s actions did contribute to the death. The first autopsy was accurate looking to me - he died of a combination of things, the drugs were a big contributory factor as was the stress position he was in. Whether he’d have died that evening or not, what would be on trial is whether the actions in that moment contributed to the death in that moment and I think it’s reasonable to say they did. The combo of drugs and disease and stress position is what did it (imo.) so that neither absolves the officer nor makes him guilty of murder with intent. More like
manslaughter or what the American equivalent is?
What that means in terms of what he’s guilty of I don’t know. I doubt he will get a fair trial anyway.

just like you can't form some kind of anti communist party in china today, you can't form an anti globalist party in the west today, because the state apparatus is explicitly designed to prevent that from happening

I was saying something similar the other day to a friend when we were talking about a news story in shops switching to cashless in the wake of corona. Banks dropping accounts, payment platforms banning people, purely electronic banking, it’s very easy to put mechanisms in place that make it impossible to function in the modern world unless you play along with the System. It’s a creeping control.

 

[Non-breath oblige]

you know what bugs me about these people?
thought crimes are permanent, context doesn't matter, and even if it's a joke or you you've changed.. you will forever be shunned for what you did.

but physical crimes? just say sorry and never do it again, and it's okay

raped a bunch of people? just give everyone puppy eyes, so "my bad".. and it's fine

told a bad joke 15 years ago? REEEEE CANCEL CANCEL OUTCAST OUTCAST!!!

Soon it'll just become just like Japan, the lower you bow, the more "sorry" you are and people will just magically forgive you of your sins.

 

[Puff]

He should absolutely have a good defence, although I dont hold out much hope of a fair trial. Having looked at the bits of the autopsy reports that were released and the video, I would say that chauavin’s actions did contribute to the death. The first autopsy was accurate looking to me - he died of a combination of things, the drugs were a big contributory factor as was the stress position he was in. Whether he’d have died that evening or not, what would be on trial is whether the actions in that moment contributed to the death in that moment and I think it’s reasonable to say they did. The combo of drugs and disease and stress position is what did it (imo.) so that neither absolves the officer nor makes him guilty of murder with intent. More like
manslaughter or what the American equivalent is?
What that means in terms of what he’s guilty of I don’t know. I doubt he will get a fair trial anyway.



I was saying something similar the other day to a friend when we were talking about a news story in shops switching to cashless in the wake of corona. Banks dropping accounts, payment platforms banning people, purely electronic banking, it’s very easy to put mechanisms in place that make it impossible to function in the modern world unless you play along with the System. It’s a creeping control.

The American equivalent is "manslaughter". Also in most jurisdictions there's an "eggshell skull" interpretation. As in, if you were unaware of conditions that would make your actions deadly when they otherwise wouldn't be, you're still liable as long as you show a "reckless disregard for life"

 

[TerribleIdeas™]

it's a terrible idea to presume that he will have anything close to a fair trial.

Even with a change of venue, it's basically impossible.

 

[RumblyTumbly]

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If white people told their children there are people in the world that want to hurt them because of their skin color, you'd call them racist.

 

[JK Rowling]

Even with a change of venue, it's basically impossible.

If it's not possible for him to get a fair trial then maybe he shouldn't be tried at all.

 

[Banworld]

Soon it'll just become just like Japan, the lower you bow, the more "sorry" you are and people will just magically forgive you of your sins.

Lmao Japan is brutal to its criminals, if your case goes to trial you're almost guaranteed to be convicted, because prosecutors will generally not take a case to court unless they're sure of a win. Consequently, by the time shit hits trial, everyone there has the idea that 'he's definitely guilty, else we wouldn't be here in the first place'.

Here the case is simple: for whites, apologies are just a part of routine humiliation, and part of paying an unpayable debt. For non-whites, they're earnest lamentations of actions they were forced into by racism, which is caused by whites.

 

[TerribleIdeas™]

He should absolutely have a good defence, although I dont hold out much hope of a fair trial. Having looked at the bits of the autopsy reports that were released and the video, I would say that chauavin’s actions did contribute to the death. The first autopsy was accurate looking to me - he died of a combination of things, the drugs were a big contributory factor as was the stress position he was in. Whether he’d have died that evening or not, what would be on trial is whether the actions in that moment contributed to the death in that moment and I think it’s reasonable to say they did. The combo of drugs and disease and stress position is what did it (imo.) so that neither absolves the officer nor makes him guilty of murder with intent. More like
manslaughter or what the American equivalent is?
What that means in terms of what he’s guilty of I don’t know. I doubt he will get a fair trial anyway.

I was saying something similar the other day to a friend when we were talking about a news story in shops switching to cashless in the wake of corona. Banks dropping accounts, payment platforms banning people, purely electronic banking, it’s very easy to put mechanisms in place that make it impossible to function in the modern world unless you play along with the System. It’s a creeping control.

Basically, the tox and autopsy reports indicate that he'd previously had Wu Flu, which isn't just a pulmonary-affective disease, as far as the medical establishment can tell now, because it's also been reported as causing all kinds of cardiovascular effects, like heart attacks, strokes, edema, organ failure, and more. Add to that the cardiovascular stresses of meth and fentanyl, then the stress of being arrested, and it's not a surprise that his heart gave out.

I'm not a medical professional, but I asked a couple that I know, and they generally concede that without the stress of the arrest, he had anywhere from 2 weeks to 6 months, before his heart gave out anyways. Sure, the arrest accelerated that cardiovascular failure, but the pin isn't the problem, the root cause is the stress associated with the arrest.

And even with a request for a change of venue, there's basically no chance of getting a fair trial. Funny thing though - almost all of the "Defund/Abolish the Police" manifestos demand that Felons of Colour be "tried by their peers", which implies that the ACABtards want cardio-americans to preside as juries for cardio-americans, which is both a terrible idea, and could be thrown in their faces concerning Chauvin.

Disclaimer - I'm still not a lawyer, and I'm definitely not a doctor, so don't consider me any kind of authority on either field.

 

[Freedom Fries]

They made the same mistake they made with their last ad: poor voice acting. It sounds like an amateur parody of a real political smear ad. Every small town politician can nail the ominous smear voice for their ads, but that basic level of competency escapes the feebs at the Lincoln Project. Even the editing is off. It looks like a fun parody of smear ads, it does not convey the message nor tone they intend.

Sometimes I wonder if the Lincoln Project is actually an op to make never-Trump GOPers look cringe and unappealing rather than a legitimate anti-Trump group.

 

[deeplyhigh]

It begins.


Local newsrag says crime is actually down though, bigot!


The normies broke through their programming.

That isn't considered flipped red?

Cities. Look at the 2016 election map by county. There's not one blue zone that's not a city.

As others have said, it’s because of Minneapolis, St. Paul, and some of the surrounding metro area. There are about 5.5 million people in the entire state and about 3.5 million of those live in the metro. It’s a little heartening to see even the metro fading to a lighter blue though.

 

[Observotron]

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Because having toilet paper stuck to your foot is the most damning and incriminating of all political ineptitude.