The Last of Us Franchise - Because it's apparently a franchise now. This thread has been double-DMCA’d by Sony Interactive Entertainment.

[Elric of Melnibone]

It’s just that you people have poor taste, you don’t know what great storytelling is. You just want fan service, and biased story. ND made a realistic take of what actually could have happened, they didn’t pick sides of any character, they gave every character their perspective, like tv shows except this time you play as them, they didn’t create a plot armor story, they made something gamers don’t have the brains to understand.

The plot of TLOU2 is not just bad by movie/tv standards, but its also bad in video game standards as well. Sons of Anarchy, The Shield, Breaking Bad, The wire, all of these shows are deep and dark and kick the everloving shit out of TLOU 2 in every possible way. On the gaming front you have Baldurs Gate, Planescape Torment, Spec Ops The Line, Bioshock, System Shock, Fallout 1, 2, and New Vegas, Knights of the Old Republic, Red Dead Redemption, literally tons of games that have a much better, much darker, much deeper more philosophical plot than TLOU. Maybe you should play something other than babies first misery simulator before you comment on good dark narratives in gaming or movies/tv.

 

[Optimus Prime]

The plot of TLOU2 is not just bad by movie/tv standards, but its also bad in video game standards as well. Sons of Anarchy, The Shield, Breaking Bad, The wire, all of these shows are deep and dark and kick the everloving shit out of TLOU 2 in every possible way. On the gaming front you have Baldurs Gate, Planescape Torment, Spec Ops The Line, Bioshock, System Shock, Fallout 1, 2, and New Vegas, Knights of the Old Republic, Red Dead Redemption, literally tons of games that have a much better, much darker, much deeper more philosophical plot than TLOU. Maybe you should play something other than babies first misery simulator before you comment on good dark narratives in gaming or movies/tv.

Those games actually require effort, though - TLOU2 has all those handy-dandy "accessibility" options that basically remove any and all challenge.

 

[Ginger Piglet]

“Yeah, the game where you discover that the Gods were not only false, but were invented by the ancients”

Wow what a great discovery, I never heard of religion being invented, I thought it was real. Damn so dark and complex lol.

“The game where you are the last five humans trapped in the belly of an insane AI”

Wtf that sounds so dumb. But okay role player it’s clearly very deep and realistic.

Religion being invented, maybe. But that's not what Pillars is about. Pillars is about the gods being invented even though they have verifiable powers and personalities. It's basically Also Sprach Zarathustra: The Game.

Now you're just being deliberately thick witted. But then again, "zombie apocalypse" has been done a million times before and done better. I would ask if you were trolling, but if you were it would come over as just pretending to be retarded.

The plot of TLOU2 is not just bad by movie/tv standards, but its also bad in video game standards as well. Sons of Anarchy, The Shield, Breaking Bad, The wire, all of these shows are deep and dark and kick the everloving shit out of TLOU 2 in every possible way. On the gaming front you have Baldurs Gate, Planescape Torment, Spec Ops The Line, Bioshock, System Shock, Fallout 1, 2, and New Vegas, Knights of the Old Republic, Red Dead Redemption, literally tons of games that have a much better, much darker, much deeper more philosophical plot than TLOU. Maybe you should play something other than babies first misery simulator before you comment on good dark narratives in gaming or movies/tv.

System Shock, yes. Trapped alone in space and late to the party. That's how you do a dark and complex narrative. When does someone become a God? What is a God, even?

But then again, he thinks that RPGs are for nerds so he's clearly too good for many of those.

 

[Notgoodwithusernames]

The plot of TLOU2 is not just bad by movie/tv standards, but its also bad in video game standards as well. Sons of Anarchy, The Shield, Breaking Bad, The wire, all of these shows are deep and dark and kick the everloving shit out of TLOU 2 in every possible way. On the gaming front you have Baldurs Gate, Planescape Torment, Spec Ops The Line, Bioshock, System Shock, Fallout 1, 2, and New Vegas, Knights of the Old Republic, Red Dead Redemption, literally tons of games that have a much better, much darker, much deeper more philosophical plot than TLOU. Maybe you should play something other than babies first misery simulator before you comment on good dark narratives in gaming or movies/tv.

Hell Super Metroid despite being very minimalist in regards to its story is far more impactful.

 

[VicSav007]

Isn't this game set in a world with 60% of the population dead and people struggling to survive? Why should we sympathise with Abby when she has access to more resources than most people living now do?

