The Last of Us Franchise - Because it's apparently a franchise now. This thread has been double-DMCA’d by Sony Interactive Entertainment.

I’m still honestly confused as to if we were intended to like Abby or not. Even in the flashbacks she’s a shitty person.
The best part of this IMO is that Abby is very clearly shown to be a shitty person, and players are not only asked, but expected to like and identify with her; but Joel's death is excused with "he did shitty things in the past."
 
Then, y'know: maybe you should delete the picture of you in a mocap suit with your face covered in capture dots alongside Neil in the recording studio so that maybe people don't get the wrong idea? Because otherwise, that's a really, REALLY bad look.

Come on. It's just a photo of an actress with the games director. As if that's something unusual. Also Dreckmann ISN'T wearing a mocap suit. Someone faking a tweet doesn't make the photo is bad.
 
As interesting as it has been to check various streams, it has been a HUGE missed opportunity this weekend for all of our lolcows that none of them streamed this game. Jake Alley might have been a possibility if he had a console. It's been a big tip generator for everybody hitting the story early and it's a shame we're only seeing actual gamers playing it and no thread crossovers.
 
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You know, when everyone told Druckmann to go fuck himself, I don't think they thought he would actually do it. Well played good sir.
 
The Phantom Pain even does killing people and feeling bad about it better.

I actually happened upon one of these moments by accident and what makes "Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain" underappreciated is the stuff you don't see. Basically, I'd shot and injured a guard who was left writhing on pain on the ground, but since I'd set an alarm off, I was forced to hide nearby where I couldn't be seen but could see what was happening around me.

What happened next kind of stunned me. The guard who found his injured buddy and reported it to his commanders actually knelt next to the injured guard, told him to hang on, and was basically comforting the guy as he slowly bled out and reacted appropriately when he finally did die. This was all sheer programmed artifice, of course, but it still made me feel bad.
 
Come on. It's just a photo of an actress with the games director. As if that's something unusual. Also Dreckmann ISN'T wearing a mocap suit. Someone faking a tweet doesn't make the photo is bad.
Me personally, I don't think it's bad nor do I think the tweet's real either. I'm saying it's going to add fuel to the fire for people wanting to justify that tweet being real and it'd just make for less of a headache for them later down the line to get rid of it, especially now that everyone and their mother's out for their blood. The fact that even some people here are unironically buying that "My dad works at Nintendo"-tier bullshit should say enough (not everyone obviously, and obviously some are just shitposting, but enough to make me slightly raise my eyebrow).

They could even write it off that they deleted it because a bunch of "angry incel neckbeards" were spamming their Instagram with "harassment". I mean, if you're gonna go and insult people by saying they haven't TRULY played the game to know what they're talking about and postulate about the moral quandaries of brain golfing anyways, then just go all out and lean hard into it to salvage whatever asspats you can.
 
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As interesting as it has been to check various streams, it has been a HUGE missed opportunity this weekend for all of our lolcows that none of them streamed this game. Jake Alley might have been a possibility if he had a console. It's been a big tip generator for everybody hitting the story early and it's a shame we're only seeing actual gamers playing it and no thread crossovers.
DarkSydePhil is playing it.
 
I am fucking loving this tidbit of information (if true).

Imagine your dev cycle being such a pervasive clusterfuck of revolving doors for employees, disgruntleted people - to the point of there being leaks, and being such an unwanted piece of shit in writing that no ACTOR wanted to join it, that you had to go and fuck yourself on camera.
To be quite honest I'm not sure how you'd even do that. I mean, gyrating on your hands and knees is one thing, but did he have to hump a mannequin to get the desired effect?
 
I'm still trying to figure out why the damn scene is even in the game.
Because now that Abby has gotten her revenge and is validated, she can finally allow herself to FEEL and be human, since Joel stole that from her by saving Ellie.

But Ellie wanting revenge is bad and she should feel bad.
 
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To be quite honest I'm not sure how you'd even do that. I mean, gyrating on your hands and knees is one thing, but did he have to hump a mannequin to get the desired effect?
Even though it's probably not true, I'm going to choose to believe this anyway because it's too wonderful and hilarious not to.

Neil Druckmann humped a blowup doll for the mocap of that sex scene while the rest of the studio watched with extreme discomfort.
 
The Last of Us 2 is the latest in a line of various franchises' sequels made to ~subvert~ and ~challenge expectations~ that ends up just taking a massive steaming shit all over the original, then shaming the fans. Every character that fans loved in the original is either dead or utterly broken. And again, we are not only asked, but expected to like the characters responsible. Ffs Abby literally gets crucified like she's supposed to be fucking Jesus.

These people seem to either forget, or stopped giving a shit, that they're making a sequel (or in cases like Fantastic Beasts, a prequel) to a product. In the process of "challenging expectations", they destroy characters like Joel and uplift characters that are very much forgettable or hated. This is the same shit that happened with The Last Jedi. The once hopeful and courageous Luke Skywalker turns into a fucking hermit for such piss-poor (if any) reasons and people are supposed to deal with that and focus more on Rey.

These people feel the need to "divide audiences" and have it reflect the current state of society for no reason.

If you want subversiveness done well, check out Memento or Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty. Within the context of the way they were created, being subversive worked. But people now seem to want to put this methodology in pretty much everything, even linear storytelling.

There's a famous essay called "Destruction and Creation" by Colonel John Boyd. It's an extension on how battlefield commanders get into one another's heads. As Boyd stated, the human psyche comprehends the world by taking in inputs, finding a lots of realities and controls, and framing that information into a psychological model that permit rational decision-making. At the point when we distinguish that our psychological model isn't right ("My spouse has been cheating on me this whole time!"), it causes an unpleasant phase of annihilation, when the old mental model must be destroyed to think of a model that fits the recently procured realities (the creation stage). You see this pressured response in individuals who've quite recently left a cult, when even as they talk about what occurred, they're continually shaken by unexpected realization that nearly all that they'd acknowledged had been a determined falsehood, and their cerebrum needs to reconsider pretty much every occasion exclusively. On the front line, a leader who comprehends his adversary will work to make his rival misjudge the accessible data sources (utilizing bluffs, double dealings, bogus government agent accounts, and so forth). In any case, he attempts to postpone his rival's realizations, so that the opponent's time and energy intensive destruction and creation cycle (the epiphany) comes too late to affect the outcome of the battle.

In that light, when we watch an anecdotal universe, we're learning the standards of that universe, its history, and its characters. We do this normally with the goal that we can comprehend, anticipate, and respond to occasions, similarly as we would in reality. A standard infringement triggers a mind's "I've misread everything!" reaction in a way not proposed by the writer, rather than a writer releasing an energizing huge uncover or "aha!" second - "No Luke, I am your father!" When a group infringement occurs, rather than moving with the story, the watcher is confounded and attempting to accommodate the new information with the old model. They're in a high-stress state since they've unexpectedly understood that their psychological model of the anecdotal world might be lethally defective, and that is never an agreeable state for a wise being who thinks the exactness of his psychological model is significant.

But people who attach no importance to the fictional universe, the "non-fans", don't go through this because they have no investment into their mental model of a fictional universe that they don't value. Non-fans won't have a reaction to a canon violation, anymore than a bass fisherman would react to a Paris fashion faux pas. They neither know nor care and just enjoy the pretty show. But a fan's enjoyment will likely be destroyed as their Destruction and Creation cycle gets triggered. They are sitting in their seat, madly trying to make sense of a shocking revelation, yet it is a revelation the author never intended, and one certainly never intended to be upsetting and stressful. The blissfully ignorant author thought it would just be cool if a character could suddenly do X, Y, or Z, while the fan is reacting as if he'd just beheld a scene that said Jesus was gay or water flows uphill. He's taken completely out of the movie and spends the rest of it wrestling with the logical contradictions and implications. He comes out upset and unsettled.

So, tl;dr, subversiveness is gay and belongs only in the hands of Yuri Bezmenov.
 
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Some of the mushrooms zombies are topless and all of them have better tits than Abby.

Pics or it didn't happen.

Laura's saying the third pic in Nora's tweet is photoshopped.
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Then, y'know: maybe you should delete the picture of you in a mocap suit with your face covered in capture dots alongside Neil in the recording studio so that maybe people don't get the wrong idea? Because otherwise, that's a really, REALLY bad look.

EDIT: I don't even understand why she's getting uppity over that Tweet in particular. Even if it was Photoshopped, and I'll give her the benefit of the doubt and say it was, what exactly is so damning about it that she felt the need to clarify it was fake? Even if she did do the scene like the Tweets' implying, nobody would care because they were most likely under contract, she wouldn't really have a choice in the matter; like, money is money. At least respect the hustle.

The male feminist mirror image of this.
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EDIT: I don't even understand why she's getting uppity over that Tweet in particular. Even if it was Photoshopped, and I'll give her the benefit of the doubt and say it was, what exactly is so damning about it that she felt the need to clarify it was fake? Even if she did do the scene like the Tweets' implying, nobody would care because they were most likely under contract, she wouldn't really have a choice in the matter; like, money is money. At least respect the hustle.

I think it's because people were using that tweet to imply that Druckmann used the mocapping to creep on Laura.
 
The best part of this IMO is that Abby is very clearly shown to be a shitty person, and players are not only asked, but expected to like and identify with her; but Joel's death is excused with "he did shitty things in the past."

This is the weirdest thing about the character. Are we supposed to feel sorry for this character for what Joel did to her father in the first game? Because we know that Joel killed the surgeon guy and the Fireflies at that base for good reason. There was a small possibility that a cure could be discovered from Ellie, and based on the notes found at the base, all of the other test subjects died and no cure was discovered. The Fireflies were essentially going to kill Ellie (by Abby's father by extension). Joel was being not only caring for the welfare of Ellie, but was rational in his decision to save Ellie.

And we're supposed to feel sorry for and like Abby for what happened? Fuck that.
 
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