“Access to more resources than most people today”
WTF. I’m done with this stupidity. They don’t have supermarkets and Walmart’s to stock on stuff bruh lol. They found and built a shelter in a stadium with herds and plant farming. They get to work, become productive and can survive, reproduce, live and protect. That’s how they can survive.

 

[Tempesta]

To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand The Last of Us Part II

There, fixed that for you

 

[Lurk Jurk]

“Access to more resources than most people today”
WTF. I’m done with this stupidity. They don’t have supermarkets and Walmart’s to stock on stuff bruh lol. They found and built a shelter in a stadium with herds and plant farming. They get to work, become productive and can survive, reproduce, live and protect. That’s how they can survive.

Did you actually join the Farms to simp for this game? What did you think was gonna happen here?

 

[Optimus Prime]

“Access to more resources than most people today”
WTF. I’m done with this stupidity. They don’t have supermarkets and Walmart’s to stock on stuff bruh lol.

They're in the middle of a city, dumbass. Even if the food's all gone you still have stores absolutely full of supplies that can be used. And given the kind of artificial shit food tends to have, its possible that food is in fact still edible.

They found and built a shelter in a stadium with herds and plant farming.

Which is incredibly stupid because it's full of entrances you have to guard at all times lest the zombies find a way in (and you're pretty much fucked if they do since their corpses become infection vectors on the spot of their death) and you can't simply grow crops on any old soil - they literally would have better chances of survival on an actual farm.

They get to work, become productive and can survive, reproduce, live and protect. That’s how they can survive.

I'm sorry, but what? These are the same fucking morons that sent a woman 8 months pregnant into the field! Reproduction does not seem to be on their mind when it damn well should!

But oh, then Ellie wouldn't unwittingly kill a pregnant lady to try and justify having Abby almost kill a pregnant person as well. Isn't that a conundrum.

 

[jje100010001]

They sent this to a streamer (NickEh30).

The plaque. Kind of up its ass.

The booklet wasn't enough?

 

[Duncan Hills Coffee]

Seriously, stop feeding the trolls.

 

[VicSav007]

Yes, realistic.

Because Abby punching the shit out of contagious-on-touch zombies makes any sense even within the game's own established ruleset.

Its laughable that you think TLOU2 sucking Abby's man-cock is at all "realistic" and is "great storytelling" - please, why don't you give some other examples of great writing, given your tastes I would expect you to say the last two Star Wars films or perhaps you enjoyed GoT Season 8?

And then when you're done felating garbage you can go read some actual great literature like The Great Gatsby or The Lord of the Rings trilogy.

All your focus is on Abby and her being strong. Stop voicing your insecurities into her lol. If Abby muscular build is a new concept and doesn’t exist in the real world then I can agree with you but they exist and 170ib women will make them tough and def will be able to take on challenges like that. It’s also part of the game where she’s fun to play as, you know games are also meant to be fun to play.

The plot of TLOU2 is not just bad by movie/tv standards, but its also bad in video game standards as well. Sons of Anarchy, The Shield, Breaking Bad, The wire, all of these shows are deep and dark and kick the everloving shit out of TLOU 2 in every possible way. On the gaming front you have Baldurs Gate, Planescape Torment, Spec Ops The Line, Bioshock, System Shock, Fallout 1, 2, and New Vegas, Knights of the Old Republic, Red Dead Redemption, literally tons of games that have a much better, much darker, much deeper more philosophical plot than TLOU. Maybe you should play something other than babies first misery simulator before you comment on good dark narratives in gaming or movies/tv.

Joel died so it’s bad storytelling*

Fixed it for you

 

[Neurotic Loser]

“Access to more resources than most people today”
WTF. I’m done with this stupidity. They don’t have supermarkets and Walmart’s to stock on stuff bruh lol. They found and built a shelter in a stadium with herds and plant farming. They get to work, become productive and can survive, reproduce, live and protect. That’s how they can survive.

They have enough food so that Abby could gain and maintain huge muscle mass for at the very least 5 years. That is a lot of food to eat. So either she has so much access to food that they could afford to give her a (roughly) 3500-5000 calorie diet every day which most people can't afford (even when developing nations aren't accounted for) or she is unrealistically muscular.

Joel died in an unrealistic way (as he would never be so loose with his information) so it’s bad storytelling*

Fixed it for you bud. ;D

 

[Optimus Prime]

If Abby muscular build is a new concept and doesn’t exist in the real world then I can agree with you but they exist and 170ib women will make them tough and def will be able to take on challenges like that.

So much for being "done" with this, eh?

Also, I call bullshit. Find me a picture of a lady who is that jacked and has boobs that small. This is your argument to defend, not mine, so prove to me it is realistic. It's already been shown multiple times in this thread you can't get that jacked without a regimen only a modern fully functional society can support, and even those women still have defined breasts.

It’s also part of the game where she’s fun to play as, you know games are also meant to be fun to play.

EXCEPT TLOU2 IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE FUN, ACCORDING TO NEIL DRUCKMAN HIMSELF!

https://www.gamesradar.com/we-dont-use-the-word-fun-says-the-last-of-us-2-director-neil-druckmann/

 

[Elric of Melnibone]

Those games actually require effort, though - TLOU2 has all those handy-dandy "accessibility" options that basically remove any and all challenge.

Honestly if a games dark gritty take on deep philosophical questions is not making you think and requiring you to put forth the effort to understand them, then that in and of its self is proof that its not a good narrative.

 

[Ginger Piglet]

All your focus is on Abby and her being strong. Stop voicing your insecurities into her lol. If Abby muscular build is a new concept and doesn’t exist in the real world then I can agree with you but they exist and 170ib women will make them tough and def will be able to take on challenges like that. It’s also part of the game where she’s fun to play as, you know games are also meant to be fun to play.

I thought fun was for unintelligent gamers who just want a biased unrealistic story. This is supposed to be ART.

 

[Donald Trump's Neck Vag]

According to Gamstat, which is pretty accurate when it comes to determining the sales of PS4 exclusives, the game has sold about 4 million copies so far. Which makes it the fastest selling Sony game this generation, ahead of Spiderman. The thing that surprised me is that it's actually *gained* more players in Day 2 and Day 3 of its release than Spiderman. I assumed that the negative reaction online would impact the post-launch day sales, but that doesn't seem to have been the case.

Interestingly, the metacritic user score seems to be going up gradually too. It's at 4.2/10 right now.

Either the people outraged over the game are a tiny minority of the actual paying audience, or gamers are just fags who will rant about something online but still go out and buy it like a good consoomer.

The only good thing that's come out of this dumb game are the culture war chimp outs. From the dweebs screeching about how anyone that doesn't like the game is an alt right incel, to the spergs losing their shit over muh ess jay dubbayew agenda. Meanwhile, Druckmann and Sony are laughing all the way to the bank. The best part is that everyone arguing is going to sit down and buy Uncharted 5 or whatever shitty game with great productions values that Naughty Dog craps out next.

 

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[Kurtis Trent]

I don't see it but okay

On the other hand, at least none of them has that uglyass shaved-from-one-side tumblr hairstyle. You know which one. Even Capcom gave that shit to Jill fucking Valentine. So yeah, good job...I guess

 

[Optimus Prime]

Honestly if a games dark gritty take on deep philosophical questions is not making you think and requiring you to put forth the effort to understand them, then that in and of its self is proof that its not a good narrative.

My favorite part of those accessibility options is that the particuarly dumb ones like the auto-solve puzzle feature and the infinite stealth feature are recomended for players who have trouble seeing or are straight up blind.

Because, y'know, literally blind people are so well known for playing video games that still rely heavily on visuals.

 

[Elric of Melnibone]

Joel died so it’s bad storytelling*

Fixed it for you

Joel dying is not what makes it a bad narrative. That take is bad and you should feel bad. Anyone with activity above the brain stem knew Joel was dying in this game. What people are upset about is that Joel is no longer a character with meaning in this one, he is literally a prop for the shitty plot. Thats why they parade his corpse around like a puppet throughout the game. And earlier you brought up that it was not a "plot armor" narrative, which is completely incorrect simply because Abby and her posse left Tommy and Ellie alive. Why? Because Ellie has plot armor. It makes no sense in the context of the world and narrative for them to spare Ellie and Tommy other than to make the plot work. And in the inverse of that, Joel becomes a complete idiot walking into a house surrounded by people he did not know, after everything that he has been through previously, there is no way his character as developed would make a stupid mistake like that. And Tommy is an even bigger example of that, he literally tells these strangers that they have a settlement nearby. Neither of them knows if these people are raiders, cannibals, cultists, or whatever. They just willingly walk into what is obviously a trap, introduce themselves, give away the existence and general location of their settlement, and why? Because it needed to be that way to make the plot move. And this is the first two hours of a 26+ hour plot that goes nowhere and accomplishes nothing, half of which is a mirror copy of the first half and the previous game showing that Drukmann was literally out of ideas by that point. This game should not exist, there was no need to do a sequel, and even if they insisted on a sequel, it should not have been about Ellie or Joel, their story was complete.